Monday, October 19th, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  166 responses

Top 50: Tim Duncan, no. 6

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Russ Bengtson

The best book ever written on the nuts and bolts of writing was originally published in 1919. Called “The Elements of Style,” it focused primarily on usage and composition. It was 43 pages long. Later revised by New Yorker writer E.B. White, who added an introduction and final chapter, Tim Duncanit expanded to 71 pages. But the key piece of advice—one that appeared in the original version and remained unchanged through all the revisions and editions—was a single, short sentence: “Omit needless words.” That’s all. Follow no other directive but that one, and you will become a better writer.

At this point you’re probably asking what a slim, 90-year-old book on writing has to do with Tim Duncan. The answer is everything. Basketball, much like writing, is only as complicated as you make it. The basic rules of both are simple. In writing, it’s ‘tell the story.’ In basketball, it’s ‘score more points than the other team.’ Duncan has understood this since he entered the League, if not since he entered the world.

As a rookie, Duncan averaged 21.1 points and 11.9 rebounds on 55 percent shooting. Last season, he averaged 19.3 points and 10.7 rebounds on 50.4 percent shooting. His career averages are 21.4, 11.7, 50.7 percent. If he’s on any sort of decline, it’s the most gradual of slopes. At 33 years old, Duncan is pretty much the player he’s always been. And if he’s relatively unaffected by age, it’s only because he was similarly unaffected by youth. It’s not like he’s had to figure out how to play when his athleticism started to decline. He never used it even when he had it. Assuming Timmy ever had it in the first place.

In both writing and basketball, it’s easy to get carried away. To mistake complexity and creativity for real accomplishment. All the adjectives and adverbs and flourishes in the world don’t mean a thing if you fail to tell the story. And a killer crossover or an otherworldly vertical doesn’t matter much if you can’t shoot or play defense. Tim Duncan has made it abundantly clear that he wants to tell the story. With four championships and counting, he’s told it very well indeed.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • http://www.alloutblitz.com Cordeazy

    howard ahead of duncan? i know they play different positions, so it’s tough to make comparisons, but…whaaaaaaaaat?

  • http://www.alloutblitz.com Cordeazy

    sorry, was a little late to class.

  • http://AFITCONCEPTS.COM DUNCAN THE LAST GREAT SUPERSTAR!

    TIM DUNCAN

    Rockie of the Year
    2 MVP’s Back to Back
    3 Finals MVP’S
    4 NBA Championships
    Made superstars out of Tony Parker, & Manu Ginolbili.

    Dwight Howard will never win MVP or a NBA Championship in his lifetime.

    Sorry,

    But truth speaks for it self.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba/overdribbling/index276.html chiqo

    tim duncan’s post moves, face up jumper, ability to pass out of a double team, and ability to stay out of foul trouble disagree with him being ranked under howard.

  • tavoris

    Bryan, that’s an accurate assessment, but running fast, jumping high, and changing directions faster than a hoveround seems to be difficult for him. His mid-range J is wet, tho

  • miguel10

    howard ahead of duncan? i know they play different positions, so it’s tough to make comparisons, but…whaaaaaaaaat?

  • http://slamonline.com Nbk

    how many different names is that one person gonna use?

  • black pinoy

    i know this is based on projected outputs this season but id still say duncan will definetly play better than howard .. (unless ofcourse howard improves his 5th grade post game) .. its like saying durang will have a better season than kobe //

  • Tdot

    mr.fundamental is the ish

  • tavoris

    nbk, that’s not him…but he suffers the same affliction.

  • http://slamonline.com 360vue

    nice article, refreshingly brief, and no fuss, which definitely mirrors TD. Gotta comment on the referenced book however, as by and large, elements of style is an awful work on english grammar; the bulk of it was outdated back in 1918 let alone today.

    on the TD-Howard debate, gotta be dwight for me. Many will disagree, and even age aside, i feel Dwight can make a much deeper impact on a game than TD. TD you’re pretty much guaranteedand 20/10 which beautiful, but Dwight has a ceiling way beyond that despite the fact many facets of his game need dramatic improvement. He could realistically manage 25/14/3 blocks next season. Meanwhile, no.1 belongs kobe, which pains me to say considering for years i liked to think/pretend my sixers iverson was ahead of kobe… Lebron james can destroy teams on his own, but he can’t do it every game, Kobe can not only destroy teams on his own when he needs to, but more often than not, he makes everyone around him infinitely better when he needs to

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    la huey Posted: Oct.19 at 2:18 pm
    howard ahead of duncan? i know they play different positions, so it’s tough to make comparisons, but…whaaaaaaaaat?
    Cordeazy Posted: Oct.19 at 3:38 pm
    howard ahead of duncan? i know they play different positions, so it’s tough to make comparisons, but…whaaaaaaaaat?
    miguel10 Posted: Oct.19 at 4:35 pm
    howard ahead of duncan? i know they play different positions, so it’s tough to make comparisons, but…whaaaaaaaaat?

    whaaaaat?

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @Joel’s 9:32 — Dwight WISHES he had Mutumbo’s hook.

  • shifty

    Heaps of people are getting caught on the “can’t believe such and such is in front of such and such” its about their performace for this upcoming season, so what if Howard doesn’t have post moves, is he going to get better numbers then Duncan? Yes so Howard deserves to be in front. If he can improve on his hideous free throws then who knows how many points Howard will average this season.

  • davidR

    yo russ, make sure krolik sees the first paragraph of this article, and pays attention to the last half of it. forreal.

  • davidR

    anyway, dope piece on the robot. loved how you stayed consistent with the “less is more” concept by keeping the article short on words but on point — just like duncan. cause really, what else is there to say about duncan? why re-tell his story when it’s the same every (other) year?

  • TADOne

    I like both Timmy and Dwight, but Howard should be ahead of Duncan on the simple fact that pretty much any night of the week he can give you 20/20 and 5-6 blocks. The way Duncan has post moves and offense for days, Howard has athleticism, defense and rebounding. Howard has a left hand now that he didn’t have at all as a rookie. He also has a decent hook shot and an improving jumper. Regardless, no one can stop Howard from dunking. No one. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how you score the rock, just that you score.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Dwight is better then Duncan for the fact that he can play all 82 games plus the playoffs without a decline in production. Duncan is pretty much a 65 game season player. In the playoffs though, give me duncan or give me death

  • Mo

    I like both Tim and Dwight as well and I think this is the perfect spot for Tim. Tim is still a very good player and will go down as one of if not the best to play the PF position but people like to hold on to reputation too long. Tim won’t lose his reputation but there are players better than him at this point.

  • Yesse

    Ohh come on.Dirk is probably having a better season than Tim.Tim is getting older, but he is probably the best PF ever in Nba history.The top 5 probably goes like this…
    1)Dwyane Wade
    2)LeBron James
    3)Kobe Bryant
    4)Dwight Howard
    5)Chris Paul
    Now thats not a fan list, thats my prediction of the top 5.Personally, Kobe is my favorite player, but he doesnt have to do as much for his team as the others.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    i hope slam does not have dwayne wade infront of Kobe or LeBron. if thats the case then the voters gotta lotta splainin to do

  • Mo

    @kva45 you know full damn well Deron Williams isn’t a Top 5 player. LMAO! He needs to do more that win head to head matchups to be considered top 5 son. I’m pretty sure both Tony Parker and Steve Nash has won head to head matchups against Deron does that mean they’re better players than Deron? Does that mean they’re top 5 players. Stop hatin fella. LMAO!

  • Mo

    Go take a nap and let the grown folks talk. LMAO!

  • Mo

    @Yesse, that’s the top 5 right there. Reminds me of a video I just watched on youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR7e1b_nsy4

  • Mo

    I’m not talking about the particular order but that’s the top 5 in the league right there.

  • Mo

    Not particularly in that order but that’s the top 5.

  • Steve

    For the next ten years give me Dwight.

    For the next ten months give me Tim B Dunkin.

    I think the list compilers forgot their focus on the season ahead as a stand alone thing when decidiing to put Howard over Timmy.

  • Steve

    Lots of statistical arguments why Howard should be above Timmy given above, but in the fourth quarter with the pressure on who do you want with the ball? Timmy with his range of moves, mid range jumper, (relatively) reliable foul shooting, or Dwight who will be put on the line each time and miss more than his fair share?

    Dwight will dominate virtually all centers in the league today, but come finals time if all else was equal and it only came down to Timmy v Dwight for the title I back the Spurs every time. And for anyone saying they play different positions, you know who would be guarding Timmy down the stretch and you know damn well Timmy would be taking Dwight.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    or they considered an entire season rather then 1 game. maybe you should do the same thing steve. this will be the best way to figure it out…..check how many games howard and duncan play each year. then calculate how many more rebounds blocks and points howard would have have if duncan played all 82 games.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    then subtract the 16+ games Duncan is sure to miss. and you have a great reason to have howard ranked ahead of duncan.

  • http://www.yahoo.com christian wells

    finally we hv arrived the TOP 5

  • KH10

    howard is definately going to post better stats than tim, and probably lead the magic to 60 wins and the ECF, if he learns one more post move he could average 25 and 15, so for this season his ranking makes sense, but there is no question that hes an inferior player, and its unlikely he (or anyone else) will reach the heights that TD has.
    duncan, kobe and shaq are the only guys playing now that are proven winners.

  • Steve

    NBK, I am not talking about 1 game really, was just using that to illustrate the point. Howard will have at least one 30-30 game this season I am sure … against the Grizzlies or some other bottom feeder. Timmy won’t have one. Who cares!

    Both teams are going to be in the finals and that is where true value plays out. If I was the Spurs I would rest Tim against crappy teams as well, the old adage about the season being a marathon and not a sprint is true, and the fact that the Spurs might protect their best player from the wear and tear of a long season does not in my view diminish his value or should affect his ranking here.

    Your comment suggests you would prefer a 72-10 record and no title over a 52-30 record and a title. It also suggests yoou woould prefer a regular season MVP over a Finals MVP. I think you would be in the minority in both cases.

  • Steve

    I would include DWade in the proven winners list KH10 … not just for winning the title with Shaq but also for the way he dragged that sorry Heat team into the finals and also what he did his last year in College. I wouldn’t extend it any further than that though.

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    @mo: no offense, but you posted “let the grown folks talk”, which was you second comment in a row ending with “LMFAO”, these “grown folks” you speak of… that doesn’t include you then, does it?
    With that being said: I’m a bit surprised by this ranking. Since the rankings are based on the impact a player will have on the upcoming season, of course Duncan deserves to be in the top 10. no doubt. But 6? Not too sure about that.

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    I wanted to add that the way Russ wrote this up, is something I can really appreciate. Well done Russ.

  • JJG

    howard ahead of duncan? i know they play different positions, so it’s tough to make comparisons, but…whaaaaaaaaat?

  • Shem

    oh woowww i completely forgot.. PAUL PIERCE IS IN THE TOP 5. Honestly no post moves howard will have a better year then duncan no matter how he gets it in he ll average 20 14 and 3 and probably go to atleast the 2nd round or east finals. Duncan wont get 19 and 10 again and probably wont win a title anyways so no arguement with howard but paul pierce… for real?

  • Shem

    @Jukai: I think LeBron is like 1/300 in the clutch. The only clutch things ive seen lebron do is the detroit game 5 a couple yrs back, the buzzer against g state and the shot over hedo. Sounds like theres alot of moments but trust me i watch alot of cavs games theres a lot lebron doesnt do in the clutch

  • Ghost (of duane causwell)

    5 chris paul
    4 dwight howard
    3 dwayne wade
    2 lebron james
    1 kobe bryant

    let’s wrap this up guys

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Are you joking Shem? Didn’t LeBron lead the league in fourth quarter scoring last year? On a team with the most wins in the league? Yeah…
    Also, you’re discrediting the fact that he literally dragged the Cleveland Cavaliers to the NBA Finals by himself, a feat barely any other player has done (outside of Allen Iverson). He also singlehandedly disposed of the Washington Wizards for consecutive years in the playoffs, with plenty of clutch, last-second points put on the board. So don’t tell me LeBron James is not clutch.

  • stxonelove

    I put only kobe in front of DUNCAN,to hell with positions Championships make the difference.Howard will never be as good as Duncan “EVER”.Duncan should be in the top 5 ever to play the game period.

  • whooo!

    expect Duncan’s numbers to be lower, as his minutes will be monitored more. BUT, also expect his PER and per minute numbers to be off the charts compared to before. this is the deepest team he’s ever been on (’05 was very good & balanced though), and with pretty much no liabilities on offense – you can’t double team at all against their starting 5. but the thing with Duncan is, he’s spent so much time w/ Robert Horry that he tries to pace himself in the regular season and steps it up in the playoffs.

  • whooo!

    oh, and the stats Russ noted are nice, but wait till you see the playoff numbers and realize that everything goes up once the post-season hits. sure, you can knock his injuries the past couple years, but before this, he had been an absolute trooper (winning the chip in ’05 on TWO bad ankles). gimme a guy who’ll always come through in the playoffs, regardless of pain, any day of the week, over a guy who’s healthy but chokes in the playoffs.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Bryan: I dunno, I think Mutombo isn’t as bad an offensive player as we give him credit sometimes. With the exception of his last few years as a role player, he was always a double-double guy. It’s always been fun to laugh at the big dude’s seeming clumsiness, but offensively Deke was no friggin Greg Ostertag. Dwight even has arguably the same (or less, Tealish) offensive post moves that Deke had, but he’s so much stronger and athletic that he gets a load more dunks and garbage baskets.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @tavoris: Right. It seems to work a lot better for Patrick than it does for Dwight though…

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @whoo: I think the ’03 Spurs were crazy deep. They had Steve Smith, Manu, TP, Jax, Kerr, Kevin Willis and a bunch of other guys. And Robinson was still playing. This 09-10 squad is a bit more top heavy, I think.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Now wait a minute, who claims PP is in the top 5? Is this a joke?

  • http://dfkjslf.com Jukai

    Joel: He averaged like… 14 points on sub 50% shooting while averaging close to 40 minutes… and he’s 7’2! He’s a REALLY bad offensive center.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Pierce has already been listed.

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