Friday, September 5th, 2008 at 8:00 am  |  193 responses

SLAMonline Top 50: Tayshaun Prince, no. 45

The definitive ranking of the best players in the NBA today…

by Jake Appleman

I was going to write a short story about Tayshaun Prince being captured and taken into a cave to be initiated by the Skin and Bones society–Mick Jagger, Calista Flockhart, Snoop Dogg, the cast of America’s Next Top Model, the Olsen twins, etc. He was going to be praised for his all around selflessness (if shots were food…), and the ceremony was going to conclude with some mighty words from the next President of the United States, Barack Obama, a SK&B member himself. Then, somewhere between writing my first paragraph and Russ mentioning “Unnamed Fetus Palin”, I realized that a) I might not have the time to give the piece the creative juice it deserved and b) it would be ironically thin on actual basketball discussion.

So here goes something that’s been bothering me: I have absolutely no idea which member of the Detroit Pistons is their most valuable player. I suppose it doesn’t matter, and that’s kind of the point, but I’m miffed that I can’t make a decision, or even feel compelled to lean one way. (I voted Chauncey highest on my top 50 list but definitely feel some regret about that. In fact, all four Pistons that I put on my list were within in 10 or so spots of one another.)

Conventional wisdom and legend tells us it’s Chauncey, he of the sneaker contract and the big shots. However, it’s funny to think about his rep and realize that his nickname has served to protect him somewhat unjustly from criticism deserved for poor recent postseason play. Also worth noting: he’s been the floor general on a team that hasn’t responded to its coach annually when it mattered most. That warrants true examination.

The underdog in us says it’s Rip, the guy who logs the miles going around the screens that tire out the opposing defense, which helps D-troit clamp down and do their thing on the other end. The underdog says don’t underestimate the guy that takes good shots and practices the lost art that keeps the other team honest. But Rip isn’t a bulldog on the other end of the floor quite like Detroit’s other mainstays. And if defense is the hallmark by which half of a player is judged, then you have the counter argument right there.

The sensationalist in us might be blinded by a deep love for Sheed, so much so that his incredible talents cloud our viewpoints. But he’s too volatile and simply doesn’t perform well enough consistently.

That leaves us with Prince, the dude that looks like he was born to a pterodactyl octopus and a malnourished refugee. Since the Pistons aren’t truly built for the playoffs anymore–prove us wrong and we won’t judge you so–it’s imperative to look at which guys matter most during the course of the regular season that defines their success. To me, those two are Hamilton and Prince. Prince’s disruptive length and willingness to do the proverbial little things provide a microcosm of what the Pistons are. His two-way productivity and on-court selflessness blend the rest of Detroit’s bigger egos rather seamlessly and help the day to day of their easy 82 game ride.

Yet he still flies under the radar (even here, on this list, he isn’t getting his proper due). Just remember next time he unfurls that ugly 3-ball from the corner thanks to some transition hustle–after spending 23 seconds gobbling up the other team’s best player–that he deserves more of your respect. Just because he could temporarily house a honeydew while sucking in his man-cave doesn’t mean he isn’t a complete player.

Prince might have been invited to Beijing because Team USA’s frontcourt was thin, but as always is the case with the guy that logs the most minutes on a perennial Eastern conference contender, the whole picture is more important than the frame.

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  • ciolkstar

    Sheep in the top 10?! Maybe if this list was for the 50 most entertaining NBA players.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    “Tayshaun was running around admitting he couldn’t guard LeBron on national TV.” namik considering that never happened, i guess it means you are wrong, sort of like Mitt Rommeny telling Al Gore to lose the private jet (al doesnt even own one!!!)

  • ciolkstar

    Sheed* in the top 10?! Maybe if this list was for the 50 most entertaining NBA players.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    No, it was not. That’s why I thought I had to correct you.

  • a_whiteman

    no way in hell is battier even close to tayshaun…and i dont understand how so many people can sleep on this guys ability he is a proven winner, stole a starting spot in his rookie season by ripping the playoffs, gives you 10000000% every game, guards the other teams best player, never tries to do to much on offence, know his role shuts his mouth and plays.

  • a_whiteman

    and is EXTREMELY clutch

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    I was just being sarcastic which I think you knew I was doing, ciolk. I’m just making sure you knew I playing around.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    DP!

  • B. Long

    That’s what the girls in Mario and Darrell’s hotel room said.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    what a great 1liner!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    Tayshaun is not better than Josh Smith.

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    lmao @ B Long

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    BET! I bet they will never take a picture of Arthur on the clouds again. The NBA is so family oriented when they take those pics for the new rookies. Looks like the pictures I took when I was in f*cking 3rd grade. With ponies and sh*t in the background.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    beat it like a cop, rodney king baby said i beat it like a cop.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    lol. our school pics are getting taken next week and its gonna be in front of a HUGE american flag

  • B. Long

    I need to school you two young bucks real quick and make sure your listening to L.A.X. right now and L.A.X only! House of Pain, L.A.X. files, and State of Emergency are the tracks that need to be on repeat. Class dismissed.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i never listen to just one artist. Even if i did it sure as fu(k wont and never will be LAX. LL and Game’s newest albums are all i am bumping until some new hot sh!t drops.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Man, Prince is one of the most underrated players EVER. He gets almost no credit whatsoever. He deserves to be an all-star every single year, regardless of his low-flash style of play. The dude gets the job done of both ends of the floor, that’s something you can’t ask of most than half of the players in the game today. I would definitely put him higher on this list, but I’m glad SLAM put him up anyways. And make no mistake, the other three members of the Pistons SHOULD be on the top 50 list. They are all good, crunchtime players. And someone above me was comparing Battier to Prince: Both are awesome, solid contributors on both ends of the floor.

  • Mathew

    These defensive stoppers are hard to rank in a top 50 type thing. Tayshaun locks down but when you look at his overall numbers they are not that impressive. Although i would take him over battier i don’t think he warrants top 50. From the Pistons i would say only chauncey and Rip make the top 50. Sheeds numbers have fallen over these last three years and he is just a glorified three point shooter that plays some good team defense.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i actually agree with Teddy the Bear for once! but i dont think Sheed belongs on the list for PLAYING because he never uses more than 60-80% of his balling powers unless they are in the finals. The problem is, he needs to use 100% consistantly to assure Detriot gets their

  • davidR

    i’m late, but this was a good read jake. loved the hints of thin throughout the piece

  • scott

    Tayshaun Prince doesn’t belong in the top 50. Of the players ranked so far:
    1. Josh Smith
    2. Marcus Camby
    3. Kevin Martin
    4. Monta Ellis
    5. Kevin Durant
    6. Tayshaun Prince

  • andrej

    should have been maybe 40 or 39th

  • tealish

    My 6 would be,
    1. Smith
    2. Ellis
    3. Martin; Prince
    5. Durant
    6. Camby

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Whatever man. Teddy every single point you mentioned is entirely applicable to Battier as well. Prince is just not a top 50 player in the league imo. He might be actually but hes not more important to team success than the other 5 guys behind him on this list. And they are better players than him as well.

  • KayDoub

    I love this guy. He is unreplaceable in the Pistons, you have Stuckey to fill in for the guards, but where can you find a Prince-type player? I love Battier too, but he’s not as long…either way go Prince!

  • hugh

    Readers of this site, which i do enjoy and frequent, already expect amatuer basketball analysis. You need not bolden the word amatuer with child like and laughable political endeavors. Imagine Ben Wallace teaching you how to shoot threes when he can hardly dunk.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Here you go:
    Ryne Nelson says:
    @TAD: This was the criteria, more or less…
    * 50 best players in the NBA today, right now
    * Guys who provide the most value to their teams
    * Completely, utterly your opinion
    @Jukai: You can look forward to an All-Time list later this season.
    Imo: Battier is more valuable to the rockets ( or was last year, Artest may change things) success than Battier’s. And he’s a better player. Im done on this.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    *than Prince’s sorry.

  • Bruno – Bra

    tayshaun is ok, but i mean JUST ok
    he still have to prove a lot of things and, i don’t know, but i think he “shys” away from the game when it matters.
    i still want to see him using all that wingspan on the offence when rip and sheed are being shut down…
    i would have camby, monta and josh better ranked than him… camby maybe, but the other 2, definitly.
    liked the piece on josh tough. very well and “enjoyable” written

  • Bruno

    tayshaun is ok, but i mean JUST ok
    he still have to prove a lot of things and, i don’t know, but i think he “shys” away from the game when it matters.
    i still want to see him using all that wingspan on the offence when rip and sheed are being shut down…
    i would have camby, monta and josh better ranked than him… camby maybe, but the other 2, definitly.
    liked the piece on josh tough. very well and “enjoyable” written
    =sorry the duplicate entry=

  • mitch

    yes I am loving this tp22 is the best defender in the l right now.

  • tealish

    Mitch: too far.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Did one of Slam’s writers ever hang out with Ron Artest and his “crew”? They’re talking about it on the radio, I can’t remember if it was SLAM, but the radio guy thought it was.

  • http://antwonomous.blogspot.com Antwonomous

    Prince is an excellent player. Offensively, he could do for a team what Hedo did for the Magic last year – only he’s twice as good a defender. There’s a good chance he’s really better than people like Josh Howard and Caron Butler and we just don’t know it.

  • Mathew

    This list so far has people way to low and people that prolly shouldn’t be crackin the top 50. i have a feeling we are going to see a lot of players that used to be great higher because of what they used to do. Durant by the end of this season could be a top 20 player and was way to low. Kevin Martin gets no pub since he is in Sac and averaging nearly 24 a game gets him 45-50. It also gets a guy who average 13 a game ahead of him. I have Monta at 45 and Josh Smith at 44 so they seem about right. I just hope guys like Rudy Gay and Danny Granger get their just do by being in the top 35.

  • Lucas

    The real top 50 so far…
    50. Mike Dunleavy
    49. Michael Redd
    48. Lamar Odom
    47. Brandon Roy
    46. Kevin Durant
    45. Ron Artest

  • David Brrainard

    I think you are right about the Pistons. They are a team that excels at being a team. But the one you missed was Dice. He completes them. He makes all others the team, as seen in his willingness to come of the bench and produce a starters number. Dice is number 50.5.

  • CL SMOOTH

    He’s better than Josh Howard.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mack_iz_soo_fn_flyy MackSoFLy

    Tayshaun Got a RING, major contributions on a championship team set him apart from battier, j ho, and others like that, Ak-47, and other clones that came after him, add in that gold medal and yall borderline hatin

  • JB Pitts

    after shawn marion, tay is the most underrated in the f*cking league. i dont see kobe or lebron stepping up to guard the other teams best player EVERY SINGLE GAME. hes top 40 if you ask me

  • JB Pitts

    To lucas and matt, any body in indy shouldnt even be in the top 65 or so

  • j smoov

    Tay was averaging 19, 8, and 3 after detroits first like 10 games

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