• October 14, 2009 8:00 am  |  163 Comments

    Top 50: Brandon Roy, no. 10

    The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

    By Jake Appleman/@JakeAppleman

    “You ever heard of the multiverse theory, Brian?…The theory states that there are an infinite number of universes co-existing with ours on parallel dimensional planes…Now, in each of these alternate universes the reality is different from our own. Sometimes only slightly, sometimes quite raBrandon Roydically; the point is, every possible eventuality exists.” - Stewie Griffin. (While Family Guy has fallen off precipitously over the past few seasons, this season’s first episode, which dealt with the theory stated above, did not disappoint.)

    The midwife shrieked with glee. Never before had her job been so easy. The kid just popped out, smooth, barely a push from his mom needed. It was as if he said, “it’s my time, bring to me the light–and I’m going to stay there forever.” Of course, for anyone that’s seen Roy Brandon play ball, that his birth mimics his game isn’t surprising.  What’s truly ridiculous is that the immediate moments afterwards captured the essence of his personality. The infant pointed his little fingers and blatantly mocked the obstetrician’s mangled stethoscope. Arrogant trash talk at five minutes old? Roy Brandon wouldn’t have it any other way.

    Flash forward to the present and it’s a big year for Brandon. His tumultuous off-season began when a Spanish rapper that signed to his fledgling label, Roy-alty Records, suckered T-Wolves rookie Ricky Rubio into criticizing his new general manager, Bill Simmons. New York Post reporter Peter “the garter snake” Vescey labeled it “The Spanish Inquisition.”  Then, Brandon added insult to his injury-free career when he rejected a four year contract extension for max money, antagonizing the diehard Portland fans that are growing weary of his antics.

    For those not familiar, a quick recap:

    –Ever since draft night 2006, Brandon, feeling snubbed, has referred to Andrea Bargnani, Adam Morrison, Tyrus Thomas and Shelden Williams–all selected before him–as “Who,” “What,” “Why,” and “You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.”

    –On his Twitter feed, Brandon noted that while he’d never taken a business course in college, he’d come up with a formula to succeed at endorsement promotion. “I’ve deduced that Stephon Marbury + Good At Basketball = Mad Money, like the bald dude on MSNBC that looks like a rabid squirrel,” he wrote.

    –At the suggestion of a gawky, magazine writer Roy decided to ask all reporters to pronounce his name “Wah,” like the hockey goalie, in an effort to up his Q rating in tiny Portland. Efforts to remake the “wahhhhh-saaaaaaaa” Budweiser commercials were blocked by David Stern, because “pro athletes selling beer to kids is wrong; especially light beer.”

    –All throughout President Barack Obama’s campaign, Roy would respond to any question from The Oregonian’s John Canzano with a quick, “Yes We Can-zano!” before ignoring the topic at hand and waiting for another question.

    –It’s been rumored that Brandon stormed out of a Nike meeting, threatening to legally change his name to Roy Brand-One, a possible moniker for his potential venture into the Chinese sneaker market. Sources close to the Blazers believe he’s intent on becoming the NBA’s OchoCinco, if the NBA’s OchoCinco had a tattoo in Chinese letters that meant, “Arrogance Is Controlled Awesomeness.”

    –Brandon skipped a home game against the Bobcats, claiming on his blog that he had a bad case of “plantar fascism.” That night, at an awards show, Brandon was reportedly seen cavorting alongside a nominated rapper.  And yes, Drake’s “Coffee Cake” won the Grammy over Jay-Z’s “AOL 3.0 Blueprint”, Eminem’s “If You Say Pause One More Time, I’m Going to Kill You” and Kanye’s “I’ma Let You Ejaculate.”


    When you add it all up, it’s only reasonable to believe that this talented band of bad apples–which includes the gun-toting Nicolas Batum and that guy with the “Steve to the motherfucking Blake” tattoo across his chest–might implode under such heavy expectations. One wouldn’t blame pessimistic fans for pining for the days of the Good Samaritan Blazers, typified by Rasheed Wallace delicately handing out towels to teammates, Ruben Patterson fighting for the legal rights of underpaid, immigrant nannies and the Bonzi Scheme, a triangular, step by step guide of how to properly treat members of the credentialed media.

    Alas, it’s a different era in Rip City.

    All that noted, isn’t it pretty amazing that Roy Brandon–with his buttery jumper, impressive midrange game, fearless forays to the tin, late-game heroics and teammate-improving intangibles–is still a top ten player in the league?

    (For actual analysis on Brandon Roy and this universe’s Portland Trail Blazers, feel free to check out The Oregonian, TrueHoop and BlazersEdge, among others I’m surely forgetting.)

    Notes
    • Rankings are based solely on projected ‘09-10 performance.
    • Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
    • Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.



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    • Solon Posted: Oct.14 at 8:05 am
      haha, all you portland homers are gonna be pisssseed. I guess scoring a lot on a shitty team is better then leading a good team in everything.
      durant>>>roy.

    • Ken Posted: Oct.14 at 8:09 am
      I actually like him in the top 10.

    • NUPE Posted: Oct.14 at 8:11 am
      I agree he’s got serious game and he will have a monster season, but I have my doubts if he deserves a top 10 spot. Not far off, but I wouldn’t put him in the top 10 yet. I guess slam really expects a LOT from KD this year.

    • Bryan Posted: Oct.14 at 8:12 am
      Omg kevin durant better than this guy lolz this list sux.

    • Bryan Posted: Oct.14 at 8:14 am
      Hopefully that covers it. Good spot but I can’t see him getting much better.

    • Solon Posted: Oct.14 at 8:15 am
      Roy is pretty sick, i gotta give it to him. HOWEVER, I will always be pissed off for the way he bribed all the coaches into voting him into the All Star Game two years ago. He sent “iRoy”s (iPod with his face on it) to every member of every front office in the NBA with some lame intro touting how he should be voted in by the coaches. He was a rising star, who assuredly would be going to more All Star Games in the future.No matter, as the Coaches voted for him a year too early over the more deserving Baron Davis-who had better stats, a better team, a huge cult following (this was the year after they slayed the Mighty Mavs, and basically and the weight of a once proud franchise who had missed the playoffs 14 years in a row (before ‘We Believe’), and not had an all star rep in the same span. A big blow to Warriors Nation, and a big reason why I will never fully appreciate Mr. Roy’s game.

    • Ken Posted: Oct.14 at 8:16 am
      But this write-up wasn’t top 10. I feel like Roy deserved better than this… it was like a bunch of throw-away jokes that said nothing about Brandon’s game, or why he’s ranked in the top 10 of this list.

    • Solon Posted: Oct.14 at 8:16 am
      oh, and Durant>>>Roy. I agree

    • Pavlek Posted: Oct.14 at 8:19 am
      brilliant

    • K.a. Posted: Oct.14 at 8:19 am
      Bizarre. Let see Greek dude derail this one.

    • LeoneL Posted: Oct.14 at 8:31 am
      Roy is still better than Durant. But Durant will have better stats this season because who would really share the load of carrying the Thunder?

    • Hisham Posted: Oct.14 at 8:34 am
      Haha Jake Appleman never disappoints. Another crazy piece. Plantar fascism…

    • Juice20 Posted: Oct.14 at 8:37 am
      good spot for boy wonder

    • Hisham Posted: Oct.14 at 8:46 am
      didn’t know about Roy campaigning for an All-Star selection. Makes me wonder how common and/or accepted that behaviour is among the players.

    • T Money Posted: Oct.14 at 8:58 am
      Its damn near impossible to hate this dude.

    • ThrowSticks Posted: Oct.14 at 9:13 am
      this is the Combo Guard done right. I’m kind of surprised he’s this low though. I thought he had the 7/8 slot for sure.

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.14 at 9:14 am
      1) OVERRATED!!!!OVERRATED!!!! (but still a really good player)
      2)DURANT >> ROY
      3)TOP-10 SG’s in the world coming later…
      4)Hisham-hisham-hisham-HISHAM(E)!!!!!!!!!

    • Daniel Dragicevich Posted: Oct.14 at 9:14 am
      roy is so good, not much people know this
      he is going to own this season

    • Fred Posted: Oct.14 at 9:14 am
      I’m agree with Bryan, this list sux a little. Rose ahead of Billup!!!! and now Durant ahead of Roy!

    • sab Posted: Oct.14 at 9:16 am
      i love Jake’s writing but, like Ken, would’ve liked something more, um, “respectful”(?) for Brandon. but i appreciate you gotta keep it fresh, it still raised a smile…
      can’t believe people doubt him in the top 10. i’m personally surprised he dropped this low.

    • NeoChe Posted: Oct.14 at 9:17 am
      Where’s Yao Ming’s situation???

    • naturallyawesome Posted: Oct.14 at 9:18 am
      The iRoys were not sent out by by Brandon Roy, rather by the trailblazers organization. Brandon is too humble by far to attempt something like that. Also, do you seriously think an ipod worth a couple hundred bucks is enough to “bribe” coaches who make million a year?

    • tavoris Posted: Oct.14 at 9:19 am
      Hisham…all the guys that don’t get voted in do it…

    • tavoris Posted: Oct.14 at 9:22 am
      Solon…Davis didn’t deserve that All-Star spot at the fourth best PG in the West. Roy has been the 2nd best SG in the West since his 2nd year. The only reason Roy got attention for his campaign is because it was different…not because other players (and their team owners) don’t do more.

    • kobesbestfriend Posted: Oct.14 at 9:23 am
      not a top 10 player!has no defense at all…SLAM sux!!!!

    • Bryan Posted: Oct.14 at 9:24 am
      I do think deron williams is better than this guy and I’m not even a deron fan.

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.14 at 9:26 am
      This was awesome. I almost spit my coffee on my computer twice while reading it.

    • SLAM ONLINE | » Hot Topics? Posted: Oct.14 at 9:34 am
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    • Vittorio De Zen Posted: Oct.14 at 9:46 am
      Bonzi scheme! Brilliant.

    • Reflex Posted: Oct.14 at 9:58 am
      Anyone else sick of Panagiotis? when the f*k did you become an authority on Basketball, everyone is entitled to express an opinion but it’s really sickening when you try and force it down in the holier than thou manner which you so often. For the record, Euroleague is garbage, no one who plays there can be placed in the top 100 bball players in the world contrary to your force fed opinions. I’m from Europe myself (UK to be exact) so I watch a fair bit on Eurosport when I can. Everyone for the most part is average. Stop ruining these messagebords wih your opinions or at least try to be less hard headed with it. That aside, BROY is more than worth of his place in the top 10, 25-5-5, clutch, and still as years in him. As someone on here once said, he’s the Tim Duncan of guards which is as good a description of his game as you’ll get.

    • Hisham Posted: Oct.14 at 9:58 am
      papalamepiemelos

    • fireman10101 Posted: Oct.14 at 10:04 am
      To all of yall sayin this list sux, remember this is based on how slam thinks the upcomin season is gonna go but I believe roy should be 7 at least

    • Simon S.Y Lawy Posted: Oct.14 at 10:07 am
      what i do know is BRoy and Dwill both > Durant…

    • Hisham Posted: Oct.14 at 10:12 am
      there’s either a lot of newbies on this site today, or nobody understands sarcasm.

    • fireman10101 Posted: Oct.14 at 10:13 am
      But slam could’ve written an article to suit his talent intead of makin fun of the blazers past

    • JDH21 Posted: Oct.14 at 10:24 am
      A lot of funny lines in this article, but not a whole lot of substance. If you are going to put the guy in the top ten give us some facts and information to back it up. That being said I myself wish everyday the Bulls had this guy instead of Tyrus. Sheldon Williams and Adam Morrison over this guy? It’s not hard to see why the Bobcats never going anywhere. I will not go as far for the Atlanta Hawks, but Sheldon Williams over BRoy. really who were you kidding?

    • niQ Posted: Oct.14 at 10:29 am
      YES BRANDON ROY. I became a big fan of Roy after having him on my Fantasy Basketball team last year. LOL

    • matt the jazz fan Posted: Oct.14 at 10:30 am
      if the way we rank players is would you pick x over y for the upcoming season if you had your druthers, right now, then i’d probably rather have the deron than roy. but it’s close and i may be biased… durant however probably beats them both out.
      probably, though we’ll see when he’s played some meaningful games, which d will and roy both have… ps cute write-up

    • Scott Posted: Oct.14 at 10:44 am
      Brandon Roy is most deserving of his status in the top ten. However, his fantasy status should take a bit of a hit with Miller on the team to take away some dimes.

    • 360vue Posted: Oct.14 at 10:53 am
      I know these rankings are about as ambiguous as some abtruse and obscure cryptic language that no-one can translate. However, BRoy in the top 10?!?! I wish I could get font size 50 for the next three letters, to help really emphasise my feelings, but caps lock will do; LOL!

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.14 at 10:55 am
      Roy gave Artest forty points… Enough said. At this point I would say he’s better than Kevin Durant; if not in scoring than definitely in all-around play.

    • niQ Posted: Oct.14 at 10:57 am
      The write-up was wack.

    • 360vue Posted: Oct.14 at 10:57 am
      not to knock roy, cos anyone who plays ball knows he got game, but really, just these whole rankings have been so whack and so retarded at times I wonder whether there sole purpose is to create debate on these boards, instead of giving us that “definitive” ranking that is there supposed purpose

    • cramzy Posted: Oct.14 at 11:04 am
      so i guess Kevin Durant is the new Derrick Rose huh? Props to Broy. I was a little shocked at him being top 10 but not so much that I wanna argue about it. He’s probably third best SG. I respect it

    • The D Train Posted: Oct.14 at 11:10 am
      if Artest compiled this list, Roy would be #1

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.14 at 11:20 am
      @Reflex….:i was going to answer you but you gave the answer by yourself ,although you put it in a parenthesis (something like the hidden answer!!). The same is that since you (plural) cannot figure the difference between bball and cricket , we were forced to have you in 2012 cause organize the event. Of course this will be the first and last time we see you again….(i’m about to cry now…). By the way: the guy who first called Roy “Duncan of guards” was also gr..k (redrum) !!! (Go drink your milk now…)

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.14 at 11:21 am
      same=shame

    • Thype Posted: Oct.14 at 11:36 am
      Write-up is funny enough but it doesn’t do the guy justice. Lazy writing, good rank. I think it’s tough to put Durant above any of these guys without a winning season - but hey, whatever blows your hair back I guess.

    • burnt_chicken@hotmail.com Posted: Oct.14 at 11:37 am
      weird. funny, though…hey–when writing articles like this, do youse journalisty types employ any kind of informed consent?

    • ramadan Posted: Oct.14 at 11:39 am
      ok wtf roy is by far at least #4 or 5

    • Thype Posted: Oct.14 at 11:43 am
      @ Panagiotis - Dude, you need to chill, for real. You get so worked up I highly doubt anyone even understands half of what you’re saying. Calm, man, you’re flipping out on a basketball message board regarding player rankings, which are highly subjective to begin with, during the preseason.

    • Reflex Posted: Oct.14 at 11:59 am
      Hold on, are you knocking me for being from the UK?? That’s a terrible retort.
      And for the most part I didn’t understand the rest of your comment which is understandable as English isn’t presumably your 1st language so fair dis. Here’s the thing, I don’t know you nor have aything against you, but you need to chill with with your bias and how overly subjective you are with your comments. Just think, if you were more diplomatic with your comments, Ben/Justin et al may even offer you a writing gig for the site but as things stand there’d be no point, because all we’d get is, -gianis ginapkols is the best PG since Stockton etc etc - just chill ffs!

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 12:04 pm
      Appleman is the man.

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.14 at 12:04 pm
      @Thype….:i don’t read all comments, why you do so…especially those of people that you have observed that are “flipping out”(don’t know what that means…)? This is quite strange….

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 12:07 pm
      BRoy is pretty good as well.

    • vmcb Posted: Oct.14 at 12:16 pm
      Family Guy references killed this for me. Brandon Roy’s game is more like Flight of the Conchords. Obviously talented, but more subtle than the beat-you-over-the-head-with-throw-away-lines Family Guy.

    • Allenp Posted: Oct.14 at 12:17 pm
      Should you build your team around Brandon Roy?

    • cb 34 Posted: Oct.14 at 12:30 pm
      Durant truly is overrated. Deron and roy are way better players. All durant can do is score. Hell, willie burton and dana barros scored 50 before. Durant is a good rebounder by default because he’s tall. He doesn’t even like mixing it up. They are hyping this guy way too much when he’s gonna end up like a mcgrady. Will never win. Guaranteed.

    • Joey E. Posted: Oct.14 at 12:37 pm
      I love Durant.I think Roy is overrated, but right now I do believe that Deron and Roy should be above KD

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 12:42 pm
      I would build my team around Brandon Roy, no question. BRoy is like Joe Johnson in that he is overrated and underrated all in the same breath. Roy will be the face of the Blazers for the next 5-10 years.

    • Anton Posted: Oct.14 at 12:42 pm
      9. Nissan GT-R
      8. Eva Angelina
      7. Ricky Rubio
      6. The corpse of Ben Wallace
      5. Derrick Rose
      4. Kobe
      3. Wade
      2. LeBron
      1. Allen Iverson

    • Anton Posted: Oct.14 at 12:43 pm
      My comments are getting eaten like Sean May without a contract.

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 12:45 pm
      A great scorer, which Durant is, can do wonders for a franchise. I mean, AI took the Sixers to a Finals appearance. Jordan was a great scorer before he developed an all-around game. Durant is only 22 and still filling out his frame. I’m thinking the kid will be a problem by the time he is 25.

    • cb 34 Posted: Oct.14 at 12:45 pm
      Being truthful, there’s nothing on the court brandon can’t do. The guy is complete. No weaknesses and has the killer instinct which a lot of stars don’t have. Good defender when he bodies you up but commits unnecessary fouls. He will start getting the extra help from the refs if not already. Didn’t think he was actually gonna be this good.

    • Allenp Posted: Oct.14 at 12:50 pm
      TAD
      I wouldn’t build my team around Brandon. What I mean is that I don’t think the Blazers should structure their entire offense and roster to maximize Brandon Roy’s ability. I don’t think he’s that type of player, plus, he’s a two guard.
      But, the Blazers seem intent on surrounding Roy with outstanding talent, now they just need to get him to understand that having that talent means he’s going to have to take fewer shots and touch the ball less. If he buys into that, a big if, when the Blazers will be special. Cause they have some of the best talent in the league, if not the best top to bottom.

    • 360vue Posted: Oct.14 at 12:50 pm
      Woahh cb34, i know for afact Durant is overrated at this current moment in time by the SLAM staff, but in general, that kid is not beING overrated. At the risk of scoff and scorn, I do know KD is going to be one of THE greats, not just of his generation. But the simple fact is, he isnt even close to such a status at this moment in time.
      Oh and that Greek dude needs to STFU, just too much hating going on. seriously, what is the point? every post you comment on you have something negative to say, you’re relatively new to the boards, and already your opinions are stale and uninteresting

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.14 at 12:53 pm
      the write up could be funny like it was and talk a litle about “the natural”´s game…EXACLY THE TIM DUNCAN OF GUARDS, not allways flashy but ELITE anyway you want to see it or put it!! this kid is the motherf#ckin TRUTH!!(stealing the great shaq quote on Paul Pierce)…more than fair top 10, just too low and we´ll know it..you can make a case for Timmy D and Melo ahead of him but DURANT!?!??! ARE YOU EVEN SERIOUS?!?!IS THIS 4REAL?!He will have better stats than the most but its not all about that!or else Kobe would not be nº1 or 2!!! and KG wouldnt even be top30..this stat lovers are anoying!!!BRANDON ROY IS WAY BETTER THAN DURANT!! who does not get this knows litle about basket…when Durant is leading is young team to 54wins instead of 23 we can discuss this again!

    • sab Posted: Oct.14 at 12:56 pm
      i’m amazed by comments like 360vue’s and all the ones that are trying to make the rankings more complicated than they are.
      the rankings are simple - 1 to 50, name the best NBA players. it’s so easy!
      the point Thype made about tiers yesterday was so true. everyone’s 1-2-3 was LeBron-Kobe-Wade, or something similar… with CP3 and Dwight as 4 and 5.
      the rest of the top 10 is more debatable. Roy was consistently around #7 or #8 in the NBA.com Race2MVP column last year, so to say he’s not a top 10 player is, frankly, ridiculous…

    • feelinit Posted: Oct.14 at 12:59 pm
      Andrea Bargnani will be a future franchise player..but keep hatin slam

    • Juan De Fenz Posted: Oct.14 at 1:01 pm
      Roy overrated? F that, who else does he got on his team, and he led them to the second best record in the west. That’s it. I mean he plays with a bunch of guys who haven’t and won’t be ish, and they’re killing the west. No way is he overrated, he’s at least top 6 just on results.

    • TYREKE EVANS Posted: Oct.14 at 1:02 pm
      im gonna lead my team to 23 wins to be considered top 9 like KD!!wwhhooaaa…GREAT RANKING ANTON!!!!!

    • sab Posted: Oct.14 at 1:02 pm
      and completely co-sign Reflex, the Greek guy needs to be less agressive with his opinions. have you noticed how you’re in the minority often? i know “the public” don’t know anything, but if you find yourself in the minority that often, it might actually be cos you’re stupid, y’know….

    • cb 34 Posted: Oct.14 at 1:02 pm
      @ 360vue: Look, durant will always be great cause he’s gonna put up 28 aa night for his career. He might be a great one for this generation but putting him in the class of the barkleys and malones is a bit overrating the guy. I used chuck and karl as examples cause they never got a chip which i’m pretty sure durant will not get either. He’s got t-mac and grant hill written all over him. And i know there’s no evidence to this but i just don’t think he’s tough and injuries will kill his career. I’m not hating at all cause the guy can put buckets. That’s the thing though,just buckets. Think dominique and tom chambers. One dimensional. Plus, jeff green isn’t getting any shine cause durant steals it which pisses me off.

    • KOBE BRYANT Posted: Oct.14 at 1:05 pm
      THIS MEANS THAT THIS LUNATICS WILL PUT DURANT AHEAD OF ME?! CAUSE HE GOT BETTER STATS BUT I THINK IM BETTER..LMFAO!!!

    • Antwonomous Posted: Oct.14 at 1:07 pm
      Oh my gosh, Durant’s gonna be like top-6 or something.

    • cb 34 Posted: Oct.14 at 1:09 pm
      @ feelinit: I’m with you on bargnani. That guy can ball and way underrated. I like his game more than i like dirk’s actually. Not saying he’s better cause that’s stupid but bargs can do anything dirk does and just as well except for the mid-range game. Give him dirk’s minutes and freedom and his numbers will rise dramatically. Difference is, bargs attacks the rim which dirk barely does. Bargnani will prove a lot of doubters wrong one day.

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 1:10 pm
      Allenp,
      I don’t see BRoy as a selfish player and I see him willing to make sacrifices for the betterment of the team. At this point, Roy is nowhere near a ballhog or someone who goes for his outside of a team structure. Brandon is quiet but he is the team leader. He already has outside jumper, a mid-range game, can finish with either hand effectively, can run the offense, can work off picks, and can take his defender off the dribble. If you want an achilles heal, it would be his defense, which he is working on per a request from his coach. So yes, I would build a team around Roy.

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.14 at 1:10 pm
      ROY wwwaaayyy BETTER THAN the overated DURANT…ONLY THING KD IS BETTER MIGHT BE THE 3BALL…its almost as bad as PUTTING DURANT AHEAD OF KOBE CAUSE HE PUTS MORE NUMBERS..GET REAL

    • sab Posted: Oct.14 at 1:25 pm
      Afonso write in CAPITALS then people will RESPECT you MORE!

    • Bryan Posted: Oct.14 at 1:29 pm
      I wouldn’t build my team around brandon roy either , I like him and think he could complement a superstar wonderfully but that’s it.

    • Allenp Posted: Oct.14 at 1:36 pm
      Bryan
      That’s really how I see him. A perfect, PERFECT complete to an absolute stud, or the best player on a well-rounded squad. I think Portland is trying to build a well-rounded squad, but I wonder if that can happen given how much Roy dominates the ball. In all the games I watched, he really dominates the rock, and it seemed harder for other players to get their proper touches and their rhythm.

    • Juice20 Posted: Oct.14 at 1:50 pm
      Durant do be snappin lol

    • CHRISTIAN WELLS Posted: Oct.14 at 1:53 pm
      U GUYS R HILARIOUS,the write was funny and family guy has fell off somewhat,the back and forth between pana,reflex and thype was awesome(NO wait not awesome that word is isn’t dude usuable any more according 2 Esquire magazine)

    • Allenp Posted: Oct.14 at 1:58 pm
      *complement

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 1:58 pm
      I’m sorry, but I must be watching a completely different player. Roy does not dominate the basketball anymore than any other main focal point of a team. If Roy handles the ball a majority of the time, it is by design of the coach, not because he is a selfish player. McMillan likes to sometimes pull the PG and put the ball in the hands of his best player, which is Roy. Brandon does a great job of initiating the offense and also getting his when needed. If anything, Roy doesn’t maybe handle the ball enough.

    • la huey Posted: Oct.14 at 2:20 pm
      Roy > Durant. Deron > Durant. Durant has more raw talent and if he keeps his head on straight and avoids injury issues, he’ll be an perennial MVP in a few years. Right now, Roy has to score and run his team (though he’s not great at the latter) and Deron does a great job of running the Jazz. Durant is basically given the rock to score, I haven’t seen much in playmaking abilities. SLAM is basically giving the Nobel Baller Prize to Durant…

    • ab_40 Posted: Oct.14 at 2:29 pm
      sorry another bad write up… whoever came up with that theory in general is A)American and B) good friends with john hubbard. because making things up and letting americans belive it is so damn easy. This writeup made no sense at all. This season will count as his ceiling he won’t grow mutch after this season so enjoy him while you can

    • Thype Posted: Oct.14 at 3:05 pm
      @ AB_40 - BRoy needs to up his defensive intensity, that’s about it. As it stands he’s a steady player, very little flash, and he makes the right decisions (generally). The Blazers winning a ring has more to do with his supporting cast at this point. If Oden (laugh) and/or Lamarcus can learn to score on the low block with consistency the rest will fall in to place. In the end, I’m not sure BRoy is the type of player who cares if he’s in the NBA elite. He knows, just like everyone else, that your worth is based on how your team does in the playoffs. It remains to be seen if he’s hit his ceiling or will at the end of the season, but it’s fair to say that if Paul Pierce can win a championship MVP so too can BRoy in a few years.

    • Smiles Posted: Oct.14 at 3:06 pm
      wtf are you talkin about bro?!

    • UnRel Posted: Oct.14 at 3:11 pm
      it was a bit of a hard read.. but whatever.. BRoy’s game is deserving to be recognized as a top 10 player in the L.. especially on a list of projected production.. however.. he hasn’t done a whole lot to be considered a top 10 talent.. but after kobe and dwade.. i can’t think of a better 2 than BRoy..

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.14 at 3:49 pm
      @Reflex…..:1)i have said many times that my comments represent MY OPINION so that makes them subjective by definition (i hope i know the correct meaning of the word) i never said that i represent any authority or whatever.
      2)You are writting about the possibility “Ben/Justin et al ” offering me a writing gig for the site. This has never been my objective (how could it be…?) and even if it was to happen i would propably have to reject it cause a) i got no such time b)they don’t need me since the guys that are already writing are doing a really good job most of the times (again IMO) c) i would lose all the fun of commenting(and often exagerating) & arguing without any limitations(writing for such a site requires a minimum level of seriousness always). At the same time i said that i “would PROPABLY have to reject” since the honor would be of great size and it would really put me into thoughts…
      @sab……..:every body knows i’m stupid (among other things….).If you don’t find something more original to write, then this was your first&last moment of fame.

    • K3v1n3o5 Posted: Oct.14 at 3:55 pm
      Why do some people think Durant is better than Roy.Durant has done nothing to make me think he is better.Roy has improved every year,which has surprised me as I was somebody who thought of Roy as a 20ppg 3reb 4sst at best player.He’s now at around 25,5,5 and has hit some highlight game winners(Rockets game anyone?).Granted,Roy isnt at Kobe,Wade,Bron level but he is a top 10 player,while Durant is not,YET!

    • K3v1n3o5 Posted: Oct.14 at 3:56 pm
      Why do some people think Durant is better than Roy?Durant has done nothing to make me think he is better.Roy has improved every year,which has surprised me as I was somebody who thought of Roy as a 20ppg 3reb 4sst at best player.He’s now at around 25,5,5 and has hit some highlight game winners(Rockets game anyone?).Granted,Roy isnt at Kobe,Wade,Bron level but he is a top 10 player,while Durant is not,YET!

    • Reflex Posted: Oct.14 at 4:11 pm
      Panagiotis, I wasn’t trying to imply that you were after a writing job here, my point was that as someone who has some knowlede on all things Euroball perhaps the editors of the site who’d appreciate your input on a bigger (editorial) level. I’m not going to carry on as I say I have no problem with you (it’s the internet ffs!) just would appreciate if you were a tad less overbearing with your comments. Otherwise, let’s dead the issue.
      Back to BROY, I can’t believe he’s ranked below Durant, Durant is my 2nd fav player in the league (#1 Wade, #3 Kobe) but at this point in time he’s not better than BRoy. I’d put Roy just behind Melo in terms of knocking on the door of the elite (Kobe, Wade, Bron). I don’t he’s far off being a complete player, the jumper’s there, the three is there, he can dish it with the best of them, isn’t selfish plus can get to the FT line when needed. In fact, if the way Oden’s been playing preseason is anything to go by then the Blazers could be a major problem to LAL & SAS.

    • Shem Posted: Oct.14 at 4:25 pm
      Alright, Rose will have a better year than Billups. Stats yes. Playoffs NO. But to be honest I dont know the criteria of this list and yes the MVP does have criteria. Which player is the most valuable to their team so apparently the Lakers need Kobe more then the Cavs need LeBron. Anyways Durant will have a better year statisically while Roy will have a better year playoff wise. Then again dont expect the Blazers to get too far i’d say 2nd round. Moving on, Roy is a beast. 23, 5, 5 and 1 with 48% shooting and 38% from 3 is DEFINETLY top 10. Oh and it will get better next year. Roy is already the 3rd best sg in the league and i BETTER not get an arguement on that. Crazy thing is hes only going into his 4th year? Well anyways LeBron better not be higher then Kobe or ill stop reading SLAM

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.14 at 4:41 pm
      @Shem…..:Manu is no-2 (after KOBE). You got Roy over Wade…? (i know,i know, i just wanted yo give you an argument) At the same time it seems that you have read your final issue of SLAM (and now what COSMOPOLITAN…???)

    • SHAN Posted: Oct.14 at 4:52 pm
      Once again BRoy beating out my DWill for a meaningless accolade to add to his collection of many, for two straight years(actually three)Brandon is the reason for DWill being snubbed in the west. Him and CP, grrrr….if you cant tell I really have something against both of them for that and maybe it slightly affects my logic but I really dont think so. Deron in my opinion is better than both of them, and has gotten farther in the playoffs than both of them put together. I know some CP ball licker will say thats because Deron has a better team and some Blazer fan will say the Blazers were young and whatev but remember Deron made it to the WCF in 2007, his second year and in regards to CP and his inflated stats one only needs to look to new Orleans mangement. If they could get some real players around him, he wouldnt have to do everything for his team and would have more human like stats.
      anyway GO JAZZ!!!

    • SHAN Posted: Oct.14 at 5:08 pm
      oh yeah if your going to try and grapple with TOE(look it up) or paralell universes or ontological ideas at least try and make it transition well…damn.

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 5:08 pm
      shan you can’t call someone who defends cp’s “unhuman” stats a ball licker while you express your biased with no real reason to think dwill is better. Darko has a championship ring does that mean he is better then LeBron and should have gone first in 2003? Same concept you ignorant jazz fan

    • Allenp Posted: Oct.14 at 5:10 pm
      Shem, I think you’ll be done with Slam by the end of the summer based on your earlier comment.

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 5:12 pm
      I’m an admitted CP ball licker, so whatever. I happen to like all 3 players. I’ve never understood the ‘inflated stats’ argument? Besides, I don’t need stats to watch a game and tell me whether or not a player can play.

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 5:17 pm
      the inflated stats argument is what someone who has no reasoning behind their beliefs uses to justify an unjustifiable position.

    • Ramn Posted: Oct.14 at 5:24 pm
      Players Minnesota had drafted: Roy, Mayo, Garnett, Ray Allen

    • 360vue Posted: Oct.14 at 5:24 pm
      @ cb34; I like your malone, charles comparisons, but I don’t know about Durant being one dimensional. Perhaps chips do really decide who will go down in the annals of basketball history as the greatest, but for me, I know, considering 29 teams don’t win a chip each year, that there is generally too much talent in the assosication for only those with rings to be considered great.
      However, granted, KD is definitely fragile, but its not hard to put on 20-30 lbs over a summer, especially as a pro athlete with all their nutrionists and fitness coaches. Additionally, I do think KD has the ability and fundamentals to be able to improve on the weaker facets of his game, particularly his defense. But I agree with you, KD does get too much of the credit at OKC, Green is pretty intense, and i rate westbrook very highly too.
      —-
      GREEK DUDE, RELAX. I don’t know whether its your Greek-English or yourself, but you seem a bit too voiciferous in your fairly single minded opinions

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 5:32 pm
      Players Minnesota has traded: Roy, Mayo, Garnett, Ray Allen. I say that is about par for the course.

    • BIRDMAN JR Posted: Oct.14 at 5:35 pm
      nbk, TADOne are 100. Isn’t stats a reflection of what happens on the court. You can’t deny CPs 22, 11, 5, 3 and LeBron’s 28,7,7. Those numbers are legendary, Isiah and kobe never touched those numbers even in their prime. Just give credit where it’s due and stop being blinded my hate.

    • BIRDMAN JR Posted: Oct.14 at 5:35 pm
      nbk, TADOne are 100. Isn’t stats a reflection of what happens on the court. You can’t deny CPs 22, 11, 5, 3 and LeBron’s 28,7,7. Those numbers are legendary, Isiah and kobe never touched those numbers even in their prime. Just give credit where it’s due and stop being blinded by hate.

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 5:36 pm
      As for Durant, I can’t stress enough the young man is only 22. Name many of your favorite players past, present, and future and you will see most of them did not accomplish much until around their 4th or 5th years in the league while they were in their mid-20’s. Granted, Slam may be ranking Durant a tad bit high in a lot of peoples minds at this point in his career, but if he blows up this season don’t come bacl all surprised. Besides, these are just OPINIONS, not facts. Clearly it is nothing to get wildly upset about. Just enjoy the writeups and the discussions.

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 5:37 pm
      *back

    • BIRDMAN JR Posted: Oct.14 at 5:38 pm
      It’s been said before men lie, broads lie, numbers never lie.

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 5:44 pm
      Durant will be somewhat overrated until he learns how to play team and man to man defense. No matter if he scored 30 a game this season

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 5:49 pm
      Well, Melo will be ranked higher on the list and we all know that his defense is pretty much non-existant. His offense is a thing of beauty, though.

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 5:53 pm
      true that, thats why i always disagree with the slam top 50 because it places such a huge importance on offensive production and basically disregards defense. Although Rondo’s ranking was a pleasant suprise

    • davidR Posted: Oct.14 at 6:05 pm
      haha @ anton’s #9

    • davidR Posted: Oct.14 at 6:06 pm
      great write up jake. was an interesting read, but was hoping you would’ve added some real analysis. you still get props for the creativity though

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.14 at 6:09 pm
      In the same token, when the list was done two years ago, people were screaming that Garnett was way too high because all he did was play D and rebound ( I think he was top 5?). Everyone has different values placed on players for different things.

    • Allenp Posted: Oct.14 at 6:12 pm
      Birdman
      In response to your comment about numbers.
      Mark Twan said there are “Lies, damn lies and statistics.”

    • 360vue Posted: Oct.14 at 6:17 pm
      nbk, lay off durant. His D criticisms are too severe; he’s very young, how many younger players come in and play lock down D from the off? A handful each decade, let alone each draft year. Not to say he is anywhere near a lockdown defender, but my point is that defending in the NBA is an art, and only a gifted few have it intrinsically in them, the rest learn it through years of experience.I also know you’re not an OKC fan, so you’ve very probably seen very few thunder games to be really be able to judge him on. I’ve seen more than my fair share and his D gets nailed too much, of course the best SG/SF in the L rape him , his defense barely scrapes the average grade, and additionally those two positions are generally laden with players who have impeccable attacking assets, thus making it easier for them to pick apart weak defending, whilst those two positions also generally have the ball most frequently in the dangerous areas, forcing his D to be highlighted whilst others in different positions with worse D get away with it. Then again, by that token, considering he is a swing-forward he really should improve on the D end. Anyway, lets be frank, O always trumps D in apparent value and media recognition, its a fact of sporting life. And don’t get me wrong, KD needs to improve his D considerably to get to where he could be (which is one of the greats) but none the less, I feel too many people lay into him on a matter they apparently no little about, most of the thunder squad need to imrpove their D considerably (24 wins says it all) and before you criticise my defense of the man, I aint praising his D in anyway shape or form, just standing up against the criticisms that are TOO harsh and trying to get you to see an alternative perspective

    • SHAN Posted: Oct.14 at 6:47 pm
      NBK….”the inflated stats argument is what someone who has no reasoning behind their beliefs uses to justify an unjustifiable position.” thats what he said. but, this is what she said: The ‘inflated stats’ argument is actually a good place to start. Esepecially when the two players we are comparing are both point guards whos stats are negligibly close in all areas except for steals, YET because CP has slightly superior stats, most stat guys(like most of you)read into them so much as does the MENACING media that makes up most of your opinions and assumes and also propogates the idea that Deron is second best behind CP(not true) Secondly, This inflated stat argument also speaks volumes about just how much better Deron really is, considering he plays for the Utah Jazz, a much more organized calculated offense as opposed to Byron Scotts free for all. Deron would probably average 25/15 in that lacadasical system. Dude(s) I could go on all DAMN DAY and justify several reasons for why CP will always be second best when compared to Deron and it will make more sense than youre willing to admit but Id rather toy with you for a while before that. And also its slightly irrelevant because this is after all a team game thay play, this isnt golf. Numbers, especially statistics for that matter, are just this; a powerful tool of propaganda and usually the accumulation of them are used in a general way to sway an opinion, so yes they are comparable to lies even they though what they measure (seemingly) is raw data, they can flipped in all kinds of ways to favor one view or another…its done all the time, most notedly in sports. please, call me ignorant and whatever but I have a special POV that most of you dont. I live in Salt Lake and can watch all of our games, most of you obtain what you know about Deron with a handful of games or youtube, or better yet PER or even better STATS. Not even a minor fraction of a percent of people have league pass and if they did, they wouldnt watch my Jazz, no way….. tadone…if you didnt need the stats to make up a bulk of the logic behind your arguments you wouldnt have anything to talk about on here, you know, since youre on here all day….

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 6:55 pm
      First and foremost Shan the people who are talking against your inflated stats argument me and allenp watch a lot of basketball, we don’t judge players from their stats. And USING UTAH’S offensive system as your reasoning why CP has better stats then Deron is a big huge red flag showing your ignorance on the subject. John Stockton ran that exact same offense throughout his entire career and has an uncatchable lead is career assists and steals. The system is not why deron williams is not as good as CP, he just isn’t. And stats have to have some importance on anyone’s judgement, if not there is no way to compare a player with another without it being purely opinion. Your pure opinion would say Deron is better, my opinion, stats, and coaches would side with Chris Paul. Either way using the 2nd best offensive system in the NBA as a crutch to why a player is not as good as another is once again an ignorant justification for an opinion

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 6:56 pm
      And i Have league pass and watch just about every single game. Plus i am a college student who works in an office so i have nothing but a computer infront of me 75% of the time, which is why i seem to be on here “all day”

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 6:58 pm
      judge a player *just* from their stats, my bad

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 7:02 pm
      oh and for the record, normally when your teammates are worse your scoring stats are better not your assists. Odd though, CP is better at both

    • Z Posted: Oct.14 at 7:12 pm
      Allen, I agree and disagree with you. Brandon Roy is IMO not the cornerstone of a team with championship aspirations unless you’re building a team à la Detroit. However, he is not a ball hog at all. He dominates the ball in a Bron/Wade type: he is essentially the pg in the half court, he just doesnt bring the ball up. / Durant and Melo are already way too high. Their impact on the game is marginal. Empty buckets galore.

    • Don Posted: Oct.14 at 7:21 pm
      i know that THE GREEK dude can be annoying, i just don’t see the point of dissing this dude in the forum, you don’t even see him. point is, BROY deserves this spot.

    • T.J. Posted: Oct.14 at 7:25 pm
      You gotta be kiddin me with this one. How does Broy make it this low and JJ doesn’t? They basically do the same exact thing for their teams except the Hawks make it a lil further

    • SHAN Posted: Oct.14 at 7:30 pm
      you referring to me as ‘ignorant’ is hilarious…btw.

    • Bryan Posted: Oct.14 at 7:31 pm
      Birdman : kobe put up 30 7 and 6 and 35 5 and 5 and is 25 5 and 5 for his career. Isiah put up 22 and 14 along with 4 boards and 2 steals. Check your facts.

    • SHAN Posted: Oct.14 at 7:34 pm
      its ok if youre on here all day, Im just saying for people who are on here all day, stats must be a huge part of the reason why, its ok I work in a office as well and im all over every site.

    • SHAN Posted: Oct.14 at 7:34 pm
      its ok if youre on here all day, Im just saying for people who are on here all day, stats must be a huge part of the reason why, its ok I work in a office as well and im all over every site.

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.14 at 7:36 pm
      BIRDMAN JR…are u serious?! your sayin bron and cp3 put better stats than kobe so they are better?? kobe puts better numbers than those 2 in the playoffs and more importantly in the freakin finals!!!AND IM FAR WAY FROM BEING A LAKER FAN!!

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.14 at 7:38 pm
      but imo for me bron is nº1…swap them and LA is unbeatable while Cavs are not

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.14 at 7:41 pm
      but bron is nº1 imo…swap them and LA is unbeatable while cavs would not be…kob has the best supporting cast

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.14 at 7:47 pm
      dont get these people sayin they would not build a franshise around Roy…YOU MUST HAVE A GOOD SUPPORTING CAST OBVIOUSLLY, kobe without one cant do nothing also…Roy is as good a FRANSHISE PLAYER as anyone not named LeBron, Kobe, Wade, D12 or CP3, I guarantee you that!

    • tavoris Posted: Oct.14 at 8:10 pm
      hey TADOne, Durant just turned 21 two weeks ago…

    • Shem Posted: Oct.14 at 8:31 pm
      Remember, this is a prediction for next year so I can see why Joe Johnson hasnt made it up here. Oh and I’m sure SLAM will realize that putting LeBron (championship-LESS) over the all time great KB24 with 4 rings and soon to be 5.. yeah i said it. Oh and for Birdman: LeBron is the only star on that cavs team (or was until shaq came). Don’t tell me Mo and Delonte are stars they are just solid role players. So back to your point on KOBE never touching 28,7,7. You are so wrong. Kobe averaged 35,5,5 on a Lakers team with many role players but no stars. Oh and Kobe does has 4 rings (By the way I’m not even close to a Kobe fan, he dropped 81 on my raps but you gotta give respect when its deserved)

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.14 at 8:54 pm
      Why do people always say guys like Joe Johnson and Brandon Roy should only be fit to play second banana? In case you guys haven’t noticed, there are only a handful of players in this league you can call complete franchise players, who can take their teams to the playoffs without any outside help. If you’re lucky enough to land a talent like Brandon Roy, you build around him and try to support him. You do NOT try and tank your entire freaking season so that you can try your hand at LeBron, against 29 other teams in the NBA. That’s ridiculous.

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.14 at 8:56 pm
      Also, stats don’t lie but they can be skewed.

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.14 at 9:17 pm
      Yo Allenp, do you still blog?

    • nbk Posted: Oct.14 at 10:08 pm
      this site has the a few posters that really know the game, they are fun to talk ish with, thats why i check these boards periodically throughout the day. It has nothing to do with stats.

    • yaboy Posted: Oct.14 at 10:40 pm
      Unless you Nene squeezed into the top 10 some how, I’m gonna go ahead and say that’s a nasty snub. You’ve guys have a total of 2 C’s so far, (3 if you got Pau at C) and will add only Dwight. I gotta say Nene deserves it more than Mayo, Iverson, and Nelson.

    • mtindore520 Posted: Oct.14 at 11:31 pm
      this guy is not better than D-Will…but i still like him as a franchise player.

    • The D Train Posted: Oct.14 at 11:36 pm
      @Teddy: I totally agree with your statement at 8:54. I would add the addendum that if there are a handful of players who can “take their teams to the playoffs without any outside help”, that there are zero players who can win in the playoffs without any outside help. Even the majestic Kobe and Lebron need help. Witness Kobe sans Shaq and before Gas-hole. The NBA is so good that even the brightest of the bright need exceptional help to win. For all that say Roy cant lead a team to the championship is just ridiculi-Volkov. MJ, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe…all the recent greats that have won have had an All-Star and/or HOF’er with them. Since there are so few HOF’ers or All-Stars in the league that qualify as sidekicks, its totally retarded to rail against Roy, Durant, Rose or any of these young cats becasue they can’t win a title without help. If Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Paul and Duncan can’t do it (although I have to say that Wade comes the closest to being the singular reason for a title) alone, who thinks anyone else can?!?

    • K3v1n3o5 Posted: Oct.14 at 11:43 pm
      Roy is definitely as franchise player.He as of right now is a bit better than Melo,and Melo is better than Durant.Also,D-Will is better than Durant right now too.

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.14 at 11:49 pm
      @ cb 34: If Kevin Durant becomes the next T-Mac, then the hype really won’t be overdone. T-Mac is one of the best, most gifted players the league has seen this decade. For a few consecutive years he was actually the best player in the league. So if Kevin Durant does live up to his hype, which is to dominate the league, than being T-Mac really isn’t a bad thing, at all. But they are two pretty different players.

    • nbk Posted: Oct.15 at 12:01 am
      Kevin Durant is nothing like Tracy McGrady. He has the potential to be better, but at no point in mcgrady’s career has he played like Durant or Vice Versa

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.15 at 12:07 am
      I agree, that’s why I said they’re two pretty different players.

    • Blackrick Posted: Oct.15 at 12:07 am
      KD is a top 10 player in the NBA right now,i don’t know what the hell people are thinking.BRoy is too,other then Kobe i wouldn’t take another 2guard over him as of now.

    • nbk Posted: Oct.15 at 12:15 am
      no doubt teddy i just don’t even see the comparison. I mean they are/were both very young lanky wing players but Durant is more of a shooter who can create but dominately for himself. McGrady shot A LOT when he first came to the Magic but he also created for everyone else. He had a much better handle on creating for his teammates. Durant has a much better jumpshot. There are no defensive comparisons because there is barely any defense. I guess that works though

    • Tariq Posted: Oct.15 at 12:26 am
      So according to this list, Kevin Durant will be MVP or something? Talk about multiverses.

    • cb 34 Posted: Oct.15 at 12:27 am
      @ teddy:Yeah t-mac is one of the most gifted players for the last decade but when it comes down to it i see him as a disappointment. Yeah for 2 or 3 years the debate over who was better between him and kob was real and now he’s a sort of forgotten man. Hasn’t been relevant in years when he could have done so much. Imagine if tracy had kob’s work ethic. That would have been an unbelievable player. Durant will put up numbers throughout no doubt. If that’s all he’s after, but he’s a fragile player who will get 8 rebounds a night not through his hustle but because of his height. He looks like he’s injury prone too but i got nothing to support that. Just not impressed. He’s a big guy with range and that’s all he can do. Trust me this guy will be a loser like t-mac and grant hill when all is said and done.

    • drew Posted: Oct.15 at 12:31 am
      damn the people who say durants better than roy dont know much. Roy has made 2 allstar games and made his team wat they are now. Wat has Durant really done???GHS

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.15 at 1:07 am
      Roy´s better than Durant…@cb34: you sayin Durant will be a loser is just stupid, sorry dude.. you think hes injury prone cause hes skinny and thats somewhat ignorant I think…Im no doctor but I know strong often injured athlets and skinny guys who are actually tough as iron, theres also luck and work ethic but the kid IS A SPECIAL ALMOST LEBRON KIND OF PLAYER..HES JUST NOT CLOSE TO THAT YET BUT ALL THINGS GO NORMAL AND ITS BETWEEN HIM AND BRON IN 5 YEARS( the MVP of course) cause the ships will end up in the RIP CITY BABY!!!!!!!!!!

    • cb 34 Posted: Oct.15 at 1:55 am
      @ alfonso: I’m not saying he’s gonna get injured because he’s skinny, he just strikes me as a very fragile player who isn’t that tough. I can’t believe you’re putting him in lebron’s class even in 5 years. Maybe but you gotta remmeber bron’s game is complete, kd is nothing but a scorer pure and simple. I don’t even know how you can make that comparison.

    • sab Posted: Oct.15 at 3:03 am
      “he only gets 8 rebounds a night cos of his height” - plenty of people his height don’t get that many rebounds…

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.15 at 5:46 am
      CB34 BRON IS A MUCH BETTER PASSER AND DURANT A MUCH BETTER 3BALL SHOOTER…THERE YOU HAVE THE MAIN DIFFERENCE…DEFENSE,ALSO,BUT BRON WITH 21 WAS AS BAD A DEFENDER AS KD

    • karan Posted: Oct.15 at 5:52 am
      Kanye West: “I’ma let you ejaculate”…HAHAHAHHA

    • Juice20 Posted: Oct.15 at 7:19 am
      durant for prez lol kid is nice

    • Solon Posted: Oct.15 at 9:32 am
      For all you trying to defend the iRoy coverup: Baron Davis 2007-08 stats:
      82 games played
      21.8 points per game (#12 in NBA)
      7.6 assists
      4.7 rebounds
      2.8 steals (3rd in NBA) Warriors record:48-34. 1 game back. Most wins ever for a team that didn’t make the playoffs. Led the highest scoring offense on the most exciting team in the league. Brandon Roy 2007-2008 Stats
      74 games played
      19.1 Points
      5.8 Assists
      4.7 Rebounds
      1.1 steals game Blazers record: 41-41. Tied for 10th in the west. Led the 3rd lowest scoring team in the league to an “inspiring” and “hopeful” .500 season. Just really not even close. Boom dizzle was robbed, and so were the warriors. Oh and 2nd best SG in the west during 2007???-naw son. Kobe-check. T-Mac-better Ginobli-Better. So maybe 4th. And still-this was for the reserve spot-any guard or forward could be voted in. Didn’t matter about position. David West was one, and Roy was the other.
      He is better now-no doubt, but was robbed in 07. that is all

    • tavoris Posted: Oct.15 at 9:51 am
      Solon, the numbers Davis put up were nice, but stats are empty in Don Nelson’s system. That was Davis’s best season, but he is seen (by every GM & coach in the NBA) as a underachiever, a la Marbury. That’s why he didn’t make it.

    • Allenp Posted: Oct.15 at 11:19 am
      Teddy
      Yeah, I still blog.
      NBK
      McGrady was actually a pretty good defender when motivated. He typically guarded the best wing player when he was with the Raptors. He started to get lax on defense in Orlando because he was scoring so much.

    • Lazarus Posted: Oct.15 at 9:31 pm
      Top 10! Werd. Best player claim.

    • Marcus Posted: Oct.28 at 2:00 pm
      One, dont say roy brandon, it’s brandon roy, two i hate you, and three that dumb ass named solon, Your dumb, Fuck Durant, And fuck you, where was the thunder in the playoffs, oh yeah thats right they didn’t make it to the playoff’s cuz why, cuz durant sucks he wont ever carry a team, Brandon roy has. Dumb ass.

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