Wednesday, October 14th, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  166 responses

Top 50: Brandon Roy, no. 10

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

By Jake Appleman/@JakeAppleman

“You ever heard of the multiverse theory, Brian?…The theory states that there are an infinite number of universes co-existing with ours on parallel dimensional planes…Now, in each of these alternate universes the reality is different from our own. Sometimes only slightly, sometimes quite raBrandon Roydically; the point is, every possible eventuality exists.” – Stewie Griffin. (While Family Guy has fallen off precipitously over the past few seasons, this season’s first episode, which dealt with the theory stated above, did not disappoint.)

The midwife shrieked with glee. Never before had her job been so easy. The kid just popped out, smooth, barely a push from his mom needed. It was as if he said, “it’s my time, bring to me the light–and I’m going to stay there forever.” Of course, for anyone that’s seen Roy Brandon play ball, that his birth mimics his game isn’t surprising.  What’s truly ridiculous is that the immediate moments afterwards captured the essence of his personality. The infant pointed his little fingers and blatantly mocked the obstetrician’s mangled stethoscope. Arrogant trash talk at five minutes old? Roy Brandon wouldn’t have it any other way.

Flash forward to the present and it’s a big year for Brandon. His tumultuous off-season began when a Spanish rapper that signed to his fledgling label, Roy-alty Records, suckered T-Wolves rookie Ricky Rubio into criticizing his new general manager, Bill Simmons. New York Post reporter Peter “the garter snake” Vescey labeled it “The Spanish Inquisition.”  Then, Brandon added insult to his injury-free career when he rejected a four year contract extension for max money, antagonizing the diehard Portland fans that are growing weary of his antics.

For those not familiar, a quick recap:

–Ever since draft night 2006, Brandon, feeling snubbed, has referred to Andrea Bargnani, Adam Morrison, Tyrus Thomas and Shelden Williams–all selected before him–as “Who,” “What,” “Why,” and “You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.”

–On his Twitter feed, Brandon noted that while he’d never taken a business course in college, he’d come up with a formula to succeed at endorsement promotion. “I’ve deduced that Stephon Marbury + Good At Basketball = Mad Money, like the bald dude on MSNBC that looks like a rabid squirrel,” he wrote.

–At the suggestion of a gawky, magazine writer Roy decided to ask all reporters to pronounce his name “Wah,” like the hockey goalie, in an effort to up his Q rating in tiny Portland. Efforts to remake the “wahhhhh-saaaaaaaa” Budweiser commercials were blocked by David Stern, because “pro athletes selling beer to kids is wrong; especially light beer.”

–All throughout President Barack Obama’s campaign, Roy would respond to any question from The Oregonian’s John Canzano with a quick, “Yes We Can-zano!” before ignoring the topic at hand and waiting for another question.

–It’s been rumored that Brandon stormed out of a Nike meeting, threatening to legally change his name to Roy Brand-One, a possible moniker for his potential venture into the Chinese sneaker market. Sources close to the Blazers believe he’s intent on becoming the NBA’s OchoCinco, if the NBA’s OchoCinco had a tattoo in Chinese letters that meant, “Arrogance Is Controlled Awesomeness.”

–Brandon skipped a home game against the Bobcats, claiming on his blog that he had a bad case of “plantar fascism.” That night, at an awards show, Brandon was reportedly seen cavorting alongside a nominated rapper.  And yes, Drake’s “Coffee Cake” won the Grammy over Jay-Z’s “AOL 3.0 Blueprint”, Eminem’s “If You Say Pause One More Time, I’m Going to Kill You” and Kanye’s “I’ma Let You Ejaculate.”


When you add it all up, it’s only reasonable to believe that this talented band of bad apples–which includes the gun-toting Nicolas Batum and that guy with the “Steve to the motherfucking Blake” tattoo across his chest–might implode under such heavy expectations. One wouldn’t blame pessimistic fans for pining for the days of the Good Samaritan Blazers, typified by Rasheed Wallace delicately handing out towels to teammates, Ruben Patterson fighting for the legal rights of underpaid, immigrant nannies and the Bonzi Scheme, a triangular, step by step guide of how to properly treat members of the credentialed media.

Alas, it’s a different era in Rip City.

All that noted, isn’t it pretty amazing that Roy Brandon–with his buttery jumper, impressive midrange game, fearless forays to the tin, late-game heroics and teammate-improving intangibles–is still a top ten player in the league?

(For actual analysis on Brandon Roy and this universe’s Portland Trail Blazers, feel free to check out The Oregonian, TrueHoop and BlazersEdge, among others I’m surely forgetting.)

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.



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  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m an admitted CP ball licker, so whatever. I happen to like all 3 players. I’ve never understood the ‘inflated stats’ argument? Besides, I don’t need stats to watch a game and tell me whether or not a player can play.

  • http://wtfslamonline.com nbk

    the inflated stats argument is what someone who has no reasoning behind their beliefs uses to justify an unjustifiable position.

  • Ramn

    Players Minnesota had drafted: Roy, Mayo, Garnett, Ray Allen

  • http://slamonline.com 360vue

    @ cb34; I like your malone, charles comparisons, but I don’t know about Durant being one dimensional. Perhaps chips do really decide who will go down in the annals of basketball history as the greatest, but for me, I know, considering 29 teams don’t win a chip each year, that there is generally too much talent in the assosication for only those with rings to be considered great.
    However, granted, KD is definitely fragile, but its not hard to put on 20-30 lbs over a summer, especially as a pro athlete with all their nutrionists and fitness coaches. Additionally, I do think KD has the ability and fundamentals to be able to improve on the weaker facets of his game, particularly his defense. But I agree with you, KD does get too much of the credit at OKC, Green is pretty intense, and i rate westbrook very highly too.
    —-
    GREEK DUDE, RELAX. I don’t know whether its your Greek-English or yourself, but you seem a bit too voiciferous in your fairly single minded opinions

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Players Minnesota has traded: Roy, Mayo, Garnett, Ray Allen. I say that is about par for the course.

  • BIRDMAN JR

    nbk, TADOne are 100. Isn’t stats a reflection of what happens on the court. You can’t deny CPs 22, 11, 5, 3 and LeBron’s 28,7,7. Those numbers are legendary, Isiah and kobe never touched those numbers even in their prime. Just give credit where it’s due and stop being blinded my hate.

  • BIRDMAN JR

    nbk, TADOne are 100. Isn’t stats a reflection of what happens on the court. You can’t deny CPs 22, 11, 5, 3 and LeBron’s 28,7,7. Those numbers are legendary, Isiah and kobe never touched those numbers even in their prime. Just give credit where it’s due and stop being blinded by hate.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    As for Durant, I can’t stress enough the young man is only 22. Name many of your favorite players past, present, and future and you will see most of them did not accomplish much until around their 4th or 5th years in the league while they were in their mid-20′s. Granted, Slam may be ranking Durant a tad bit high in a lot of peoples minds at this point in his career, but if he blows up this season don’t come bacl all surprised. Besides, these are just OPINIONS, not facts. Clearly it is nothing to get wildly upset about. Just enjoy the writeups and the discussions.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    *back

  • BIRDMAN JR

    It’s been said before men lie, broads lie, numbers never lie.

  • http://wtfslamonline.com nbk

    Durant will be somewhat overrated until he learns how to play team and man to man defense. No matter if he scored 30 a game this season

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Well, Melo will be ranked higher on the list and we all know that his defense is pretty much non-existant. His offense is a thing of beauty, though.

  • http://wtfslamonline.com nbk

    true that, thats why i always disagree with the slam top 50 because it places such a huge importance on offensive production and basically disregards defense. Although Rondo’s ranking was a pleasant suprise

  • davidR

    haha @ anton’s #9

  • davidR

    great write up jake. was an interesting read, but was hoping you would’ve added some real analysis. you still get props for the creativity though

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    In the same token, when the list was done two years ago, people were screaming that Garnett was way too high because all he did was play D and rebound ( I think he was top 5?). Everyone has different values placed on players for different things.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Birdman
    In response to your comment about numbers.
    Mark Twan said there are “Lies, damn lies and statistics.”

  • http://slamonline.com 360vue

    nbk, lay off durant. His D criticisms are too severe; he’s very young, how many younger players come in and play lock down D from the off? A handful each decade, let alone each draft year. Not to say he is anywhere near a lockdown defender, but my point is that defending in the NBA is an art, and only a gifted few have it intrinsically in them, the rest learn it through years of experience.I also know you’re not an OKC fan, so you’ve very probably seen very few thunder games to be really be able to judge him on. I’ve seen more than my fair share and his D gets nailed too much, of course the best SG/SF in the L rape him , his defense barely scrapes the average grade, and additionally those two positions are generally laden with players who have impeccable attacking assets, thus making it easier for them to pick apart weak defending, whilst those two positions also generally have the ball most frequently in the dangerous areas, forcing his D to be highlighted whilst others in different positions with worse D get away with it. Then again, by that token, considering he is a swing-forward he really should improve on the D end. Anyway, lets be frank, O always trumps D in apparent value and media recognition, its a fact of sporting life. And don’t get me wrong, KD needs to improve his D considerably to get to where he could be (which is one of the greats) but none the less, I feel too many people lay into him on a matter they apparently no little about, most of the thunder squad need to imrpove their D considerably (24 wins says it all) and before you criticise my defense of the man, I aint praising his D in anyway shape or form, just standing up against the criticisms that are TOO harsh and trying to get you to see an alternative perspective

  • SHAN

    NBK….”the inflated stats argument is what someone who has no reasoning behind their beliefs uses to justify an unjustifiable position.”

    thats what he said.

    but,

    this is what she said:

    The ‘inflated stats’ argument is actually a good place to start. Esepecially when the two players we are comparing are both point guards whos stats are negligibly close in all areas except for steals, YET because CP has slightly superior stats, most stat guys(like most of you)read into them so much as does the MENACING media that makes up most of your opinions and assumes and also propogates the idea that Deron is second best behind CP(not true)

    Secondly, This inflated stat argument also speaks volumes about just how much better Deron really is, considering he plays for the Utah Jazz, a much more organized calculated offense as opposed to Byron Scotts free for all. Deron would probably average 25/15 in that lacadasical system.

    Dude(s) I could go on all DAMN DAY and justify several reasons for why CP will always be second best when compared to Deron and it will make more sense than youre willing to admit but Id rather toy with you for a while before that.

    And also its slightly irrelevant because this is after all a team game thay play, this isnt golf.

    Numbers, especially statistics for that matter, are just this; a powerful tool of propaganda and usually the accumulation of them are used in a general way to sway an opinion, so yes they are comparable to lies even they though what they measure (seemingly) is raw data, they can flipped in all kinds of ways to favor one view or another…its done all the time, most notedly in sports.

    please, call me ignorant and whatever but I have a special POV that most of you dont. I live in Salt Lake and can watch all of our games, most of you obtain what you know about Deron with a handful of games or youtube, or better yet PER or even better STATS. Not even a minor fraction of a percent of people have league pass and if they did, they wouldnt watch my Jazz, no way…..

    tadone…if you didnt need the stats to make up a bulk of the logic behind your arguments you wouldnt have anything to talk about on here, you know, since youre on here all day….

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    First and foremost Shan the people who are talking against your inflated stats argument me and allenp watch a lot of basketball, we don’t judge players from their stats. And USING UTAH’S offensive system as your reasoning why CP has better stats then Deron is a big huge red flag showing your ignorance on the subject. John Stockton ran that exact same offense throughout his entire career and has an uncatchable lead is career assists and steals. The system is not why deron williams is not as good as CP, he just isn’t. And stats have to have some importance on anyone’s judgement, if not there is no way to compare a player with another without it being purely opinion. Your pure opinion would say Deron is better, my opinion, stats, and coaches would side with Chris Paul. Either way using the 2nd best offensive system in the NBA as a crutch to why a player is not as good as another is once again an ignorant justification for an opinion

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And i Have league pass and watch just about every single game. Plus i am a college student who works in an office so i have nothing but a computer infront of me 75% of the time, which is why i seem to be on here “all day”

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    judge a player *just* from their stats, my bad

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    oh and for the record, normally when your teammates are worse your scoring stats are better not your assists. Odd though, CP is better at both

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Allen, I agree and disagree with you. Brandon Roy is IMO not the cornerstone of a team with championship aspirations unless you’re building a team à la Detroit. However, he is not a ball hog at all. He dominates the ball in a Bron/Wade type: he is essentially the pg in the half court, he just doesnt bring the ball up. / Durant and Melo are already way too high. Their impact on the game is marginal. Empty buckets galore.

  • Don

    i know that THE GREEK dude can be annoying, i just don’t see the point of dissing this dude in the forum, you don’t even see him. point is, BROY deserves this spot.

  • http://astrokidz.blogspot.com T.J.

    You gotta be kiddin me with this one. How does Broy make it this low and JJ doesn’t? They basically do the same exact thing for their teams except the Hawks make it a lil further

  • SHAN

    you referring to me as ‘ignorant’ is hilarious…btw.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Birdman : kobe put up 30 7 and 6 and 35 5 and 5 and is 25 5 and 5 for his career. Isiah put up 22 and 14 along with 4 boards and 2 steals. Check your facts.

  • SHAN

    its ok if youre on here all day, Im just saying for people who are on here all day, stats must be a huge part of the reason why, its ok I work in a office as well and im all over every site.

  • SHAN

    its ok if youre on here all day, Im just saying for people who are on here all day, stats must be a huge part of the reason why, its ok I work in a office as well and im all over every site.

  • Afonso

    BIRDMAN JR…are u serious?! your sayin bron and cp3 put better stats than kobe so they are better?? kobe puts better numbers than those 2 in the playoffs and more importantly in the freakin finals!!!AND IM FAR WAY FROM BEING A LAKER FAN!!

  • Afonso

    but imo for me bron is nº1…swap them and LA is unbeatable while Cavs are not

  • Afonso

    but bron is nº1 imo…swap them and LA is unbeatable while cavs would not be…kob has the best supporting cast

  • Afonso

    dont get these people sayin they would not build a franshise around Roy…YOU MUST HAVE A GOOD SUPPORTING CAST OBVIOUSLLY, kobe without one cant do nothing also…Roy is as good a FRANSHISE PLAYER as anyone not named LeBron, Kobe, Wade, D12 or CP3, I guarantee you that!

  • tavoris

    hey TADOne, Durant just turned 21 two weeks ago…

  • Shem

    Remember, this is a prediction for next year so I can see why Joe Johnson hasnt made it up here. Oh and I’m sure SLAM will realize that putting LeBron (championship-LESS) over the all time great KB24 with 4 rings and soon to be 5.. yeah i said it. Oh and for Birdman: LeBron is the only star on that cavs team (or was until shaq came). Don’t tell me Mo and Delonte are stars they are just solid role players. So back to your point on KOBE never touching 28,7,7. You are so wrong. Kobe averaged 35,5,5 on a Lakers team with many role players but no stars. Oh and Kobe does has 4 rings (By the way I’m not even close to a Kobe fan, he dropped 81 on my raps but you gotta give respect when its deserved)

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Why do people always say guys like Joe Johnson and Brandon Roy should only be fit to play second banana? In case you guys haven’t noticed, there are only a handful of players in this league you can call complete franchise players, who can take their teams to the playoffs without any outside help. If you’re lucky enough to land a talent like Brandon Roy, you build around him and try to support him. You do NOT try and tank your entire freaking season so that you can try your hand at LeBron, against 29 other teams in the NBA. That’s ridiculous.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Also, stats don’t lie but they can be skewed.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Yo Allenp, do you still blog?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    this site has the a few posters that really know the game, they are fun to talk ish with, thats why i check these boards periodically throughout the day. It has nothing to do with stats.

  • yaboy

    Unless you Nene squeezed into the top 10 some how, I’m gonna go ahead and say that’s a nasty snub. You’ve guys have a total of 2 C’s so far, (3 if you got Pau at C) and will add only Dwight. I gotta say Nene deserves it more than Mayo, Iverson, and Nelson.

  • mtindore520

    this guy is not better than D-Will…but i still like him as a franchise player.

  • The D Train

    @Teddy: I totally agree with your statement at 8:54. I would add the addendum that if there are a handful of players who can “take their teams to the playoffs without any outside help”, that there are zero players who can win in the playoffs without any outside help. Even the majestic Kobe and Lebron need help. Witness Kobe sans Shaq and before Gas-hole. The NBA is so good that even the brightest of the bright need exceptional help to win. For all that say Roy cant lead a team to the championship is just ridiculi-Volkov. MJ, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe…all the recent greats that have won have had an All-Star and/or HOF’er with them. Since there are so few HOF’ers or All-Stars in the league that qualify as sidekicks, its totally retarded to rail against Roy, Durant, Rose or any of these young cats becasue they can’t win a title without help. If Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Paul and Duncan can’t do it (although I have to say that Wade comes the closest to being the singular reason for a title) alone, who thinks anyone else can?!?

  • K3v1n3o5

    Roy is definitely as franchise player.He as of right now is a bit better than Melo,and Melo is better than Durant.Also,D-Will is better than Durant right now too.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ cb 34: If Kevin Durant becomes the next T-Mac, then the hype really won’t be overdone. T-Mac is one of the best, most gifted players the league has seen this decade. For a few consecutive years he was actually the best player in the league. So if Kevin Durant does live up to his hype, which is to dominate the league, than being T-Mac really isn’t a bad thing, at all. But they are two pretty different players.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kevin Durant is nothing like Tracy McGrady. He has the potential to be better, but at no point in mcgrady’s career has he played like Durant or Vice Versa

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I agree, that’s why I said they’re two pretty different players.

  • http://riccardo_walker@yahoo.com Blackrick

    KD is a top 10 player in the NBA right now,i don’t know what the hell people are thinking.BRoy is too,other then Kobe i wouldn’t take another 2guard over him as of now.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    no doubt teddy i just don’t even see the comparison. I mean they are/were both very young lanky wing players but Durant is more of a shooter who can create but dominately for himself. McGrady shot A LOT when he first came to the Magic but he also created for everyone else. He had a much better handle on creating for his teammates. Durant has a much better jumpshot. There are no defensive comparisons because there is barely any defense. I guess that works though

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq

    So according to this list, Kevin Durant will be MVP or something? Talk about multiverses.

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