Friday, October 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  174 responses

Top 50: Kobe Bryant, no. 2

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Ryan Jones / @thefarmerjones

…in which we discuss Kobe Bryant’s greatness, through the words and opinions and clever turns of phrase of men who never heard of Kobe Bryant, because they’re dead, and mostly hKobe Bryantave been since long before basketball was a thing that existed; but, as these were clearly smart and opinionated guys, and as some of the smarter and more opinionated guys I’ve met in my life watch basketball, this method of observing Kobe Bryant’s greatness seems right and just, if not in fact infallible.

The fact that their definitions of greatness differ wildly is beside the point. And at least half the fun.

And: Because no matter how tedious this might turn out, writing about the things Kobe has done and still can do on the basketball court would be infinitely more tedious. You know. You’ve seen it. There are no secrets. There is nothing left to know.

Plus, quotes from famous dead guys fill space.

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“It is true greatness to have in one the frailty of a man and the security of a god.” —Lucius Annaeus Seneca

What Lou Seems to be Saying: That we humans are defined by our faults and weaknesses, and that those among us who rise to places of prominence and accomplish significant things do so with an almost super-human confidence that defies the very faults and weaknesses that define us. This is as close as any of us will ever get to immortality.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 124%

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“Goodness does not consist in greatness, but greatness in goodness.” —Athenaeus

What Athenaeus Seems to be Saying: Admitting that he’s a socialist pansy is what.

Perhaps that’s harsh. Regardless, having watched Kobe adopt his focused-guy/meanie face en route to leading a team that was finally, indisputable his to the NBA title last season, it seems he has lifted one more tainted page from MJ’s book. And it worked, so why not? He’s got the offseason to be “good.” The season is for motherf*cking your way to the Larry O’Brien.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 17%

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“Great and good are seldom the same man.” —Winston Churchill

What Winston Seems to be Saying: Athenaeus was a chump.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: Exactly 50%

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“Great men never make bad use of their superiority. They see it and feel it and are not less modest.” —Jean Jacques Rousseau

What Jean Jacques Seems to be Saying: That he was Swiss, and as such, doesn’t know sh*t about the art of war or the game of basketball.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 8%

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“You will become as small as your controlling desire; as great as your dominant aspiration.” —James Allen

What Jim Seems to be Saying: Keep it in your pants, dummy.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 91%

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“The herd seek out the great, not for their sake, but for their influence; and the great welcome them out of vanity or need.” —Napoleon Bonaparte

What Napoleon Seems to be Saying: Riding or dying with a guy you’ve never met and probably never will, and who mostly likely wouldn’t give a sh*t about you if you did, is stupid. As such, this reflects more on the herd than the great one, and the individual in question can only be blamed so much. Especially if he’s got a Nike deal. Herds buy shoes, too.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 63% (Note: Accuracy as a Description of LeBron James’ Greatness: 64%)

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“No one ever became great by imitation.” —Samuel Johnson

What Sam Seems to be Saying: “Be Like Mike” was just a marketing slogan. You weren’t actually supposed to try.

That said, if you manage to pull it off…

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 2%

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“He is great who is what he is from nature, and who never reminds us of others.” —Ralph Waldo Emerson

What Ralph Seems to be Saying: Pretty much what Sam Johnson was saying a minute ago.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 1.9%

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“To be great is to be misunderstood.” —Ralph Waldo Emerson

What Ralph Seems to be Saying: I think I’m paraphrasing Russ (though he may have been paraphrasing me paraphrasing him first), but I don’t think Kobe even understands Kobe.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 439%

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“No great man ever complains of want of opportunity.” —Ralph Waldo Emerson

What Ralph Seems to be Saying: Nobody likes a whiner.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: –99%

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“A great thing can only be done by a great person. And they do it without effort.” —John Ruskin

What John Seems to be Saying: Assuming he means the great ones make it look easy…

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 87%

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“There is a great man who makes every man feel small. But the real great man is the man who makes every man feel great.” —Gilbert Keith Chesterton

What Gil Seems to be Saying: This is probably why LeBron got more votes than you.

Accuracy as a Description of Kobe Bryant’s Greatness: 99.8%

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The lesson? Greatness is hard to define. And so is Kobe.

Thanks for your time. Feedback, as always, is welcome.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • James the balla Posted: Oct.23 at 8:02 am
    First … but actually second because Kobe is the man!!! But we all knew he was second.

  • WB30 Posted: Oct.23 at 8:02 am
    f*ck the haters, LEBRON #1!!!

  • Calibro Posted: Oct.23 at 8:03 am
    That was dumb. Good call on Kobe as #2, though.

  • chris Posted: Oct.23 at 8:03 am
    Bullsh*t. Kobe Bryant took his team to the championship, he is above LeBron. Kobe has a ring this year, LeBron wouldnt even shake hands, because he’s a b***h! This list is retarded. Dwight Howard is above Chris Paul for a start. I guarentee you 99% of people would draft Dwight over Paul onto their team any day of the friggin week. The top 5 are wrong, end of story.

  • Nak Attack Posted: Oct.23 at 8:03 am
    let it begin

  • Kas Posted: Oct.23 at 8:04 am
    this is a travesty. no way lebron is better than kobe.

  • James the balla Posted: Oct.23 at 8:08 am
    I won’t lie. I was hoping for some big article, expliaining everything. And this is the same as last years. Short and not sweet. I don’t like the article. Eboy, BET, Anton, Tavoris, and the rest of the guys should be happy lol.

  • James the balla Posted: Oct.23 at 8:10 am
    man, i read this again… what a terrible article. Two years in a row Kobe got no justice from SLAM. This is garbage. I agree he should be 2-3. But this article is SH1T. I guarantee Bron has the best article ever written tomorrow.

  • Pedro Flanders Posted: Oct.23 at 8:12 am
    Terrible article, correct position.

  • Marcos Zapater Posted: Oct.23 at 8:13 am
    First! Kobe, 2nd? That’s debatable. 10 years from now, we can look back and say LBJ was better. But right now, Kobe is still superior.
    At this moment in his career, only Mike was clearly superior.
    Heck, if the Lakers go on a run, and Kobe adapts his game like Mike, he might even win more titles.
    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Kobe is better than MJ, just that it’s not over yet.

  • James the balla Posted: Oct.23 at 8:15 am
    I just wnat to point out how good Kobe’s footwork looks right now in the pre-season. Melo/jackson/martin … all having trouble doubling him in the the post, or trying to man him up on defense. He should have a very efficient year. You know… considering the article says NOTHING about ANYTHING.
    Ryan man, this is dissapointing to say the least. No effort put on Kobe’s part again.
    Talking about how Lebron is great.

  • Pedro Flanders Posted: Oct.23 at 8:15 am
    I actually can’t believe you wrote this, what a waste of an opportunity to say something different and purposeful, rather than unfunny and a waste of time.

  • Solon Posted: Oct.23 at 8:21 am
    Crap article-nothing to do with anything really…
    But, I agree. Lebron in #1 in the league next year. His numbers will be off the charts, he dominates on a regular basis, and will do more for the Cavs, (and the NBA), then Kobe will this season.
    I actually thought Kobe should be #3, but he did win it all, so gotta give him the props….

  • Hangtime Hec Posted: Oct.23 at 8:26 am
    The article at hand was pretty clever. I find it funny yet not surprising that Ryan Jones was picked to write about Kobe. Its actually hilarious.

  • sam chadwick Posted: Oct.23 at 8:29 am
    I like that article i love quotes and I thought “That we humans are defined by our faults and weaknesses, and that those among us who rise to places of prominence and accomplish significant things do so with an almost super-human confidence that defies the very faults and weaknesses that define us. This is as close as any of us will ever get to immortality.” was a better quote that all of those other ones given as examples.
    Great write up!

  • Hangtime Hec Posted: Oct.23 at 8:30 am
    Whats even funnier is that in the list of contributors Ryan Jones is not even listed. Its as if you left him off on purpose……

  • Ken Posted: Oct.23 at 8:31 am
    This was one of the worst write ups in the list. Beyond feeling lazy, it wasn’t even funny. I don’t even like Kobe, but I know he deserved a better piece than this.

  • grenners Posted: Oct.23 at 8:34 am
    can we now have the 50 best playaz?

  • Kas Posted: Oct.23 at 8:38 am
    what does the writer mean with “socialist pansy”? Like fu(k1n capitalist USA is doing so great. Way to be ignorant douche

  • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.23 at 8:43 am
    Whoever has problems with KOBE being ranked second in THIS LIST either has not followed the list at all or doesn’t have any idea about the principles of business and marketing (or is simply s….d).

  • ENDS Posted: Oct.23 at 8:45 am
    SLAM Has stock in LBJ inc. The Whole List was a Shamockery

  • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.23 at 8:52 am
    TOP-10 PLAYERS IN THE W*RLD.(in 4 different levels)
    1)KOBE
    2)DIRK
    MANU
    DERON
    PAU
    3)WADE
    DURANT
    SISKAUSKAS
    DUNCAN
    4)LEBRON

  • Eboy Posted: Oct.23 at 8:55 am
    Brilliant.

  • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.23 at 8:57 am
    @Eboy……: thanks.

  • rinspeed Posted: Oct.23 at 9:00 am
    1. Kobe
    2. Bron
    3. Wade You know that’s how it is. This article is just a disrespect to Kobe.

  • Throwsticks Posted: Oct.23 at 9:08 am
    Kobe is obviously the more skilled, BUT, Lebron affects the game more, either by rebounding, gettign his team involved, or getting the opposing team into foul trouble. Kobe is a better scorer, but Lebron has him beat everywhere else. I’m a Laker fan by the way, and I’m only saying what I see.

  • james Posted: Oct.23 at 9:24 am
    bore off
    when lebron actually wins something then he can be #1. lets just add 3 or 4 players a year to his already amazing squad and see how little they can win again.
    this is a fucking joke
    everyone needs to get off lebrons dick.
    hes the second best. im a celtics fan and i will say any day that kobe is the best player in the l.
    hes virtually unguardable and troubles defenders like no other.
    lebron just muscles his way to the hoop and gets fouled or shoots an open jumper.
    lebron is a better athlete. hes a specimen, that is of no doubt. but kobe bryant is a better basketball player.
    if i could pick one of these two to have on a team i would have kobe all day, wiser, quicker, smarter, better shooting, better passing (when needed. doesnt pass on game winners etc, like lebron does) more winning. kobe makes his team mates better. lebron makes his team mates his friends. thats all nice and lovely. but at the end of the day id rather win and be an ass like kobe, then loose whilst being all nice and jokey like lebron (and then be an ass over)
    all im going to say is look what happens this season
    the celtics will win another c, but thats a given.
    kobe will get further than lebron this season, and lebron has a better team, and the conferences are pretty much the same once the playoffs start. this has slightly annoyed me.

  • jk_light Posted: Oct.23 at 9:25 am
    I’m fine with the ranking but the article is so weak. Or better said, the owrk of Farmer Jones here is so weak. He is not even trying and it seems like SLAM wants to provoke people on here by giving the Kobe Write-Up to Mr.Jones again while he is comming up with this one. Why don’t you just give it to someone who doesn’t need to be a Kobe Fan like Myles, but to a guy that appreciates great players.

  • tavoris Posted: Oct.23 at 9:27 am
    James…1-3 are interchangeable…can’t really say there is a strong argument against Wade, Kobe, or Lebron being #1. For the record, I think Kobe Bryant is the best player in basketball, has been the best player in basketball for the last 4 or 5 seasons, and will continue to be the best player in basketball for 2 or 3 more seasons.

  • NUPE Posted: Oct.23 at 9:29 am
    Beacuse of Kobe’s lack of leadership (fish is the leader of the team that Kobe is the best player on), I still would have put Wade #2 and Kobe #3. But overall, can’t argue too much here. The quote that I liked here was “There is a great man who makes every man feel small. But the real great man is the man who makes every man feel great.” —Gilbert Keith Chesterton. That’s how I see Kobe -v- Lebron. Kobe is a great player, no doubt and with 3 other top 50 players Kobe likely will get another ring. Lebron make the Cavs contenders and has done so the past few years with no supporting cast. Overall good write up, but wish it said more about Kobe’s game and presence on the floor.

  • Reflex Posted: Oct.23 at 9:29 am
    don’t necessarily disagree with the ranking but as per last year, and as James alluded, the article was soft. So booo! with that regard

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 9:36 am
    This was hilarious. Thanks, Ryan. I actually thought that Myles’s team preview as the Kobe write up at first before I had coffee this morning. HA!

  • ben osborne Posted: Oct.23 at 9:40 am
    I’d like to think my opinion counts for a little around here. And my opinion of this piece? Tremendously creative, funny and insightful. There are probably 5000 websites out there that could break down Kobe’s game (including this site on many days; just click Kobe’s ‘tag’ on the right-hand side of the page to view all we’ve done on him in the last year-plus. There is, however, only one website that could deliver what Ryan just did. Thanks for reading.

  • D.R.23. 21. Posted: Oct.23 at 9:54 am
    To me KOBE is still the best player in the league lebron might be better later on but who knows what can happen remember(g.hill) and what else does kobe have to do to be #1 win an m.v.p. did that, scoring title did that, win a chip without shaq did that …and again lebron is a beast but kobe is the best in the league

  • kobesbestfriend Posted: Oct.23 at 9:58 am
    we’ll see in june who is #1…if Lebron is better than Kobe then Bush was better than Obama!!!im canceling my SLAM subscription now!!!

  • tavoris Posted: Oct.23 at 10:01 am
    ben…u r spot on. We ALL know Kobe’s game…and the fact that his only weaknesses are mental.

  • Gerard Himself Posted: Oct.23 at 10:04 am
    Apparently, I’m not getting Ryan Jones’ sense of humor. After writing the most embarrassing and uninspired article ever on SLAMonline last season, which he linked in this article, he again chose to write a little piece that’s also…. well, mediocre at best.
    Yes, you got a lot of comments on your article last year, was that why you did it? You had 88 comments yourself, quoting a comedian and never explaining WHY you chose to write such a lame piece. Great way to connect with the loyal fans of the site.
    And then this year… man, you must really hate lists, don’t you? Don’t get me wrong, sure, I enjoy your articles most of the time, but I just don’t get what you’re doing with the Kobe pieces this season and last season. When the top 10 of this list arrived, I couldn’t care less where you guys all ranked the players, it’s just fun to read it. All I thought was: will Farmer Jones’ article be as bad this year as it was last year, and you didn’t disappoint. I tip my hat to you sir, can’t wait til next year.

  • Izzo Posted: Oct.23 at 10:27 am
    “I think Pringles original intention was to make tennis balls… but on the day the rubber was supposed to show up a truckload of potatoes came. Pringles is a laid-back company, so they just said, “F*ck it, cut em up!”

  • Orlando Green Posted: Oct.23 at 10:34 am
    I love quotes, but this article was stupid. Also, Lebron will have better stats than Kobe this year, however, he will not do as much on the bball court because Mr. Bryant will finish the season with 5 rings. When he hangs up the sneakers, at the end of his career, intelligent bball people, hence no kobe-haters, will be able to have a conversation on why Kobe was better than MJ. I will be leading that debate.

  • Shelton Posted: Oct.23 at 10:37 am
    Article is pretty disrespectful…we look to much into stats to determine greatness. Kobe doesn’t have a single weakness while Lebron has quite a few.

  • niQ Posted: Oct.23 at 10:41 am
    And thus, all hell breaks loose.

  • SAB Posted: Oct.23 at 10:52 am
    swap LeBron and Kobe, the Lakers become a better team… it’s that simple

  • SAB Posted: Oct.23 at 10:56 am
    and as per yesterday, i think it takes unlikely circumstances for Kobe to actually win the MVP. no doubt he’s the Alpha Dog on the best team, but then, that’s cos the Lakers management have done a better job than the Cavs or the Heat’s. that’s not Kobe’s fault, of course, but he’d have to do something spectacular with that team to actually be voted MVP. like, win 70 games. or lead them to a good playoff seed with Pau and/or Odom out injured for long parts of the season…

  • SAB Posted: Oct.23 at 10:58 am
    …and finally. while i see Ben’s point, i’m with “the masses” here – that article was awful. it was a “neat” idea with half-assed execution. after the first couple of quotes, there were no attempts at explanations, just lame attempts at humor. very disappointing.

  • Joey E. Posted: Oct.23 at 10:59 am
    Bron’s not a triangle player though. I dont think swapping them would really make the Lakers a better player. Totally think Bron’s no. 1 though. I’m sick of the rings argument. if you’re good you’re good, damn

  • Joey E. Posted: Oct.23 at 10:59 am
    *better team, not better player

  • namik Posted: Oct.23 at 11:01 am
    Ryan admits Kobe’s greatness, even goes as far as to say that Kobe has managed to actually be like Mike, even admits that Kobe carried his team last year a fact which many people on here dispute and ends it by saying LeBron is a better individual player right now. I’m confused, what has he said that was so wrong and disrespectful? We all know he’s not a Kobe fan which is probably why he got to write this. And we all know he likes to mess around with the Laker “faithful”, which is exactly what this is. Either way, this was creative and funny. And yeah, “I’m a Lakers fan”

  • TADOne Posted: Oct.23 at 11:02 am
    Ryan is my hero.

  • Simon S.Y Lawy Posted: Oct.23 at 11:10 am
    I don’t wanna say anything, just watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyKgaeAoa-g&feature=related

  • Jake Posted: Oct.23 at 11:11 am
    Fail.Kobe#1.

  • AlbertBarr Posted: Oct.23 at 11:12 am
    I loved the article. Clever, Funny(apparently most people here don’t have a very good sense of humor today), made some subtle points about Kobe. And apparently the haters are to scared to say he belongs at #1 so they just pick on Farmer Jones instead.

  • GHOST (of DUANE CAUSWELL) Posted: Oct.23 at 11:19 am
    YOU JUST GAVE KOBE REASON TO DROP 100 POINTS THIS YEAR

  • k3v1n3o5 Posted: Oct.23 at 11:19 am
    1.Kobe 2.Wade 3.LeBron……..Hardest guy to cover=Kobe,Guy you want with the ball at the end=Kobe.Im a Heat fan,but Kobe is STILL the best in the game.LeBron on the Lakers wins a championship?True,but so would Wade.You cant blame Kobe for the Lakers front office getting him good talent,thats what theyre supposed to do.If Kobe had LeBron’s team as currently assembled,they would make it to the Finals,no doubt.And a healthy Wade(2004,2005,2006,last years Wade)would do the same,so enough with this”Oh,but if LeBron were on the Lakers” crap.

  • Allenp Posted: Oct.23 at 11:20 am
    I thought this was an interesting concept for an article and pretty well executed.
    I’m curious about whether Ryan just has quotes about greatness rattling around in his head, or if just used a Google search?
    Also, I would have liked a little fuller explanation for some of the quotes, but for the most part I enjoyed the execution.

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 11:24 am
    You know what boggles my mind about Kobe’s critics? When Kobe was avg. 40 for months at a time after Shaq left all you heard was, “He doesn’t make his teammates better!” or “He’s a selfish prick ball hog!” while he absolutely had to do that in order to drag his team into the playoffs. Now that he has good teammates around him and picks his spots from game to game the same people are acting like he can’t do it anymore. Sure he doesn’t quiet have those otherworldly hops that he had in his early and mid-twenties but the speed is still there, and the handles, jumper, and post game have only gotten better with age. It’s like Kobe has evolved into everything that everyone said he couldn’t become earlier in his career so now he’s discredited because his team is better. Did MJ get worse when the Bulls added Rodman? Did Hakeem fall off when he was reunited with Drexler? And do you guys remember way back when Kevin Garnett finally got decent teammates by heading to Boston? He just turned into a shell of his former self, didn’t he? The bottom line is that Kobe has overcome ever single obstacle that has ever been set in front of him and now he’s zeroing in on the only won left, overall ring count. So Kobe haters, do it while you still can, because in a few more years you’ll probably look even more ignorant than you do now.

  • Wayno Posted: Oct.23 at 11:24 am
    KOBE OVER AI!?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!?!

  • Simon S.Y Lawy Posted: Oct.23 at 11:26 am
    No matter you’re Kobe’s fan or queen’s fan, enjoy the 10 minutes youtube video …

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 11:26 am
    “every single obstacle”

  • karma Posted: Oct.23 at 11:28 am
    I’m sick of hearing this over gush of praise about Lebron. The dude cannot hit a mid range jumper to save his life, has terrible footwork, and annoints HIMSELF as the greatest in public. I understand he’s a great player, and he deserves spot 1 or 2, but at the same time, why is there no columnist on SLAM or anywhere else that has the balls to CRITICISZE the guy? Why are you so afraid to go against popular culture? Lebron’s entire career has been built on hype…even now, he’s already been given the MVP for next year without considering what anyone else is going to accomplish. It’s ridiculous. Enough of this “swap Lebron for Kobe” bullshit. That’s like saying if you had given 2006 Kobe the Suns team, he woulda been the MVP! IT DIDN’T HAPPEN. I could hypothesize all day, its not going to happen. Effin tools.

  • karma Posted: Oct.23 at 11:29 am
    I’m sick of hearing this over gush of praise about Lebron. The dude cannot hit a mid range jumper to save his life, has terrible footwork, and annoints HIMSELF as the greatest in public. I understand he’s a great player, and he deserves spot 1 or 2, but at the same time, why is there no columnist on SLAM or anywhere else that has the balls to CRITICISZE the guy? Why are you so afraid to go against popular culture? Lebron’s entire career has been built on hype…even now, he’s already been given the MVP for next year without considering what anyone else is going to accomplish. It’s ridiculous. Enough of this “swap Lebron for Kobe” bullsh*t. That’s like saying if you had given 2006 Kobe the Suns team, he woulda been the MVP! IT DIDN’T HAPPEN. I could hypothesize all day, its not going to happen. Effin tools.

  • jumpman3224 Posted: Oct.23 at 11:31 am
    B. Long totally agree! It’s like no matter what he is doing on the court somehow (in his haters’ minds) it is tainted. First because he was “too much of a ball hog, didn’t make his teammates better.” And now because “his team is too good.” What do people want from the guy?

  • Allenp Posted: Oct.23 at 11:32 am
    Everybody getting all irate should probably check out that quote by Napoleon again.

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 11:34 am
    “Won” should be “one” in my previous post. Fraudian slip. Sorry.

  • Simon S.Y Lawy Posted: Oct.23 at 11:41 am
    @jumpman3224, it’s because he is the BEST, it’s because people knew ‘queen travel crappy james’ can’t do what what they want em to do.

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 11:41 am
    If they ever put a statue of Kobe in front of the Staples Center (they will) It should have a sign underneath it saying “Kobe Bryant-Took a team to the playoffs with Smush Parker as the starting point guard.”. That pretty much says it all, doesn’t it?

  • TADOne Posted: Oct.23 at 11:48 am
    He is still a douche. I saw highlights from last nights preseason game against the Nuggets and Kobe is still doing that stupid ‘jaw jutting’ after making a play. Regardless of whether you like like him or don’t, that sh*t is stupid and annoying.

  • TADOne Posted: Oct.23 at 11:49 am
    Ok, now I can start my day :-)

  • The Seed Posted: Oct.23 at 11:50 am
    This article to me is lame. Kobe Haters will like this article, because it does not focus on Kobe’s game which right now getting to the level of MJ. Lets not talk about Kobe’s game, but quotes about dead men, who thought they were smart. WOW. Kobe deserves a better article. SLAM, can I write the Kobe article for the next top 50, because Kobe is the PLAYER OF THE DECADE, over Shaq, and Tim and Is only behind TIGER world wide and he gets quotes. Lets talk about Kobe’s leadership last season to his fourth title and number one to some of yall dudes, but the last title KObe went off, should have been Finals MVP, with Shaq that year, but sill lets talk about Kobe’s moves, the fake spin shot, the wet jumper or post and added post moves or lets talk abotu Kobe’s desire to be the best basketball player ever, something Lebron doesn’t have, lets talk about Kobe’s willingness to let his stats drop so they can win a title, Lets talk about how Kobe, has matured into a complete basketball player, but he was already that, just had scrubs and still went to playoffs, Lets talk about Kobe if winning two more titles will be top 5. KOBE for the real MVP trophy, because we get sports writers who are fans now, who vote based off teammates they don’t have—–EXAMPLE Steve Nash-two time MVP. KOBE is still Doing Work, so write about his Work.

  • Michael Posted: Oct.23 at 11:51 am
    i am completely an utterly shocked Eboy thought it was brilliant. he never usually kisses ryan’s ass

  • Eboy Posted: Oct.23 at 11:55 am
    Shh…..Michael….it will be our secret!

  • SAB Posted: Oct.23 at 12:03 pm
    The Seed – let’s talk about fact – “just had scrubs and still went to playoffs” – 2005 missed – 2006, 2007, out 1st round – he was 27, 28, 29 years old – can you imagine LeBron ever missing the playoffs at 27-29 years old? or going out in the 1st round? easy answer here – it won’t happen. i know i know, you have a litany of excuses….

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 12:09 pm
    See Tad, I can respect that. I didn’t see him doing the jaw thing last night, but maybe he did. Either way the Lakers dismantled the Nugs with Pau and Bynum in street clothes. If you don’t like Kobe because of his personality, that’s cool. I’ll be the first to admit that he comes off as a huge prick sometimes, but don’t try to punch holes in the guys game because you don’t like him.

  • The Seed Posted: Oct.23 at 12:11 pm
    SAB, the 2005 season I think Kobe got hurt, but his starting five had Walton, Kwame, Odom and Smush, be serious dude and Lebron plays in the least divison. Remember when Lebron came int he league the east sucked, now they are better to me. You play with scrubs in the gym and tell me if you win games. Their is no I in TEAM cat. 06 and 07 yes got bounced in first round, but you NEED TEAMMATES, now HE GOT SOME, come on cat, also we he got teammates see what happend, see yall dudes gave Lebron an excuse last year about him getting bounced by Magic, it was his fault, he stop setting up teammates, went one on four and depended on his weak jumper. SAB no excuses but facts, Lebron team underachieved and still got bounced. This is facts. Kobe won last year 4 rings. Lebron got bounced like Kobe did in 06, 07, 08, so what is the difference none, cat.

  • UnRel Posted: Oct.23 at 12:16 pm
    @SAB.. that’s called rebuilding.. but it’s pretty damn amazing how he can miss the playoffs, lose in the first round twice.. then get back to back finals.. winning one.. it took him 5 years.. to take a lottery team to the chip..

  • Z Posted: Oct.23 at 12:22 pm
    …or Pau Gasol in a gift basket for Kwame Brown. Nobody wins alone. If Pau doesn’t come to LA, LA doesn’t win last year.

  • JE Posted: Oct.23 at 12:22 pm
    I enjoyed the article. And Simon, that’s probably the best Kobe youtube video I’ve seen.

  • Bryan Posted: Oct.23 at 12:26 pm
    Co sign everything B long.

  • Anton Posted: Oct.23 at 12:28 pm
    If only he didn’t cum on that one obstacle

  • MV7 Posted: Oct.23 at 12:32 pm
    This is a travesty, plain and simple. There is nothing this guy can’t do on a basketball court. I’d be willing to bet plenty that if you polled the NBA’s coaches on who they fear more in the playoffs, its without a doubt number 24.

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 12:41 pm
    I wish Comedy Central would give Anton a show already.

  • Elias Posted: Oct.23 at 12:41 pm
    I don’t remember what defined the players rank on this list, but i’m pretty sure it was either who is better than who this year or who will have the best year as an individual. Either way the list’s top 3 is wrong. If the rank is defined by skill, the number 1 should be Kobe and 2. Wade. If it’s defined by individual stats the nuber one should be Wade, and nuber 2 Lebron or CP3.

  • Joe Posted: Oct.23 at 12:47 pm
    This was actually pretty interesting.

  • The Seed Posted: Oct.23 at 12:50 pm
    Anton, that thing that got Kobe thrown under the bus, to me was good for the dude, he had to work his way back up in this _____ driven world with people who believe everything as facts, when Big Ben gets a pass, Rick Pitno and others, list too long. So yes he did an obstacle, but a number change came out of it, Shaq leaving, the 81 point game, 35 ppg average, highlights against Suns and now a ring. I say he worked his way up all the way.

  • Antwonomous Posted: Oct.23 at 1:05 pm
    Why couldn’t Ryan just give him a legit piece? You guys did this a year or two ago, too, when he was number one.

  • LA Huey Posted: Oct.23 at 1:13 pm
    Anton…so rude. don’t ever change.

  • jbn74sb Posted: Oct.23 at 1:15 pm
    Until he is dethroned, Kobe is The Real King.

  • LA Huey Posted: Oct.23 at 1:27 pm
    lbj over kobe makes sense according to SLAM’s criteria. lbj’s cast (including his coach) and their shortcomings will force lebron to have a greater output than kobe this season. as far as what both can do for their teams, it’s a toss up. but lbj gets the edge on this list based on criteria.

  • jbn74sb Posted: Oct.23 at 1:30 pm
    The Farmer was one of those nerdy kids in english class that the teacher liked. He was friends with all the girls, but never got any +ss and sat around and read literature all day.

  • Double J Posted: Oct.23 at 1:34 pm
    cosign jbn74sb: kobe is the ish

  • albie1kenobi Posted: Oct.23 at 2:01 pm
    Props to Ryan for this article. This must have taken quite a bit of thought and work to put this together. It highlights the many different facets/views of Kobe. One actually needs to digest the quotes and think about how those apply to Kobe for this article to make sense. it took me about at least half way through the article to understand it.
    For a straight forward analysis of Kobe’s game/impact, The Seed’s 11:50 comment is actually a really good.

  • David N. Posted: Oct.23 at 2:02 pm
    I feel bad for you Ryan Jones, I mean, you did what was expected and you said a whole lot, but in turn said nothing at all. I only hope that the next time you write about Kobe Bryant being the second best basketball player in the world (based on last years performance) you would remind yourself that he won the championship..a championship…and not just a MVP trophy which was overshadowed by an embarrasing 4-1 Eastern Conference exit (Lebron James), were talking a championship. And of course, now your thinking, “Kobe’s team is stacked blah blah blah and Lebron didnt have a team.” Oh how quickly we forget how that the Cleveland Cavaliers were the 2008-2009 regular season champs.

  • Jhaney Posted: Oct.23 at 2:19 pm
    Actually this is good. All this does is give Kobe(the real #1)somthing to really be motivated about. He was already on his way to number 5, but now he’s going kill again this season. Look for 70 plus victories and a regular season and finals MVP. Lakers over Celtics in 7.

  • ab_40 Posted: Oct.23 at 2:24 pm
    I think it was a nice article with the quotes ‘n all. and his athletiscism and size are degressing. on skills alone he is above lebron. on killer instinct as well. on feel for the game… not so much because it is still a team game and if kobe played with 4 more kobe’s he’d still have a vocie in the back of his head say. I can do this better then all of them. it’s a team game. kobe finaly understands and he has a great team with him who have to believe in him now since he led them to the promised land… who I’d rather have in the final three minutes? kobe… the rest of the game? LeBron. D wade is nice but I’d take dwight over him 6 out of 7 days of the week

  • Bruno Posted: Oct.23 at 2:31 pm
    f@ck all this … Kobe is #1
    last year all of you were in lebron nuts and what happened in the playoffs
    this year Kobe’s gonna win it all again

  • albie1kenobi Posted: Oct.23 at 2:35 pm
    i love the fact that some people think the placement of Kobe on this list gives him more fire for this season. i have a hard time imagining Kobe reading this writeup and said “fcuk Ryan Jones. I’mma drop 100 points in a game this year to prove him wrong!”
    like allenp said, go read that Napoleon quote again.

  • Enigmatic Posted: Oct.23 at 2:42 pm
    KOBE > LEBRON!!!!

  • Ronald Posted: Oct.23 at 2:44 pm
    @albie1kenobi: Normally I would agree with you on a point like that. But we all know Kobe is neurotic and reads everything. That guy is weird like that.

  • Kelly Posted: Oct.23 at 2:57 pm
    I like Lebron also; but I don’t think he can be considered better than Kobe until he at least win a championship. The only thing he can do better than Kobe is Jump higher and dunk with more power (but that’s to be expected – he’s taller and stronger); but Kobe, on the other hand, is poetry in motion.

  • christian wells Posted: Oct.23 at 3:26 pm
    i liked the article mostly bcuz of the quotes it’s thought provoking.now as 4 kobe whatevr his middle name is bryant i’d rather hv lebron any day ovr kobe ppl give me this he passes up big shots in clutch situations,the guy believes in his teammates no matter how crappy they r,plus at the end of a close game and ur the man y not pass 2 throw off the D,plus success breeds confidence if one lbj’s lesser teammates hit a gw next time around if ur n that situation again hey u done it b4 there’s no doubt lebron is the king bcuz he doesn’t belittle or put down his teammates,4 one bcuz he knows he has 2 count on these guys for 82plus games a season …

  • tavoris Posted: Oct.23 at 3:27 pm
    Brad, you think they’ll erect a ststue for Kobe? before Majic, Elgin, Jerry, or Kareem? naaaahhhhh

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 3:32 pm
    They already got one for Magic. I’m not saying it’s right, but he’s the closest thing to MJ L.A. will ever have to call its own and he’ll be a Laker for life so…yeah its happening.

  • Slam Reader Posted: Oct.23 at 3:33 pm
    Are you nuts! Kobe Bryant supposed to be number 1!!!

  • Slam Reader Posted: Oct.23 at 3:56 pm
    How can all of you not understand that Kobe Bryant is the greatest human being playing basketball just because he made himself the player he is at the moment, that is completely his accomplishment and anybody else’s!!!
    But your place number one (I don’t even wanna call his name, coz this is all hilarious, I mean the way it’s now with that man being number one) is unfairly given because Lebron was just born that way and this is not his merit, he is just a nature freak!!!

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.23 at 3:57 pm
    @ Brad Long: Yeah, Kobe’s took the Lakers to the playoffs with Smush Parker. And I do think he’s kind of better than LeBron.
    But LeBron took the Cavaliers to the FINALS by himself, with Daniel Gibson and Damon Jones as his point guards.

  • Slam Reader Posted: Oct.23 at 4:00 pm
    f@ck all this … Kobe is #1

  • Slam Reader Posted: Oct.23 at 4:01 pm
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  • Slam Reader Posted: Oct.23 at 4:02 pm
    Nobody is better than Kobe!!!
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  • Slam Reader Posted: Oct.23 at 4:02 pm
    Nobody is better than Kobe!!!

  • theman Posted: Oct.23 at 4:06 pm
    ha great spot for him lebron deserves it this year

  • Slam Reader Posted: Oct.23 at 4:13 pm
    Ryan is stupid!!!!

  • Brad Long Posted: Oct.23 at 4:14 pm
    I think Slam Reader is secretly Ryan Jones, just trying to get his comment number up.

  • kadavour Posted: Oct.23 at 4:38 pm
    aw man, i don’t know where to start. The quotes were great. Didn’t get the argument about how Kob’s performance last year projected him as the number 2 man this year though. guess because it didn’t happen. most of these quotes were about Kobe the person, not Kobe the baller. If we learned anything at all this week, its that much of the NBA’s greats are AS$HOLES, and i don’t think Kobe will ever match the likes of Magic, Bird, Isaiah, and Jordan in those respects. Kobe the baller’s team won less regular season games than LeBron’s team. However, Kobe’s team managed to beat same the team (Orlando Magic) that beat LeBron’s team in the playoffs by the same margin (4-1). People don’t realize how much LeBron is like AI. He commanded the ball more than MAGIC did in the playoffs, as such, his skills don’t accommodate other primary scorers, ESPECIALLY since he doesn’t have a mid-range game. Tell me this, put Bron on the Lakers with Bynum and Pau, and you face overloaded zones like the ones Thibodeau and company are going to throw at you, where does the mid-range threat that keeps those defenses honest come from?

  • albie1kenobi Posted: Oct.23 at 4:43 pm
    the more i think about it, the more i think it’s appropriate that Ryan wrote this article. i see so many comments bashing this article as terrible and lazy, when in fact it takes much research and thoughts to put a piece like this together. maybe one doesn’t appreciate this style of journalism, but people hate because they don’t understand, which is exactly the same way Kobe is being treated.

  • b Posted: Oct.23 at 5:09 pm
    Great spot for him

  • SAB Posted: Oct.23 at 5:55 pm
    i dunno albie, it reads like it too him 20 minutes – google “greatness”, hash it together, get bored after first two and just write one sentence witticisms thereafter… i don’t see us getting 1000+ comments this time… ego not soothed… poor Farmer Jones…

  • Shem Posted: Oct.23 at 5:57 pm
    Im done with SLAM

  • Ryan Jones Sucks Posted: Oct.23 at 6:34 pm
    i’d be okay with kobe being #2 if there were reasons/explanations for him being at this ranking. however, this article failed to do so. Ryan Jones, THIS ARTICLE SUCKS. SOMEONE FIRE THIS PATHETIC WRITER

  • Slam Reader Posted: Oct.23 at 6:47 pm
    I’m done with SLAM either!!!

  • Hursty Posted: Oct.23 at 7:24 pm
    That was brilliant.
    I loved Jones’ subtle “keep it in your pants” line.
    That just made it.
    Awesome.

  • Outlaw Posted: Oct.23 at 7:43 pm
    SLAM has gone retarded
    Kobe >>>>> LeBron
    LeBron is overrated

  • max Posted: Oct.23 at 8:17 pm
    @albie1kenobi first i thought you were joking when you said it takes a lot of time to write an article like this, but you seem to actually be serious…
    It takes like 30-45min to write an article like this. Just google greatness + quotes and kind of analyze (“kind of” as only quotes 1 and 2 are analyzed) the quotes or write uncreative-meant-to-be-funny stuff under them.
    So dont give me the “brilliant”, “smart, “creative”, “funny” for this article, however i do think jones meant to write the article the way it is (quality and everything) to mock exactly those people who are now outraged by how bad this article is. The last lines kind of gives it away.

  • Jrooks Posted: Oct.24 at 12:11 am
    Kobe 1

  • Omnixyience (Philippines) Posted: Oct.24 at 12:11 am
    This should be one of the worst articles I’v ever red…. it’s so awful the lines, the meaning even the position! WTF! what gives you the right to put Lebron above Kobe? does Lebron have rings? I can go all day arguing about this.. If you talk and arguing is because Lebron has higher stats, is that all you can do? all you think and say is “this is all about stats”. It’s stupidity, stupid article, stupid author!

  • kevin moore Posted: Oct.24 at 12:42 am
    kobe 1 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO kobe is 1

  • Vish Posted: Oct.24 at 1:51 am
    this article was lazy and garbage. on the other hand, you just gave Kobe even more fire to win it all. Thanks SLAM.. btw, until Lebron wins anything, he will never be #1. Sorry.

  • josh Posted: Oct.24 at 2:21 am
    kobe should be number 3… Wade, Lebron and then Kobe. These articles are about what they are predicting that they do this year right? so kobes “rings” argument has no bearing in the placement… they dont mean sh!t when talking about what happens this year. Obviously many Laker fa gs .. i mean fans, dont get that. Oh yah, it was pretty entertaining watching the melo-less thugs beat LA in LA. I really dont like either team since I am a Blazer fan, so I didnt no which team to cheer for, but you cant go wrong cheering against the lakers. Laker fa gs, shoot.. i mean fans, better hope gasol does not have continuing injury problems throughout the season. Without Gasol, Lakers drop quite a few spots in the west.

  • Tim Posted: Oct.24 at 4:42 am
    Kobe will never get the respect he deserves. Kobe>Lebron. 4 rings. Count em.

  • Lazarus Posted: Oct.24 at 4:44 am
    NO DWAYNE WADE, CHRIS PAUL AND DWIGHT HOWARD! are all better than kobe

  • intlong Posted: Oct.24 at 6:02 am
    “This is probably why LeBron got more votes than you” Are you kidding me ?john,have a look at Kwame Brown ,The Grim Reaper,Trevor Ariza and Paul Gasol…look their perfomance at lakers and other teams.How can you say that LeBron is better than Kobe?!

  • intlong Posted: Oct.24 at 6:07 am
    john,have a look at Kwame Brown ,The Grim Reaper,Trevor Ariza and Paul Gasol…look their perfomance at lakers and other teams.Are you joking?This is probably “why LeBron got more votes than you”s.How can you say that LeBron is better than Kobe?!

  • alfonsia Posted: Oct.24 at 9:22 am
    u know kobes not doing another slam cover.

  • alfonsia Posted: Oct.24 at 9:40 am
    u know kobes not doing another slam cover or article right?

  • andy Posted: Oct.24 at 10:21 am
    very funny, thoughtful article + a Mitch Hedberg joke hidden amongst the tiresome comments = me happy. thanks SLAM (and Izzo)

  • theo Posted: Oct.24 at 12:35 pm
    quotes? thats all? wow for a player with 4 rings, u just write quotes? and i understand that this is just the 09-10 season but still kobe is the best leader in the nba. lebrons numbers are going a bit down with shaq-a-claus

  • Nick Posted: Oct.24 at 12:41 pm
    What is this Lebron love crap, he hasn’t accomplished anything in the league. Kobe has four rings, and is 50x more skilled the LBJ, this is BS

  • Real ballers know Posted: Oct.24 at 2:36 pm
    wow kobe #2? not a very intelligent position for the man who can do anything on the basketball court. well whatever, kobe will see this as a challenge and play even better next season

  • Garett Posted: Oct.24 at 3:56 pm
    Bill Simmons should have wrote this piece

  • Raj Posted: Oct.24 at 4:43 pm
    Its quite clear Kobe is #1 and has been since about 2000. Just like Steve Nash winning 2 MVPs when Kobe deserved it, Lebron is riding his athleticism coupled with media hype to #1 on many rankings. LBJ is an incredible athlete with MEDIOCRE skills, his dribbling and shooting are limited and were EXPOSED by the Magic. His defense consists of cherry picking, and relying on the rest of the team to do the work. Kobe is a refined fine wine, getting better ever year, adding more moves and skills. LBJ still doesn’t have the footwork, shooting, or D of a 21 year old Kobe, let alone 31 year old Mamba. Its says here that Kobe is #1 followed by DWade .. then who cares, this article alone was a complete embarrassment to SLAM with its fluff and lack of effort. Quotes? Really? Did you get paid for this?

  • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.24 at 5:11 pm
    @RAJ…….:you write “with MEDIOCRE skills”. Are you drunk…?

  • The Seed Posted: Oct.24 at 7:43 pm
    RAJ, your comment sounds like mines: This article to me is lame. Kobe Haters will like this article, because it does not focus on Kobe’s game which right now getting to the level of MJ. Lets not talk about Kobe’s game, but quotes about dead men, who thought they were smart. WOW. Kobe deserves a better article. SLAM, can I write the Kobe article for the next top 50, because Kobe is the PLAYER OF THE DECADE, over Shaq, and Tim and Is only behind TIGER world wide and he gets quotes. Lets talk about Kobe’s leadership last season to his fourth title and number one to some of yall dudes, but the last title KObe went off, should have been Finals MVP, with Shaq that year, but sill lets talk about Kobe’s moves, the fake spin shot, the wet jumper or post and added post moves or lets talk abotu Kobe’s desire to be the best basketball player ever, something Lebron doesn’t have, lets talk about Kobe’s willingness to let his stats drop so they can win a title, Lets talk about how Kobe, has matured into a complete basketball player, but he was already that, just had scrubs and still went to playoffs, Lets talk about Kobe if winning two more titles will be top 5. KOBE for the real MVP trophy, because we get sports writers who are fans now, who vote based off teammates they don’t have—–EXAMPLE Steve Nash-two time MVP. KOBE is still Doing Work, so write about his Work. The real King who has the right hardware.

  • Jayceon Posted: Oct.24 at 8:43 pm
    f**k dem both MICHAEL JORDAN betta den all these wack players these days

  • Celtic Knight Posted: Oct.24 at 10:45 pm
    People like Seed are totally delusional or just very ignorant to NBA Legends and their history and I would have to agree with Jay. Jordan, Magic, and Bird are untouchable by all the players that came after them. Just looking at the statistics and championships… Do I need to say more?… No I didn’t think so. :/

  • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.25 at 5:23 am
    The Seed…….:1) you write “quotes about dead men, who thought they were smart” . They didn’t “thought”,many of them are some of the greatest minds of all time, influencing mine and yours everyday life in much more ways than M.J. or any today pol*tic*an will ever succeed to do so…
    2) “Is only behind TIGER world wide ” there are at least 5 soccer players EASILY M-U-C-H M-O-R-E popular world wide than Tiger in the last decade. And that is only soccer……this was one of the most comic-blindsighted statements i’ve read in a while…..i mean, you don’t even have to get out of your room to understand this, just take a look at world press to see who is on everydays front pages for the last 10 years (Ronaldo, Messi, Beckham,Kaka,Zindan,Bolt,Schumacher,etc…)

  • don Posted: Oct.25 at 4:16 pm
    #1 lebron.

  • The Seed Posted: Oct.25 at 6:45 pm
    Celtic Knight your stupid, Larry and Magic played on stack teams, MJ did the most with less, Jordan is the only untouchable, Even Magic said Kobe is close to the level of Jordan and guess who Larry Bird favorite player is Kobe Bryant yes and Larry had the most help with at least two of his teammates avearging close to 20 or more points get real dude. PLus Larry numbers are similar to Kobes, Kobe plays different positions Larry just played with better scorers and had more rebounds. Larry and players go look and didn’t Larry only win 4. Magic won 5. Ok and Magic played with Worthy, Kareem, Scott and many more. Larry had Mchale, Johnson, Parish, Ainge and more. Dude Kobe played with way lesser talent than that. Kobe has 4 and will end with 6 titles to me. Did you cat will watch people defintely move Bird and Magic out the way.

  • KEVIN45 Posted: Oct.25 at 6:51 pm
    KOBE GETS RINGS! HE DONT WORRY ABOUT STATS OR COVER BOYS!(LEBRON) DUDE IS A PUNK! GO BRAYLON.

  • The Seed Posted: Oct.25 at 7:00 pm
    PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS those dudes don’t influence me first all, I can care less about dead dudes who try to say important things at their time in life. I know someone who has more real quotes and truths than them and can really make you think about your life without some silly quotes. Get real man, I can care less about MJ views. Next go to CNN they did polls and Kobe was behind Tiger, Soccer is not big in America, COme on, I know about those dudes you are talking about, but in America soccer is a sport behind hockey. Get real Greek dude, soccer is big in other parts of the world, but America fuels which sports stars get seen, but the avearge urban kid does not care about soccer. Thats why a lot AMericans thought Beckham was going to be good, but I know a little about soccer and knew he was washed up and not a top player any more, but people in AMerica thought they were going to see a great player now, NOT and in America people play other sports if they truly have atheltic talent than soccer, so World wide, like CNN said FACTS Kobe is number 2, you forget Kobe has the number one selling jersey in Europe, China and America. YES and Kobe clearly sparks interest if you like him or not. GREEK GUY go watch some soccer on a channel nobobdy watches.

  • nashty Posted: Oct.26 at 3:03 am
    you guys sound like a bunch of whiny school girls. The list is for the up-coming season and don’t read it if you don’t like the aritcle. Jesus….

  • mookie Posted: Oct.26 at 12:59 pm
    Kobe is just like Slam magazine. Slam gets no love for being a great Basketball Mag. Labeled as a “wanna-be” mag. Slam, after 15 years, finally got some votes in NBA awards. Kobe just started getting love from basketball writers, is labeled as a “wanna-be mike”.

  • Richard ESQ Posted: Oct.26 at 3:24 pm
    Kobe is better than Lebron in my book because to quote another great man, Herman Edwards: “You Play To Win The Game,” and no player in the NBA will cause a team to win more than Kobe Bryant right now. Lebron may be bigger stronger faster, Lebron may do more things overall, but head to head, one on one, with everything on the line, Kobe will continue to beat Lebron. He will continue to do so until his body breaks down. At this point in their careers, Kobe is a champion, Lebron is a tape confiscator.

  • rew Posted: Oct.26 at 7:36 pm
    Ryan, you wrote a good piece. It really says everything there is to say about Kobe without tired analysis or statistical data. It says Kobe’s game is beyond those things, he is simply great – so there it is.

  • 宇文轩 Posted: Oct.27 at 12:06 pm
    No.1 shoulb be kobe! His early career is better than LBJ at least!!

  • young HP Posted: Oct.27 at 2:07 pm
    what a f*cki*g disappointment. are u kidding me? u guys consider yourselves the best basketball mag in the plabet and yet u guys couldnt even do a “best player list” right. well, u guys could say that lebron has better scoring, assist, rebounding, steals averages but all those dont mean shi*t cause at the end of the day, its the rings that count, its what defines a “great player”, in kobe’s case, the “best player” in the world. 4 rings as opposed to none, damn, not even worth debating for.

  • young HP Posted: Oct.27 at 2:34 pm
    what a f*cki*g disappointment. are u kidding me? u guys consider yourselves the best basketball mag in the plabet and yet u guys couldnt even do a “best player list” right. well, u guys could say that lebron has better scoring, assist, rebounding, steals averages but all those dont mean shi*t cause at the end of the day, its the rings that count, its what defines a “great player”, in kobe’s case, the “best player” in the world. 4 rings as opposed to none, damn, not even worth debating for.

  • Dre Posted: Oct.27 at 8:21 pm
    People kill me saying Lebron hasn’t won anything yet. First of all Kobe won his first championship as the undisputed leader of his team… before then he was always Robin to Shaq’s Batman. Secondly all these short-minded Lebron haters are all probably too young to remember but most people considered Jordan the best player a good 2-3 years before he even won 1 ring. Now that Lebron is doing his thing and has a much more well rounded game then Kobe (he is becoming the triple double King) he hasn’t won anything yet. To all them I say… haters… please.

  • ball4life Posted: Oct.28 at 11:51 am
    F*ck that kobe should be #1. He is one of the top 5 players of all time. Lebron is good but hes not on kobe’s level yet. Its’s like comparing Michael Jordan and Clyde Drexler.

  • Akash Posted: Oct.31 at 5:12 pm
    Number 2? What the?? He averaged 28 points per game,was second in MVP voting,Finals MVP,and his team was second in the league.LeBron is a beast player but I still KB24 is the best.

  • Akash Posted: Oct.31 at 5:18 pm
    Kobe should be number 1 because he’s a hell of a player who knows how to pass,score,and defend.He was MVP in the year his team lost in the finals.

  • kobe... no joke its my real name Posted: Nov.22 at 11:48 am
    Lecrap hasnt prooven himself to be better, where r his rings? he is amazing, but kobe can beat em any day

  • ERIC G Posted: Nov.26 at 8:38 pm
    KOBE is the best player in basketball right now FOR EVER AND EVER

  • joe salgado Posted: Dec.23 at 12:37 pm
    Kobe is the one I honestly beleve u will never see a better player than kobe!

  • bigstriker Posted: Jan.19 at 3:44 pm
    I’m a huge kobe fan and have been for years…but i am also a huge basketball fan and can look at the game without bias.I don’t believe kobe is 2 but i also don’t think bron should be 2.at the level these two guys are plying at with the respect to each other’s age (and the miles kobe has put on his body) it should be a tie for number 1.they really are untouchable right now in the league.I won’t go into the differences in their games and how they are both great but they really should be 1 and 1a.
    P.S. this article really was a boring read.

  • rafael Posted: Apr.20 at 4:35 pm
    I’m a Kobe hater first and foremost.One and two should be between Wade and Bron. He should be #3 if its up to me. He can’t guard anybody on his level positions 1 to 3. What I’m saying is, he can’t guard another star like himself. Yes he can score 40 plus a night but he takes just as many shots, so you do the math. Each shot is worth 2 or 3 points multiply by how many shots his taken not including free throws. He is not anywhere near MJ’s nut suck.So, please don’t mention him in the same breath as MJ. If he is the best right now then why is it even debatable whose numero UNO. After MJ won his first title untill his last. There was no debate who was #1, every day its not even a question!!! Yes, you won the title last year ’cause of who? D. Fisher- you don’t believe me? look at where they were at after he left the Lakers and when he came back! All those big shots to win the Lakers championships is taken by who? Robert Horry and Derick Fisher, so there I rest my case!!!!

  • bill breedley Posted: May.14 at 9:37 pm
    two 60 win seasons where he does not reach the finals… another record of Lebron kobe will never ever break. so much for lebron being slam’s no 1.

  • Cesar R Lopez Posted: May.31 at 8:04 pm
    If Kobe and the Lakers beat the Celtics…you guys better fix these rankings or lose a lot of cred about your basketball knowledge. Because what Kobe is doing in these playoffs should speak volumes that he’s not done and that his skills surpass that of Mr. James.

  • DreXnaW21 Posted: Jun.11 at 8:27 pm
    Kobe Bryant is the greatest basketball player in the NBA. LeBron James needs to win a couple of championships in order to become one of the greatest to play the game. Kobe is better than LeBron in everything.

  • johnpebenito Posted: Jul.17 at 11:59 pm
    kobe is the Better than lebron – Michael Jordan the GOAT

  • johnpebenito Posted: Jul.18 at 12:00 am
    KOBE IS BETTER THAN LEBRON – MICHAEL JORDAN!

  • bill breedley Posted: Jul.23 at 11:07 pm
    Kobe > Sidekick

  • adub Posted: Aug.1 at 3:41 pm
    KOBE should def be #1…

  • adub Posted: Aug.1 at 3:44 pm
    5 rings and yall put him at #2.. what the hell does he not done..

  • SoCalHoopsFan Posted: Sep.20 at 1:58 am
    Kobe > LeBron
    5 rings talk
    Kobe pre-injury was MVP
    LeBron has athleticism but lacks skill
    LeBron left to be Wade’s sidekick! And Durant has gotta be in top 5, at least above Duncan at 6. Duncan hasn’t been top-6 for over 2 years!

  • Curly Morris Posted: Sep.28 at 4:53 am
    It’s amazing. I wonder if any media outlet worth their ink would have ever decided to suggest that anyone other Jordan was the best in the game while MJ was pounding out titles. The lack of respect that Bryant gets is still befuddling. The LBJ – Kobe debate is like comparing Dominique to Jordan during their heyday. Wilkins was a superior physical specimen and could even jump higher than MJ, but nobody ever questioned who was the better baller…the Larry O’Brien trophies answered that question. Astonishing.

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