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Thursday, May 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am  |  358 responses

Post Up: Lakers/Rox Ruckus

And Ron/Fish/Wafer get a little crazy.

by Holly MacKenzie / @stackmack

Okay. I’m home. In Nova Scotia. It is 2:13 am and we’ve got half of a fourth quarter to play, five technicals, D. Fish tossed out, Ron Artest tossed out, Von Wafer tossed out (courtesy of Coach Adelman), Kobe’s elbow connecting with Ron’s neck. Technicals for Luis Scola, Lamar Odom, Luke Walton and Kobe Bryant.

This game is insane.

NBA Playoffs is where crazy happens.

My goodness.

I’m beyond making sense right now and yet I cannot imagine sleeping because this game was so damn nuts. Wasn’t planning on writing today, but needed to because we need to discuss. Everything. Anything. All of it.

I missed the C’s and Magic because I was on the plane and we didn’t have the game on the channels I had access to. I’m still not believing this night. Game 3 is going to be psycho and perhaps we could have some players missing?

I hope Ron is good and the media doesn’t go to crazy on him, assuming he’s going to go crazy. He took an elbow to the throat and overreacted a bit. Let’s leave him be.

Fisher threw Scola like he was a ragdoll.

Kobe had 40. 3 more points to pass Larry Bird for playoff scoring.

Brian Cook on the STAPLES Center court in the final seconds of a loss for the Rockets made me feel badly for him.

Everyone is talking about the Nuggets/Mavericks series and how Denver is going to out-tough Dallas. How Kenyon’s foul against Dirk (and the fine), affected Game 1, etc., etc. This series just took over as the most intense one going. Wow. And, now we go into Houston tied.

This thing is over. Tied 1-1. I knew about 20 people at this game and I’m beyond jealous of each and every one of them.

So, who gets suspended for Game 3? Rafer? Kobe? Ron? House? Fish?

And most importantly, will Adelman allow Von Wafer to step foot into the Toyota Center?

Okay, perhaps even more importantly, Boston and LA have each tied things at 1 game apiece.

I love this game.

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  • neaorin

    Flagrant 1 for the Mamba, one game for DFish. And the Magic get to choose one player to smack Rafer over the head before Game 3.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Kobe shot really great.

  • neaorin

    Also, I expect this to be a calm and reasoned discussion thread…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Fish lost a ton of respect in my eyes.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I really like the Rockets chances now, even with the loss.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Neither one of these teams will win the title.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Justin Walsh

    Eboy, I actually haven’t lost any respect for him. I think that was the most “f you for messing with a teammate” moment I’ve ever seen. He leveled him. Scola was dooshing it up

  • neaorin

    @Eboy: actually, I think the Rockets are toast, unless they can find a way to get buckets when the opponent is fronting Yao. It happened in Game 1 for a short stretch, and in Round 1 against the Blazers as well.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Yao needs to play through the fouls and dominate. The Rockets posting three guys really make them a matchup nightmare for the Lakers, regardless of how well the Lakers played last night. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Rockets come out of Houston up 3-1.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Walsh…..that’s a fa*got move. They’re grown men, if anyone needed to a slap to their face it was Odom. And if Odom wants to man up, let him do it. He’s become a complete bit*h in the Laker culture. Stop with your sillines.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Also, watching Kobe STILL not make any moves into the paint really is a telling sign for the rest of this series, if not the rest of the Lakers run. Kobe scoring 40 on 99% jump shots is something any team would live with. He won’t shoot like that every game. That’s how the Celts played him and we saw how that finished out.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Justin Walsh

    99% jumpshots, did you miss that drive to the hoop on battier where he crossed him over threw it off the backboard and scored the bucket over Yao? I guess.

  • Twinparadox

    Dunno if Ron Ron still cares…but Kobe just dropped 40.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    That’s one percent…..what else?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    How about that Bynum kid huh?

  • Twinparadox

    Haha…that is one percent Justin.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I think the series would have a much different complextion if Deke wasn’t missing. Also, the Rockets need to kill that faux mohawk sh*t. Oh yeah…Pau played a good game too.

  • Sparker

    i can’t believe i accidentally fell asleep at 10:27

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    How did the slap, which lacks a gender, love another slap of the same gender, Eboy?

  • Twinparadox

    After all the Bynum wanting Yao in the second round talk, he’s not gettin much play.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Speak English Jukai. I’m usually asleep by 11:00p and I wound up watching the enitre game last night and am running on 3 hours of sleep.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Who is Eddie House?

  • http://slamonline.com Tzvi T

    “Bryant has himself in jail, no dribble, and he throws it off the backboard to himself! Shane Battier must be wondering how you guard that!”
    ————————————————
    You don’t; you can’t

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Is it me or is it odd that Ron never switched off on Kobe when he got it going in the first period. He could have bodied him a bit more than Battier. I wonder if Adelman is waiting for the right moment to pull that full switch instead of just a couple of possessions. Also, can any of our Rockets fans explain why Barry got no burn. His shooting could have been used when the game was still in the balance, no?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I didn’t see a minute of this game, but let me take a guess: when Kobe elbowed Ron in the neck, the refs acted like they didn’t see it, right?

  • Matthew

    I know this doesn’t pertain to this series per say, but in honor of all the feisty-ness and hostility going on in both games last nite, the best line of the evening came from, guess who?? The Chuckster struck again. In regards to Rafer and E. House, “Those two couldn’t fight their way out of a sack of wet potatoes!!” Hahahahaha!!! Hilarious. And Fish gains respect from his teammates and around the L last night for what he did. At least in my opinion. He stands up for his guys. Ron Ron, even though he can more than handle himself, was the only person to say anything to Kobe last night after their little dust up. Lakers in 6.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    You said the move was gay, albeit in a less friendly term. I’m wondering how a slap can love the slap of a same gender, when a slap is an action and lacks gender and emotion.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I’m quite sure if Ron pulled that same bush league move that Fish did there’d be on-line petitions to “send his thug ass to jail.” It’s a Laker though, so it’s all good. When Rondo tossed Hinrich into the scorers table it was “What a dirty little pri*k”. Uhm, Fish is a known dirty player. Has been for years. Idiot. Yes Tad, Kobe for the second game in a row got away with blatant dirty plays. SURPRISE!!!!!!! But he did look menacing whenever he shook his head at Shane after draining a J.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m wondering why House doesn’t get consistent burn? Doc yanks around his minutes more than anyone on that team.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Whatever Jukai…..I’m still marvelling at the legth and luxiourious texture of Sasha’s hair.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    The machine does have beautiful hair…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Meh. I’ll be watching the Nuggets game tonight.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    *length

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Spelling be damned.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Did Sir Charles really say on the post-game show that he’s not sure if Kobe can shoot like this three more times to take this series? I didn’t see it but that seems strange coming from him.

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    Why does Rondo not know that if he cut his numbers in half, they would still be respectable? Why does he have to toy with conventional stat lines? Why?

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    I dare anybody on this planet to say they expected performances like these from Rondo when he first got to the league. Way to prove the haters wrong man. WOW

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You know, Hisham makes a good point. Imagine if KG was healthy with Rondo playing at the level he is now. The series potential between the Cavs and the Celts would be ridiculous for the ECF’s instead of questions about the Celts having enough to even get there.

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    btw, Rondo looks like those aliens from Mars Attacks AKK AKK AKK AKK AKK

  • http://slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Fred34

    On the replay Scola was dying – I mean DYING to flop – its not like he was already set in his pick. Yeah Fish dropped a shoulder, yes he should be punished, but don’t overlook the fact that scola smelled an opportunity to flop – he does have a *few* pounds and inches on Fish after all. Ron ron is just funny – its like going up to a cop *obviously* high and askin him for directions. But the cop has already busted you before AND your QP stash is in your car. Yeah the cop could have overlooked messing with you – but you have a target tattooed on your face. Oh my bad, engraved in your head….

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Would that make him related to Eric the Midget by association?

  • http://slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Fred34

    I guarantee you in 2 weeks it comes out that crazy Ron ron has pigeons just like M Tyson – I’m just waiting for the video on u tube

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    I’m really really REALLY hating Rondo right now. Every game he plays, he’s proving me wrong. Which sucks.

  • http://slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Fred34

    When are we holding the wake and subsequent funeral for A Bynum, RIP. ?

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    i dunno fred, fish seems like a pretty strong guy. he basically threw all his body weight at scola. not sure how luis is supposed to counter that. oh and where did fish’s scratch on the head come from?

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    oh and TAD, of course the refs didn’t see kobe throw an elbow at ron ron. they instead call a foul on him for getting elbowed

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    @Walsh: how was Scola dooshing it?. the man didnt do anything but stand up for himself after that fruitcake Odom tried to start with him. and then Luke Walton? everyone on the Lakers swear they r hard. Shannon brown’s the only dude i can stand on that team

  • http://slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Fred34

    Watch the replay, Fish being strong, throwing a hockey move and Scola dying to flop are not mutually exclusive. There’s a replay birds eye where you see Scola hadn’t got there yet, wasn’t set. Sure toss Fish by all means. Too bad we’re not back in the day when BOTH cats would have tried to stand their ground. (anyone else miss them Dtroit bad boys – that intensity on a whole team…?)

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    and why do the Lakers get away with everything? especially kobe. like i understand hes a good player but i seen the dude travel three times yesterday off pump fakes and jabs. plus getting Ron suspended was just wack

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    also, was ron ejected for having 2 technicals, or did he get ejected on the spot? i dont remember seeing the refs T him up for stepping to kobe

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Scola is an assh*le and I just wish someone had done something like that to him much earlier in his career.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Rafer Alston is now my new favorite player.

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    fred, i just watched the replay, and it doesnt look like scola was trying to flop at all. fish literally takes him out. i’ll post the link, but to save time from it getting moderated, search “Scola gets LAID OUT by Fisher” and you’ll see for yourself

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR
  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Fred: Everyone on the Detroit Bad Boy starting five flopped, Dumars excluded. Just cause they would throw down, doesnt’ mean they wouldn’t play the refs.

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    oh, and if you’re the type that has seizures from flashing lights on screens, don’t watch that ish

  • http://slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Fred34

    Jukai I guess I was referring more to the time than the team – I was thinking more Oak and Mason – goin up against Dtroit…. Oak and Mason don play dat

  • Dave

    Out of 341 comments in this thread, Eboy said one thing I agree with – “I’m quite sure if Ron pulled that same bush league move that Fish did there’d be on-line petitions to “send his thug ass to jail.””

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    i’m waiting for a clip of ron’s interview in the locker room. that story to show how he’s no stranger to physical games. basically, he said how one time he was playing ball in the hood, and one of his teammates get a broken piece of a table thrown straight through his heart and died on the spot. damn!

  • Gii

    I think it looks like Ron got tossed for making that “slit your throat” gesture? Although, I think he was just demonstrating how Kobe elbowed him in the throat.

    “You’re hitting the wrong person. Don’t you know you’re hitting Ron Artest?”

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Sorry…..I actually did this purposley so that people can’t say that Laker haters “stay quiet like they’re in fu*king church” after a Lakers victory. Someone said earlier that Shannon Brown is the only guy they liked…..I kind of feel that too…..although I still like Ariza too.

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    gil, you might be right. maybe he was doing the elbow motion, but then his thumb stuck out, so it looked like the slit your throat motion

  • Myung

    I got killed on here by a lot of you for writing about a month ago that Andrew Bynum was a little better than Brendan Haywood. I still stand by my assessment. Bynum might make 1 or 2 ASG’s in his career max, but I think that’s bc the Center position in the L isn’t deep and I definitely don’t see him as the can’t-miss star that a lot of people have deemed him to be.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Myung…..it’s also possible that Bynum’s leg isn’t completley healthy either and he just figured he’d come back and play at a reduced level.

  • Squirrel7

    Agreed on Bynum, it’s amazing how a team’s fans will claim that a missing player is the reason for any struggles they might be having, when said player isn’t even a major component. It’s all just a convenient excuse. Getting rid of that p*ssy Fisher would be more use than getting Bynum healthy, the Lakers have needed a premier point-guard for as long as I can remember (in his prime, GP doesn’t count).

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    its true tho. Shannon brown, and i guess ariza too, are the only ones that don’t act like they’re the best thing since Magnums. even players like Sasha think they’re nice. it’s like a team full of rich, stuck up, prima donnas

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Still no sign of the Monkey King?

  • Squirrel7

    If you’re not healthy, then don’t come back. They were still hardly getting beat while he was injured, and does he think someone like Phil Jackson won’t notice if he’s dogging it, because he can barely walk?! If you were one of the absolute superstars of the league (Bron, Wade, CP3, Kobe, etc.) then maybe play hurt occasionally, but if you’re a role player, then you at 50% is probably not that much better than your backup at 100%.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    Eddie house about Rafer’s B*tch move: “thats what happens when u keep whoopin somebody’s @ss

  • Squirrel7

    It’s not as if the Lakers are short of options anyway when he’s injured, they can always roll with Pau at the 5, then Odom, Ariza, Kobe and Fisher.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I think Bynum at 50% percent is still better than Mebenga at 100%.

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    AKK AKK AKK AKK

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    Bynum still shouldn’t have run his mouth about wanting Yao this round, though. YOU CAN’T WANT HIM FROM THE BENCH, DREW! But then again, he cant’t do anything against him but foul. That’s all Bynum is right now. 4 points, 3 rebs and 6 fouls

  • Squirrel7

    Haha, I wasn’t thinking of Mebenga, I meant they could easily shift the line-up to the one I mentioned above (with Pau inside). Yao isn’t overly physical, so the fact Pau is weaker than my Gran shouldn’t be an issue…..

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    Rajon Rondo can’t shoot jumpers. AKK AKK AKK AKK

  • Squirrel7

    I have actually been impressed with some of Rondo’s shooting this season, considering his jumper was always his weakness, and I’d almost changed my opinion on it, then he airballed that free-throw….. (I know that’s technically a set-shot, but still!)

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    Rondo doesn’t need a damn jumper. If he can get 20, 15 and 10 without a jumper, then why does he need a jumper? Let’s look at it this way: If a player can’t shoot, he’s also less likely to settle for outside shots.

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    And before everybody starts, of course it would help his game, being a threat from outside will stretch the D more, give you more driving opportunities etc etc. All i’m saying is the guy is doing just fine.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Ya’ll are funny. Kobe elbowed him because Artest’s elbow/forearm was pushing down on the back of his neck. And for suspensions… if Artest doesn’t get a game… I mean, Paul got a game for throwing up gang signs. Artest made a jesture of cutting Kobe’s throat. If he doesn’t get at least one…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    1 thing every team that played last night has in common: they will not win the championship

  • Squirrel7

    James, what’s it like to see everything through purple&gold-tinted glasses?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    squirrel, they have Kobe’s cum stains on the lens too.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Beautiful. Fisher should get a game to. But ya’ll disagree with anything Kobe does. You guys hate so much.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    James: maybe because we have valid reasons to hate Kobe?

  • Squirrel7

    Personally, I think that Kobe was perfectly entitled to elbow Ron Ron, how dare a lesser player breathe the same oxygen as the legendary Black Mamba………..

  • http://slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Fred34

    yup 40 of em – with battier trying his damndest nonetheless

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Lost in all of this discussion, is Kobe attacking Ron Ron. Most players even Lebron has been backing down to Ron like that game when Ron was pushing and hitting Lebron all over the court, when he hits, scratches and talks. Kobe will not have it and people need to realize Kobe is trying to get in Ron’s head and he did and will for the rest of this series. Plus I am the only one who think Ron is an act, alot of people come from the hood and play physical, so him acting like I am the Hoodest, Physical, Toughest dude is fake to me. There’s an old saying watch the quiet guys, and Ron is getting a taste of his own medicine, he plays fine for one season and now he has no problems, but just two years ago, was begging to play with Kobe. Ron is an actor, tired of this fake mocha crap, ron will get his one day, trust me.

  • Ritchie

    I don’t think Ron or Kobe shoulda gotten a foul. They we’re just down low fighting for a rebound. All big men do stuff like that down low.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Game 3….Awwwww Yeah!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/linkstigatorkevin Kevin Wilson

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3f6b3tVchY

    The NBA Rules Committee needs to say this is a travel during the offseason. Watch the replay at the :15 mark. Bryant has already picked up his dribble, and by throwing the ball a foot away from the rim, he gets to take an additional three steps before putting in his “rebound.” It’s unfair for Battier or anybody to defend an offensive player who gets five steps.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Kobe has a history of doing this, ask Raja Bell. Should we name Kobe a dirty player now?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    The Seed, if you think Ron Artest is all bark no bite you are 100x dumber than i suspected, and this includes my expirence of meeting you after fu(king your mom and you saying ‘thank you good sir’ for the job well done i did to her. —-you can bann me now—-

  • Joe A

    If I was Luis Scola, and Fisher did that to me, Fisher would still be crawling around the half court line picking up his teeth.

  • Squirrel7

    While I don’t agree with everything The Seed says, I also feel sometimes that Ron Artest’s persona is all an act. He’s all mouth (remember when he said he could lead the league in PPG), and some of his stories about how gangsta he is sound very unlikely (the scenario about the guy being stabbed to death on a basketball court sounds ridiculous, to be perfectly honest). To me, he’s a better-than-average player, a superb defender, but also a complete lunatic who seems to have bought into this ‘hood’ image that the media have created for him, as much as they have.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Joe A is one bad a$$ motha shut yo mouth

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    the ack ack ack marsmen were badass. So is Orlando going to replace the arena tunes with some sad crooning sad troubadour music….? Wear earplugs, Rajon! (FANTASTIC statline btw, wow)

  • Squirrel7

    Complete lunatic was probably a little harsh, he just seems as though there is a screw loose somewhere, which stops him from ever taking the sensible option…..

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    If Shaq was still on the Lakers, would we be heading to the Toyota center tied up?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Yeah, Kobe came out spitting fire in that first quarter. Good game for the Fakers.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Yall got jokes lol. Kobe should be suspended for LIFE!!! He through and elbow downlow with Artest on his back. How THE F()CK is Kobe not suspended. This is bullsh1t. Kobe is f()cking dirty. I hate him.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Ron shouldn’t have been tossed. The biggest problem with all these techs and suspensions is that they’re not being given out objectively. Kobe will get away with basically whatever he wants (Rondo as well) while Ron will get tossed with a quikness.

  • Squirrel7

    I bet James took a shower after saying that.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Zee! if shaq were still on the lakers, i would actually LIKE them and they would most likely be a dynasty. Too bad playing ‘schoolyard bully’ vs ‘ballhograpistprimadona’ ended the possiblity of that for both of them

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Bobjordancats, your mom was better-its all good, See people buy into this I am Ron Artest from the hood crap. I know cats like that, they get no respect from me. If he is so gangsta, go back to the hood, if not shut up and play ball, I have played with alot of folks like Ron, who come off like that, I soon as you don’t back down, you know where I am from. Come on. Ron is an actor to me, if he was gangsta he would have hit Kobe, also wasn’t Ron all on Kobe two years ago, saying I want to play for the Lakers, funny how things change. I am tired of this hood act, this is my opinion, so like it or not. Ron does not scare me and doesn’t scare Kobe. Also just because you play in the hood, or is aggressive, doesn’t make you tough and Ron has lived on this act from day one in the NBA. Kobe will own Ron for the rest of the series.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    That was a dirty play by Fisher.
    I can’t believe y’all are defending that. He saw the pick coming, gathered himself, and threw his shoulder into dude’s chest…That was way beyond being tough. Damn, imagine if Ron had done that. He would be looking at two games right now.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I can only come to the summation that the Seed is a semi-intelligent 4 year old with decent typing skills that never saw the Palace incident.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    LMAO @ BET’s 11:12 comment. Man, that made my month.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    The Seed, you really shouldnt have thrown that bear at ron all those years ago. I am sorry he whooped your a$$, but please stop being a ignorant hater trying to argue with a man who is making it his mission to get banned. Kobe will own Ron? SLAVERY WAS MADE ILLEGAL QUITE A LONG TIME AGO. Although seeing what type of person Kobe is, he might be fond of the idea…

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Lakers – Rockets, round 3. I predict….. PAAAAIN! (mambiatch had himself a gorgeous shooting night, with lots of meanmugging and F-Bombs dropped in to emphasize the point. Bravo. And i think Ron, with all his tough guy act etc. Shouldn’t freak out over a random elbow on a box out. Nail him back on the next play.. You are Ron Artest. He is snake no. 24. You go crying to the ref that you got hit by said reptile. You, scourge of the nba enterprise. And you expect sympathy from the refs? Suck it up, tough guy)

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I said that a couple of hours ago Allen….you’re 100% percent correct.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Kobe had better watch out, he might get his in the heart with a table leg.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    And how do you know my mom is better? You must have tried both! YOU FU(KED YOUR OWN MOTHER. THE SEED IS ONE SICK DUDE, NOT SWINE FLU ESQ SICK EITHER…’THE ODEPIUS SEED’ is your new name

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Nope. Kobe shouldn’t be allowed to play lol. I was watching the game last night with a die hard Kobe hater and Lebron fan. Both of them couldn’t believe Ron was at the line 6 times at one point and Kobe once. Shane was hand checking Kobe all night and riding his back. And if you drive past a tripple team, you cannot tell me 6 hands are blocking a shot and non are grabbing Kobe. Artest is an idiot because he was keeping the Rockets in the game and decided to go face to face with Kobe. And Kobe even said after the game at the press conference that Ron shouldn’t have been kicked out. You haters on this thread see Kobe being dirty. Well I see Ron Artest and Shane both fouling Kobe all night, and Ron being really physical down low. And Kobe just getting physical back. Ya’ll just die to find whats wrong with Kobe. He dropped 40-6-3-3 last night. Let the game be, he played good, it got physical so he got physical. Ron did his usual of “I have to sh1t” look impression when he gets pi$$ed. And now we are going to the Toyota centre tied. If Fish or Ron get a game, the other one should get one as well. If not let the game play. Kobe hopefully can drive a little more but Kobe’s shot is second to Ray’s. He is money… looks pretty eh Squirrel??

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    BET is making my stomach hurt. Ok, I need to remember i’m at work.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Ron Artest better not get suspended. Eff Kobe and eff that faux tough Lakers.
    And I didn’t have a problem with them before…
    Bottom line, Ron Artest will beat Kobe’s butt if Artest ever truly snapped. Hell, I’d wager that Shane Battier would beat Kobe’s butt.
    When Raja clotheslined him for all those elbows, and when Chris Child and Doug Christie took his manhood, we all saw that Kobe ain’t bout scrapping. Period…
    KG neither.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    James White is on the Rockets. I just got a reason to like that team

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    @ BET, Bear is an animals. BEER is a drink!!

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    kobe hit him in the chest, not the neck. artest flopped a little too. its ok to hate the lakers, but just be fair. look: http://zip.4chan.org/sp/src/1241674199380.gif

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Bringing it back to the West all tied up. Dueces up biotches!

  • jumpman3224

    I really don’t think Kobe’s elbow was a dirty one. They were tangled and jockying for position. DFish throwing Scola down was dirty. He probably deserves to be suspended for one game. I don’t have a problem with it tho. Scola knocked Odom in the head and then grabbed his jersey. DFish took offense just like a pitcher would after his guy gets thrown at. I’m not worried about Kobe not being able to shoot like that every game keeping the Lakers from winning the series. Great players find ways to win. Either way with Artest coming back next game it is going to be crazy.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    i meant beer but bear works, either way the result of a$$ beating and JO’s slide punch occured. Why does the malace only follow Ron and Stack Jack? Jermaine was the one with the coolest moves yet nobody talks about his role in the fight.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Yes, Kobe putting his head back, hands up in a surrended position when Ron stepped RIGHT INTO HIS FACE made me believe in the fear that Kobe brings to all that play him. GTF out of here with that stupid sh*t. Kobe’s about as tough as his wife.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    BET: seed threw A BEAR at Artest? Sheeit, i’d have gone in the stands too if a bear was stalking the court. Hehe. Btw, that was quite a nasty rebuke you had on dude. Guess you both have comment-history, so that’s between y’all.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    @ Darks, agreed.
    hahaha at Allen-you are an idiot. WHo cares who is a better fighter lol. Here I will agree with you. yes Kobe couldn’t beat Ron is a MMA match. Ok that is great. Any more solid points from the mouth of a tool?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    If Artest gets suspended for this…..well it would be just ridiculous wouldn’t it?
    Oh and:
    “That’s a fa*got move”-White hot Eboy.

  • Squirrel7

    Despite being one of the nicest guys in the NBA, I’d fancy Battier to take out most players in the NBA, the guy is the kind of tough that means he doesn’t need to shout about it. And Seed, what will look pretty will be the Rockets advancing, though I think that will depend heavily on Ron-Ron regaining his focus.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Why should this series matter? The winner of the Rockets-Lakers just gets the honor of getting their buttwholes destroyed, prison style, by the Nuggets. Chauncey Billups and Co will toss Kobe’s salad…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    HAHAHAHA @ DARKS. My stomach hurts now lol.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Ron is real, don’t get it twisted. CoSign Ariza and Shanon Brown as the only Lakers that aren’t toal f@ggots. And I know the LAkers were double and triple teaming Yao, but 4 shots? Thats unacceptable. I think Houston will take game three and game 4 will probably be one of the hardest fought games of the post season.
    Pau played pretty damn well last night too, I always bash the guys so he deserves some credit when he plays like that.

  • riggs

    @The Seed: ive played with both Ron AND his brother before, so i can legitimately tell you to shut the f*ck up cause you don’t know anything. thanks.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Riggs, you the man!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Lets be real: kobe is fun to watch. BUT his argubaly ‘dirty’ playing and off-court stuff have killed any likingness i could have for him. Just cannot appreciate the work of a artist that doubles as a cerial killer, and this artist also tries his hardest to replicate the greatest artist of all time instead of becoming it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    @ RIggs – I played with both Kobe and your sister. And I can tell you to shut the f()ck up, and your sisters snatch stinks!!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Betcats your new name is BOBJORDANCATS for now own and if you want to get banned just stop typing, you don’t say anyting smart anyways and this Ron tough guy run to refs cause Kobe threw elbow mess is dumb. WHy didn’t Ron elbow him back on the next play to send a message and yes. Kobe will own Ron. Kobe’s in his head if he is bringing up metal threw a man’s heart-come on. Lakers in 6.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Fisher’s play was DIRTY, all caps. If you wanna stand up for your players, you go up to the dude’s FACE and tell him straight up, give him a shove. You don’t surprise drop him like that. That’s dirty.

  • tenorca

    The Lakers skipped “tough” and went right to “dirty.” Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    The Seed thinks Ron is all talk? Oh my goodness.. Ask half a dozen Detroit fans if they think Ron Ron is all talk.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    He is tough and smart? You cant accept that? Is it too much. Mr. Oedipus Seed, i apreciate the fact you try and give me a new name, but on the real, Ron Artest IS what he says he is and Kobe is not. I appreciate authenticness. You might settle on $35 ‘Made In China’ Jordans, but i need legit $175 ones from finishline. Ron Artest is legit, too legit to quit, MC Hammer in this motha fu(ka. SPAINISH TIME I AM OUT

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    any rebukes are just bit(ha$$e$, and not rebukes. Thank you for playing, Oedi!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’d pay good money for a Ryan Jones comment on all of this.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    The Seed, Ron knows he can’t “elbow Kobe back” because he’s get suspended. Fu.ck Kobe He’s a b1tch.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    SLAMonline: Powerade better be paying yall out the ass.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Fish locked up the James Norris Memorial Trophy last night, that’s all I know. Two-minute major.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Im done today on this board, just because he went in the stands he is tough. Wow. I have know crazy folks and people do things out of reaction, not because he’s real. I guess I am the only one who is tired of this hood, thug, i’m bad, don’t mess with me I am ron artest stuff. Its funny to me, I have played ball alot and I am physical so this mess is dumb. Also anybody else can say I am dumb too and stupid, but Ron is an actor he has been in the league what 8 years and this persona as a thug is all he got to me. He didn’t even make first team defense, and he is suppose to be known for that. OK

  • Hisham

    I now know what Myles meant. You are all so immature!

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Normally I’d agree that the elbow was just Kobe grappling for the ball under the basket spur of the moment thing… but I’ve seen Kobe do that WAYYY too many times to Raja Bell for me to consider it a coincidence.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    While all of this chit chat has gone on…..Kobe went to the basket once.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    STOP brining up Raja. i.e. armbar!! He is dirty. So STOP.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Hisham:What tipped you off,was is the gay jokes or the mom jokes?

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    @ ciolk – They can’t hear you. Too busy counting that Powerade money.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    Cosign everyone thats hating on the SEED
    seriously, did u just become a basketball fan this year?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    WHile all of this Chit Chat went on, the bobcats went to the bas… well. The bobcats took 5 sho… ummm. Well … while all of this went on Vlad hit a hole in one. Jordan called Kobe and said he will take care of Ron Artest. Larry called Ron and said “why are you crying to the refs”. And May just hate 16 twinkies and a ring ding!!

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    The Lakers are 25-12 all time when splitting the first two games of any best-of-7 series. I’ll roll with those odds. And Kenny Smith needs to roll with a new tailor.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    James….I wrote that….you should have replaced those Bobcat names with D-Wade, Riley, Spoelstra etc. To be fair.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    lol I am copywriting yo sh1t!! And naw, BET is drinking haterade on the slam home page. So I figured hey, why not hit him where it hurts.. in his vag.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Ah…..well….carry on….I like your battles with “THE” BET.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Damn man, Bell is the CLEANEST PLAYER IN THE L. That dude is straight up rough defense. Find me a clip of Raja doing ANYTHING cheap.

  • http://www.basketbrasil.com.br Rubens Borges

    How can someone say Kobe was fighting for position!? He threw an elbow. He wont get suspended. If Ron did that, he’d be all over the ehadlines as a thug. I’ll stop my ranting now…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Not so much battles, more like I am the ref and he is Ron Artest. He comes and complains about Kobe. I laugh. and then kick him the F()CK out of the game. GTFOH. And BET has to like me, I am his brother in law, and after getting his sister pregnant, I am going to name our child Kobe God Mamba BET’s Master “my last Name”!!

  • Hisham

    Izzo, you just inspired me to join in on the fun. The seed, your mom is a lezbian

  • tenorca

    And The Seed is ‘tarded. Artest is definitely in the NBA’s “I would in no way fu(k with that man” Fav Five.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Raja Bell … playoffs.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Holly MacKenzie: Artest OVERREACTED? Are you serious? Did you not WATCH the way the Lakers were playing? Co-sign Rubens Borges for the truth.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Find it James.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    James
    Kobe likes to pretend he doesn’t know why people are upset. He’s elbowing cats, posing like he’s tough and then when cats respond he’s “What’s this guy’s problem?”
    That’s wack. That ain’t cool, that ain’t tough. That’s Bruce Bowen with better PR.
    Cats riding Kobe’s nuts need to understand that’s a lame way to act on the court and in life. Man up son. If you’re going to be dirty, then don’t pretend to be an angel when cats respond.
    I don’t like people who are fake. I don’t like people who put on a pose. It’s why I’ve never liked Kobe, no matter how much I respect his skills.
    Punk.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    As much as the Seed is slow. He likes Kobe. But Artest is a bad man!! Allow, 2 years ago. He wanted to play with Kobe… so I mean. When your great, your great.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Allen, you seem to know how fake Kobe is? WAIT… are you Ron Artest? GTFOH.

  • Hisham

    Or can i just say lesbian on here

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Whoa, whoa, whoa Allenp… Comparing anyone in the L to Bruce Bowen is uncalled for. That dude knees/punches people in the nuts, steps on their faces, ends peoples SEASONS by twisting their ankles… and has this deer in headlights look right afterwards.
    Kobe’s just a prick.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    One observation regarding “the enforcer” Fisher. If Fish EVER tries to flop wildly, swingin his arms like paddles, and landing on his arse, all in the name of getting a charge, he should receive a technical. You know, like yellow cards for acting in soccer. As we all have aasumed just by looking at him, and actively witnessed last game, Derek can sure stand his ground!! Flopper.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I see you, E. Thats why he’s not as good as Bron. Or even Wade. I said even before this series started Kobe would need to make about 60% of his jumpers for the Lakers to win. He did that last night(and I’ll admit the Lakers did a pretty great job of limiting Yao), so they got the W.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    F**k is ya’ll talkin bout? Kobe’s in yo mouths so Kobe’s what you talkin bout.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    eboy…not sure why Barry didn’t play, i’m guessing since Yao wasnt getting the ball Adelman didnt want to risk putting a slow barry in there, last game he was able to feed off of Yao.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ TADOone 9:26 am: You are correct!
    On a side note: Ron Artest is tough and smart, AND he’s one of the most well-balanced players in the league. The fact that him and/or Battier didn’t make All-Defensive 1st team, while Kobe and/or LeBron did instead, is a shamockery.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Bruise Bowen with better PR. Now that’s a great line.

  • Hisham

    I find it funny that no one on here has mentioned that ron artest has a ton of respect for kobe’s game, and loves playing against him. They have their occasional thing on the court, but the bottom line is that both players respect each other a lot. And i know that because i’ve played with both of them and they respect me too. And my mom is not a lesbian

  • Orlando Green

    Shoulda been a normal foul on Kobe, D-Fish will be back for game 3.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Seed: Gangsta, hood, thuggish, etc…those words aren’t always interchangeable…It sounds like your experience/definition of hood is different than Ron’s, so of course you’re going to think he’s fake.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Bryan, why is Scola an asshole?

  • BBallrehab

    I officially can’t stand Kobe Bryant anymore; he doesn’t only look and sound like a snitch and an hypocrite, last night he proved he also acts like one. If there’s any justice he’ll get suspended for game three.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    anyone have a clue what Wafer did/said to tick Adelman off so bad? Rick is one of the nicer nba coaches.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Dark
    Thank you.
    James
    It’s cool if you want to trade insults. I’m sure BET and some of these other cats will do that with you. That’s not my style.
    But, you can’t deny that Kobe has a history of doing sneak, dirty stuff and then pretending to be innocent. The whole arm thing he got suspended for a while back was an example of that. He was swinging his arm at people’s faces as a way to punish them for challenging his shot and to try to draw fouls. It was blatant. He didn’t deserve to be suspended, but that was a dirty move.
    Kobe is an amazing offensive player. The most complete offensive player in the league. But, he is dirty, he’s fake and he’s full of BS. You watch the cat and you can see who he is. Folks who don’t want to admit that are living in denial in my opinion.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Then there is no justice, BBallrehab. Kobe has about the same of chance of getting suspended as I have starting at SG for the Nuggets on Saturday.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    I hate the fact some fans will see this as ron “losing it”….the fact that he was ejected in this game, when in any other game he’d just get a tech, makes it all seem much worse. And he didn’t do a slashing throat gesture, he was showing he got hit across the neck…

  • Hisham

    I actually once threw a wooden stake through the chest of one artest’s friends. Anybody ever heard that story? I’m tough as nails man. Tougher than the seeds mom

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I’m not sure, Dark. I would like to know as well though. Adelman is very professional, maybe Wafer hinted that he was going to try and respond with something dirty and Rick wasn’t feeling it?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    ^AllenP is %100 on the money in his Kobe analysis there.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Hey Star, how is Chauncey at point? Get lots of touches?

  • tenorca

    My hate for Kobe was waning a little. I thank him for rebooting it.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Yup, RV Ron even said himself, he was expecting to get a tech. Thats all it should’ve been. The league needs to reconsider some of the Tech/Flagrant/toss out/suspension guidelines because its effecting the game s too often and too severly, unless the culprit is a player/team they want to protect (Kobe -Lakers // Rondo – Celtics)

  • Hisham

    Nobody laughs at my stupid ignorant jokes. I’ll stop now

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Dark, not sure, Von’s known for pouting when he gets taken out of games or not put in, but he’s also very emotional even when he’s just cheerleading on the bench, it’s hard to say what happened, i dont see the Rockets talking about it.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Yup RV, Ron even said himself, he was expecting to get a tech. Thats all it should’ve been. The league needs to reconsider some of the Tech/Flagrant/Toss out/Suspension guidelines and how the refs apply them, because its effecting the games too often and too severly, unless ofcourse the culprit is a player/team they want to protect (Kobe/Lakers or Rondo/Celtics) While guys like Ron And Kmart get treated with the “Sheed Rules”, its just bad for the game and bad for the true fans who just want to see some good competitive ball.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    I was thinking along those lines too, ciolk. Wasn’t Wafer a Laker earlier. I’m sure thete’s some resentment simmering in thete and seeing Kobe act all innocent didn’t help his pulse much

  • truthteller

    All I’ve been reading on this post are idiots saying that Kobe isn’t tough. Are you guys kidding me or are you just really, really stupid? When we are talking about toughness in basketball, we’re not talking about all that MMA crap! I think a lot of you idiots are confusing the two. We’re talking about mental and physical toughness to get into your defenders minds and dominate them and playing through very physical play when the defense is all geared towards stopping you! And they don’t get any tougher than Kobe! You idiots really baffle me! I still haven’t seen anybody on this thread complaining about Lebron getting away with calls and doing pretty much whatever he wants and how the media just sticks his balls in their mouths! Come on guys! The Kobe vs lebron thing is really getting tired! I’ve always said you don’t have to like the guy but you have to respect his game! How could you not?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    thete? Damn touchscreen. I meant “there”.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Kobe is tough. He’s just dirty. And fake. And a b1tch.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    Well, thanks Truth. Well spoken. Now here comes the 50 comments of why Kobe doesn’t play the game right!!

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    I just watched the video of this.
    Ron Artest first went to refs and tried to get them to handle what happened. They refused. Then he went to Kobe and took care of it himself.
    I can’t fault the man.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    You complain about us not trashing LBJ on a laker biased thread, yet you find the whole comparison thing “tired”? Paradox much?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I’m rooting for the Lakers to fail at every point along the way, but there would be a certain element of poetic justice if he were to meet Bron and the Cavs in the finals. Mainly because Bron’s ascension would become completely undeniable. Kobe is a much better shooter, but at this point thats it. And he relies on the jumper SO much compared to Bron that his scoring ability is actually less consistent, because, lets face it, he’s not going to shoot like last night in every game going forward.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc&feature=related James the balla

    OMG at Allen hahaha. You mean by runing at the ref, crying and grabbing him and that telling Kobe what? Please give yourself a foul … f()ck, he is hardcore right? Tough thug from the hood. Gangsta and badass. Stabbing people in the eye with a cork screw… play tough on the next posession lol. Jesus man. Allen takes Ron’s d1ck out of your ass and just put his balls back in your mouth so you can stop speaking.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Does Kobe make it a habit of celebrating with himself? I dont mean that to poke fun at Kobe, it’s a serious question. I don’t watch that many laker games, which is why i’m asking, but it seemed like after Kobe was bashed a while back for not being a good teammate he started celebrating a lot more with the team, high fives, pats in the back, etc. like excessively…but more recently he seems to celebrate by staring into space or the crowd, maybe even acknowledging his opponent more than his teammates like when he taunted shane…just thought it was weird..

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    They don’t like wach other, RV. No matter what everyone says. The other Lakers don’t like Kobe, he doesn’t really care about them, he depends on them and gets pissed at them when they make mistakes, but they don’t “share the joy of winning” the way most other player/teams do.

  • tenorca

    I’m seconding ciolkstar: Kobe IS tough, dirty, and a punk. He can be all three. John Stockton was.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    James
    You got a thing for penis don’t you? I mean, that seems to be your go to move when it comes to insults, balls and penis.
    I’m not going to speculate on why that is though.
    I said it in every comment. Ron Artest does not operate in the same universe as Kobe Bryant. Ron Artest can’t “retaliate” like Kobe Bryant. Ron Artest followed teh rules, went to the refs and complained, and when they decided they were going to pretend they didn’t see the elbow, he told Kobe that if something happened again, he was going ot handle it himself.
    That’s “tough”, that’s “manly.” At least that’s how I was raised. You don’t always respond with full force immediately. Sometimes you warn folks.
    My parents thought me that if somebody is trying to bully you, you let the authorities know. If they don’t handle it, you handle it yourself so the message is delivered.
    To me, that’s what Ron did. I respect and agree with that approach.
    Now tell me some more about balls…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    RV, Could it be because Kobe doesn’t have an “equal” teammate to share it with….like he did when he had Shaq there….until their jealousy of each other ended it. That’s what made Scottie and Mike special….Mike was a prick but Scottie didn’t give a sh*t cause he was doing work, getting paid, catching accolades and making himself into a legend without the supernova pressure Mike took on doing all those same things.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Someone please explain this to me: Kobe threw the elbow. That’s more or less undeniable. Maybe he gets suspended, maybe he doesn’t. But it’s not like he tried to conceal it. This wasn’t Reggie Evans squeezing Chris Kaman’s nuts, or Bruce Bowen sliding a foot under a shooter. This was overt. There for the calling. But the refs missed it. And at that point, Ron Artest had a choice. He could accept it and play on. He could try and get Kobe back on the other end (which, as per normal NBA gameplay, probably WOULD have been noticed and called). Or he could go ballistic—in a playoff game where one player had already been ejected and Joey Crawford was the lead official. He was fine in running towards the refs. They didn’t T him up for that. But when he went at Kobe, he escalated things. I’m not sure whether he should have been thrown out. A tech probably would have been sufficient. But considering the tone of the game at that point, I don’t blame the refs for tossing him.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    objection: Stockton was no “punk”.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And I don’t even have a problem with Ron telling Kobe that he was out of line. He had every right to do that. But had he waited until action resumed, he could have done it in a more rational manner—and probably stayed in the game. Although given the way he was playing at that point, it probably wouldn’t have made a difference in the end result.

  • truthteller

    Another thing that I find very interesting is that this season’s playoffs seems to be pretty similar to last year’s playoffs only this time it’s the reverse! In last year’s playoffs, the Lakers pretty much ran through the Western Conference and everybody had them winning a ‘chip. Meanwhile, Boston is duking it out with the Hawks, Cavs and Pistons. You see the Celtics were challenged the whole playoffs while the Lakers weren’t and had a rude awakening. Well this year, the Lakers are the ones being challenged while the Cavs seem to be running through oponents and we are making the same mistake we made last year by assuming that the Cavs will win it all because of that. Not this year! Open your eyes people and you can quote me on this on, “THE CAVS WILL NOT A RING THIS SEASON!”

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Russ
    I think you’re right. I wasn’t saying he shouldn’t get tossed for what happened. I’m saying that Kobe needs to get some sort of punishment for what he did, and what he did was dirty.
    If you let stuff slide with somebody like Kobe, he’s going to keep doing it. You have to check him immediately. IMMEDIATELY.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    umm, Russ? So what do you need explained. Sounded like a nice summary to me. Hehe.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Thanks truthteller. You have saved me from viewing basketball for the bext month for no reason. I appreciate that.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    I think Ron Artest is slightly unstable mentally. When you’re dealing with somebody like that, they cling to “rules.”
    Like, if you tell them that they have to follow the rules and the rules are for everybody, you have to be consistent with that. You can’t tell somebody like Artest that the rules are important, and then let Kobe slide.
    A rational person would depend on the law of averages. Ron Artest ain’t that rational. He tried to solve the problem the way he knows how.
    Period.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    But they missed it. Like I said, I don’t think Kobe was trying to get away with anything. They were tangling under the basket, things got increasingly nasty, and Kobe threw the elbow to try and get Ron off his back. These things happen. And he should have been called for a foul right there. But he wasn’t. And Ron-Ron went nuclear. Should Kobe get suspended for a play that the refs just missed? I’m not sure. That might be overkill the other way.

  • truthteller

    TADone,
    You’ve really got to work on your sarcasm! Seriously.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Ron was playing pretty damn well Russ. I wouldn’t say the reason they lost is that Ron was tossed, but he certainly would’ve given them a better shot at winning.
    And I think the only real “mistake” Ron made was being overly demonstrative getting a little too close to Kobe, he could’ve made the exact same point more quietly.
    But I agree that with the way that game was going and Joey “I should be at home during the playoffs” Crawford as the lead ref, Ron should’ve known that getting tossed could be a possibility. But I still think the fact that he went up to Kobe and not ANY OTHER player in the L contributed to his getting ejected.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    If these playoffs are any indication, Kobe will get a nice fine but no suspension.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Yeah, no argument from me. I’m a bit rusty.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Frankly, a fine would surprise me TAD.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    ciolk: Ron was playing well in general, but his offensive decision making was getting erratic, to say the least. He was driving into the defense and turning the ball over consistently. And I don’t think the fact it was Kobe had any bearing on his getting tossed. He would have gotten the hook just as fast if it was LO or Pau or Josh Powell. At least that’s what I believe.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    The Rockets would have lost the game either way. I’m not sure anyone is even disputing that.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Russ
    How did the call the foul on Artest, but miss Kobe’s elbow?
    What is seems like to me, is the refs said “Artest was fouling him, so we can’t fault Kobe for the elbow?
    That is unacceptable. And Artest let them know. If they saw Artest foul him, they had to see the elbow. The foul happened before the shot when they were establishing position, and the elbow followed the foul. When the whistle blew, both events had happened.
    So how did the refs “miss” it?
    Nah, the gave Kobe carte blanche to elbow cats, and Artest was pissed by that.

  • tenorca

    Darksaber: Gonna have to disagree there. Dude threw cheap elbows like it was his job.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m willing to bet money that Kobe will get a fine. Trust me, i’m quite sure Rick Adelman has been on the phone with the league office this morning.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    If that’s the way you see things, there’s nothing more to discuss.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I’ll concede that the game wasn’t really in the balance to Russ and TAD. But I definitely think the fact that it was Kobe and not, let’s say, Odom that Ron went up to made a big difference, likely the difference between a tech and getting tossed.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Russ, i just dont think it was ron going “nuclear”…..he didn’t get thrown out for going up to kobe, he got thrown out when he made the gesture, which i think was just a misunderstanding since it did appear to be a throat slashing gesture during live TV. I think the only wrong here was ron getting thrown out and not just T’ed up…i can live with Kobe’s elbow not being called if they did miss it, but i do think Kobe has to be held in check as well, which i what i think the refs were trying to do when they T’d him up. He was talking a lot to Houston and eventually you need to control that as well.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Russ
    Hold on.
    You saw the game. I just saw the clips. From what I saw, from the video and the pictures, Artest was fouling Kobe to get the rebound.
    KObe bent low to get leverage, and Artest’s elbow hit him the head. Kobe got pissed, threw and elbow back at Artest.
    After the shot goes up, the refs call a foul on Artest for humping Kobe. I can’t understand how they could see all of htat, and not see Kobe’s elbow. That doesn’t make sense.

  • truthteller

    I think Stu Jackson needs to stop trying to one up the refs! This has been getting a little silly over the years! If the refs miss a call, they can talk about it after the game and correct it for the next game! Why does the NBA feel like they have to correct every wrong call or add more punishment for a foul? If the ref calls a foul then let it be a foul! If the ref calls a tech, then let it be tech. And if he doesn’t see it then you know what? He doesn’t SEE IT! If the NBA feels it was a bad call then they should talk to the refs after the game and they’ll fix it for the future! I’m really getting tired of all this nonsense, “Will he get suspended or not” I think the NBA is also undermining the refs authority. If they don’t like the refs then fire them! Simple! Enough already! Let Stu worry about something else like putting together a standard set of rules for selecting MVPS ’cause, it’s all screwed up!

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    You’ve never seen a battle under the boards go a few ticks too long because the refs swallowed their whistles? It wasn’t premeditated in the sense that he looked back, gauged where to throw, then drilled Ron in the throat. Like you said, Ron caught Kobe with an elbow, too. When you have two guys fighting for position and possession, things happen. And maybe the refs waited a blow too long to call anything. I just don’t think that Kobe is protected from on high against any and all foul calls. They called what they did, Ron blew up (and was given latitude to do so), and then he took it a step too far. That’s how I saw it.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    and anyone else notice the similarities between the rockets/portland series and this series? Rockets taking away homecourt, then coming back in game 2, keeping it a close game throughout with the opposing team finally pulling away at the end thanks to a 40 pt performance by it’s star player and Yao being shut down? And although it wasn’t made a big deal, in that Game Przybilla threw some ‘bows too, he caught shane with one to the throat and gave Scola a shoulder hit, not as obvious as Fisher’s though.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Russ. I agree with most of your assessment.
    Although, I will correct myself and say that Artest didn’t “throw” and elbow at Kobe. He kind of pushed him with his elbow in the back of the neck. He was pushint with his forearm anyway, and when Kobe bent over, it slid up into his neck. I’m sure Artest didn’t mind that happening, but it’s not the same as throwing an elbow.
    I think Kobe gets some of the same protection Jordan got.
    Whereever that comes from, it exists.

  • Justin

    BEAN DA GOD!!!!

  • ace

    Russ,
    What you think of truthteller’s comments?

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I just think it’s one of those things where you don’t want to blow a play dead and before you know it things have gotten ugly. Bet things get called tighter in Game Three.

  • Michael

    Eboy is crazy. The Rockets will lose in 6. They are gaurding Kobe the same way the Spurs do. Thye just put shane on him one on one and have shane lead him to spots and put a hand in his face. Kobe plays great against that type of defense. He shot 53% agiasnt them for a reason. To stop Kobe you need to sworm him with two or three defenders. Against the SPurs last year Kobe took 9 freethrows in 5 games yet shot 53% in the games because they defended Kobe that way.

  • Michael

    @EBoy. The Celtics did not gaurd Kobe that way. They threw a number of guys at him. Kobe can shoot like this all playoffs if thats the way teams are gaoing to gaurd him.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Great final point. That’s probably what happened.
    But, we all know Ron Artest would not see it that way.

  • Michael

    Oh and as a huge Kobe fan, theres no doubt the guy is dirty. Watch him when he comes off screens, he’s throwing elbows the whole way.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I guess Kobe’s Game 1′s horrible shooting percentage qualifies as fantastic?

  • truthteller

    Russ,
    I don’t mind the game being called a bit tighter. Just let it end on the court. The NBA should stay out of it! That’s all I’m saying.

  • truthteller

    AllenP, Lebron gets the same treatment!

  • showmeyourwits

    This is laughable. After game 1, everyone was talking about how the Lakers were soft and wilt when their passing and jumpers fail when faced with the “tougher, physical” Rockets. Now when the Lakers get scrappy and exert their will, they’re dirty? Kobe throwing bows isn’t new. He did it against the C’s last year and got whistled nearly every time. Hell, he even bowed Battier in Game 1, and drew blood. He got whistled for that. The refs just missed it this time. Just like they missed Scola tugging LO’s jersey after hitting him in the head. Fish didn’t miss it though, putting Scola on his ass, but that was more of a message to the young guys that they can’t get punked like that.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    I love how Laker/Kobe posts get STUPID amounts of comments. People hate, but they can’t stay away. Moths to a flame.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Why do Kobe fans always bring Lebron up?…
    It’s like saying “But black people do it too!”

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    The NBA isn’t the only league that looks at missed calls after games and then fines or suspends players after the fact. The NFL is known for this.

  • ace

    Eboy, 32 points ain’t too bad. It really doesn’t matter what the percentage is. what was Jordan’s percentage in the ’96 NBA finals? Take it from me, you don’t really wanna know. But how many points did MJ average and most importantly, who won that series?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Just wondering, but who want to recieve a text message from Shane Battier? Oh well, time to enjoy my Powerade.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    showmeyourwits…Kobe’s elbow didnt draw blood against shane…that was shasha, so he sure didnt get whistled for that and neither was Sasha..how can you even get that confused?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    *who would want

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Sigh I’ll take the bait Allenp. It’s the same reason why Lebron fans bring Kobe up. And horrible analogy btw.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Also I love how at the end of the game Fish was in the locker room waiting for Kob, giving him dap. Ha ha….. the war has started.

  • Michael

    Horrible Shooting? He shot 45.7% it ain’t great but by no means is that horrible. I’m just going by history man, that type of defense has not worked against him.

  • tenorca

    My guess: League says Kobe’s elbow didn’t hit Artest in the neck, so he gets a fine and plays Game 3. I hope RonRon runs Kobe over in Houston.

  • truthteller

    AllenP, that’s like asking why Kobe haters bring up MJ’s name everytime Kobe’s name is brought up and vice-versa.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Just for the record:
    “It’s a physical game,” said Bryant, who grabbed seven rebounds. “I’m not trying to elbow somebody. That’s not what I do. That’s not how I play. If you get elbowed, you still have to keep you cool. I get elbowed all the time and I don’t go out there and lose my head. I don’t get disturbed by it. It actually excites me.”
    Umm, I call BS.

  • tenorca

    And to “showmeyourwits”: All I can say is, when I play, I have no problem with guys being aggressive boxing out and playing D in my face. But if somebody intentionally takes a swing at me, I think they’re a punk. That’s the difference. It’s “more physical,” but it’s also straight dirty.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    kobe killed battier in the same fashion he did brewer. Shane looked like he was close to pounding himself with a hammer the way kob was destroying him. play wit it.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Nobody going to comment on Kobe’s quote after Raja effed him up?

  • truthteller

    AllenP,
    Why don’t you help us out and give us his comments.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    to me it didn’t even looked like kobe touched ron with his elbow but that’s just me. I agree ron is the wrong dude to mess with though. play wit it.

  • showmeyourwits

    @RV You’re totally right. I guess I’m trippin’ on this Manny ish. My point though, is that Kobe always throws elbows especially when up against good defenders or defense. Sometimes he gets called, sometimes he doesn’t. Like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YbIpXxMm1M

  • vtrobot

    are sasha and scola related? the both have very similar looking shoe string head bands. kobe “didn’t hear” what ron was saying. yeah. “who’s raja bell? – post-clothesline. this is why so many people think kobe is a pr*ck and love to see him lose. i hope we get to see more of that soon. ron’s going to lose it soon.

  • showmeyourwits

    @tenorca Who took a swing last night?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    remind me, allenp.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    does anyone understand that kobe loves hate? that he kills under hate? that he will drop 40 on any defense even when triple teamed? hmmm…guess not. play wit it.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    I’ll post them again…
    “It’s a physical game,” said Bryant, who grabbed seven rebounds. “I’m not trying to elbow somebody. That’s not what I do. That’s not how I play. If you get elbowed, you still have to keep you cool. I get elbowed all the time and I don’t go out there and lose my head. I don’t get disturbed by it. It actually excites me.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    This is what he said after Raja clotheslined him and said it was because of the consistent elbows from Kobe.
    So, we have Kobe saying he doesn’t throw elbows
    We have a video that shows that’s a lie.
    And we have prior proof of players complaining about elbows.
    But, everybody ignore that evidence and concentrate on how Ron Artest is crazy….

  • Diesel

    wow DP how does Kobe’s a$$ taste?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    I don’t know but shane told me that it’s pretty sour. play wit it.

  • vmcb

    The Kobe Elbow strikes again! DP’s Kobe-coloured glasses are playing with his mind.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    Ron shouldn’t have been ejected. that’s a no-brainer.

  • vmcb

    Also, if Dwight got suspended for his elbow, Kobe should, too. You know, since the officiating/rules in the NBA are so consistant.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    That’s funny, because I don’t read it that way at all. The way I see it, Kobe’s quote implies that he doesn’t throw elbows on purpose (which may well be false), but flying elbows are just part of the game (which may well be true). To me, what he seems to be saying is everyone gets hit with elbows, including him. And you can’t go crazy when it happens, because it’s not going to stop anyway.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    yeah eboy, i can see the road to the championship right through them. Looks pretty damn clear to me. play wit it.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    vcmb: Kobe’s elbow was thrown during a fight for position underneath the basket. Dwight’s was thrown intentionally after the play was over. Big difference, IMO.

  • Diesel

    DP – Nobody was talking sh*t when Kobe got shut down in game one by Shane. Kobe will have to ball out of his mind 3 more times for them to win because the rest of the Lakers are SCURED. Rockets in 6.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Eboy has an alias?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    Exactly, you can’t let the emotions of the game get to you and make you so reactive. Ron has calmed down a lot, but dude still reacts to alot of stuff that he could just lay to the side. In the game, elbows will be thrown and bodies will be bruised. suck it up and keep it moving. but don’t do b*tch moves like skip to my louie did. play wit it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Diesel, for the record, Kobe didn’t get shut down in game 1. Granted, he didn’t have his best shooting game and wasn’t aggressive enough, but he still played the best out of all of the Lakers. No one else on the team stepped up in that game.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    I wasn’t talking sh*t because I wasn’t on the post up that day. I had a chemistry test to fail. play wit it.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Russ
    Kobe got hit with an “unintentional” elbow by Ron.
    He didn’t play it cool, he threw his own “intentional” elbow?
    So, he completely ignored his own advice and proved that his earlier comments about that not being his game were a lie.
    And that’s if we ignore that he was elbowing people in the face after he shot the ball until the league suspended him!
    Come on. Dude has a problem.

  • vmcb

    Russ, if the elbow was truely unintentional, then I agree that a suspension is not needed. However, Kobe has a history of this, and he’s had issues with Artest before. I certainly believe the elbow was on purpose. I am a Kobe hater, so I may very well be biased.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Dear Houston Rockets: Rick Adelmann coached the Kings in the late 90′s/early 2000′s. He will F**k up sooner or later. Game 3 hopefully.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Why the presumption that Ron’s elbow was unintentional? Was this seriously the first time two guys have ever exchanged elbows in the post? Have I been watching the same NBA as everyone else?

  • http://www.showmeyourwits.com showmeyourwits

    I would agree that Kobe didn’t get shut down, the rest of the Lakers did. Even in game 2, only 3 Lakers were in double figures. That won’t get it done on the road.

  • http://danchamb.com.br Lz – Cphfinest3

    Didn’t read all the posts. Stopped after I almost died laughing when The Seed (who’s a die hard Kobe disiple) called Ron Ron fake. Please call a doctor, because there needs to be prescribed a reality check for The Seed right away. Fish’s move was very low he most def should be suspended. If they suspend Ron Ron they have to suspend Kobe as well for being the instigator throwing that elbow. This series is going down the wire, Rockets in 7.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Is it safe to say that if Ron doesn’t completely lose his mind that we’re not even discussing that play today?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    vmcb, I agree you are biased.

  • http://danchamb.com.br Lz – Cphfinest3

    Russ is right on with his take on the elbows.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    DP…it wasn’t me. Play with me?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    probably so…nobody would have even thought of it because espn wouldn’t have even showed the tape of the play. play wit it.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    haha eboy, I don’t think i would play with you. I’ve already done that and I don’t remember the results but it didn’t go my way I don’t think…play wit it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You’re my Battierbit*h!!!!!! :)

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Russ
    That is safe to say. Cause we wouldn’t have known it happened.
    Cause the refs sure weren’t going to call a foul on Kobe for throwing an elbow.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m sure it would have been mentioned Russ, just with not as much analysis. It is Kobe, after all.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Only one game on tonight? So the Nugs/Mavs game is on Friday? Boooooo….

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    All your arguments are based on the presumption that Kobe is protected from on high. You’re entitled to that opinion, of course, but seeing that I don’t share that view, I’m going to take my leave of this.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jamesgoesham JamesgoesHam

    eboy thats freakin stupid kobe can get in the lane at will if he wanted to. there were plenty of plays where he had the first step on battier n instead of driving he decided to drain a pull-up. the lakers are gonna be okay on offense. defense is what they need to step on. ron artest should NOT be droppin 28 or 30 on a team thats supposed to win the finals

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Best Artest quote ever? From Johnny Ludden’s column on Yahoo!: “‘I remember when I used to play back home in the neighborhood, there was always games like that,’ Artest said afterward, delivering another memorable history lesson of life in the Queensbridge projects. ‘One of my friends was playing … and it was so competitive they broke a piece of leg from a table and they threw it and it went right through his heart and he died, right on the court.’”

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Smart move Russ.

  • http://jakeandamir.com tealish

    It will be a travesty if the L suspends Artest after his unjustified ejection last night. Kobe should be suspended, but it’s a tough call. If he’s not, I’m cool with that too. Beats me how he drew a foul on Artest by throwing an elbow to dude’s throat though. And you wonder why Ron showed a little crazy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    JamesgoesHam, so when you say Kobe can get in the lane at will are you talking about against the Rockets or any team in general….’cause if that was that case he’d have 4 rings instead of being stuck on three.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Was Ron even being discussed as a suspension for the next game?

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Yeah, I can’t imagine why Ron would be suspended.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    And I thought the comments on SLAM were crazy: http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/14907244

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    That Ron quote in unreal. As in didn’t actually happen. I don’t think its possible to throw a piece of wood hard enough to actually puncture the chest cavity. Reagrdless, Ron is real.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    in = is

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Q-BORO So thoro.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    I don’t remember writing that Kobe was protected from “on high.”
    I wrote that Kobe gets treated differently because his Kobe.
    Like Lebron gets treated differently.
    Like Wade gets treated differently.
    Like Iverson used to get treated differently.
    I thought this was an accepted fact about life in the NBA.
    Kobe threw an elbow, the refs appeared to have seen it, they let it slide.
    The End.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Russ, is it safe to say that if Ron doesn’t get thrown out no one would be saying today he “lost his mind”…..i still think that’s overreacting, he went up to kobe, said a few words..did Eddie house and Rafer lose their mind too?? did walton and scola ALMOST lose their mind?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    DP did you really mean what you said about Kobe’s elbow? That it didnt’ even touch Ron? Or was that a typo?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Obviously Fish did.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    ciolk, i think they misquoted him, i’ll have to listen to the interview again i dont think it he said that exactly..

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    everyone said bynum was the missing piece, they didnt know he would be the missing piece.

  • Texas

    I dislike kobe because he seems(is) like a ashole.
    yells at his team mates like they some punks n they just have to take it. have you seen him go to the bench after a bad play n the towel boy gives him his towel he throws the towel at the boy back. Ashole. Selfish punk it seems that now he just wants to win ro stick it to shaq, not for the love of the game. Lakers have no team chemistry, kobe wont allow it, they are scared to make a mistake and get treated like children on national tv.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    ah nevermind, he did say exactly that, he made a stabbing motion though when he was talking so that’s what got me confused, i think he meant they stabbed him not that they threw it like a spear LOL..

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    ron just said a leg off a table, it could have been metal, and very sharp.

  • Texas

    wtf happen to ron. He shouldnt make a scene.He’s fukin ron, mann.
    Just try to get him back in the next play.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Walton needs to do a better job of avoiding questions, when asked about both incidents, he states he didnt see them, yet was facing the action both times…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    i’m more interested in why there was a table on around the court, ron seems to play on courts with poles and tables…

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    rv, not everyone plays in squeaky clean “health clubs”

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Thats how it goes in the QB!

  • Texas

    I just read 318 comments.
    It took me 2:50 minutes.
    Thanks for making my afternoon at work go by really quick. :)
    Kobe = no love for the game but pride

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Tarzan, i hope you don’t mean me…anyway, i was mostly kidding, i can understand a table being around the area, but he played on a court with a random pole sticking out on the middle of the court…that’s pretty crazy regardless of where you come from, most others would have looked for another court, doesnt have to be in a “squeaky clean health club”.

  • truthteller

    Diesel! Are you crazy? You probably didn’t watch that game! Kobe got shut down?! Kobe had 32 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals! And he got shut down? Come on now!!!!

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    rv, one of the courts i play at has two poles just out of bounds at midcourt, there used to be a tennis net there, and that siht is dangerous! i once saw someone get racked badly.

  • Kevin

    The Kobe/Ron incident boils down to this simple equation:
    Kobe = Safe Negro
    >>>
    Artest = Non-safe Negro

    Safe Negro wins all the time. Just the way it is.

  • Diesel

    truthteller – he had to take 31 shots to get those 32 points. That’s pretty good D.

  • truthteller

    Diesel, who cares how many shots he had to take?

  • Diesel

    Are you serious?

  • Diesel

    Google “basketball” and see if there’s a section about fundamentals of basketball and how a team wins a game.

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp
  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    WTF are you talking about Kevin?

  • http://effyou@heythere.com Allenp

    Kobe ain’t really a “Safe Negro” any longer.
    You don’t get accused of r(aping a white woman and get to retain your “safe” status.
    He just aint as dangerous as Ron Artest.
    Martin Luther King wasn’t a “safe negro” but he wasn’t considered as dangerous as Malcolm X.
    And no, I’m not saying Kobe and Artest resemble King and Malcolm in anyway, just making a point about degrees of danger.

  • jumpman3224

    Love him or hate him this is why Kobe gets the cover so often…330+ comments in less than a day!

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Wow, first we compared Kobe to Hitler, and now we get the mention of Kobe and MLK and Malcom in the same breath. I know you aren’t comparing. It’s just funny the sh$% that’s being said surrounding this guy that 80% of ya’ll hate.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Actually the Kobe/Hitler comparison came from a commenter misreading a staement madeby myles claiming (incorrectly)that people would root against the Lakers even if they were matched up against a starting five of hitler, Pol Pot, willie Lynch etc…
    I hear you though.

  • frank

    YEAH!!!!! the words Nova Scotia were mentioned in a SLAM article…. Is there any other nova scotians on SLAM that I am not aware of?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    update: Adelman says he has talked with Wafer, dealt with it and team has moved on. Wafer will be available Friday night.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    and i’m hearing radio stations are saying Fisher is out for game 3…

  • Diesel

    Yeah – Fisher and Alston both got 1 game suspensions.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jamesgoesham JamesgoesHam

    Eboy lebron can get in the lane at will and he has no rings. so i dont think that determines championships…sorry

  • jumpman3224

    The Rockets are the only team in the L that have two players who can somewhat keep Kobe out of the lane. I don’t see it happening the same way if the Lakers move on. Also Im fine with a player only scoring 6 points in the paint if he is that hot from everywhere else.

    As far as people referring to KB24 as a dirty player, some people said the same thing about MJ. Im not saying Kobe is the next or better or anything…i’m just saying.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    wow. Bron just hit a 3 from two steps inside the halfcourt line, then stood there swinging his arms with a ” a’int no thing like a chicken wing on a string” look on his face. I got goosebumps. Cleveland is steamrolling Atlanta.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    davidR Posted: May.7 at 9:55 am
    i dunno fred, fish seems like a pretty strong guy. he basically threw all his body weight at scola. not sure how luis is supposed to counter that. oh and where did fish’s scratch on the head come from?
    ________________________________________________
    Projectiles from the impact…

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Andrew Bynum had the same number of points as me last game. Does that mean the Lakers need me to get over the hump?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Jordon was dirty… If he needed to raise the level.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    I can’t believe I spelt MJ’s surname incorrectly… I think I need Derek Fisher to try and break through my screen at the top of the key…before I even get there, and have RonRon breathing his minty breath into my face.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Anton Posted: May.7 at 10:59 pm
    Andrew Bynum had the same number of points as me last game. Does that mean the Lakers need me to get over the hump?
    ________________________________________________
    Yeah, if you were an injured 7′ footer, You’d be sitting in a chair also….
    not like Phil Jackson’s ‘HIGH LEATHER CHAIR OF ULTIMATE AUTHORITY’ though… Hows that chair for sending a message?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    frank Posted: May.7 at 5:49 pm
    YEAH!!!!! the words Nova Scotia were mentioned in a SLAM article…. Is there any other nova scotians on SLAM that I am not aware of?
    ________________________________________________
    where?

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    i love how everyone has their own interpretations of the incidents happened in the rockets/lakers game, even though we are all watching the same game and same replays. people project what they want to see on the actual actions, even to irrational extremes. this goes for both sides on the comment section here. i suppose SLAM is loving the extra traffic.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    @Allenp: good find on the article. i was thinking someone HAS to validate that awesome artest story. one thing though, the kid who died was FROM Queens, but the incident happened at Niagara Falls Boys and Girls Club. Last I checked, Niagara Falls is about 6-7 hours away from NYC and i don’t think that’s exactly “the hood”.

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    did you guys see the reverse angle of kobe/ron?
    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4149491
    go to the 20 second mark. artest over did it lmao.

    here’s a still: http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0507/nba_vid_kobeelbow_300.jpg

  • jumpman3224

    In anticipation for tonight’s game, I’ve been reviewing some of the comments on here again. Some contributors have been pointing to Kobe’s poor shooting in game one…he shot over 45 %. That’s not setting the world on fire, but it’s not horrible by any standards (higher than billups entire post-season percentage for example). Would like to see him get to the line more though. Should be interesting though.

  • frank

    @ dacre: nova scotia is a small province in eastern canada.its right above maine. its also probably the coolest place ever.

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