NBAers React to Osama’s Death

I read somewhere that the US couldn’t find a country that was willing to bury in their land and no way in hell were they going to bury him in the US or Afghan. So they decided to turn dude into chum and tossed him overboard.

Clinton is responsible for thousands of murdered Serbian civilians. A religious war hundreds of years old and that uneducated adulterer decided he was going to decide who was right and who was wrong. Not based on facts, but on which side better fit into his political agenda. It would be wonderful if all Americans actually watched news from countries around the world so they could get an unbiased view of what’s really going on in the world.

All good philo I thought you were just ignoring it. — Taylor that makes perfect sense if your right, but that’s not what they are saying publicly, they are saying they are worried about a shrine. which is absurd, you don’t ever have to tell anyone that its even Osama Bin Laden. You don’t have to tell anyone where its buried. If you literally can’t bury him anywhere because nobody will let you then fine, say that, but it still doesn’t explain why they used fedex to get rid of him so fast, or why they lied in the first place.

Diesel: I hope you weren’t referring to me because I agree that the bombing of Yugoslavia was extremely f*cked up, and one of the many reasons why American foreign policy is an abomination.

Of all the things for them to say, “we don’t have the body anymore because we were trying to make a small % of a community he was excommunicated from (yes the Muslims ex communicated him from their religion, thus revoking his status as a muslim) happy?” He was disowned by his family, there is literally nobody but fellow terrorists/al queada to criticize whatever it is we choose to do with the body. — the explanation is an excuse, like my dog ate my homework, the government wants to keep something about this secret, their plan isn’t over, its not like we kill Osama and that’s it, there is more to this. Honestly I think being truthful and straightforward are the least of their concerns, and its sad that people actually believe what they are being told regarding the circumstances of this event. He is surely dead, and that’s the only fact that is indisputable in this story.

surprised Lebron didn’t need Wade and Bosh to help him type his kiss ass remarks.

I. Wish. I. Could. Speak. On. Clinton. Without. Being. Censored. Thanks.

Nope. I’m using my own words. If I could, I’d DM you what I said on Twitter. Can’t from work though.

damn that’s what I was about to say. My work has a cap on FB but not Twitter.

Enigmatic Posted: May.2 at 1:32 pm
Oh, and some of y’all on here might already know how I previously felt about Obama.
I’m glad to say I was deeply wrong about him, he has my upmost respect now, and in short, that dude is Unf★ckwitable™.
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But yeah, I can’t stand Clinton. That’s for sure. Oh, and I’m sorry, but you lying if you say you don’t prefer one over the other though, based on your previous posts I would guess you stay on that “my president is black” sh*t!

Don’t even know if this will post cause it’s about the “C” word, but where he faltered in the “Y” word is that he didn’t have his peeps targest strictly military compounds, thus the result was too many civilian casualties.

lol Obama fits into a ton of conspiracies, all entertaining, all highly illogical. i personally like that he is according to some looney tunes a CIA Alien/Human Hybrid raised to be president/antichrist. That’s the most ridiculous thing i’ve read that I have seen vehemently supported. But I try and at least listen to every story I come across I like to have as much information as I can get even if its completely crazy it allows me to see from another perspective kind of….

So nbk, if someone says that someone else is not part of a religion anymore, they can’t practice a form of said religion, anyway? If you belong to a church, and they expel you, do you now not believe in the teaching of said religion, according to one’s interpretation?
And, there were other “Muslims” who died for this man. Do they make up a % of a “Muslim” population?

Philosopher your trying to argue that we are taking Bin Laden’s beliefs into account. We aren’t he’s dead, his opinion on what we do with his body is irrelevant. Its the opinion of the Islamic/Muslim community that would matter, except he is not a part of it anymore. And those from that community that do care, are outright saying that he was improperly buried (actually its called disposed of because that’s what he was). What exactly are you arguing? I know you understand that something is being hidden I have been talking to you about related stuff off and on for a couple years, what are you saying about his burial? that it makes sense?

Teddy
If you knew that you could destroy a village and kill ten thousand residents to prevent on of those residents from becoming Adolpf Hitler, would you do it?
I’m not going to say that there is never a reason for non-combatants to die. But, I also recognize that means that EVERYBODY is a target. There are no off limits people in the world.
America doesn’t play by those rules. Sure, we claim to try to avoid civilian deaths, but in reality if they have to die to accomplish an objective, then they have to die. That’s how the world has worked forever.
People rationalize the choices they make, and try to present them in the best possible light.
If Americans want things to change, we’d have to change the taxes we pay, the cars we drive, the homes we live in, the jobs we work. Basically, we’d have to change our entire lives. That ain’t likely to happen by choice.

What happened on 9/11 was abhorrent, and Osama Bin Laden was undoubtedly a terrible man. But before we engage in the cringe-inducing flag waving and celebrations over the death of a human being, let’s remember a few things: First, that a great deal of the hatred and aggression directed towards the U.S. is due to U.S. foreign policy and our government’s actions abroad, and that this aggression won’t end until our government and our people can change their way of thinking and perceiving the rest of the world. Secondly, that our own government has condemned displays of nationalism in foreign countries, the kinds of displays we’re seeing in the streets U.S. cities right now. And thirdly, and perhaps most importantly: Though our nation experienced a great deal of pain and suffering due to the deaths of 3000 innocent civilians on 9/11, our own government has visited exponentially more pain and suffering on the innocent people of foreign countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. Just some things I think we should keep in mind.

I applaud guys like CDR and Jason Richardson, if only because they’re willing to step back for a moment and consider every angle of events like this.

I think if we are ok to kill him and search for 10 years I doubt we care what anyone who hid him wants us to do. Also he was disowned from his family. It’s pretty clear we did why was convenient to me

haha @ LO

nbk:
What about the relatives of bin Laden who got on the plane after 9/11? Were they disowned, too?

@Lee, the US Governments name is mud over here in NZ, for those that have a reasonable knowledge of 20th century history (East timor, Chile, Panama, Iraq etc etc. But the people are still loved.

While I can’t really say I feel one way or another about that nutcase allegedly being dead, I find it amazing how people really think terrorism is the reason we’re at war. We’re at war for oil and power in that region. Period. Osama has almost nothing to do with why we’re at war. Case in point, it took all of five years for Iraq’s oil fields to publicly be opened for bidding by the Western oil companies. A lot of people get rich off of war. It’s too bad people are so brainwashed by these politicians. As someone who lost a relative and a neighbor on 9/11– and actually watched the 1st tower fall from my rooftop in Brooklyn–I’ll still NEVER support imperialist decisions by this government. Blaming our oil grab on 9/11 cheapens the deaths of the innocent lives lost on that day. It’s dispicable, just like the terrorists.

Co-sign Lee.

@ Allen: I’m not so sure that that’s a realistic scenario. But no, I would not kill 10,000 innocent people to eliminate 1 Hitler. Because people like Hitler could have/can be prevented without killing thousands of innocent civilians (though it ended up being millions). Maybe that’s not how the world works now, but it’s common sense.
I mean, Hitler himself owes a big “thank-you” to the rest of Europe and the US for creating the conditions that led to his being elected. If the United States/Europe hadn’t passed the Treaty of Versailles and humiliated the Germans post-WWI by extorting insane amounts of money in war reparations, demilitarizing them, and forcing them to accept sole blame for WWI (which is stupid because every country was to blame for that mess…), then there wouldn’t have been a “need” for a Hitler.
And if the British hadn’t at first sympathized with Hitler and allowed him to conquer parts of Czechoslovakia, he wouldn’t have been able to build such a strong empire.

I agree that there’s an objective, and that most countries will do anything to accomplish that objective, but that objective is far from a humanitarian one.
Back to the Hitler example: Hitler only did to Europe what the other European countries had been doing for centuries to all non-white populations of the world. Had Hitler staked a claim in Africa, or committed mass genocide of American Indians, nobody would have cared. The largely anti-Semitic Europeans/Americans at that time didn’t even care that Hitler was mass murdering Jews, and they sure as heck wouldn’t have saved them had Hitler kept to his own instead of trying to take over all of Europe Napoleon-style.
Most countries actually refused to offer refuge to Jews fleeing the Holocaust… CANADA turned down a huge boatload of Jewish survivors and sent them back to who knows where… These are people they were supposed to be saving, who had no other place to go, and they were turned away. WTF is that?!
Point is, we can’t use the humanitarian card anymore. And the national security card? We wouldn’t need to use that either, if America/Europe/whatever other countries would STOP TRAINING people in foreign countries to fight against their own people…

Just putting it out there that I have a tonne of respect for people who risk their lives for their country (ie. Enigmatic). Not trying to diss anyone there.