Tuesday, February 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pm  |  39 responses

The Week That Was

Bracketology, Oregon State and Jason Thompson’s little brother.

by Cub Buenning

With Ol’ Man Winter bearing down on the northeast, Cub Scouts feels much closer to the NCAA Tournament than normal. Mired in a spell of mild, sunny and dry weather, my Colorado days and nights have the feel of spring time rather than the sometimes harsh late winter in the Rocky Mountains. With more of the white stuff certainly not far away, it is all a bit maddening. I guess this is the last week in February.

In honor of the impending national collegiate basketball tournament I shall step away from the standard “Bracketology” that is being done around the country and just give facts (and maybe an opinion or two) on some of the outer-fringe conferences. I will spotlight a different conference over the next couple of weeks. In truth, the actual number of viable “at large” bids is actually dependent on the number of conferences that might have upsets in their respective conference tournaments, forcing a potential “qualified” squad to take one of the aforementioned “at large” spots. Nine conferences appear to fall into this category: Horizon (Butler), Southern (Davidson), WAC (Utah St.), C-USA (Memphis), Big Sky (Weber St.), MAAC (Siena), CAA (VCU), MVC (Creighton) and the MAC (Buffalo) could in theory ruin the hopes of the Marylands, Notre Dames and Georgetowns of the college landscape.

That being said, as we inch closer to Selection Sunday, I will drop my thoughts on whether the BCS bubble teams should be relevant or in the NIT.

HEADLINE: You Knew We’d Start Here, Right?

For a league that I feel could match-up (top five) with a conference like the SEC, the Mountain West gets little national attention. Unfortunately, in the time we live in, that means, “ESPN DOESN’T BROADCAST THEIR GAMES.” Owners of their own network and a little side deal with CBS College Sports, the nine-team league—comprised mainly of schools that spent the previous century inhabiting the WAC—has become more than relevant in all areas of sport. In addition to the storm caused last year by Utah’s undefeated football team, “the U” has the distinction of being the only institution in D-1 history to have the No. 1 pick in the NFL and NBA drafts (2005 with Andrew Bogut and Alex Smith). Professional production for these two aside, this year’s MWC basketball action has been arguably its best in league history and one of the more compelling conference races in the entire nation.

I have been pushing all year for five teams to be invited into the tournament, but four is probably a more realistic number. I will jump the following standings to say that I will be cheering for New Mexico (not my regular squad) to win the conference tournament.

Utah (10-2, 19-7)
With an RPI of 10 and wins over Gonzaga, Weber St.,and LSU by 30, the Utes have to be noticed despite going just 9-5 before conference play. As their gaudy in-league record would suggest, they have also beaten BYU, UNM, and SDSU.

BYU (8-4, 20-6)
The nation’s top FG% shooting team has been dynamite at times and “just not enough” at others. Their wins out of conference (Weber St and Utah St.) might not be as good as their losses (Arizona St. by 2, had Wake beat before losing Wadeat end). They have only managed to beat SDSU and UNM of note in league, but the Cougars have a huge week coming up! (This is my squad.)

San Diego St (8-4, 18-7)
The Aztecs prepared themselves for league play by playing a relatively light schedule. Yes, there were some tougher opponents, but they did not manage to defeat any of those foes. When they went deeper into the year and beat Utah, UNM, and UNLV, I became interested. SDSU needs a strong finish and a possible Tourney Final to get that elusive “at large” bid.

New Mexico (8-4, 17-10)
This is probably the one of the top five that might be left out in a couple weeks. Like the Utes, the Lobos had an up-and-down start to their season and were forced into playing an almost “spotless” conference run. Utah basically has, but the Lobos have not. They have played bravely for Head Coach Steve Alford and the Lobo-crazed city of Albuquerque, but their wins over Mississippi, Oral Roberts, BYU and UNLV just might mandate them winning a conference tournament. Although that mid-season sweep over the Aggies of State always tastes sweet.

UNLV (8-5, 20-7)
For a team that has beaten Arizona and punked Louisville in Freedom Hall (even without their best player, Wink Adams), to have already lost five games in MWC play has to be considered, disappointing. They do have some nice wins over UNM, Utah, and have already taken two from BYU so their number of quality wins should more than put them high on “that list” in a couple weeks. Also, never underestimate the ability of a coach that has “been there before.” Lon Kruger has led teams from all over the country to deep tournament runs.

*****

This week is a big on up here on the Mountain. The next two nights see four of the five “heavies” facing off against one another (BYU @ SDSU and UNLV @ Utah). The week is capped on Saturday with Utah traveling south on I-15 to Provo to go for the season sweep over BYU. With every win crucial for tourney resumes, these three loom especially large. If you don’t have the Mountain or have just seen highlights of these teams, trust me; pick one (or even two) of them into your Sweet 16.

Robinson & ObamaTEAMS OF THE WEEK: Presidential Mojo

Oregon St. — I mean, c’mon! This is a joke, right? The Beavers of Corvallis did not win a single, solitary game last year in the PAC-10 and have currently put together three straight wins after a sweep of the NoCal teams. The double-dip was punctuated by a double-digit win over tournament-bound Cal. Head Coach Craig Robinson is surely dipping into the family mojo (he is, of course, Michelle Obama’s brother) and in his first season, he has led OSU to 7-8 in-conference and .500 overall at 13-13. After losing their first four games of the year, the Beavers beat a very game Nebraska side and have streaked their way ever since (Winning-2 streaks of four-in-a-row, 1 of three-in-a-row; Losing-2 of four-in-a-row, 1 of three-in-a-row, hence the record, I guess.) The are paced by 6-2 sophomore guard, Calvin Haynes, but can put forth seven guys that score at least 6/game. This extremely young team now “wears the pants” in their inter-state grudge match with Oregon and they finish down in Eugene before traveling even further south for a pair in L.A. with USC and UCLA.

Creighton — Eight wins in a row has suddenly put the Blue Jays back atop The Valley and owners of 23 wins. Dana Altman’s team is led by a pair of great names in senior guard Booker Woodfox and his lanky sophomore backcourt mate, P’Allen Stinnett. Wins over Saint Josephs, Dayton, and New Mexico coupled with the potential for 28 pre-tournament wins just might too much for the committee to ignore if they don’t procure the automatic bid.

Honorable Mention: Pittsburgh, Kansas, Siena, Florida State

SCOUTING CORNER: Guess Who?

This relative newbie to the game of basketball is a long, active post-player. His offensive game is obviously progressing as evidence by the stark contrast between where he was when he first set foot on campus to where he was by this past spring’s conference tournament. That progression has continued into his junior season where he has become one the conference’s most dominant big men.

This player, however, is still a project; to be sure, as he has played just over five years of organized ball. In the post, this guy relies heavily on a nice little hook but he is also an above average passer. Over the last two seasons, I have witnessed several occasions where this big man passed out of the post after scoring on the proceeding possession. His unselfishness can almost be to a fault, but it can also be chalked up to inexperience. It would be good to see this guy develop more into a dominating defensive presence, as his flashes of brilliance on that end of the court have been far too inconsistent.

In this season alone, this guy has moved into the mid-first-round and could be lottery if his progression follows the slope it is currently riding. If he stays for his final year he will be a lottery pick for the ’10 draft.

PLAYER ALERT: Rider, It’s a Family Affair

Ryan ThompsonMost of you should be familiar with Jason Thompson of the Sacramento Kings. The ’08 lottery-pick tortured MAC opponents for years with his combination of size and talent. If you saw any of his last two years of college ball in Jersey, you knew of his younger and slightly shorter brother, Ryan Thompson. The 6-6, 210-pound junior blossomed last year right under big bro’s beautiful pedal, becoming a 15/6/3.5/2s-kinda-guy who somehow also shot 54 percent from the floor and 43 percent from long-range.

This year, not much has changed (the Broncs have dipped slightly) and Ryan has picked up some of the slack duplicating his “hustle board” stats while getting almost another three points a night. Silky smooth and efficient, Ryan is consistent and despite going for over 25 points, five times this year, he has never taken more than 20 shots in a game. His rebounding is strong for a projected 2-guard and he has a nice sense about his play-making skills. Rider Head Coach Tommy Dempsey’s move of Thompson to the point in January (to spark the team) will go far to helping him (im)prove those aspects of his game. Thompson’s athletic ability grades out and whether he can garner the professional attention his brother did last spring is still to be determined. From the half-dozen or so viewings I have had, I have always left impressed. That said, he should play out his college eligibility for the best eventual professional opportunity.

GAMES — THE WEEK THAT WILL BE: (All times ET)

Tuesday
ESPN has a solid doubleheader tonight starting with Penn St. in Columbus to play Ohio St. Both teams are in need of wins, one (OSU) because of recent poor play and the other (PSU) because of good play that has reinserted the Nittany Lions into the conversation.

Immediately following is an SEC match-up between two tournament teams in LSU and Florida. This might be the last time I mention, Nick Calathes; but probably not.

BYU and San Diego State meet in Southern California to make some last minute statements in the Mountain West. The game tips on the Mountain at 10:30.

Wednesday
ESPN gets two days right with another solid double-header starting with UConn in beer country to take on Marquette and in the second game, the suddenly resurgent Maryland Terrapins (wins over UNC will do that for you) look to extract some revenge for that pounding they endured at Cameron earlier this year. Much respect must be given to Maryland’s Venezuelan magician, Greivis Vasquez for his ridiculous triple-double in their win over UNC.

The Mountain gets more love with a great game in the SLC between UNLV and the Utah Utes.

Thursday
The Big Ten Network has a solid 7 p.m. game with the Golden Gophers of Minnesota in Champaign to take on Illinois, who is fresh off an impressive road win at Ohio St.

I will ignore most of ESPN’s programming tonight other than two games that stand out. First is the second of their double-header when Memphis heads south to take on UAB. The Blazers (19-8, 9-3) are in a good position to be considered for an at-large bid and a win (that would snap Memphis’ unbelievable 54-game conference win streak) over the Tigers would be a nice piece on their resume.

I also have to mention a chance to not only see Gonzaga again, but to check out Santa Clara (and a Cub Scouts Player Alert mention) big-man John Bryant. The Zags and Broncos tangle at 11 p.m. on ESPN2.

Saturday
CBS takes weekend center stage as they prepare to host the NCAA Tournament. (And NBC has the Match-Play which not only will have the return of Tiger Woods, but is golf’s version of the NCAA Tournament, complete with 64 players, BYU Utahone winner. I’ll be watching a lot of game this weekend. Basketball DVRs nicely. A doubleheader starts at 2 p.m. with a desperate Notre Dame in Storrs to face UConn, followed by LSU in Lexington to take on the Kentucky Wildcats.

3 p.m. on FSN has Arizona in the Emerald City to face Washington.

4 p.m on ESPN has another big game for Ohio St. as they travel to Indiana to take on Purdue.

5 p.m. on CBS College Sports has the huge Beehive State battle with Utah on the road at BYU.

9 p.m on ESPN has the Game Day Crew in Berkeley to see UCLA face the Cal Bears.

Sunday
CBS is at it again with another double-dip starting at 2 p.m. with rivals Missouri crossing the border to play Kansas, followed by Michigan St. at Illinois.

I need suggestions for conferences you’d like me to break down before the tournament starts. Enjoy the games!

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    great job mentioning most of the mid major at larges we spoke about through e-mail during bracket buster weekend. For your guess who I think I know, but I wont ruin it in the first comments haha. Also, this week should be a doozy for college ball! For conferences I want you to break down (outside of the obvious big east/acc… how about the PAC10, BIG12, possibly even the WCC

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Jordan Hill?

  • chronically_ill

    Hey Cub, your guy is Jordan Hill!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    Hill is correct. He has made such huge strides even from last year.
    Justin, Big12 and Pac-10, for sure

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    cub, how far do you think the jayhawks will make it in the ncaa? elite eight? farther?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    Tarzan, I look at the ‘Hawks much differently now than I did a month ago.
    Wished Blake could have played last night to give us a better “measuring stick” on KU.
    16 yes, 8 maybe.
    In the end, though, much is determined through seeding/location/ind’l match-ups.
    Does the 60 mins played by OU, sans-blake prove his value?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    Tarzan, i dont know about Cub’s view, but they should get to the sweet sixteen. I don’t personally feel they can get much farther. The only true constant is Sherron Collins’ scoring & Cole Aldrich’s rebounding- Cole doesn’t always produce offensively & Sherron can have days where he turns it over too much. Tyshawn Taylor is without a doubt the X factor here. As a freshman, a lot of the deciding factor of how far they can go will be based off of him. This isn’t a year for a KU elite 8/final 4 appearance, I find.

  • BigWalt206

    Cub, lets not forget the bigger showdown for Washington on thursday UW vs. ASU…but it may only be on FSN NW…huge game for the Dawgs!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    BigWalt, UW/ASU is a good matchup, for sure. Although, I think that losing to UCLA hurt their chances of getting the PAC10 title & James Harden has his swagger back…In short, I feel the Sun Devils will be victorious!

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    yea, having sooooo many freshmen makes me really nervous, but it can be done

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    It can be, that’s true. I assume we are still talking KU here Tarzan, but here’s the issue. KU’s best shooter and other starting guard is Brady Morningstar…Basically, he can shoot spot up threes, play zero defense, and has not been battle tested in the NCAA tournament. Aldrich and Collins are, but their 3rd best player down to every single rotation player have ZERO NCAA experience.

  • chronically_ill

    Justin, I agree completely. It dosent seem like Sherron Collins’ game has progressed at all. This should have been the year where he took complete ownership of the team, since he’s the upperclassman on a squad full of young’uns and especially since he dosent have to split time with Chalmers. But it dosent seem like he’s been able to, since his decision making is so shaky. Still, gotta give him props for hitting some HUGE shots at the end of the Oklahoma game.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    His shooting from 3 HAS improved, his stroke is much smoother, the issue is his basketball IQ is the same, as is his court vision.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    CIll, have you watched KU this year?
    Collins has done just what you said he hasn’t.
    This team had five guys DRAFTED last year and they are somehow in the discussion for a long tourney run!?!?

    That’s because of Sheron

    Justin, how did we differ? I think S16, like you…..

  • http://mlucas.com lucas

    jason thompson is nice and his brother too

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    nonono, Cub, I wrote that comment before I saw yours, when I wrote the comment yours hadn’t appeared yet. Wasn’t saying we disagreed at all, I was writing that comment before I saw yours, hence the “I don’t know what cub thinks” type thing.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Lotta great action last week. Atleast for the squads I root for.
    Duke looking great against Wake Forest, Greviez Vasquez going off aganist UNC, and last night Loiusville holding it down.

  • BigWalt206

    Justin, I don’t think it hurt our chances at all seeing as how we are still #1 in the PAC-10 (controlling our own destiny for the regular season title) and have already beat ASU by 13 in their own gym this season, a game in which James Harden had 15pts 5ast and 3stl in 39mins of play. Is it possible that you are with the rest of the country in refusing to believe that Washington basketball exists? Yes I am a homer, I’ll admit that, however I have no problem admitting when our teams suck (anyone watched sports in Seattle in the last 12 months?) but I continually see people en masse try to ignore the Huskies. Sure we lost @ UCLA…How’d they do in our gym? Exactly (that would be a 11pt UW victory for those who don’t know). These things are to be expected in the preeminent conference in college sports. But the Dawgs are weathering the storm (that is the PAC-10 schedule) this year and are looking much tougher than anyone outside the 206 predicted. I say its time for people to stop ignoring/hating on the Dawgs. But don’t worry, I never expect my teams to get any respect, just part of being a Seattle fan.

    Griffey for President!!! Hopefully people will forget his terrible choice of a running mate in 96…Lil Penny was right about that moose being a liability.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    BigWalt, you’ve got to be kidding me…I love the state of Washington hoops, as well as Gonzaga…I have family in Spokane, family in Seattle. Nuh uh, that one’s not going to fly at all! I have said on three different occasions that Isaiah Thomas is the most underrated freshman talent in the country. And I know the score with ASU losing to WASH at home, I also know that I said Harden has his groove back. Seriously though, I said since week 4 of the regular season that Washington was one of the top 3 in the conference. They are better than most teams in the conference bar UCLA (and I hate the Bruins by the way). I just don’t think they will win this game! Also, Washington would lose their lead on the PAC10 if Arizona State wins. The issue with Washington is that they are 2-3 against the AP TOP 25. Arizona State is 2-1

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    by the way BigWalt, much love on your PAC10 knowledge.

  • chronically_ill

    Hey Cub, KU definitely would not be in the mix if it wasnt for Collins and his younger teammates definitely do defer to him, especially at the end of games. But I still feel like he could be a better leader if he improved his decisionmaking.

    Big Walt, U-Dub is for real. Isaiah Thomas is the sh*t! It’s definitely gonna be fun watching Harden and Thomas try to outscore each other (even though they’re probably not going to be defending each other)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    I gave Washington little love preseason but have admitted the err of my way on several ocassions since.
    Isaiah was even my player alert a couple weeks back.

    Love the Griffey for Prez mention. Classic.

  • chronically_ill

    ciolkstar, that win over UNC was like a lifeboat for Maryland’s tourney chances. Who saw it coming? Especially since they got blasted by North Carolina just a few weeks earlier (not to mention that beatdown they got from Duke). Hell, they even lost to Morgan State! Still, do you think the Terrapins have enough to make it to the Big Dance?

  • BigWalt206

    yes we did lose to Kansas and Florida in the early season before the team gelled…since then we only lost to UCLA in LA (as far as the top 25 goes)…But we have beaten both UCLA and ASU already and only lost one home game this year (a triple overtime thriller to Cal which we should have put away much earlier). So what is it that you know that I don’t? Because I know that RomarVille gets straight nuts on gamedays. Also I loved the top 25 stat… particularly because it makes the fact that ASU lost on the road to Baylor irrelevant.
    Oh and I purposely said SEATTLE sports…Gonzaga fans are the worst, the sense of smugness is unbelievable! Sure there’s nothing else to do in Spokane than root for the Zags, but they refuse to acknowledge that they HAVE TO play that tough nonconfrence schedule because playing in the WAC is equivalent to playing in the DI-AA Big Sky (btw the Zags lost to the Big Skys own Portland State…in Spokane…don’t worry though, UW still managed to beat those pesky Vikings).

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    BigWalt, Baylor is not irrelevant. They underachieved, sure, but not irrelevant. I don’t think WASH is a bad team, I’m just saying i think that ASU will win THIS GAME. I don’t even say ASU is better than WASH

  • BigWalt206

    Justin, thanks I LOVE the PAC-10 soooo much! No matter what sport it is you can bet that the PAC-10 is one of the two best conferences at it…Football, Basketball, Baseball, Crew, Track, Gymnastics, Volleyball… therefor I am of the belief it is the best conference in college athletics. And Hockey is the exception that proves the rule!
    Cub, I know you have seen the err of your way since then and I appreciate it. IT is for real and I can wait for Abdul Gaddy next year! Thats going to be the best back court in all of college basketball! Also Cub, we have been celebrating nonstop since The Kid came home. I know he’s not the same Griffey that left, but I don’t care one bit! My last year of sports has been so dark that I needed something like my favorite player of all time coming back to my favorite baseball team. It helps me forget that that my real favorite team no longer exists. Just glad other can appreciate it too!

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    morningstar is better than i expected, and he does play good defense, hes no lockdown defender, but hes good. the key to the team is marcus morris and tyshawn taylor. if both are playing well, weve got a great chance.

  • BigWalt206

    Justin, I know, I’m just THAT defensive. I have a hard time believing that Washington will ever lose a game…ever. But thats just me.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    this is somewhat painful to say, but here goes, where is the missouri love? they have had a great year.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    uuuhhhh, i think im gonna be sick, i shoulnt have done that. i need to kill some bushwackers

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    Tarzan, they overperformed a bit, but overall outside of Oklahoma and KU, the BIG12 is an off year.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Did Big Walt really just call the Pac 10 the “preeminent conference in college sports”?

  • BigWalt206

    I did, and I would love to see reasoning to the contrary. I feel that this little tidbit off the Pac 10s official should suffice…
    Entering the 2008-09 season, the Pacific-10 Conference continues to uphold its tradition as the “Conference of Champions.” Pac-10 members have claimed an incredible 159 NCAA team titles over the past 18 seasons, for an average of more than eight championships per academic year.
    Even more impressive is the breadth of the Pac-10′s success, as those 159 team titles have come in 26 different men’s and women’s sports. The Pac-10 has led the nation in NCAA Championships 42 of the last 48 years and finished second five times.
    Spanning nearly a century of outstanding athletics achievement, the Pac-10 has captured 372 NCAA titles (259 men’s, 113 women’s), far outdistancing the runner-up Big Ten Conference’s 217 titles.
    …so I’m going to go ahead and say I may not have been to far out of line on that one.

  • BigWalt206

    official website…my bad

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    Mizzou has gotten some love in the past (like U-Dub,I whiffed on these guys in the preseason) but I can’t see them doing much this postseason.
    I do love their pace and intensity and I have watched them very closely, but for reasons other than just regular viewing.

  • dont worry

    I PLAY NBA 2K9 WIT RYAN THOMPSON…..AHAHHH

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    OK, swimming and badmitton championships are pretty cool, but I have to burst your bubble and say that Football, Basketball, and to a lesser extent baseball/softball rule the college landscape. The Pac 10 has a couple great schools, and I underestand you are just repping your hiome conference, but blanket staements like that are misleading and just incorrect. By just counting championships in any sport/compettition you are overvaluing those competitions that nobody cares about. Don’t get me wrong, I tried to get into UCLA and think its an awesome school with a tremendous basketball tradition and some of the other Cali schools are really great, but its just not an elite sports conference.
    The Big 12 perrenially has teams comepeting for championships in football, basketball and baseball/softball.

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