Wednesday, March 10th, 2010 at 2:57 pm  |  72 responses

In Defense of Brittney Griner

It’s time to stop maligning the young freshman.

by Ben York / @bjyork

“Did you see that girl baller drop that other girl the other day?” My friend not-so-intelligently asked me. Obviously, he was referring to Baylor’s freshman phenom Brittney Griner punching a Texas Tech player on March 3, 2010.

I nodded, and began to state how disappointed I was that the whole incident happened. I spoke with a morose tone as if I had the right to critique Brittney Griner as a young woman. We conversed for a while regarding the fallout after the punch, how it reflected badly upon women’s basketball especially with such a supreme talent like Griner, and how there is no excuse for something like that in the game. TBrittney Griner & Jordan Barncastlehen, I had somewhat of an epiphany – I realized I have no room to judge or ridicule Griner.

And neither do you.

Was the physical act of punching another player wrong? Yes, and I’m certain many people would agree with that sentiment. Is the continual violent treatment of Griner by opposing teams wrong? Absolutely, and neither one justifies the other. But a human being can only take so much before they lose their cool. Typically, the younger you are the quicker this will happen; such is the case for Griner.

Dwight Howard of the Orlando Magic undoubtedly knows what Griner is going through. He’s spoken many times about how close he is to going off on another player at any moment due to the beating he takes each game. Like Griner in women’s basketball, there aren’t many players bigger than Howard in the NBA. Hence, he becomes an obvious target for opposing defenses. In a game against the Indiana Pacers this past December, Howard and Magic head coach Stan Van Gundy expressed frustration after the game for the Pacers extreme physical play. “If you’re going to continue to hit him around the head and grab him around the neck, look I don’t care, those are flagrant fouls,” Van Gundy said after the game. “I don’t care who you are, you’re only going to take that for so long. It’s absurd what’s going on.”

Opposing teams have little choice than to be physical with Howard, and the same goes for Griner. They both are so dominant in their respective leagues that other teams simply have no answer. Thus, they become as physical as possible with Howard and Griner in hopes of getting them out of their game. But how much of this can a player take before they have to defend themselves?

After the punch, people around the world (including many members of the media) labeled Griner as having no self control and chiding her for her decision to escalate things. They looked down on her and questioned her resolve. Admittedly, I was guilty of doing the same thing initially. It wasn’t until I took a long look in the mirror and reflected upon the way I handled similar situations in my basketball playing days that I realized how hypocritical I was being.

Sometimes in life, there comes a time when enough is enough and defending yourself becomes necessary; it doesn’t matter where or when. Watching that Baylor vs. Texas Tech game, it’s no secret Griner was getting hammered in the paint all day. When Jordan Barncastle sort of threw Griner to the side with a hip-check, Griner snapped. Completely lost it. Couldn’t take it anymore. Granted, punching someone is clearly not the right way to go about making a point, and I felt badly for how blindsided Barncastle was.

But this has been brewing for a while now. This type of physicality against Griner has happened all her life. She’s always been dominant, always been bigger than everyone else. In fairness to her opposition, I suppose I would’ve done the same thing to combat Griner’s almost unstoppable game.

Still, I can’t help but wonder how I would’ve handled that situation. Would I have thrown a punch? I’ve played basketball at many levels and in competitive rec leagues for almost 10 years. For those who have also played at a high level, you know there are some people who are out there simply to hurt you; they just want to fight. I understand basketball is (and should be) somewhat of a physical sport, but every so often there is a point when a message needs to be sent; a time where you need to stand up for yourself. Again, resulting to physical and intentional violence is never the answer. I’ve gotten in people’s faces, had some grudge matches, and shoved my share of people; not because I’m a dirty player, but because it was time to let the other player know I’m not taking that stuff any longer. It was time to send a message.

The problem with Griner’s punch was that it was the wrong type of message. It came across as petty and unnecessary. Barncastle didn’t want to fight, she was trying to help her team win and bodying up Griner was one of the ways to do that. I wouldn’t have had any problem what-so-ever if Griner got into a shoving match or some words were exchanged. That’s part of basketball and part of competing at the highest of levels. It happens. In fact, those types of instances usually unite a team and provide a player with a sense of resiliency.

But before you label Griner as a dirty player, as uncontrollable, or as a recluse, take a look at yourself. What would you have done in those circumstances? Continue to get hit all day? At what point is enough truly enough?

Griner now has two ways to handle this situation; either come out of it a more dedicated and honorable player or continue to let the physical treatment get to her head. It is my sincere hope she does the former, since the physicality of play will only increase with the level she plays at.

Look, I don’t agree with what Griner did. Not at all. I’m just saying that before you turn your back on her; make sure you know for a fact that you would’ve handled the situation differently. Go to a rec league, play some ball, and try not to become so frustrated that a thought like that doesn’t cross your mind.

Until that happens, ease up on Brittney Griner.

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Diesel
    Again, you made it about race with Lambieer when I was talking about a totally different point.
    Notice how I said PAT RILEY and the Knicks and Heat. Because for the Pistons, the main face was Isiah, and for the Heat and Knicks, the main personality was Riley. He overshadowed both Mourning and Ewing.
    But, you keep reaching for race son, when I outlined for you the real reason I have a problem with how Griner is treated.
    You see race because you want to see race. It allows you to ignore my salient points and instead say “Oh he just cares about race, he’s a racist. I don’t have to listen. Lalalalala…”
    You think spouting you inconsquential opinion based on anecdotal evidence represents intelligence or fact.
    Like far too many folks in this country, you scoff at scholarship, studies or any information that challenges your bias because that would cause you examine the cesspool you call a brain.
    You avoid introspection like a plague because you really don’t want to think about what you believe or why you believe it.
    Look how you just compared Griner’s punch, which happened in the heat of the moment during a game, to a punch thrown after a game by a college football player during the handshake line.
    As if that’s compararble. To do that, you had to ignore all recent cases of basketball players throwing punches elbows or the like.
    Instead you went to a football player who actually attacked another player during handshakes to get the punishement you would like to see.
    And you don’t even understand how that’s illogical.
    That’s hilarious to me. The lack of intelligence in you posts, combined with the mind-numbing arrogance is really quite funny.
    And typical.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I thought I was finished, but let me add this since you seem to miss so many of my points.
    1. The white soccer player committed violence against people without intervention by the refs. Thus, your assertion that Griner should have known that the refs would protect her and that nobody could hurt her is ludicrous. Even with the different dimensions of a basketball court compared to a soccer field, there is simply too much going on for refs to be aware of everything. Nor are refs always inclined to intervene.
    2.The Knicks, Heat and Pistons all played a particularly style of basektball that was villianized then and has been villianized now. That involved erasing skill deficits by using violence.
    That is the same brand of basketball being used against Griner. The same brand of basketball that was used against Shaq at LSU, which led to his head coach Dale Brown begging him to turn pro early.
    You don’t seem to think there is anythign wrong with that. My point was that many of the same media folks defending or ignoring Barncastle, castigating those three teams for their bully ball, and saw no problem when the opponents of those teams responded in kind.
    Since you couldn’t seem to grasp my point earlier.

  • Diesel

    Since I seem to be ignoring them, please site for me the recent basketball cases where a player wound up and full swung connecting with someone’s face like that. If her punch is moved over a fraction of an inch she brakes that girl’s nose. Anyone winding up and punching someone else in the face like that can do some serious damage. That’s much different then the shoving matches you’re most likely referring to in other games. But very similar to the Kermit washington punch you discredited. As for the rest of your post, I guess we’ll never see eye to eye, and I’m ok with that.

  • Diesel

    Have you ever seen Shaq punch someone in the face? Or Dwight? The closest thing I can remember was Shaq trying to swing at the back of Brad Miller’s head…and he was so far off that I have to think he didn’t really want to connect. No you haven’t, because those people have the composure to not act like an animal.

  • Ace

    @Diesel Shaq took a swing at Barkley for example and other players as well it’s all on youtube go look. Kobe has also swung, as well. Maybe it’s b/c i’m a hockey fan and an old school bball fan that fights don’t bother me. Magic knocked the hell out of Isaiah during a game, and they were friends at the time. I hear you on it should never resort to physical violence. Your on a MLK Gandhi kick and i’m on more of Malcom X type thing.

  • jborange

    Brittney is not a thug,an animal,or a monster.Those are awful and insulting things to say.She is a human being.The problem is that people don’t view players like Brittney, Candace, Dwight,and Shaq as normal human beings when they’re on the court.So many people,including,sports writers use non-human adjectives like “freak of nature”, “freakish”, “beast”,etc. to describe these players. Sometimes they even try to use them as compliments,like in an article I read about Candace,where the writer called her “freakishly good”.But the word “freak” is not a compliment.The word “freak” brings to mind people with strange physical abnormalities,who are used as side show acts at the circus. These basketball players are not side show attractions,and their height is not a physical abnormality.They are human beings,and they have feelings too.They come from tall and athletic families who they inherited their God-given gifts from.And the reason Shaq has that restraint is because he is older and more experienced,and he is used to the Hack-a-Shaq strategy that opposing teams use against him.Also,he did not strike Brad Miller because he knows that with his height and weight(7 ft. tall,300 lbs)he could have severly injured him and put him in the hospital.Brittney is still young and has a lot to learn,and she has to grow and mature as a person and an athlete.

  • Diesel

    @Ace – I think the reason I look at this as worse than the NBA fights that you’re talking about is because more or less those were shoving matches…and both guys new they were in a fight. If there was a punch it was a close range jab. This on the other hand was a full wind up and swing at a girl that was walking away…and right in the middle of her face. Hockey fights don’t even seem as bad to me because none of those punches are wind ups, there’s a ref standing there to break it up if it gets too crazy, and once again both people know they’re in a fight…no sucker punches.

  • Diesel

    @jborange – I agree. I don’t mean to come off as mocking or attaking britney. I’m just saying we shouldn’t try and rationalize what she did. You saying Shaq doesn’t hit people cause he knows he can hurt them is exactly why I’m so upset by this. Britney is a big strong girl. People call her “freak’ for being so strong and physically dominating. So her punching a girl would be very similar to shaq punching a guy.

  • kg

    i ;ove the comparision . . .

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    1. Griner is tall and lanky. Not big. I would wager that she and Barncastle weigh the same amount.
    2. There have been a plethora of fights in the NBA. Many of them where a player walks up to another player and punches him after snapping. Look up what Doctor J did to Larry Bird. Or what Jordan did to Reggie Miller. And Shaq has swung on people, his aim just sucks.
    3. There is no “rule” that says I have to give you fair warning that I’m going to punch you by bumping chests with you and shoving you. Barncastly was looking at Griner when she was struck. Griner got slung around, turned around and immediately started swining. She didn’t try to sneak up on someone. Hell, how could she break the girl’s nose if she “sucker punched” her? We are not having a duel, we are having a fight. In a fight, I swing and you defend yourself. There are no rules that say I must announce my intent to punch you. The fact that so many people are focusing that tells me they are either woefully ignorant of actual fights, or are applying some ridiculous standard to this fight beccause of the participants.
    4. Animals are animals and humans are humans. The number of comments comparing Griner to an animal, beast or thug is quite illuminating. In a society where MMA is the fastest growing sport, it’s really interesting that a female basketball player who throws one punch would be labeled an “animal.”
    Given the plethora of Youtube clips showing people throwing punches with far less provocation, it’s quite strange that this girl became a beastly, animal thug for her actions.

  • Diesel

    1. she is extremely thick from the waist down. She’s a big strong girl with thick legs. And she’s definietly bigger/heavier than barncastle
    2. have you even seen the fights that you’re referencing yourself? Jordan and miller had their arms locked up and it was one big shoving match. None of those fights involved a wind up swing
    3. she punched her in the face because barncastle was sideways. You can say what you want the tape don’t lie..barncastle wasn’t looking at her. Britney swung around another girl and sucker punched her. There are no rules in a fight, you’re right. But this was a basketball game ya dummy, not a fight or mma event
    4. Animals are animals and humans are humans. I can act like I’m a fish when I swim and britney can act like an animal when she sucker punches people.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Diesel
    1. I would post the weights, but they don’t list weight for women players on the two teams websites.
    2. Obviously you have never seen what Doctor J did to Larry Bird. Or how Shaq swung on Brad Miller. Clearly, in your mind, throwing a roundhouse is worse than throwing a jab. Just go to Youtube and search NBA fights.
    3. Griner straightened up from being slung and punched. Again, she didin’t sneak up on her, hit her in the back of the head. She got up, and swung. This whole “suckerpunch” rule is something cats who think fights are duels believe in. And when you start sling people to ground, or trying, it’s a fight. You don’t initiate violence outside of the rules and then looked shocked when things escalate. That’s some ridiculous crap.
    4. You keep on clinging to that rule about calling names. But, I’ve never seen an animal sucker punch anybody. Tell, me what animal have you see do it?

  • jborange

    If you want to talk about players who were out of control,how about Dennis Rodman.He was and always will be one of the best rebounders to ever play the game,but he had a very short fuse.He fought with refs,opposing players,fans,and cameramen.His behavior eventually got him kicked out of the NBA.And in the WNBA,Elaine Powell (formerly with the Shock)punched opponents repeatedly. During a game the Shock played against Washington a few years ago,she hit Coco Miller in the face.One year when Powell was playing in Poland during the offseason,she punched an opponent in the face twice in one game.I think Elaine Powell should have taken up boxing instead of basketball.Another WNBA player,Deanna Jackson was playing in Israel during the offseason one year,and got arrested by the Israeli police for beating up an opponent in the parking lot after a game.Compared to what these players did,what Brittney did was a youthful indiscretion.

  • jborange

    AllenP,good points,especially #4.I’ve never seen an animal punch anybody either.Most animals don’t even have hands.

  • lsmith

    I don’t think she is a “thug” and I haven’t really heard or read that anywhere. She should suffer consequences though for her actions. 2 games seems a bit light. WE all make mistakes (but doesn’t excuse the behavior), but again, there needs to be consequences for actions that are wrong. I probably would have suspended her for a few more games. The punishment needed to hurt a bit more I think to have an effect. Tough love…. If you play sports you understand how heated it can get especially if you are a competitive person. It’s a physical sport. Again…I understand it but you have to pay the price for your actions. She is young and i hope she learns from this situation.

  • Diesel

    Allen you keep saying this initiating violence line…have you never played basketball??? have you not got tangled up with someone and pushed or pulled a little harder to prove you won’t be pushed around? She wasn’t initiating violence, she was playing basketball. Then britney punched her in the face and fractured her nasal cavity. That’s animal behavior. Getting physical and not being able to use your brain is the action of animals. Britney is an animal. Would you two let your daughters play against her? You wouldn’t be worried that if your daughter boxed her out a little too hard Britney might take offence and break her face? She’s an animal and that’s that. I’m done.

  • Diesel

    And finally, Barncastle is out for the rest of the season…she isn’t physically cleared to play due to the assault by the freak. Yet that thuggish animal gets to play? Not right at all.

  • jborange

    Barncastle is not out for the rest of the season.I read that she is going to wear a mask to protect her nose,and she will play with her team in the Big 12 tournament.And for the last time, stop calling Brittney an animal! She does not have a lack of manners or home training,just a lack of maturity.That’s all.She is not a thug either! The word “thug” refers to gangbangers, drug dealers,and other criminals who live the streetlife,and they do a lot worse than beating people up.So that word doesn’t even belong in this conversation.We’re talking about athletes getting into brawls on the court,not gang turf wars.

  • Ace

    @Diesel I’m with Allenp on there being a plethora of NBA fights with people throwing punches, throwing each other, choking each other etc. How much hockey do you watch or how many games have you seen in person b/c they throw wind up punches and your def of “sucker punches” all the time. Britney is not an animal. Barncastle did not box her out she slung Britney. From someone who has played basketball Barncastle crossed the line when she slung her, and Brintey responded. I still find it funny that your talking about how a person should act etc etc but yet you want to call that kid outside of her name. You can’t demand that someone show respect for another person when you can’t do the same. You can make your point without calling the child an “animal” or saying that anyone who agrees with Ben is an “idiot.” And animals do use their brain, ever watch animal planet? A lion has to plan their attack for example.

  • jborange

    Brittney is not a bad person.She is just young and inexperienced at handling this excessive contact.The higher the level of basketball is(college,pro,etc.),the more intense and physical it gets.Brittney just has to learn how to take hits and give hits without losing her cool,and without punching or excessive contact.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I appreciate those of you who recognized the problem with using words like “animal” and “thug” to describe this young woman.
    As I said from the beginning, Griner deserved her suspension because she shouldn’t have let the other team win the mental battle with her. Considering her dominance, she’s going to meet people who attempt to bully and beat her for the rest of her career. It’s a small price for a team to pay.
    I don’t know what the past suspensions for college fights have been. Without that info, and considering she was suspended by both the NCAA and her team, I’m fine with what happened.
    Is there any objective proof that Griner was treated any differently than any other woman player who has been involved in a fight? Any past precedent? If not, then the people who are clamoring for a longer suspension need to prove why they think more punishment is warranted in this situation, and I haven’t seen that from anyone.

  • jborange

    Another non-human adjective frequently used by reporters, sportswriters,and others in the media in reference to tall, super talented athletes like Brittney and Candace is “thoroughbred”. People in the media think this is a complement also,but it’s not.Thoroughbred is a word normally used to describe racehorses.There was an ESPN article about Brittney,in which the writer mentioned how taller than average people are treated by the general public.They interviewed Hall of Famer Anne Donovan(she’s 6ft. 7in. tall,and is currently the head coach for the New York Liberty),who said that,to this day when she walks down the street,people still make impolite and insulting comments about her height,sometimes not realizing they’re being obnoxious.Imagine how a tall teen girl like Brittney must feel.Those of us who are average height don’t have to deal with people staring,pointing,and making rude comments.When we’re out in public,we can blend into the crowd.Tall people,especially tall girls and women can’t do that so easily.So we should be more sensitive about how we talk about them.We can have these debates and give constructive criticism without name calling.

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