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Friday, March 19th, 2010 at 1:34 pm  |  60 responses

Jeremy Tyler Quits Israel Pro Team

Tyler played 10 games and scored a total of 21 points for Maccabi Haifa. That works out to $14,000 a game, $7,000 per point. Here’s wishing him better luck wherever his basketball endeavors take him next (via ESPN): “Former U.S. high school basketball star Jeremy Tyler quit Israeli team Maccabi Haifa and returned home Friday, cutting short a disappointing first pro season. The 18-year-old Tyler arrived in Israel on a wave of publicity in August after deciding to skip his senior year at San Diego High School to gain professional experience. However, his time in Israel was fraught with problems, and he left five weeks before the end of the season.”

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  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/farmer-jones/ Ryan Jones

    The anti-Jennings. His head was never ready for this.

  • Saku 39

    Stern wins again?

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    I’m not sure how this is the anti-Jennings. Both went there hoping to get massive playing time and valuable experience, and learned they just weren’t old enough or skilled enough, and that FIBA basketball values experience over talent.
    Tyler was just younger and even less experienced.
    Another setback to the Euro/FIBA movement… pity…

  • Hussman25

    This is not a good sign… he will def have to sit a yr if he chooses to go to college; he’s not a pick in this years draft if he goes pro and his attitude and mind-state will be mentioned when teams evaluate him… bad move from the jump! He should have just moved to a diff part of the country in the US to a more competative state so he could get more competition… Sad

  • The Philosopher

    Quitting is NOT an option. As long as the money is flowing, don’t quit. What is he going to do now? The entire basketball world just saw him quit because he couldn’t handle it. I’m sorry, no respect at all for a ball player who quits. He was supposed to make them run him out of town. Period.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Well that was shortlived..

  • The Philosopher

    And it isn’t even like he was playing in the League, where there are real ball players, either. Not that Isreal is a bush league, but… Korleone Young all over again. At least young didn’t quit, though.

  • Homie

    ISR A E L

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/overdribbling chiqo

    so he can go straight to the d-league now, right? cause he’s definitely not eligible to even think about playing in college.

  • kwame

    wow…i hope this guy can mature and savor his career…not every1 can be brandon jennings.

  • kwame

    i mean y could he jus finish high school and then go to europe or even dominate college…jus wait 2 years and b a lottery pick….guaranteed 4 mil? c’mon son

  • LA Huey

    I hate agreeing with The Philosopher but he couldn’t hang on for a few more weeks? Bad-looking-out on his agent’s part.

  • Wendallt

    This is really sad. He first shoulda finished high school (at least jennings did) and then maybe….just maybe think about over seas (which, by the way isnt for everyone. His parents are most of the blame. They should have been looking at what was best for him in the long run, and if he was even mature enough to handle such responsibility. Money is the root of all evil, and now where does he go! cant play in college, what go back over seas….and then there’s the D-league? Bad decisions by parents and agent. Good Luck Kid!

  • Stillballin

    You only had 5 more weeks before the end of the season.. Why not finish it.. In the end of the day, it’s still basketball..your second option is play in the d league..it’s not too late.. Just gonna work even harder now..because the world just saw you quit.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/64902/4259/euroleague-all-decade-selection-theodoros-papaloukas?lang=en&itemid=64902&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU PAPALOUKAS (click on my name)

    @jukai/tavoris 1:52…..: correct. Just use “actual fandamental skills” instead of “experience”(over talent=run-jump!!!! )

  • http://sevendeu2u.wordpress.com/ Seven Duece

    If you’d quit HS, why wouldn’t he quit basketball too?

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    this is kinda like the kid who got home-sick when he goes to college, and drops out to go home. i’m sure this happens often inside Unites States, so being a kid who hasn’t even graduated high school on the other side of the world where the culture is vastly different in a land where they don’t even speak the same language must be extra extra difficult. it takes a very tough mind to be able to handle that. if Tyler was only in the bubble of basketball, he would probably be okay; but life is a lot more than just basketball (think about it, what’s he eating? does he have friend to talk to?), and i’m sad Tyler had to learn it this way. best of luck, kid.

  • Waters

    From what I read earlier his plan was to be home-schooled and get his GED. I wonder if that is still the plan, or if that plan has already come to fruition.

  • Michael Scorn

    Wow! He had a worse year than Starbury. He probobly quit because teammates were picking on him.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Tavoris: true, but experience also has a lot in the Euro world… take a look at Rubio when he was 16= better than every PG on his team, but still played third string minutes cause the other guys were older.

  • The Philosopher

    I still can’t believe this kid quit. He took his ball and went home. Leon Smith didn’t quit.

  • The Philosopher

    Maybe Lenny Cooke made it to manager at the Food Lion. If so, maybe Tyler can get a job. No college degree. Does he even have his diploma/GED?

  • http://www.twitter.com rushmelo

    Why cant people just stop hatin’
    dude is only 18.
    he goes overseas to a hostile country with great publicity. People are bound to be jealous. Especially the Guys on his team who are much older than him and hoped to make a transition into the American game (THE NBA) but never made it.
    This guy has talent. no doubt. he will bounce back perfectly. and whatever decision made by him has not been erratic. he must have thought a hell lot about it. its a matter of millions. this incident will just increase the gap between the Euro Game and the American.

    albie1kenobi

    I fEEL YOU. you got heart.

    ITs just a matter of time
    This kid will

    with the * pick in the 2012 NBA Draft

  • Lazaruz

    says a lot about his character.

    you shouldnt be hating on him for what he did on the court, dude is only 18. you can’t expect him to do be a big contributor in a tough league. it’s the fact he quit.

    never quit unless you are injured for season or can’t get well.

  • Michael Scorn

    I’m so jealous of a high school drop out.

  • The Philosopher

    There’s no quitting in basketball. Period. There are people who went through more than him, and didn’t quit. He’s soft. He’s a baby. A toddler. An infant. They should have been giving him milk and cookies.

  • The Philosopher

    Now, are little kids going to look up to this baby and think it’s cool to quit at what you do? Especially if he makes the League?

  • The Philosopher

    I think the League should base rookie salaries on how many years spent in college. They should find a way to get these babies ready. Going overseas isn’t the answer.

  • http://www.euroleagueadventures.com Nick Gibson

    He’s already said he’s not leaving Europe. And in no way is this the anti-Jennings. He’ll play another year, take his bumps and bruises (a la B-Jen) and come out stronger for it. The problem was signing with Haifa in the first place; they were in disarray due to organizational snafus when he arrived and things never quite righted themselves. Everyone just forget about him for a year and we’ll hear from him again. No question.

  • Michael Scorn

    What is so bad about finishing high school with all tour friends, and then going to college for a year? Just seems like the most certain path to the NBA.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Michael Scorn: Sure, unless you get injured and never make a buck.

  • Michael Scorn

    That’s right, because no one gets injured overseas. K-Mart broke his leg in college and still made a decent career in the NBA. If you can play, you will make it in the NBA. Duwan Blair made it too.

  • Casey Jacobsen

    I don’t like reading some of the negative comments about this kid, but I must admit that he brought this upon himself. Obviously, his season in Israel didn’t work out anything like he thought, but he couldn’t stick it out for a few more weeks to, at least, avoid the “quitter” headlines?

    I don’t know Jeremy at all, but I hope he recovers from this setback. He’s only 18 after all. He’s got a lot of time, although he must start trying to salvage his basketball career RIGHT NOW!

    Hope to see him on a court next season doing well.

  • Bryan

    This kid got what he deserved. Saw too many dollar signs and wasn’t thinking with his head. Open up a text book and get your high school diploma at least for christ sake. Was a bad idea from the start…

  • The Philosopher

    @Casey Jacobsen: You know what time it is. You know you don’t quit. You just don’t. And he went over there with more confidence than you had when you got to the League.

  • The Philosopher

    @Casey Jacobsen:At the end of the day, someone in his circle should have known Tyler well enough to know that he didn’t have the mettle to cope over there. And you said it, he has to do something now. What can he do? Go on a PR campaign?

  • Michael Scorn

    Who did this guy owe money to that made him be in such a damn hurry?

  • Michael Scorn

    I bet this guy wishes he could find a hot tub time machine.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Michael Scorn you are an idiot.
    “Who did this guy owe money to that made him be in such a damn hurry?” says it all.

  • Michael Scorn

    Am not.

  • Ronald

    I swear I read another article how he was getting looked at by teams in the Euroleague. Maybe this was a move for him to get onto a better team and league?

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Michael Scorn: Sorry I didn’t dumb my point down to the extreme so you could understand it. I meant to say by going to Europe instead of going to college, a player makes money IMMEDIATELY. Had Jennings broke his leg his first five games and ended his career, he would have still made two million, as per his contract. Had he broken it in college, well, I hope he has some other career skills to fall back on because he’s getting zero.
    That’s the advantage of playing in Europe. Guaranteed money.
    Did Jennings lose money by going to Europe? Almost definitely. In such a weak draft (at least though to be weak), Jennings coulda gone top 4. But Jennings did get a sweet million. If his career had ended in college, he would have earned jack. And probably would have owed money, since he woulda lost his scholarship and had to take out loans to complete a desperate degree.
    I’m not saying going to Europe is a wise decision (Jennings probably lost millions). I’m saying there are two sides to every coin and I can’t believe you didn’t get that point.

  • Casey Jacobsen

    @Ronald: I don’t think it was to go somewhere else. His agent didn’t even know he was leaving! Plus, it is too late to sign with a Euroleague team at this point…the deadline for new players has already passed by. The Euroleague quarterfinals are this coming week. You won’t see Jeremy Tyler on a European roster this season…and I don’t think you’ll see him on one next year until he proves (in the D-League, maybe) that he can put up some consistent numbers.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Casey Jacobsen: Any chance of Jeremy joining a smaller euro-team? One with no aspirations of getting into the euroleagues tournament? Imean, you don’t get much worse than Haifa right now, but I’m betting they are out there.
    I agree, while the dude shouldn’t rush into anything rash, he’s gotta make a basketball move as soon as humanly possible.

  • Michael Scorn

    @Jukai- I remember Baron Davis tearing is ACL or something during college. He still made a great career in the NBA. The bottom line, like I said before, is players who are good enough will make it in the NBA. The “what if he gets injured” is just an excuse.

  • Michael Scorn

    Let’s say a player goes over sees, gets a million dollars, gets injured. Now, what does a 19 year old do for the rest of his life. Is he just gonna sit at home and try not to spend that million too fast or he might have to get a job.

  • Michael Scorn

    I wish people knew how to debate without resorting to calling each other stupid and dumb. Just present facts.

  • Ronald

    http://www.ballineurope.com/countries/israel/jeremy-tyler-watch-wait-til-next-year/

    Just putting this link here. Supposedly the team told him to find another team. Of course, I don’t exactly trust blogs. But you can
    t really trust ESPN considering they pay money to Henry Abbott to write for them.

  • The Philosopher

    Players aren’t made like they used to be made. In the old days, all there was to do was play ball. Hone your craft. But now, with the things that are currently present, there are things to do other than play ball, and hone your skill. These guys just don’t seem to have it. They’re not tough, they’re not focused. A lot of guys, anyway.

  • Michael Scorn

    I agree with The Philosopher.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    You must go to Republican debating school. So, one player hurt himself in college but didn’t hurt himself seriously and that’s you’re rebuttal?
    Wow.
    And if a player gets a million dollars, yeah, he can just ‘sit around and do nothing’ if he wants. Or, he can use that money to get an education. You know, without having to take out a bajillion student loans because he was banking on making the NBA.
    This is a very simple concept. I can’t explain it any easier, I don’t have any hand puppets to help you understand this.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    *your rebuttal.
    It is all risk/reward. Do you go play in college and show yourself as a star and get more money later while risking getting no money by getting a career ending injury before you get paid, or sign a contract and get paid now but risk lowering your draft status by performing poorly in a league that wont cater to you.
    What if Shawn Livingston had tore every single muscle in his leg in COLLEGE? Exactly what would Shawn be doing without all the money he earned in his rookie contract?

  • Michael Scorn

    Yeah, but this guy can’t go to college unless he graduates high school first. So, that million dollars won’t be accepted by any college.

  • Michael Scorn

    How often does a career ending injury happen anyway? You gave me one example, but then complained when I brought up Kenyon Martin, Duwan Blair, and Baron Davis. Also, I can debate without trying to insult the other person. I’m taking one side of an argument, while you are trying to attack me.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    That’s not true, you’ve delivered an incredibly harsh tone throughout the debate. Is it lonely on your high horse?
    If you want, I can research examples and get back to you. However, I don’t need examples, because no matter how low the possibility is, the fact remains, dudes can hurt themselves. Players hurt themselves ALL the time and lose MILLIONS because they hurt their draft stock. Hurting themselves in the euroleague would get them back a considerable amount of money because of their guaranteed contract (and I know, a lot of Euroteams are tricky, but Jennings got the whole million).
    Also, Tyler was finishing up his high school degree at a night school. I’m not sure what’s happening now, but the dude WAS getting his high school degree. So chill on the dude, if he wasn’t getting a high school degree I’d be one hundred percent with you.

  • Michael Scorn

    You’re right. I initially try to make a silly argument about these posts and I often come off as arrogant. I like to base my arguments as someone who takes things out of context. Somewhere it turns serious and I go to far. I hope he makes it. He definately has way more courage than me.

  • Charlie

    The guy should be looking to sign with as good a team as possible. The goal was to make money, but also to develop into an NBA ready prospect. Minutes and stats shouldn’t be the priority. He joins a team such as Barcelona for example and he can learn from the older players, many of whom have played in the league. That is where I see the major benefit of going to Europe, but I don’t think they see it this way.

  • NAS

    someone explain to me why he cant go back to highschool, graduate and then apply for college and play on a college team – the NCAA is full of sh*t

  • ab_40

    if he was good enough he would play let’s get that straight. look to omri caspi he played a lot of minutes at an early age in israel so if you’re skilled you can get pt. and if you’re A not that skilled and B not mentaly ready for the beatdown they give you at practice and in games you’re gonna be in trouble. He’ll turn out just fine no worries he’ll get a spot in the D leauge or another pro leauge in europe next season. but to not finish the season is bad for his reputation as a person and as a player. kinda dumb realy

  • Cizzo

    Dude is still a baby, ish aint as fun when the presure of the fact that this is no longer just a game, when it become a job, evreything gets critical! I want be surprised f this kid quit trying to play basketball profesionaly or end up as a bust, keep an eye on him!

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