Jeremy Tyler Leaving High School for Europe

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• SLAM ONLINE | Posted: Apr.23 at 12:49 am
  [...] Jeremy Tyler To Play in Europe [...]

• Danny Ferry Posted: Apr.23 at 1:29 am
  Wow, speaks to our me-first, right-now society when someone is willing to get in the ear of a 17 year old to get a little taste. At least with Brandon J. he GOT a high school diploma, now he’s qualified for jack squat. Disappointing to say the least.

• thesubwayconnection Posted: Apr.23 at 1:58 am
  Yeah, I wonder if he’s actually forgoing his GED, or just taking distance courses to ensure he gets one. Education has value, even in the world of pro sports.

• that dude Posted: Apr.23 at 4:47 am
  Pfft @ danny ferry If the kid’s future is in professional basketball, and that’s what he wants to do. why the hell not? There’s plenty of athletes in different sports who go pro younger than him. and he’s getting his GED by distance education.

• Z Posted: Apr.23 at 7:26 am
  it’s shocking here because we associate sports and education. wayne rooney was playing pro at 16. very few soccer players get their diplomas. almost all of the euro imports never set foot in a college. again, school is very important and i encourage everybody to get a diploma. he could have waited a year, i agree. but this has nothing to do with a me-first society. it’s done everywhere else in the world where they play sports in clubs and not in schools.

• nastierthanyou Posted: Apr.23 at 7:51 am
  How much is he going to make for his efforts. How many of us have been to europe. Opportunities like these don’t happen all the time. I’m 36 and I’ve never been to europe. Do I think he should get an education? Yes, but this is a great opportunity to study abroad.

• Ken Posted: Apr.23 at 9:03 am
  The NYT article I read said he’ll be making 6 figures, but less than what Jennings got this year.

• Ryan Jones Posted: Apr.23 at 9:54 am
  I like when ‘Danny Ferry’ posts as ‘Ivan Lendl’ on forehandwinneronline.com and complains about all the 16-year-olds playing at Wimbledon. Please, seriously, shut the f*ck up if you don’t have anything remotely intelligent to add.

• Ben Osborne Posted: Apr.23 at 10:10 am
  Exactly: this is business as usual in pretty much every country but ours.

• Ryan Jones Posted: Apr.23 at 10:31 am
  Ben — not to mention in a lot of sports IN our country, at least the ones where mafia-esque governing bodies don’t run the show. Hypocrisy? Implied racism? Yes, all the good stuff.
  But I digress

• Ben Osborne Posted: Apr.23 at 10:57 am
  Well yes, tennis, golf, hockey, baseball once you graduate high school, ice skating, etc. The biggest thing to me is tha the NBA has never been motivated to provide kids an option when college would groom them for free. Maybe if enough kids forego college the NBA will take rightful responsibility for providing a minor league.

• Allenp Posted: Apr.23 at 10:58 am
  Good digression Ryan.
  I hope he gets his GED though. And saves his money.
  Otherwise, I say good luck to the young man.

• Ryan Jones Posted: Apr.23 at 11:03 am
  From Dan Wetzel — who knows more about the shady underbelly of “amateur” basketball than I do, which is saying something — on his Yahoo column today:
  “This isn’t some sign of the sporting apocalypse or a teenager with an overvalued sense of worth. It’s a daring, trailblazing yet well-thought-out move that challenges the bizarre way America develops amateur basketball players.”
  F*cking A right.

• Ryan Jones Posted: Apr.23 at 11:10 am
  hat tip to CoCo for linking that on her FB page.

• rob stewart Posted: Apr.23 at 11:13 am
  He will just be the first of many. In a few years some kid will skip their junior year as well. We all know Lebron could have been making 7 figures over seas as a sophomore/junior if he wanted to.

• Ryan Jones Posted: Apr.23 at 11:16 am
  Anybody who’s reading this needs to read Wetzel’s column. He breaks it down exceptionally well, with quotes from Tyler and his dad (and Sonny, of course). Rooting against this kid makes you un-American. I am not even joking.

• Cizzo Posted: Apr.23 at 11:57 am
  At least get your High school diploma Brandon Jennings did that and I think that would be a bad career move!

• B. Long Posted: Apr.23 at 12:01 pm
  I don’t remember this kind of douchbaggery going on when Freddie Adu was going to be the “next big thing for American soccer”. But I guess it’s different when the kid comes from somewhere besides the US. SMDH.

• Joey E. Posted: Apr.23 at 12:15 pm
  I just hope he makes it big and doesnt have a career ending injury or something. good luck

• David Posted: Apr.23 at 2:12 pm
  My only point of contention is the Tylers’ public reasoning of not being challenged enough in high school. Unless you live in an area that is saturated with talent, then the competitive itch is found through the AAU route, not high school. It’s ironic because Jeremy Tyler is often outplayed in AAU games when the competition meets his supposed lofty expectations. This kid was the next big thing a couple years ago, and now he’s blaming his competition for the lack of progres in his game? He’s dropped from the consensus #1 player in his class to being a top-10 project. That isn’t something to scoff at on the surface, but take into account his seemingly limitless ceiling a couple years ago, he hasn’t progressed past that “project big man” phase. His high rating could be based more on his reputation of having great potential. A lot of man-childs garner hype when they’re 14 and 15, but the field eventually catches up. For him and his father to blame the stagnation of his development on the lack of competition is a cop-out. He didn’t even dominate the AAU circuit, but he thinks he can hang with professional men? This situation is a lot different than Brandon Jennings going overseas as a point guard. Tyler may be big, but he isn’t physically mature enough to bang with men who are going to begrudge a kid using their league as the NBA minors. Unlike Jennings, who has an incredible skill set on the perimeter, Tyler is still working on his offensive and defensive interior game. Maybe he’ll get the kind of coaching he desires in Europe. He wasn’t going to get it playing in the CIF San Diego Section, and he doesn’t appear to have found a good AAU coach to bring out his potential. For a kid as hyped up as he was two years ago, he doesn’t seem to have taken advantage of all the opportunities that come with it. What he should’ve done is moved to LA like Renardo Sidney and played in the competitive CIF Southern or LA City section. Then, he could’ve caught on with one of the several elite AAU teams based in LA.

• Co Co Posted: Apr.23 at 2:23 pm
  I hope it works out for him. I really do.

• Allenp Posted: Apr.23 at 3:35 pm
  Thanks for that comment David.
  Good viewpoint that was missing.

• Mendel Posted: Apr.23 at 3:36 pm
  For six figures, I would quit high school too.

• Ryan Jones Posted: Apr.23 at 4:05 pm
  David’s point is a fair one. That said, the only thing that draws more flak from the hoops/media establishment than going to Europe is playing summer ball – all the coaches are on the take, there’s no fundamentals, etc and so forth. David, as much as you know about prep hoops, you certainly understand this.
  The fact is that the system is set up for high school and college governing bodies to force these kids to follow their path to THEIR benefit, not the kids’. And anyway, you’re promoting him moving high schools — how is the idea of bouncing from school to school (and still playing against largely inferior comp, for free) any more in the kid’s best interest than going overseas and getting paid to show and prove against grown men? As always, I have no idea if this will work, but I hope it does.
  PS, That “he stopped improving” thing has been leveled at countless kids who’ve been top-ranked in their class early in HS. OJ caught it HARD. It’s nothing new, and while it’s not always valid, it certainly often is. Time will tell with Jeremy, but the fact that at least some NBA scouts are still saying he’s got big-time potential (not to mention Sonny, whose influence comes from aligning himself with and promoting the kids who make it REALLY big) makes me like his chances.

• Z Posted: Apr.23 at 4:35 pm
  With OJ, I don’t know it he ‘stopped improving’ or people were just looking for another story, another angle. When you look back at his pre-NBA career, he’s always been a killer. / I don’t know anything about Tyler’s game but for a big that is not tough yet, Spain is literally going to be the shcool of the hard knocks. EVERYTHING is allowed down low. The league is full of Scolas and Nocionis and you basically have stab someone for them to call an over the back on a rebound. He’ll come back tough as nails by sheer osmosis.

• Ryan Jones Posted: Apr.23 at 4:48 pm
  That was my point Z — that it was largely perception. My bad for not making that more clear.

• Harlem_World Posted: Apr.23 at 5:42 pm
  About time we had some situations that will eventually force the NCAA and HS bodies to re-evaluate their exploitative system. 2 years playing pro in Europe will better prepare him for the NBA than any other route he could have taken. He’ll play more basketball (euro’s LOVE 2 a days) and face better competition and get hard nosed, fundamentally sound coaching. Plus get paid? I can’t see how this isn’t a good thing, providing he has the support of his family and has plans to equip himself with an education eventually, that he can use after his balling days are up. Good luck to him.

• Harlem_World Posted: Apr.23 at 5:43 pm
  Oh, and down with the NCAA and their bullsh*t

• Allenp Posted: Apr.23 at 6:10 pm
  I’m very pleased with the general tone of these comments, and not just because many of them align with my point of view.

• Justin Posted: Apr.23 at 6:16 pm
  Well I know guys that dropped out of high school to work crappy jobs and smoke weed all the time, so this is not that bad

• convict Posted: Apr.23 at 6:29 pm
  The truth is that jeremy has a father who has had his hand out for the last 5 yrs . This young man is that true example of exploitation,the system is f—d up but this kid never stood a chance. The story is so perverted it is sad. Jeremy is A great prospect and a wonderful but confused young man.To hear people comment about the situationn is comical because this young person is a puppet who should apply for emacipation from a family and father who see him as nothing but a lottery ticket.Maybe one day the truth will come out until then good luck JT

• amf Posted: Apr.23 at 6:47 pm
  I got my degree and I aint sh*t

• amf Posted: Apr.23 at 6:57 pm
  I’d rather fall off and be left with money. Than go to college and fall off and be broke with a meaningless degree.

• adam Posted: Apr.23 at 8:39 pm
  Man big J was my teamamte this season. I think hes gonna dominate europe and make that money and go to the NBA

• Ben Osborne Posted: Apr.23 at 9:03 pm
  Good comments, indeed.

• that dude Posted: Apr.24 at 1:35 am
  cosign amf I did well in school, got my degree. Now I sit in a cube and make a fraction of what Jeremy Tyler will be making in europe.

• Yassi Posted: Apr.24 at 3:00 am
  its no problem getting your highschool diplomas abroad…….

• Moose Posted: Apr.24 at 6:45 am
  This is sad.

• john marzan Posted: Apr.24 at 9:16 am
  “Well yes, tennis, golf, hockey, baseball once you graduate high school, ice skating, etc. The biggest thing to me is tha the NBA has never been motivated to provide kids an option when college would groom them for free.” playing in the NBA is NOT a right. the nba is a business and will do what is in their best interest (like raising the age restriction). it is an exclusive league. and not every tom dick and harry in the inner cities and in europe, asia or latin america can play in the league even though a lot of delusional ballers from around the world want to play in this league. the nba is not obligated to provide a minor league for the kids. but i support jeremy tyler. more power to him.

• john marzan Posted: Apr.24 at 9:17 am
  parents should consider allowing european scouts to recruit their teenagers to play overseas, to be accompanied by a guardian or one of the parents.

• Allenp Posted: Apr.24 at 11:19 am
  Marzan
  The point is that other leagues provide minor leagues to develop talent as opposed to depending on free labor.

• Allenp Posted: Apr.24 at 11:31 am
  Most businesses have some connection with workforce development. The NBA has a relationship with workforce development. That relationship is built on a multi-billion-dollar business that masquerades as an educational system.
  The NBA has every right to refuse to develop a true minor league. But, it’s ludicrous to pretend that what they have done with the age limit and their minor league system is not connected to helping the NCAA remain profitable. There is a problem with that, and the sooner the government begins to treat sports leagues like every other business, and make them accountable for anti-trust laws, the better.

• Tavoris Posted: Apr.24 at 12:14 pm
  now this is getting out of hand…but, it’s not unlike Euro basketball

• carlton_g23@hotmail.com Posted: Apr.24 at 1:00 pm
  Wow. I was about to lambaste(I dont know if Im spelling that right or using it in a sentence correctly) Slamonline for not acknowledging this story until I remembered that they had a high school section.lol.
  Anyways, I agree with everything Ben and Ryan said. And I read that Wetzel column yesterday. Iit was awsome. Unsurprisingly, the talking head on ESPN(PTI,AroundTheHorn) almost unanimously berated this kid and his decision. Of course, none of them read the Wetzel column or had any facts straight but what else would you expect for the World Wide Leader…

• TRNYc Posted: Apr.24 at 1:01 pm
  I have mixed feelings. I live in San Diego and have had a few opportunities to see JT play in person. He’s the real deal that’s for sure. As for leaving high school early, I have a friend who did this, but at least he got his GED, Started working and instead of going “pro” went to college early. He now runs a successful web hosting business called SRI hosting. All I’m saying i that if you have exceptional talent or are extremely smart, etc you can go against the norm and be successful. Look at Doogie Howser

• Izzo Posted: Apr.24 at 1:01 pm
  Tavoris:It’s not unlike every other sport in the world.

• joshua Posted: Apr.24 at 5:07 pm
  don’t be stupid finish high school first then u can go the euro ..or w.e u wana go

• john marzan Posted: Apr.25 at 12:37 am
  allenp: “But, it’s ludicrous to pretend that what they have done with the age limit and their minor league system is not connected to helping the NCAA remain profitable.” it’s not. they’re doing it to improve the quality of basketball in the nba. that the ncaa benefits is a side issue. nobody’s stopping jeremy tyler from playing in the d-league or any other US basketball league. or go to europe. and from the owners perspective, i’m sure they’d rather shut down the nba in this bad economy than let the government nationalize the league. that is the dumbest suggestion yet from your side. sure sure, what we need is more govt intervention. because government is better in running a business (like fannie mae and freddie mac) than the private sector.

• john marzan Posted: Apr.25 at 1:29 am
  if this becomes a trend, and europe starts producing nba ready U-19 american players (maturity-wise and skills wise), then there is a possibility that the nba board of governors might consider lowering the age restrictions on rookies to avail themselves of those young american talents ASAP. in the past, it was tough for nba scouts to judge many of the young american talent because they’re playing against inferior competition. if more guys like jeremy tyler go to europe earlier and play against 30 yr old pros in europe and ex college stars from america, scouts and observers will have an easier time assessing players–which means for nba teams, the risks of drafting a young player based on potential will significantly be lowered. and if that risk of drafting a bust is lowered, then the nba may want to compete with europe for that young talent by lowering the age limit.

• milton sander Posted: Apr.25 at 8:33 am
  After reading the wetzel article, it makes sense for this kid to do this. My best friend’s cousin is a top prospect in NC, and he is thinking about changing schools because of lack of talent on his team and a bad coach. I think Jeremy is taking all this critisims because he is a black male, who is doing things that white tennis players and golfers have been doing for years. The NCAA is a corrupt institution and they need a drastic overhaul in the way they operate. That will never happen because the money that the tournament generates does not warrant any change. I hope that he does well and I wish him luck.

• Jon Posted: Apr.26 at 3:49 pm
  A while ago , I looked, out of curiosity, how many schools offer education in Spain in English language. I found a list of 73 schools for HS . It’s hard to imagine that there not one in every city that has a professional team.

• sam Posted: Apr.27 at 8:51 pm
  I think this will work out very well for him immediately. As for the future I don’t think the same can be said unless he plains on continuing his education overseas and earning his GED. He’ll make some good money now and in the NBA but he can’t play basketball forever. At some point in the future, lets face it, unless he saves and invests VERY well all of his money that he earns (very rare with pro athletes, as mentioned in an issue of Sports Illustrated a few months ago) he’s going to have to get a real job working at a desk to make ends meet. Also, its unlikely that he’ll want to go back to school after the NBA, so him at least earning his GED now is crucial to his future financial security, especially with the rut we’re in now. Despite all of this, with good management of his finances, I think this is a great move for him. Agreeing with some of you who posted above, I don’t think there is anything wrong or unusual with this move by him. It happens all the time in other sports. The only reason it is looked at in this manner is because he is from the United States. Perhaps we’re behind in development of high school athletes and this is something that will blaze a trail for future high school players. Anyway, I support his decision and hope it works well for him.

• John Brown Posted: Apr.30 at 3:39 pm
  Regarding Tyler’s move to the European pros hoops leagues, early from high school? I say it’s about time! And I hope that a viable American pro basketball minor league will finally come to fruition. For too long, the myth/ruse of the upper-level, basketball-playing “student-athlete” has been the norm. It and the NCAA are a total joke. There’s never been any “student” in the equation. None at all for many decades at DIV I. These hoops kids (with few exceptions) have proven through their lack of graduation rates, drop-out rates, ineligibilty, etc. that they – and the culture that most come from – simply don’t care at all about a free college education. It’s all about the money through hoops. The future is all but forgotten. And almost none will ever return to schooling of any kind. Most will end up bankrupt. Those are the facts. However, if Tyler is successful in Europe and in the NBA, maybe we can prevent a few more of these “future would-be pros” from taking the place of legitimate, qualified students in college classrooms. Has it ever been more apparent that we need a minor league for pro basketball? And income for DIV I college sports be damned! They’ll be fine. They’d be finer if they’d adopt a “need-based” system like the Ivies but that’s another discussion. With the graduation (or lack thereof) rates of coaches like Lute Olsen, Gary Williams, Bob Hutchins. et al. well documented, isn’t it time to put the Tylers of the world where they belong by choice – on the courts of a good, professional minor league? And if Tyler gets injured or craps out? He made his bed. Let him and other “short-sighted folk” lie in it. John Brown

• SLAM ONLINE | » The Canadian Express Posted: May.3 at 1:46 pm
  [...] for Virtus Roma, becoming the first American player to do so coming out of high school. Shoot, Jeremy Tyler appears to be heading there before he finishes high [...]

• TLR Posted: May.4 at 1:24 am
  he is doing the politically correct thing. he’s doing home schooling.

• antoine c Posted: May.7 at 11:13 pm
  The NBA is letting this punks get away with murder it that time for David Stern to say enough is enough i dont care how good you think you are you dont run my show

• Brian Posted: Jun.23 at 6:09 pm
  In a way what hes doing is stupid ,since he wont finish high-school and attend to college, but if I were him and I were to do such a decision, I would attend at least to some international school in the European country hes going to play with.. Im from Sweden and people who live here and play basketball , usually go to United states when they are around 14-15 years old(At the end of Primary School) to study and play high school basketball for at least a year , but they come back to sweden to finish high school without re-taking a year or anything…and this is normal in most of the european countries , the reason why , we dont have High School basketball teams competing against each other(or most of the schools) and we dont get lots of endorsements or recuitment from schools..instead we have Sports Clubs competing in a league for the children and when you graduate from High School , if you are very very good you sign a contract with one of the local clubs or the coach in the team that you play with advices you to a college coach and tries to help you with recuitment to a college in US , since most of the education are free in Europe(We pay higher taxes , thats why schools are free for people in Europe). However I dont know if its free for people from other countries such as US Citzens,people who have chinese citzenship or someone from Kenya?

• Zapata Posted: Apr.4 at 7:06 pm
  Didn’t Jeremy really leave because he allegedly attacked a ref in a San Diego locker room? Those are the rumors swirling around from certain San Diego County refs. I just wonder that if this supposed incident never occurred, would he have ended up at Louisville? Was going to Israel an expected decision based on this alleged incident? Hmmm?