December 5, 2008 4:49 pm  |  70 Comments

Links: Starbury (In The Name Of Love)

Stephon Marbury, Mike D’Antoni and the thorn in their pride…

by Lang Whitaker

As the Stephon Marbury saga has played out the last few months, I’ve watched with amusement (and bemusement). You long-term Linkstigators will recall that I’ve always liked Steph as a player and as a person — he’s always treated me well and I’ve always tried to be fair to him. (Well, maybe it was unfair to name my dog “Starbury,” but still.)

Anyway, when the whole Steph/D’Antoni situation blew up, I initially thought it was just hilarious that Donnie Walsh came in to run the Knicks and then made the exact same mistakes as Isiah Thomas in dealing with his biggest-salaried player, yet somehow escaped the blame that was heaped upon Zeke. I mean, you’ve got a guy who you don’t want on your team currently on your team. Your organization has shown absolutely zero compunction over spending wild amounts of money. So pay him and get on with it, right?

Then, when Steph either did or did not refuse to play last week, depending who’s side of the story you believe, I felt a sudden compulsion to take his side of things. After all, the Knicks had told him they had no place for him, that they didn’t want him to be a part of their team, that they basically didn’t even want Steph to be around. They supposedly said this to him privately and then said it rather publicly, as well.

Then, suddenly and desperately, they needed him. And Steph wasn’t there for them.

Good for him, I thought. Yes, I know the Knicks are paying Stephon literally unimaginable amounts of money to be on their team. But they said they didn’t want him. They were done with Steph, so why shouldn’t he be done with them?

Well, obviously, he shouldn’t be done with them because they pay him $21 million a year to play for them. I think, all things being equal, in any similar case, Steph would have played. But the Knicks committed a cardinal sin: They hurt Steph’s feelings. And feelings can run wild sometimes. Hurt feelings, even more so.

The first basketball game of my varsity career came in the winter of my 11th grade year. I’d spent the entire previous year playing on the JV team, contributing mightily to our 0-12 record, and then spent the spring working out and scrimmaging with the varsity guys after school every day. I’d gone away to summer camp with the varsity team for a week, played summer league games throughout July and August, practiced with the team every day once school started up again. I’d spent countless hours working out, getting ready, doing (or at least trying to do) every single thing the coach asked of me, and I couldn’t wait for the season to start. I knew I wasn’t going to get sizable playing time, but I also knew how much I’d sacrificed and how much being a part of this team meant to me.

All of the local papers had us picked to win our region, and enough kids at school had seen an intra-squad exhibition game our Coach had scheduled (and sold tickets for in order to generate some cash) to know we weren’t the average sports team at our school, North Fulton High School. (NFHS had historically prided itself on academics, which means…well, you know.)

We would tip our season off against Cathedral Academy, a small private school that had won the Class A championship the year before and would be returning most of their players, including the 6-8 son of NBA Hall of Famer Jerry Lucas.

On Tuesday morning, the day of our first game, I woke up in a panic, realizing I was late for my first game with the varsity. I jumped out of bed, threw on my uniform, hopped in my car and sped up to the school, pulling into the parking lot while the game was in progress. I entered the gym through a back door and took a seat on the end of the bench, as inconspicuous as anyone showing up halfway through a game could think they were being. Coach leaned forward from his seat and made eye contact with me, but said nothing, rocking back in his seat and returning his glare to the game.

I sat up in bed, my t-shirt soaked through with sweat. It was the middle of the night, and I was having a nightmare. I had some variation on that dream at least once a week until I was in college.

Tuesday afternoon, after what felt like an endless day in classes, we took a school bus over to our opponent’s school. As our bus pulled in at Cathedral, I peered out the window to find a small crowd of Cathedral students waiting on us. There’s a certain satisfaction that comes with walking into a gym in the midst of a crowd of 6-8 and 6-11 guys, like you are no longer a 6-foot, merely average guy, but their height has somehow transferred onto you.

Coach’s pre-game talk was subdued, reminding us of how much we’d already been through and how much was yet to come, his voice never rising above a normal speaking tone. I closed my eyes and tried not to think about anything. When I opened my eyes I couldn’t even see Coach from my vantage point, as I was stuffed into a corner of the room, so I just stared down at the carpet. (Yep, carpet. We were on the road and the locker room given to us was a  spare classroom. Around the holidays we played in a tournament at Georgia State and for a locker room were given a locker room that was being built and was still an actual construction site one floor below the gym. When we lost our first game of the season Coach destroyed that area, knocking over lockers and kicking out metal beams. Now that was awesome.)

Just before we jogged onto the court, Coach asked us all to huddle up. As we assembled around him, he produced a few packages of chewing gum, offering sticks to anyone interested. I took two pieces and, since warm-up suits don’t have pockets, stuffed them into my sock. We all put our hands in the middle, and before I knew what was happening, Two of our vets started counting down, “5, 4, 3…” On one, all the vets launched into The Lord’s Prayer. By the time they got to “hallowed be thy name,” the rest of us had joined in. On the way out onto the court, my friend Mike whispered to me that he’d never learned the thing, so he just mumbled along and closed his eyes.

We’d worked up a pregame routine that had us run out onto the court and then run through a few drills. It was nothing strenuous, just something to make us look organized. Dunking was not allowed during pregame warm-ups, so our bigs kept going up for ferocious dunks and then dropping it softly through at the last minute.

The game was almost anti-climactic. The crowd wanted to see us run and dunk, us white guys on the bench wanted to see us run and dunk, but our best player got into foul trouble early on, and with him on the bench, we weren’t able to get things going. At the half we were ahead, but it was just 38-33.

At halftime Coach lit into us, and when the second half started we were a new team — hitting threes, dunking, blocking shots. And we really looked awesome. We started opening up a lead, and by the start of the fourth quarter it was a sizeable advantage. Which was when I started prepping to get in the game.

Technically, I was the third-string point guard. I was a junior, and our starting point guard was also a junior. He was 6-5, was also the starting QB on our football team, could jump out of the gym and ended up getting a D1 basketball scholarship. So I understood that I probably wasn’t going to unseat or take minutes from him. I was fine with that. The back-up point guard was a true freshman named Barry. He’d killed at a local middle school the previous year, and Coach immediately put him on the varsity and began grooming him. He was shorter than I was, but he was fast as lightning and could drive to the rim at will; in retrospect, he reminds me of Devin Harris. Every day in practice, when we split into first and second teams to scrimmage, Barry was a reserve with the first team (the red team) and I basically ran the second team (the white team, for obvious reasons). I’d spent the previous six months going up against the starting point guard every single day, which definitely made me a better player.

(Our rotation changed dramatically at midseason when both our best player and Barry were declared academically ineligible and suddenly I was the second-best ball-handler on the team. My minutes didn’t change so much — the starter just played more.)

Now here we were. The game was in hand, and there was no reason — at least not one that I could come up with at the time — that I shouldn’t be on the court. With one minute to go, Coach started yanking the starters. Finally, with 8 seconds to go, he asked me if I wanted to play.

My initial reaction was to say, Are you kidding? With eight seconds left? Seriously, he wanted me now? After 18 months of sacrificing pretty much every available moment of my free time, he wanted me now? With 8 seconds left? What, did he want me to refill the water bottles after the game, too?

It felt demeaning, that he wanted me to play for just 8 seconds. It hurt my feelings, wounded my pride. I wasn’t as good as the starters, I knew that and could accept that. But I wasn’t this bad, was I? Coach could only trust me to play with double-digit lead and 8 seconds left on the clock?

All that processing happened in less than a second. I looked back up and coach and immediately said “Yeah,” and I saw my first action of the season. I blocked out the shooter after a free throw and then threw the ball inbounds to Mike, who ran down and missed a three at the buzzer. We won 83-67, making us 1-0.

On the bus ride home, I started parsing Coach’s language. After all, he hadn’t told me to check into the game, he’d *asked* me if I wanted to play: “Do you want to go in?” So maybe, I supposed, he realized it was a little demeaning to send someone in with 8 seconds left and he was leaving the decision up to me. What if I’d said no? What if I’d said, “Actually, Coach, I’m good. The game’s over, we’re going to win, I don’t need to stand on the court for 8 seconds. I’m better than that. Let’s just save it for the next game.”

Of course, playing for this team wasn’t officially my job, but in a strange way it was exactly like a job. I wasn’t being paid $20 million to be a member of the team, but I did have a place on a team that a lot of other people wanted. I’d beat out dozens of other kids to make the team. I’d sacrificed, I’d busted my tail, I’d made it. And now it felt like, for whatever reason, my Coach thought I wasn’t good enough. At the very least, it seemed like he didn’t believe in me.

And that hurt my feelings.

I learned a lot that season about minimizing my own expectations in order to be a part of something larger, something greater than me. It wasn’t always easy, and I did my share of venting behind the scenes, but I never said a word to coach about being unhappy with my playing time. I knew that I was good enough, that I could hold my own (or at least not get embarrassed) against anyone out there. I thought I’d put in enough work to be a bigger part of the team. If I’d gone to a smaller school or a school with a worse team, I’m sure I could have logged more minutes. But I wanted to be a part of something special. (Oh, and about five games into the season, I learned that if I lobbied our assistant coach, he could sneak in a word with the head coach and get me into more games.)

As it turned out, our Coach knew what he was doing — we finished the season 26-4. And because I trusted my coach, I was willing to sublimate myself to the will of the team. The key part there is the trust. I liked Coach, believed him, did what he asked me to do.

There was an interesting AP story the other day about the Marbury mess that looked at it as a simple employee/employer relationship. As the story says:

So it’s natural — if not justified — that Marbury would interpret coach Mike D’Antoni’s actions as malicious no matter the intent. An employer trying to repair a splintered relationship must be absolutely clear in all communication, she said. Otherwise, say, Marbury may claim he perceived D’Antoni’s request that he play to be optional, while the coach considers it an order.

So should the Knicks have bought out Marbury when he wasn’t in their plans earlier this season, even if it meant paying him money he didn’t earn? Absolutely, Rousseau said. Refusing to pay up is an irrationally emotional decision, and keeping a disgruntled employee under those circumstances only hurts co-workers — in this case, his teammates.

Which isn’t exactly true: Besides hurting his teammates, it hurts Stephon. You think it’s fun being forced to be somewhere you know you’re not wanted?

Basically, Steph doesn’t trust Mike D’Antoni. He said it himself: “I wouldn’t trust him to walk my dog across the street.” D’Antoni came in with a chance to win Steph over and, at the very least, keep him around and get something out of their $21 million investment other than a headache and a lot of bad PR. D’Antoni and Donnie Walsh blew that chance.

So while I see the Knicks’ side of things — we pay him and he should do what we say — I also see Steph’s side of things. He wants to play basketball, but more than that, it seems to me that he just wants to be wanted. If the Knicks had approached this entire thing differently, would it have played out better?

For instance, why didn’t the Knicks approach Steph quietly back in August, explain that they had no use for him and ask him to take a $2-3 million cut in exchange for his freedom? Did D’Antoni really not know at that time that he wasn’t going to play Steph? If so, that’s a costly delay to make up your mind.

Some involved might say differently, at least on the record, but I truly believe this came down to a case of the Knicks and Stephon Marbury both not wanting to lose a very public battle of pride.

And right now, they’re both losing.

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  • Moose Posted: Dec.5 at 4:50 pm
    FIRZT

  • Moose Posted: Dec.5 at 4:52 pm
    I am tired of the Marbury saga. Get angry at me all you want everybody, I’m just a bit sick of seeing his name in every headline–for NOT playing. Y’all can take that response, no?

  • Steve Posted: Dec.5 at 4:58 pm
    I’d agree with you if Stephon were 17.

  • Millertime Posted: Dec.5 at 4:58 pm
    “… the Knicks are paying Stephon literally unimaginable amounts of money…” … next paragraph… “… they pay him $21 million a year…” I don’t get it, is it an unimaginable amount, or, in fact, a specific, quantitative amount..?

  • Lang Whitaker Posted: Dec.5 at 5:05 pm
    Both. Have a Miller.

  • what Posted: Dec.5 at 5:06 pm
    Feelings don’t matter if you are getting paid $21 million. Just my opinion.

  • JPLS Posted: Dec.5 at 5:06 pm
    I have to agree with Moose, get Starbury out of the news already. Dude can’t be erased from the memories of many fans fast enough.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.5 at 5:08 pm

  • Allenp Posted: Dec.5 at 5:12 pm
    Yo, this is very similar to a link I posted on another post. That author as said that Steph is a very sensitive and emotional dude and is loyal until he feels betrayed.
    Thanks for writing this.

  • Allenp Posted: Dec.5 at 5:14 pm
    What’s the slave threshold?
    How much money is so much money that it doesn’t matter what your employer does to you, you suck it up and deal with it without complaining, pouting or reacting in anyway?
    How much buys your manhood?
    Or, rather, your humanity?
    I can deal with a lot of stuff to support my family and make a life. But, there is a line I will not cross. Everybody sets their line at a different place and assuming everbody’s line is the same as our own is just wrong.

  • Adam T Posted: Dec.5 at 5:14 pm
    Lang, excellent post, it shines some light on the situation. When I first heard he had refused to play, I wasn’t shocked nor upset as a basketball fan. And basically what you wrote near the end summed up why I thought like I did…Steph aint a saint, but he’s hardly a Knick either

  • Adam T Posted: Dec.5 at 5:15 pm
    AllenP, well said

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.5 at 5:16 pm
    Lang, I agree. Well-spoken.

  • awesomepossum Posted: Dec.5 at 5:17 pm
    nice one lang.

  • BETCATS Posted: Dec.5 at 5:23 pm
    i am not gonna judge marbury, but if somebody said that they wanted me to stay away from their organization, and not to play, then all the sudden their situation changes, and they need me, i dont think i would be eager to help them. But their are 21 million reasons why i should, but just as many for why i shouldnt.

  • Wiz Posted: Dec.5 at 5:32 pm
    8 seconds dam i would have gave him the ni**a please look, i wouldnt even go in a nba game for 8 seconds

  • ccl1111 Posted: Dec.5 at 5:45 pm
    So what if the Knicks were mean to him. So what. He’s getting paid 21 mil. He should do anything the team requests. If he doesn’t want to put up with the treatment, he should quit. If someone’s paying you, you do what they tell you or you get fired (w/no salary). That’s the way it works in the real world. Why should it be different for Steph? He can NOT do what his employer tells him to do and he should still get paid??? First of all, he’s making a jillion more $$ than your average Joe. Then he should have softer rules than Joe too??? Nah. No way.

  • Orlando Woolridge Posted: Dec.5 at 5:47 pm
    compunction…nice one, Lang.

  • Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.5 at 5:50 pm
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    STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!
    STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!
    STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!STARBURY!!!

  • BETCATS Posted: Dec.5 at 5:50 pm
    HOOT! HOOT! LINK!

  • beatsmiff Posted: Dec.5 at 5:52 pm
    who cares about marbury. he’s a has been that never lived up to his talent like many others. the only difference is he kept out of trouble so he stayed in the league.

  • shean combs Posted: Dec.5 at 5:53 pm
    Hey Lang, I grew up a Marbury fan all through my highschool years, so just like you, I’ve always rooted for him, better or worse. His rookie class is the class that is part of my generation. While everyone was an Iverson fan when both entered the league, I loved the fact that I was the one guy who thought Marbury was better than anyone his year pound for pound. Being a kid back then, I felt I had more street cred being a fan of Marbury over Iverson, who was already gaining commercial status in his rookie year. I remember how badly I wanted to cop his first All-white And 1 joints, but since I was up here in Canada and on the budget of 15-yr old without a job, I could only dream (for the record, if I come across those today, I’d get em in a heartbeat). Any T-Wolves game I could catch was a treat as I tried to mimic my game after him, and he really made the point guard position the most prestigious and exciting position on the floor for me. Throughout the years I’ve followed Starbury and admittedly it’s been painful at times to give in to the guys at the sports bar, and the media, who told me that Marbury will never win anything, still, I was a fan. Heck, the day he went to NY I seriously thought I was dreaming for a sec. My point is: thanks Lang, for vindicating Steph

  • Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.5 at 5:56 pm
    I’m gonna miss this guy…(and the other cartoon…) I wonder who is the next cartoon…? Beasley…?Who knows…there will be a huge void when both of them are gone that i hope a “cat” is gonna fill for the joy of everybody.

  • BETCATS Posted: Dec.5 at 6:01 pm
    To find the next Starbury, follow this algebraic formula: Derrick Rose/Mario Chalmbers+Nate Robinson*2-Chris Paul=sum of X1-X2

  • Wes Posted: Dec.5 at 6:04 pm
    1. This is a great story.
    2. If you look at the best teams in the league - they’re whole team contributes. The best coaches find ways to utilize everyone’s talent, if not every game, then most games. It’s sad and you KNOW its personal because D’Antoni never had a problem putting his DEEP bench in games in Phoenix.
    3. And this is what I think you were getting at, I can’t decide who’s more wrong: the coach who implies that you’re not good enough, or the player who says “eat the curb” after being called upon too late. It’s mad emo for both.

  • Wes Posted: Dec.5 at 6:07 pm
    Steph doesnt need $21M, he LOVES basketball…

  • Moose Posted: Dec.5 at 6:16 pm

  • Justin Walsh Posted: Dec.5 at 6:17 pm
    deep stuff. This is almost too deep. I need to hold my breath and dive that’s how deep this is. By the way 95% of the time I can’t stand dual sport QB/PG stars. They are almost always deuche bags. Idk about yours Lang, but I couldn’t stand ours.

  • James aka... Posted: Dec.5 at 6:28 pm
    Being paid to not work is not close to that threshold. I think the knicks are the wrong party here, but Stephon’s maltreatment is everyone elses dream come true. All thats happened is that he has ben socially isolated from some teamates, and i guess at this point other team personnel. If they were forcing him to film two guards one cup in the locker room, the case for an affront to dignity could be made. Right now, if he really wants to play with nba level talent, he can take a reduced buyout. If he wants the money more, he can get caught up in life until his contract expires, and go play in europe afterwards.

  • ciolkstar Posted: Dec.5 at 6:34 pm
    Does anyone actually care about all this anymore? I know I don’t. I’m exhausted just looking at the length of the piece and the comments.

  • ciolkstar Posted: Dec.5 at 6:48 pm
    Nice piece. I remember hearing D’antoni saying that Marbury might have a spot if there is an injury and immediately thought “Is Steph gonna play that sh!t?” Steph just feels he’s entitled to more respect tahn he’s gotten from D’Antoni and Walsh, and maybe he’s right?
    I can’t say I agree with the way things have been handled by either side. All I know is that I’m really tired of hearing about Steph and the Knicks endlessly…Is there any chance that this will go on like this all season?

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.5 at 8:08 pm
    The noisome weeds, that without profit suck
    The soil’s fertility from wholesome flowers.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.5 at 8:09 pm
    Or

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.5 at 8:09 pm
    Superfluous branches
    We lop away that bearing boughs may live

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.5 at 8:10 pm
    William Shakespeare, “Richard II”

  • Ryan Jones Posted: Dec.5 at 8:49 pm
    A U2 reference in the headline, a Black Crowes shout-out in the dek… Clearly, Lang wrote this one just for me. I am touched.

  • Bostwik Posted: Dec.5 at 9:46 pm
    I want my 8 bucks back from his shoes. Cheapest things on earth.

  • Dma Posted: Dec.5 at 10:56 pm
    the difference between you and marbury, lang, is the fact that the team NEEDED him, they only had 7 players available to play. you on the other hand weren’t exactly needed to play that game. but let’s say the starting PG got injured with 5 minutes to go. would you feel the same had your coach asked you to go in the game?

  • Dark Posted: Dec.6 at 12:11 am
    Great writeup. D’Antoni’s got himself an ego also.

  • doyouwantmore Posted: Dec.6 at 12:17 am
    YES. Co-sign Dma. Now what if the starting PG was hurt, playing for a million bucks, and you were getting 20 mil? To me this is about manhood and self-respect. Real men put their responsibilities before their feelings. I’d rather work hard for twenty bucks than sit on my ass and make twenty bucks.

  • JoeMama Posted: Dec.6 at 12:25 am
    Guys you gotta remember basketball is not all about money, infact it shouldn’t ever have to do with money. Yes we all love money, and blah but as a kid I fell in love with basketball not because I was getting paid to whoop peeps around but because I was naturally good at it, it was to me, the greatest game ever invented, and atop of all that you can play it anytime! 1-on-1 or 5-on-5 by yourself or with ur dad and you will always leave the court with a sense of pride, a sense of greatness, and a sense of reality. Basketball is just that game that connect players to a sensual life, a game which has great meaning. And to treat Marbury like a slave, or a criminal just because he is the most paid individual on that team is FKD. I don’t blame him for not playing, even tho he was infact forced not to play, he wouldnt have played either way, cuz D’antoni is a bastard, he is truly a loudmouth individual and probably makes Marbury feels like crap. This game was meant to be enjoyed by every stunning shot that goes into that basketball..to every block that is sent to the stands..and even those breath-taking wins determined by the last few seconds. Basketball is just that game and I feel a great despair for Stef, because he made it into the league but the Knicks organization is trying to make him non-existant and thats hurtful to anyone, especially a basketball player. So I agree with this article to the fullest and hope people can realize past these events [which I too hope can finally be put to a hault, it is simply ridiculous]. NBA I LOVE THIS GAME!

  • doyouwantmore Posted: Dec.6 at 2:18 am
    How would you feel if you were a soldier fighting a losing battle while you’re outnumbered and one guy, the guy with the best equipment and most talent (and money), decided he didn’t want to fight because his feelings were hurt? You’d be pissed. You might even shoot your own guy in the head while you were trapped in that foxhole, if he wasn’t going to join the fight anyway.

  • Kieran Posted: Dec.6 at 7:47 am
    Im sorry for all the naive peeps on here but basketball is all about money (to the people who run it anyway) feelings dont and shouldnt be taken into account. Marbury should of played when asked, who cares if his feelings were hurt?

  • Dave Posted: Dec.6 at 8:55 am
    Thanks to Allenp for talking sense there. I do have to wonder how many of your guys who say ‘feelings don’t count at 21mil” would pony up for a ride at the local gay bar for that much cash… just sayin’. What I think about most with Starbury is that his lifelong dream was playing for the Knicks… and now look at what his lifelong dream has turned into. How’s that not going to be an incredible hurt?

  • Petter Posted: Dec.6 at 10:12 am
    Kieran: Wow, that´s cold. Even though I guess a lot of players would have handled a situation like this better than Starbury, I can definitly relate to him. They publicly said that he had no place there, and then comes back and beg him to play for them because of injuries? That is “disrespect”, nothing more nothing less.

  • el-bot Posted: Dec.6 at 11:33 am
    punish him, send him to euro-league or worse; NBL

  • [...] – Down by three with 5.7 seconds left, Duhon inexplicably passes up an open three to force it to Al Harrington. Shot falls short. Hawks win. I’ll tell you what: I know a point guard on that roster who would have taken that shot. Crap. I tried, and I just couldn’t resist. [...]

  • KA Posted: Dec.6 at 12:37 pm
    hey guys if u guys worked a job for a grand would you take an extra 500 so the boss can treat you like sheet? its not about the money, its not about the money, its not about the money. steph is no uncle tom n word.

  • Harlem_World Posted: Dec.6 at 2:22 pm
    Nice piece Lang. But a word on the coaching situation, deep bench players never understand (at the time) why they don’t get more time - even in blowouts. Thing is, when you’re coaching, every opportunity is an opportunity to get better and even when you’re up by 20, you’re still thinking about 2nd string, rather than 3rd string minutes. 2nd string will have the chance to bail you out of tight spots of adversity later in the year if you can get them more playing time early, 3rd string most probably not. Also, as players, 3rd string (and some 2nd string) guys always say ‘I never made any mistakes’ etc - but it isn’t about not making mistakes, its about what are you ADDING to the mix that we don’t already have? I’m that guy who’s been 2nd string, starter and eventually the go to guy over the years and now coach AAU, so understand the full spectrum. Nice write up. Oh and…FREE STEPH!!!!

  • Tarzan Cooper Posted: Dec.6 at 3:10 pm
    stephon marbury used to be a good basketball player….he could contribute to a team, hopefully he will get bought out soon

  • Paul Roth Posted: Dec.6 at 3:23 pm
    Uh, Lang, if this had been Kobe you would have had a totally different take. Don’t try to deny it. I’m sorry, I love basketball and I love the links, but my bete noire is people who feel for the travails of spoiled millionaires…no matter who is right or wrong in this case (rich employer, rich employee), I hardly think it measures up as a labor dispute/tragedy. But if it could make you lose your sense of humor and write some purple love poem to the inspiration for your dog’s name, it can’t be all a loss.

  • stu Posted: Dec.6 at 4:14 pm
    i just can’t see a coach looking at steph and thinking “let’s make a deal for him, he’s what we need to get over the hump”.. teams with shoot first point guards simply do not win championships. they just don’t. steph does have an impressive career assist average, can’t argue that, i just think he needs to be on a squad where he doesn’t have to be the top dog.. i would love to see him play with a bonafide superstar again.. he’s a great “all star game” player, loves setting dudes up, and we all saw how he played with KG.. i think that dynamic could get him “back” to being the old steph.. imagine him signing for the vet. minimum with the lake show after his buyout? he wouldn’t need the money.. phil could zen him into the system, steph would have a shot at a ring, and LA wouldn’t give up any pieces of its future….. hey lang, was shareef on your squad?.. stevie franchise.. stevie franchise.. stevie franchise..

  • Mark Z Posted: Dec.6 at 4:18 pm
    Good story, Lang. Blame falls on both sides in this case. Maybe MSG makes people stupid. Walsh & D’Antoni were supposed to be smarter. They’re not any better than Brown or Thomas or Layden. Is it Curse of Ewing? Maybe Spike is right…

  • Bryant Reeves Posted: Dec.6 at 4:27 pm
    The only ones who have been wronged in this situation are fans of the NBA and the Knicks. Neither D’antoni, nor Marbury, deserve anything but contempt. Both the Knicks and Marbury could have (should have) resolved this during the off season, but both instead focused on greed. This situation has nothing to do with basketball and everything to do with $$$.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.6 at 5:40 pm
    ALL ALONE 3. Stephon Martyrbury?

  • Bryant Reeves Posted: Dec.6 at 7:46 pm
    nice russ - someone needs to make that into a shirt

  • doyouwantmore Posted: Dec.6 at 11:03 pm
    Co-sign Big Country

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.7 at 1:20 am
    @ Wes: Really? Of all words you choose “emo”? Wow…

  • chintao Posted: Dec.7 at 9:39 pm
    @ doyouwantmore ==> Think bigger. Now, imagine that the U.S. government has done everything in its power to alienate the most talented guy in your foxhole. It has gone out of its way to insult him personally, including going so far as to tell him that it thinks he is worthless to it. Further, it wants to send him on a suicide mission (i.e. - it will have no use for him after this run). In fact, this type of isht really does happen. Why couldn’t the soldiers in Iraq get fully armored vehicles (in fact, I’m not certain that they have thme yet)? What soldier has benefitted from the war? Whether we’re talking corporate (the Knicks organization) or government (which these days, has become a sort of shadow corporation and a proxy for corporate interest), people are just tools. Although patriotism and loyalty are painted as high-minded concepts, they are in fact shallow buzzwords, used to prod people into situations in which they sacrifice so that the top members of the organization can reap the real benefits.

  • LOL at Lang Posted: Dec.7 at 11:41 pm
    Fellas, u hear that? It is a sin to hurt Marbury’s feeling. Be careful with him….ok?

  • doyouwantmore Posted: Dec.8 at 12:26 am
    Thanks Chintao for inflating the metaphor so large that it stops applying to basketball. I used to have the exact same views when I was younger. But honestly dude that flavor-of-the-month short-sighted pseudo-intellectual rap-album political ideology is thin. Real real thin.

  • doyouwantmore Posted: Dec.8 at 12:34 am
    Not trying to jack the thread but…man, there’s a really obvious mentality where someone just starts to gain some brand-new kind of world-view and political ideology (usually around college-age) and starts spouting off about what’s wrong with the world and how the ‘man’ is keeping people down and all that crap. Yeah, sure it’s true to some extent, but the oversimplification of an undeveloped, if enthusiastic, political ideology is like a trap built to catch fools. People wearing Che Guevara shirts are usually the ones who are the most sure about how right they are. At least Marbury would take your side homie.

  • Do Work Posted: Dec.8 at 1:08 am
    that story you told about youre varsity experience hit home real hard with me lang. i played sparingly my senior year despite being the most athletic player on the team and leaving it all on the floor every day in practice. there was one game that was very similar to youre story about only getting to play 8 seconds at the end of the game. we were up 20 throughout the whole game and finally with about 15 seconds left the coach comes down the bench and makes it a big deal that i’m getting in to play, and i sure as hell did not feel like going in but i did because it was the right thing to do. my season was basically like that game over and over again until we lost in the state championship game that year. when it was all over with i was glad i stuck it out, as i’m sure you are. marbury is one of my favorite players because he started his career in my home state of minnesota and got the t’wolves to the playoffs, and i’ll always have his back for how he inspired me back in 2nd grade. he should have gone in just because it was the right thing to do but i totally understand why he wouldn’t want to play, why would he try to help out people that don’t want him around? you are one of the realest journalists out there lang, keep it up.

  • jbn74sb Posted: Dec.8 at 1:57 pm
    The working title for this was “I Was A Scrub”, by Lang Whitaker.

  • chintao Posted: Dec.8 at 11:11 pm
    doyouwantmore ==> Just because you drink the Kool-Aid and invest in the System, that doesn’t mean that the System is ethically justifiable or in any way correct. There is a trap to catch fools. Unfortunately, it seems that you haven’t been able to spot it yet. “The greatest trick that the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.” The same goes for the System. I’ve looked over what has gone down on these posts, and what actually seems to be happening is something quite personal between you and me. You hate me, because you used to be me. Now that you are someone different, you have only two choices: 1) hate what you used to be; or, 2) hate who you are now. Naturally, the former is the easier choice, as it requires less outward upheaval. Unfortunately, it does not resolve the inner conflict you face. Your true and negative feelings about who you have become may always haunt you on some level.

  • [...] Lang Whitaker is a guy who’s work I’ve been a fan of, and he recently wrote a piece about his take on the Marbury saga. [...]

  • Allenp Posted: Dec.10 at 2:10 pm
    Damn, I was on a comment hiatus, but the back and forth between chintao and doyouwantmore got really personal. Interesting though.

  • Joey Posted: Dec.10 at 7:44 pm
    Nice post Lang. I’m definitely on Marbury’s side for this one. The Knicks have been run HORRIBLY and this $21 mil investment in one of the best PGs in the L not too long ago has been going to waste for so long. As Lang said- this situation could’ve somewhat been saved when D’Antoni came aboard w/ his Run & Gun style. I doubt its Mike’s fault though - Walsh runs the show - the coach just didn’t want Marbury enough to stick his neck out for him. Bottom line - the Knicks put themselves in this predicament a long time ago. They need to buy everyone out and draft a college team. Knicks suck

  • Dacre Posted: Dec.13 at 5:33 pm
    My eyes hurt.

  • Paul Posted: Dec.17 at 10:42 am
    If you’re GUARANTEED $21 million it’s going to skew your judgement. I would bet my money that anyone, ANYONE having done the same job since they can remember will tire of it from time to time. When this happens your motivation is that you want to make a better life and situation for you and your family, and money drives that before anything else. Steph doesn’t have that money problem, so he struggles with his own complacency, which is easier given he’s guaranteed that money. Who doesn’t gripe about their employer? Let’s all realise that the professional athletes have grown up in a bubble where the exposure to the reality that you & I experience just isn’t present. No doubt Steph would still be ballin’ regardless of the money. The reality of this is the egos of the people involved and the bigger picture with the Knicks. Steph has made himself the target to an extent, but it’s been allowed to grow out of control, and the egos brought into fix the situation can’t appeal to his complacency and apparent lack of professionalism. The most interesting thing is that Steph will be AWESOME next year as he’ll have numerous points to prove and probably a minimum qualifying offer to motivate him.

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