Tuesday, October 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm  |  28 responses

David Falk Q + A, Pt. 1

The GOAT of agents talks LeBron, collective bargaining and Worldwide Wes.

SLAM: It doesn’t make sense. Agents are very influential in the lives of their players. Why wouldn’t the union want to keep them up to speed on everything?

DF: Absolutely they are. Other than the players on the executive committee, if you asked 95 percent of the players in the League, maybe 98 percent: Who do you trust more? Your own agent, that you picked to manage your life and your contract, or the union? They don’t even know the union very well. It’s not a knock on the union. It’s just a fact of life that players spend dramatically more time with their individual agent, so at the end of the day, I would hope Evan Turner, Greg Monroe, Jeff Green would say to me, ‘What do you think of the union’s proposal? You’re my adviser.’ I told Billy on the first day he got the job that this was a political process. You need to take the top 10 agents, put them in a room and let them box each other’s ears in over what is a good deal for the players, come out with a consensus and everyone be unified and go to the players and say this is what we need to get. I think it’s happening a little bit more than it did in 1998. If you see how baseball does it, it’s light years different. That’s one of Stern’s many elements of genius. The owners are much more iconoclastic than the players. These are billionaires, captains of industry. You’ve got Ted Leonsis, Mark Cuban, Paul Allen, Stan Kroenke, James Dolan. These guys are very individualistic people and his job is to mold a consensus. He has 30 owners. You don’t need 30 agents to form a consensus. If you took Arn Tellem and Bill Duffy, that’s 40 percent of the NBA with two guys. Those guys need to be on the team. I don’t blame Billy for that because he didn’t create that environment, he inherited it from his predecessors. But you have to change it.

SLAM: Where do you see this going? Will there be a lockout?

DF: I’ve said for the last year, it’s beyond my imagination that both parties can be dumb enough in the current economic climate with unemployment at 20 percent, more Americans under the poverty line than anytime during the last 60 years, that they’re going to complain that players making an average salary of $5.4 million aren’t compensated enough or that we should be crying for owners losing $10-20 million, who are billionaires. People can’t pay their mortgages, can’t keep their houses. I’ve told both sides in the strongest way that the collective bargaining negotiation is about creating rules that make the game better. If the game is better, both sides will prosper. In the court of public opinion, there is zero sympathy for fat cat players who want to make more money or fat cat owners who are losing money because they’re doing the kind of dumb things they did this summer. No sympathy at all.

SLAM: When I attended the union press conference at All-Star break in Dallas, Billy Hunter had mentioned that the owners were trying to limit everything in their first proposal including changes to the max—

DF: Whose fault is that? The union needs to go to bat for the max players. That’s who brings in the gate. There’s a growing conflict that really didn’t exist to the same level 20 years ago. There is a conflict between the interests of guys like Kobe and LeBron and the interest of the guy who wants to make the midlevel exemption. When the midlevel exemption came out, it was initiated at $2.2 million. Now it’s at $7 million. The stakes are a lot better. Now where has that excess money come out of? It’s come out of the max.

SLAM: In the same presser, Billy also said that the owners wanted to get rid of the midlevel exemption, all exemptions actually, and the union clearly doesn’t agree.

DF: They want to change the percentage of revenues that players receive. And I think they want to get rid of the midlevel exemption. To me, depending on what the package is, you need to address the distribution of revenue amongst the players in a way that reflects—this isn’t communism, it’s capitalism. The guys who earn it should get paid. They shouldn’t be subsidies to guys that don’t deserve it. I will go back to what you said about Donnie Nelson. I would say most people would agree with that. So why would you want to give a person that doesn’t have the same level of motivation an incentive to not play hard? If you know that they’re not incentivized by nature, if they’re DNA is getting a little security and they’re not going to work as hard, why would you want to incentivize a person not to work as hard? That is the whole purpose of compensation structure, to incentivize people to do what you want them to do. If you want them to play hard, the superstars don’t need financial security. They want to do it for their place in the sun. Players that don’t have that talent and drive, need to be incentivized to play hard. I think you have to treat those two classes of players differently.

SLAM: Don’t you think most agents would fight what you’re talking about?

DF: Agents that have the top players should be fighting for the top players and agents that don’t have the top players should be fighting for their guys. That’s why at the end of the day, if you can’t get everyone in the room to come to a consensus, you will have a conflict of interest. Do you think that months after signing $100 million deals that LeBron, DWade, Chris Bosh, Amar’e Stoudemire, Joe Johnson are going to be excited about getting locked out and losing $20 million so that a guy on their team who is probably worth $2 million can make $4 million?

SLAM: Probably not. [Laughs]

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Falks’s ideas on max players sound good in this context, but consider them in the larger context.
    More importantly, the max players have more power and cache, but they do not make the league by themselves. Without talented players at the lower end of the spectrum, many of whom do work very hard but weren’t blessed with the physical gifts of their superstar peers, you have a bunch of bums running around bringing down the quality of the whole product.
    If the top players don’t sacrifice some of their revenue to create more equality for lower tier players, you have a situation where they create friction between the upper tier and lower tier, and give the owners more leverage down the road. Yes, the superstars will always be the face of the league, but they have a finite career and are susceptible to the machinations of management at a far greater rate when they fail to develop the support of the less talented peers.
    In my opinion at least.
    Falk is expressing a very pro-capitalistic approach to the NBA, and that’s fine, but it must be noted that there are drawbacks to that approach.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Nima, great work. Solid questions and thorough answers. Really enjoyed it. And this “But it wasn’t really news. Everyone I knew told me a month before that he was going to Miami.” Told you so.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Hmm…sometimes I still wonder, did David Falk help Michael Jordan blow the hell up in the endorsements business or did Michael Jordan help David Falk blow the hell up in the sports agencies business?

  • http://www.walshsportsblog.com Kevin

    It a synergy. Falk and ESPN helped Jordan, who helped them, who helped Falk, which helped the NBA grow. The NBA popularity helped all of them. Simply put, a successful cycle of growth.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Didn’t Iverson’s marketing career blow up after he dropped Falk? Dude is obviously smart and talented, I just don’t know.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nima Zarrabi

    @AllenP: You bring up some good points. Falk fully understands there are good players other than max guys. I think he believes there probably have been more mistakes made in giving guys midlevel $ that didn’t deserve it rather than guys who have earned it. For every Ron Artest who earns his midlevel money there is someone like Luke Walton that does not. As far as Iverson’s marketing career, it should be noted that AI wanted to go with Nike but Falk signed him to a great deal with RBK. Later on his own, I believe AI signed a lifetime deal with RBK. That money from Reebok is likely a very important revenue source for him if rumors of money issues are actually true. Furthermore, I would say that AI would not be in the position he is in today had he stayed with David Falk and listened to his advice. My opinion. @enigmatic: They helped each other. Falk fully understands that MJ opened many doors for him. There is a book called “Swoosh: the unauthorized story of Nike and the men who played there” It was the first ever book written on Nike, penned by JB Strasser who was nike’s first advertising manager and the wife of Rob Strasser, one of Phil Knight’s closest confidants and a key person in Nike basketball’s growth in the 80s. In the book, Strasser explains that the entire concept of “Air Jordan” was created by Falk and Strasser. “Air Jordan” the marketing concept, was Falk’s creation. More on that tomorrow in Part II. @Myles: Thanks dude. Means a lot coming from you. And yes, I know. I’m likely the only person in the world who enjoyed The Decision and was happy to see LeBron do it.

  • namik

    Good work!!

  • http://slamonline.com Tzvi Twersky

    Knowledgeable interviewer and interviewee.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @ Nima – DAMN. OK, I’ll be on the lookout for that part II!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    What kind of a nickname is Worldwide Wes? Wow.

  • T-Money

    Sport agents in basketball is archaic. There’s a cap. Bron knows what he’s going to get so why does he need Leon Rose? It’s not like baseball where Boras can and does get you 10, 20 30 more millions than the next guy. Some guys like Ben Wallance are catching up and hire a lawyers and accoutants billed by the hour to negotiate their contract. It’s ridiculous to me to pay 4% of 100+ mil to an agent to get something you were going to get anyways.

  • coach g

    Dippy little chalk throw
    Walk the ball up slow
    Moan to refs on every play

    Pretty boring I would say!!!!

    Rigged team = boring team.

    Ignore the Bore.

  • hoodsnake

    Two very knowledgeable people having a meaningful conversation. Doesn’t happen a lot anymore. Can’t wait for part 2

  • deshawn33

    agree,great read.
    obviously falk is a smart man.
    pro-capitalistic,indeed..
    still disagree with his CBA argumentations concerning max/mid level money though.
    it may not be perfect as it is.
    some of the reasons allen gave i second-to cry cummunism when a guy is making 18mil a year is obviously very “USA”.
    i think its one of the great achievements of the union that it has actuallly managed to spread the wealth more evenly in a time when global finacial compensation in most markets goes the road of overcompensating a few and undercompensating the masses.
    consider two things:if youre a max player,making whatever the max may be at that time,chances are very high youre actually generating a lot of income from other sources-endorsements etc.we all know bron shaq et al dont have to make do with the measly 20mil they´re making a year.
    two:if your a GM and you´re willing to offer a guy like JJ 5-7 mil a year i´m not sure any CBA can help you..
    lowering mid level money cant substitute talent-evaluation.
    and obviously his argumentation is not without the slightest of self-interest-if you´re representing many of the max guys and you get 4% of their salary,it´s much nicer if that salary is 40mil than 20..
    so it may not be perfect the way it is,but i like the general ideas..

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    The lollygaggers need to take a pay cut.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Alan Paul

    Nima, great job. This is a slamming, thoroughly interesting interview. I completely agree with Falk’s views on max players and have been screaming for years about this. Teams kill themselves by overpaying guys who are completely replaceable. But that doesn’t mean max has to be higher… it means why in the F**K would a team give Jerome James or Darko or Jared Jeffries or many, many others multi-year guaranteed deals?

  • Fat Lever

    I love the fact he puts Jerome James on blast. Hahahaha, awesome.

  • underdog

    The best thing I’ve read on this site in the last several months. Can’t wait the second part.

  • PG

    SLAM has the best interviews. Period. This is publication worthy, but happy you guys shared it online for all to read and enjoy. Cheers.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nima Zarrabi

    Thank you all for taking the time to comment. Many good points here. @T-Money: I understand where you are coming from but a good agent does much more than negotiate contracts. @deshawn33: Very good points. There clearly is no substitute for talent evaluation. His point is more about the union fighting for better enhancements for lower tier players rather than the superstars. As far as self interest, that is a valid point but keep in mind that Falk has made his money. One more max contract is not going to make or break him. Alan, that makes a ton of sense and Falk agrees that owners and GMs made a bunch of dumb decisions this past off-season. Guaranteed contracts or at least the length of them, will be a key bargaining point during CBA talks.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Alan Paul

    His other point about someone like LBJ or Dwade being worth more than Bosh is also on point, but his solution is not.. just take off the max… what will happen is these knucklehead owners will just overpay other guys more.

  • http://big11mel@yahoo.com Big Mel

    It was funny how all the superstars are hungry,but all the role players stop working once they get their money,yes Kobe and Lebron have to sacrifice some money if they want to win a championship. David Faulk naming a bum like Jerome James isn’t a good example.

  • Jeff H

    Please talk to david falk as much as possible. What an insightful well spoken person. Great article.

  • http://www.lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Nima, I loved this interview, thank you for sharing this engaging dialogue. I can’t wait for part 2.

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  • JalepinoSausage

    Props for the Ar-TICAaaaL like Meth !!!

  • HZ

    Nima and Falk need to team up and write a book together. This interview has more knowledge than Confucious and karl Marx put together.

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