by Marcel Mutoni
Well, if the Commander in Chief says it, then it must be true!
Tags: Barack Obama, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James
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Obama should give a presidential pardon for the 2007 Finals
nice choice obama cant go wrong with either of them…NOW GET ME SOME MONEY!!!!
one on one LBJ would muscle Kobe 11-9 easy
I still think its Bron
Can’t argue with the prez. smart man.
In 5 words Jacob summed up why some people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. “Sure I’ll vote for Obama, he’s handing out checks!”
Somebody call Sarah Palin: Obama may have ties to a suspected sex offender!
And yes I feel bad about writing that.
How was this a Kobe/Lebron debate?
I agree with the Prez. Lebron is still on his way to the top. He still has room for improvement (like less crab dribbling). Kobe is at the top and has no where but down to go.
There can only be one best player in the world.
yeah jackie and his name is kwame brown hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I didn’t know Yellow Journalist Gary Miller was still around.
I am the one and only true Anton!
Cool Thats My video!
Finally agree with something he says. Now if he could get the market to preform like Kobe then we will be in good shape.
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will the real Anton please stand up
Don’t understand how that was really a debate. Sounded like he was just stating a fact.
Stop commenting. Gumdrop already won.
Kobe for MVP!!
Lebron poops on Kobe. Call me when Kobe averages 8 assists and sends peoples shots into the 400 section of the arena.
Until Lebron does two things (one on a consistent basis and the other at least 1 time) he can’t possibly be THE BEST: 1.) Shoot a long range jumpshot or 3 pointer…AND WIN FREAKIN GAMES…WHEN THEY COUNT THE MOST! and 2.) SCORE 80 somethin points in this day and age. Close the door shut. End of conversation. Exit stage left, or right.
…& then The Answer!!
OBAMA is just stating a fact….propably the only place on earth where this ain’t a fact is among the kids in this forum (dacre,NBK,Eboy, i don’t need to write down all the members of the “Lebron list”.you all know who you are….once more WAKE-GROW UP!!!) KOBE is better than LEBRON even if he is slightly past his prime…on the other hand i would take LBJ over KOBE for an NBA regular season in the same way that i would take CP over Deron for the same purpose….
go on ESPN.com and check LeBron’s shot chart from his five best shooting nights in January. Then come back and tell me how much the x’s out-number the o’s beyond 8ft from the basket, i’d love to have a good laugh today. How a man who can’t shoot (not dunks and layups) worth sh!t can be called the best in the league is beyond me. Is that what we’re teaching the kids who’re learning the game? “No son, F ya jumpshot, you need to hit the weight room so you can dunk like LeBron!”
Panagiotis makes me happy when he references me as a kid. I haven’t been a kid since Ronald Reagan was in office.
LEBRON can’t shoot.
@Eboy….:some age and others mature. The first ones can remain kids for a looooong time (sometimes even till the end… )
that’s what i’m teachin’ Kadavour…take it to the hole strong like The King!
Yeah…..that’s what I’m shooting for…..
KADAVOUR…Your post was so refreshing! 1st Lebron is in real time displaying the makings of a great career BUT (huge BUT) the kid ain’t better than Kobe. C’MON! Read my earlier post; the guy can’t win games ON A CON-SIS-TENT BASIS USING THE ART OF THE JUMPSHOT! I still see the hesitation in his motions when it comes to making a stern choice to shoot the ball in the closing seconds VERSES trying to boguard his way to the hole. If you younger guys admire his “flash” so much, then put Dwayne Wade-the real Flash-in this conversation. Greatest ever on the CAVS, yes, greatest in the NBA now, A BIG NO!
If your a 6-8 freight train that no one wants to get in front of, why settle for the shot..?
@jaymes….:ask KEMP and NIQUE…
The most deserving is Wade, the hardest working layer and most valuable to his team. Take him out of the lineup and the Heat will not even have a chance for the playoffs. And where are they now? Just a game behind the 4th spot in the east? Cmon its disturbin, team record is overrated its not Wades fault Kobe and LBJ have great role playes around them.
No dis to either of them P.V but LBJ is a better player than those guys..I don’t get your comeback?
when did Obama say this though?
btw, i love it when people chastise vince for settling for too many jumpshots, but then turn around and say Bron can’t shoot from outside because he’s taking advantage of his paint dominance. maybe the people who comment on this post are consistence and actually applaud vince for taking so many outside shots. if you are the latter, i got no beef with you.
indeed…(although KEMP is the best in-game dunker i ever saw)
PANGAIOTIS VASILOPULOS…TOUCHET! TOUCHET! The problem with the 6-8 El Train Lebron simply choosing to boguard his way to hole is 1.) There are other 6-8 guys that’s not going to have that all the time (like when Tyrus Thomas blocked his shot to help give the Bulls the win in their last meeting) 2.) It becomes to PREDICTABLE! The teams are going to anticipate his moves more effectively. Now Kobe, he has options, and not just speaking of role players, but he has an ARSENAL of skill at his disposal that can enable him to put his foot on your neck. Let’s see Lebron hit 10 fade-away jumpers from the far corners…IN GAME 6…of the NBA FINALS…
Yeah we talked bout that couple of weeks ago..Crams over Alton Lister and Gatling being the highlights..A mate and i talked about how LBJ doesn’t get too many in your face dunks compared to Vince, Kobe or Wade. Conclusion was, no one wants to get close to LBJ when he is about to launch…
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@lan..LBJ would never take 10 fadeaways in a row ’cause at 6-8,270 he can usually over power his man, he still shoots the j, and over the past few years that area of his game has developed..you act like LBJ is a one dimensional player with only a drive..He may use it more often but only ’cause it’s his strength..
unstoppable… unless it’s the playoffs and he’s facing the boston celtics
Kobe. Enough said.
“by Marcel Mutoni
Well, if the Commander in Chief says it, then it must be true!” He is not even your Commander in Chief. Anyway Obama didnt say Kobe Bryant he said ‘Mobey’s Client’
JAYMES…He has developed his game over the past few years BUT even at this stage in his career, he’s not better than Kobe was 8 years ago! Think about it: Kobe was BREAKING RECORDS and taking big game winning SHOTS, and just as electrifying dunks as Lebron, WHILE he had another superstar on the team. C’MON! PLUS, Kobe maintained his greatness in the face of the “Plight of the Superstar”; which is basically the point in time when a glorified athelete has to go through some life changing events that tests his heart (Michael went through it, Wilt went through it, Magic went through it). Lebron hasn’t even been through a huge test of his mind and heart yet. So how can an untested superstar lay claim to be the best?
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Here’s what I dont understand…isnt the point of offense to get the best shot possible? So if Lebron is shooting around 50%, then who cares how he does it? He averages more points…what difference does it make how he gets them?
@P.V.: i definitely can get behind that. unless by M.J you mean michael jackson.
obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing, this blind love affair most people have with obama is extremely dangerous and similar to paths taken by fascist governments in the past.
@lan..I’m not saying he’s better than Kobe, but he’s not as far behind as you claim, he’s a ridiculous athlete with huge upside. If you had 2 teams the same and either LBJ or kobe to win you a title this year, i take Kobe..But i take LBJ for the next 15 years. ..
OBAMA is the DURANT of american politics.
@Tarzan….:although basically you are right on your comment,i don’t think that such a think can happen in the states.
@Tarzan Cooper: We people need idols to cherish. And we Americans determine who’s fascist and who’s not.
Here’s a debate: who’s the best ‘peace warrior’ right now? Israel has some killing numbers in Gaza right now, but I’ll take Obama for the next 4 years
JRP…The problem with your proposed logic is that it’s under the assumption that the best possible shot is going to be readily available everytime he goes for the drive. WRONG. If he’s going to make it to where Kobe is, where Magic was, where Michael was, where Bird was, etc. then he’s going to have to instinctively be able to pull up for the game winning SHOT a heck of alot more than the game winning lay-up. Go back and watch the basketball history channel (they haven’t created it yet, but you know what I mean.)
I am so tired of Obama chiming in on sports. He needs to focus on building this economy, not telling us who the best team in the NFL is, or who the best player in the NBA is. I love him, but do what we elected you to do.
The Basketball History Channel = NBATV
Thank you Jackie. They should just syncronize it as NBATV on BHC
lan..Bron has dropped quite a few winning j’s,just recently he had a step back game winner from about 17-18 feet over the warriors (click my name and check the other ondes on the page too!!)..lay off lebron dude, your going a little over the top with criticism of him, he’s a lock for mvp this year and he’s only getting better..
*ones not ondes, my bad..
JAYMES…I did see that game winning shot verses the Warriors. Comment/Question: Michael Jordan, at this stage in Lebron’s career, was more of a scoring machine tham Lebron is. Even the Great One didn’t get an MVP at that time. Lebron will get one when he shows more poise under adversity; translation, make it to the Finals-and do VERY well. I’m not giving the kid a pass, especially if he’s begging for the World Ambassador title. Nope. He has to do more. And he will do more, but we can’t give him the cup until he reaches a certain measure within. And right now, he doesn’t have it.
Mike did get MVP, in 88 i think, thats 4 years into his career,that’s about where LBJ is now? And Mike was more than just a scoring machine (just like LBJ is not just a scorer), i think he was defensive p.o.y that year too..Don’t know that i’m feelin ya on this dude…
JAYMES…true, Mike retained both. I’m not even feelin myself on that one. But Lebron…I just don’t see the “MVP” stamp. I think if they crown him (as if the hoisting hasn’t begun), it’s going to turn out a downer, similar to Dirk.
Lebrons actually in his 6th year. You know the fact that Lebron is this damn good without being able to shoot is scary.
Resolve the Marbury situation next!
Marcel Mutoni again with the one liners!
Keep it up man!
@ mat smith: Why does a hypothetical 11-9, in a 1 on 1 between Kobe and LeBron matter at all?
They don’t even regularly guard each other when they play.
People are really dumb. Yeah, because Lebron doesn’t have an outside shot, he can’t be better than Kobe. Even though he’s an INSANELY better passer than Kobe, way better rebounder, and has been defending far better than Kobe has this year, shoots better than Kobe (strange, those “predictable” dunks and layups seem to go in a lot), and his team has a better RECORD than Kobe, he can’t be better than Kobe. Because, hey, let’s focus on his lack of outside shot.
Good job guys.
Yes, people are dumb. That is the valid part of what Jukai wrote. Also, the Lakers and Cleveland are both 36-9.
finally someone brings up the obvious. even if kobe is a slightly better outside shooter, and i do stress slightly, i see him miss more potential game winning jumpers than anyone else in the league by far, it has to be stated that lebron is a far far far better passer than kobe, i won’t even bring up his better rebounding and defense i’ll just focus on the kings far better court vision. he just has a natural court vision whereas kobe has to make a concentrated effort to be a good passer, lebron just does it naturally.
Until LeBron wins a game in the Finals, this debate is dead to me. And until he cracks 60, he shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath with Kobe as far as scoring ability goes.
@Jukai….:Don’t need to panic my little friend! The fact that i didn’t wrote your name on my Jan30 3:22pm comment doesn’t mean than you are not also a member of the kindergarden. You were,you are and (most propably-comment 3:54pm)you will always be!!
“I agree with the Prez. Lebron is still on his way to the top. He still has room for improvement (like less crab dribbling). Kobe is at the top and has no where but down to go. ”
I would just like for everyone to read the last sentence of that phrase from a straight up LeBron fan…Kobe is at the top…I think that’s nuff said
True dat Tony Knorr… Kobe *takes* a huge volume of late-game shots, so naturally… some of them go in.
As for the ridiculous debate, I’ll take Chris Paul over both of those fools.
Kobe *takes* a huge volume of late-game shots … so did Mike … too bad they don’t have the stats for that … instead, go watch game 6 of the Finals against Utah BEFORE Mike made the shot over Bryon Russell, and see just how many shots he chunked in the 4th Q before making that one …
Co-Sign Mike C.
LeBron is going to be HUGE in the future(2010). But as of now, Kobe is still the man.
i say kobe, but wade and lebron are right next to him
Why people still mad that Kobe is still considered #1? Never ceases to amaze me. Time and time again people have said “he’s fallen off” and “he’ll never win again” but he just keeps going…
agree with john blaze above me, wade is definitely in the mix this year, talk about a complete game, he’s just sick. if the heat get some help via a trade, i wouldn’t want to meet them in the playoffs.
also, marcel didn’t way there was a debate in the clip, he was referring to the debate in general, of which we all know exists.. and i agree with ‘bama.. if i was building a team for the future, sure, i take bron with my No.1 pick every day of the week, but if i was picking to win now, today? kobe 10/10..
also, in my opinion, anyone that thinks that lebron could take kobe 1:1 may have spent the best part of 2003 cruising around portland with zbo, mighty mouse and d-miles.. hope the effects wear off soon..
This argument is ridiculous, equally ridiculous as lebrons being given the nickname of King before he had achieved anything outside of high school. Kobe is a much better shooter, more creative, has more one on one moves, better handle, better footwork, better defender, more clutch, better with left hand, he actually has a post game unlike lebron and a far higher basketball iq. Kobe has mastered the game of basketball and has no skill weaknesses, he has performed well during the finals at least 3 times.
Lebrons got next but his time hasn’t come yet, not until he fixes all the glaring weaknesses in his game and proves he can perform at the highest level.
they are both milestones in the history of the game, without doubt. it took me awhile to come around with lbj, mainly because of the suffocating hype, but he’s damn good. Still, I’ve watched kobe since game 1 and the guy gets better every year. he is the most complete and polished offensive player in the history of the modern game. he has a drive that is unmatched (read phils books to see who wins the intensity battle between mj and kb.) LBJ is a better player from playing with bryant, not vice versa. also, see mamba (disambiguation).
This is still a basketball magazine website, isn’t it? “Obama parts the Red Sea!” “Obama mentions LeBron James!” BIG DEAL! SLAM, do you still love this game?
Brandon Roy is the best.
Eric Gordon will be of the future.
Kwame was a higher pick than Kobe out of High School therefore he is a better player.
isn’t the goal of basketball to put the ball through the hoop as easily as possible, so who cares how lebron gets his points, as long as he sufficiently gets them?
hursty, your logic is undeniable haha..
Fitzy – the goal of basketball is to put the ball through the hoop with the highest degree of difficulty more times than your opponent
for those of you saying its lebron, go back to lakers vs cavs. When Kobe shut lebron down with a dislocated finger. Lebron couldn’t “buy” a jumpshot. Take away lebrons athleticism and he has no game, no offense but James just hustles, thats his greatest asset. Kobe=best player in the world, to many different ways to score and Obama agrees!!
MANU !!!! (dunking on the Hornets…)
Matt: if that is the logic you base the comparison off of, than Kobe is a better player THIS year. Yet, Lebron was a better player last year and the year before and the year before. Because, you know, Lebron has historically slaughtered Kobe in head to heads. But yeah, instead of researching this and coming to a more valid conclusion, it was good to judge things off one game.
How is Kobe more creative than Lebron when scoring? Did anyone watch the Olympics? Kobe CAN’T score without the ball! Matter of factly, when Kobe doesn’t have the ball, he mostly just boxes his guy out somewhere pushed back away from the paint so his teammates can have an easy driving lane. The guy is easily the top three best dunker in the NBA yet he rarely alley-oops.. he rarely runs through picks without the ball (unless it’s the fourth and a play is drawn up for him) or darts toward the basket.
Lebron, on the other hand, can do ALL of that (except run through picks. Damn you Rick Barry!). So instead of focusing on Lebron’s lack of outside shooting, let’s focus on Kobe’s lack of scoring without the ball, shall we?
I mean, screw it, this is how we do it:
ppg: 27.8 > 26.2
rpg: 7.5 > 5.6
apg: 7.0 > 5.0
spg: 2.0 > 1.3
bpg: 1.3 > 0.4
shot per: .49 > .47
eff: 30.27 > 24.63
You guess which player is which.
“I mean, screw it, this is how we do it:
ppg: 27.8 > 26.2
rpg: 7.5 > 5.6
apg: 7.0 > 5.0
spg: 2.0 > 1.3
bpg: 1.3 > 0.4
shot per: .49 > .47
eff: 30.27 > 24.63
You guess which player is which.”
PPG: lebrons scores more because he has to, when kobe needed to score alot he averaged 35 ppg.
APG: Kobe plays in the triangle offense which is oriented towards passing and cutting, many times the player kobe passes to makes an extra pass and is sometimes followed by an extra pass after that, their apg are more a result of the offensive system they play in rather than passing ability.
RPG: Lebron is a small forward, who usually guards small forwards who play closer to the basket than shooting guards do, so naturally he will get more rebounds, kobe is second amongst shooting guards in rpg, lebron is first amongst small forwards, they are arguably equally as good in this area.
SPG: this doesn’t show lebron is a better defender, chris paul averages more steals than both, but is known as a defensive liability, when you gamble on defense by constantly attempting to intercept passes like lebron does, you risk leaving your man free.
BPG: Similar to the rpg argument, forwards are bound to obtain more blocks, since they play closer to the basket and are usually taller.
Shots per: Yes, Lebron has a higher field goal percentage, but he has a lower free throw and three point percentage.
Eff: Efficiency rating is biased towards forwards and centers, there are no statistical advantages to being a shooting guard.
“Kobe can’t score without the ball” sounds funny
^True that LOL. 100!
Obama, Im Ashamed!!! Lebron Awday
The only way I know to score without the ball is to be the nearest guy to the opponent when he accidentally scores the ball for your team. Maybe Lebron is really good at that …
@Jackie Moon…: perfect!!! (as usual)
listen up, as I will only say this once: In the not-so-distant-future this debate will be pointless. LBJ will be the greatest player to ever lace em up. Believe that. He is nadal, kobe’s federer.
@jay…:he is Ben Johnson. Kobe is Carl Lewis.
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Kobe is far the best, Lebroooom is nothing…
*smh* People refuse to give Kobe his do props. The man is playing with a busted shooting hand, bad knees and tendonitis, still up there in the top three at age 30. Come one now. And to the idiot talking about Kobe’s assists he had 45 throughout a 5 game stretch, so that hushes that end of his criticisim doesn’t it.
And don’t get mad at Obama because he knows what’s he’s talking about. Go ask MJ who he thinks is the best player in the NBA right now and he’ll tell you KOBE BEAN BRYANT. I like how people assumeKobe will descend as his career goes along. MJ didn’t desecnd until he quit at 34, and he still came out of retirement and put up 50. Rober Parish wa saksed what recent player he likes to watch he only mentioned Tim Duncan, and guess who KOBE BRYANT. Kobe has the top selling Jersey out there right now, so whether people like it or not he’s still shinning.
Kobe’s work ethic is so much more intense than everyone elses, hence he can play through a boat load of injuries. LeBron and others sit out with sprained ankles. And LeBron is a great player in the making no doubt, I won’t lie about that, but people are so infatuated with him it’s crazy. Pushing him ahead of his career too fast. When Kobe wa syoung and people were pushing him a hea dof his career people got upset and start bashing him, but LeBron can have a slew or cheerleaders egging it on when it comes to him.
Kobe just dropped 61 at MSG, and people are still throwing salt on his performance because they keep saying how the knicks are a bad team But they are far more improved as in to which LeBrob had 50 points agaist em last year. They were horrible last year. It irks people’s nerves to give the man his props, he was robbed of an MVP in 05 and in 01 because of personal hang-ups people have with him and his personal life. Sat that aside and recognize the guy for what he does on the court.
KOBE for 61 !!!!
Until Lebron scores 81 in a game…until Lebron scores 40+ in 5 consecutive games…until Lebron wins a championship…until Lebron wins a dunk contest..thats when we’ll give you LBJ freaks a chance to open your mouths…ya’ll forgot about that forth quarter at the olympics when the Spaniards were about to cause an upset…who restored order,Kobe or Lebron? please sign off your answer with one record that LBJ has broken/set in the NBA.
On an individual basis, Kobe’s better… LeBron a better teamplayer, though.
What about Wade his numbers are great too team is playing better
To KEV’S previous post on the 3rd…LeBron James is the youngest player in history to reach 12,000 points. Of course, I feel that Kobe would have did that if he was by himself on the Lakers the whole time. Also, KEVIN DURANT is going to smash that in another 3-4 years (assuming he doesn’t see extensive time off).
yea you tell em president obama! lol. yea lebron no championships no 60 point games no finals wins 1 trip to the finals to kobes 6. cant shoot the ball. travels. pretty much plays point guard constantly has the ball in his hands and thats why he has better stats and he really only has had this one good season when kobe pretty much has not had an offseason between 07 08 and 08 09. look for the lakers to repeat this year because the greatest player in the world is on their team
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