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Monday, June 8th, 2009 at 10:01 am  |  153 responses

Video: It Was Goaltending, But Who Cares?

by Ryne Nelson

When we think back on Game 2, we’re going to remember what happened at the end. Not what happened in the 47 minutes and 59 seconds before the final play of regulation. We’re going to remember the brilliant alley-oop designed for Courtney Lee with the game tied with 0.6 seconds to go.

And we’re going to remember how he missed.

A lot has been said about Lee’s botched bounce off the front of the iron (culminating in a coulda, woulda plea in the Orlando Sentinel). After all, if Lee put just a ‘lil less muscle on it, Orlando would be tied 1-1 with the Lakers. There still would be hope. There still would be a series.

L.A. Times beat writer Mark Heisler’s heart skipped some beats — along with the rest of the Staples crowd — when it appeared the Magic had the perfect play:

For a moment at the end of regulation, it looked as if it was about to be a 1-1 series, as Hedo Turkoglu’s inbounds lob sailed over Kobe Bryant to Courtney Lee, going in for the game-winning layup.

Fortunately for the Lakers, tragically for the Magic, Lee had to reach back, and adjust, and, as Chick Hearn used to say . . .

HEARTBR-R-R-R-REAK!

Yes, Pau Gasol grazed the rim in the final milliseconds of regulation. By the book, it’s goaltending and the Magic should have won the game. But with the circumstances (the kinetic energy, the noise, the excitement, the stakes) as well as the results (Lee clunked the lay pretty bad), is there any way the game should’ve ended by the books?

As far as I know, the officials barely reviewed the final play, if at all. And I’m happy about it. To me, an ending decided after four minutes of referee video scrutiny doesn’t seem right, especially in the NBA Finals.

Where’s the Amazing in that?

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  • jumpman3224

    During last night’s broadcast Mike Breen said that it is only goal tending if touching the rim makes the rim gyrate (sp?) in a way that affects the bounce of the ball. Lee’s lay-in was so far off that it had no affect. Also I hope that this non-call doesn’t take away from any amazingly hardfought game. Let us not forget that Howard blocked Pau earlier by putting his hand through the basket, which is also goaltending. In a close game like this there are missed calls and non-calls both ways.

  • http://sdklf.com Jukai

    So, they have to suspend Amare and Diaw because RULES AND RULES AND CAN’T BE BROKEN but uh, this isn’t called because it wouldn’t go in anyway?
    Haaaaaaaaaa my spirit is continually broken by the NBA.

  • http://Nicekicks.com MeloMan22

    sounds like this was written by a Laker fan

  • JOE_SIXPACK

    That wasn’t a goaltending ya’ll need to chill, it’s clear from the replay that he botched the layup the Magics have very little hope of pulling off a upset.

  • riggs

    BS there were so many no calls the last few minutes against the magic, that they SHOULD have called it goaltending. anyone see that crybaby of a laker named kobe crying to the refs because he wanted a foul? yet it showed that NO ONE touched him and that hedo had a great block on the replay? and yet some of yall defend this dude.

  • riggs

    offtopic but tiger woods is the effin man.

  • Ritchie

    Um, what about dwights block through the basket that was clearly a goaltend, hm?

  • Karl

    I know Gasol’s play didn’t effect the tragectory of the ball. But why was this article necessary? It’s just a viewpoint from a biased Laker fan writer.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I thought for a call to be a goaltend it has to have a chance to go in.

  • truthteller

    There was also a goaltending by Dwight Howard in the first quarter and the refs missed that one too. So I guess it evens out.

  • Khalid Salaam

    very close to being a goaltend. sorta bs that the ref’s didn’t even review it….also, that was not a easy shot by any means. they were talking about it on espn this morning and i just turned to msnbc. i had no choice, it was embarrassing. the thought that lee blew a lay-up is both misleading and ignorant as hell. not even a whole second, gasol flying by and maybe interfering, and momentum taking him towards the sideline. how is it easy? in a situation like that the main thing is just to get an attempt up. of course he rushed it a little but there was no time to gather. i don’t understand what people expect. this is not a playstation game. its real.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    I think it was goaltending being a Laker fan, the rim did shake, but Howard goaltend was not called. I feel that the Magic got benefit calls all game from Howard not making offensive moves, losing ball and throwing hands in the air. and Kobe did get a slip on bananna call, but to me the refs did a good job. Let them play and I am tired of seeing Hedo push off with his off arm to shoot and dribble up court with his arm extended in Trevor’s face. Hedo learn how to dribble. Lakers in 5.

  • http://Nicekicks.com MeloMan22

    double co sign with riggs

  • truthteller

    Jukai,
    ????????????????

  • http://slamonline.com/ Tzvi Twersky

    Nah, if they gonna review stuff Like Rashard’s 3 then they need to review this one as well. It’s clearly a rules violation.

  • Miguel García (Mexico)

    Funny stat, in the last ten minutes of play the lakers got 15 free throws while the Magic had only 3, coincidence? i dont think so.

    Does anybody remember the huge no call when courtney lee went to the rim, with 10 seconds in the fourth, and odom fouled him on the layup attempt?

    Thats the perfect example of the officiating last night.

  • emmmanuel gil

    diwght howard goaltended gasols lay in at the begining of the game his hand went throught the hoop

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    Last night my ex-girlfriend told me she didnt wanna talk to me again and she didnt wanna hear what i had to say. I love that girl…
    and now I cant even talk to her.

  • S. Trotter

    c. For goaltending to occur, the ball, in the judgment of the official, must have a chance to score.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Who cares? Well i havent watched the finals at all (just highlights) and i can honestly say i DO. When a team has the opportunity to be tied 1-1 in a series vs down 2-0, i believe it is a pretty big deal. And i think we have refs to ref the game, which means stuff SHOULD be called in all 48 minutes. Their is no 2 days in life where you can go out and break all the laws, the cops will arrest you for that. Same should apply to basketball, their should be no 2 minute stretch where no rules apply and it is a free-for-all-battle-royale.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    WHAT, TRUTHTELLER? WHAT WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    And even though I wanted to the Magic to win I dont care about the goaltending.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    more fun from the league, a goaltend is a goaltend if contact is made with the ball or rim as the ball is above the cylinder or off the glass, except if it costs the lakers a game, of course. how does kobe not lose all credibility when hedo made that great block and mr bean cries for a foul. hes just used to getting all those phantom calls. but on that play, even the refs couldnt save him

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Goaltend doesn’t matter, Kobe limited the Magic’s shooting guards – Courtney Lee and Mickael Pietrus – to a combined four points. Defense wins rings.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Dwight has the worst goaltend I have ever seen not been called lol. His elbow was in the rim… and Kobe was mad because he got hit on the left arm slightly by Rashard on the last play… but it definitely wasn’t anything special. Great block by Hedo. Lakers Haters …hate : D. 2-0. I guess the people saying Orlando in 5 are wrong no too… I guess Orlando in 6?

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Tarzan, I feel your pain of watching Kobe get his 4th ring. I know it hurts!! But just smile and accept it brother!!

  • http://Www.Slamonline.com Melvin ely

    Karl made the most relevant comment here, the end

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    james, im not concerned with that. i just like to see fair play. but with the lakers in the playoffs, that never happens. fisher got a couple bs calls just for faking contact and flopping and flailing. kobe got many phantom calls. lee was fouled on i think second to last shot in 4th. when the lakers win fair and square thats fine, but i dont like it when any team wins with so much help from zebras like they do.

  • http://Www.Slamonline.com Melvin ely

    @the seed uh yeah props to the dobberman for locking down orlando’s two most dangerous scorers. Laker fans, gawd

  • ABIMATOR

    I’m sorry 4 the poor Courtney Lee et la suite de sa carrière, now he’s the new Nick (The Brick) Anderson, any1 has any proposition 4 what his nickna

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    and how do we know gasol hitting the rim didnt effect the ball? the rim surely vibrated when it shouldnt have. maybe lee’s shot would have gotten a kind bounce

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    And you should blame the coahcing of letting Lee take the last shots!!

  • ABIMATOR

    I’m sorry 4 the poor Courtney Lee et la suite de sa carrière, now he’s the new Nick (The Brick) Anderson, any1 has any proposition 4 what his nickname will be?
    4 me il n’y avait pas violation, plus Dwight did a worse violation in the 1st 1/4 that was not called, donc ça se compense…
    I’m 1 of those who said Magic in 5, now ça se compliq but it’s not over yet, but it looks like KB is ready 2 kill 4 that championship, man I’m 1 of the KB haters but u gotta admire that intensity, the focus, the guy spent the whole game barking at his teamates and still Gasol and Odom was able 2 deliver…
    jusqu’ici chapeau les Lakers, but it’s not over till it’s over…
    Enfin, I thaught Diddy was a Knicks fan? La Tarlouze!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Why are my comments barely showing. SLAM has been messed up lately.

  • http://lpool77@yahoo.com Danny

    NBA supervisor of officials Bernie Fryer told ESPN.com that if Gasol’s hand had shaken the basket, caused the stanchion to move or touched the rim while the ball was on the rim, the correct call would have been goaltending.

    But since none of those things happened, according to Fryer, “It was a cut-and-dried no-call.”

    And people complaining about the refereeing are mad. In no way did the referees favor the Lakers and if anything they gave Orlando some very soft fouls in the 4th.

    Btw this is coming from a Bulls fan that would rather see Orlando win instead of the Lakers.

    If I was a Orlando fan I would rather put the blame on SVG for his weird line-up down the stretch and the players for their 20-something turnovers.

  • truthteller

    JUKAI, I WANT YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HELL THAT MEANS!!!!

  • truthteller

    Tarzan,
    Are you aware that Dwight Howard’s hand went through the rim and blocked Pau’s shot and should have been called a goaltend in the first quarter?

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Tarzan is just sour … I wish my other comments would just come through.

  • Ramon

    I think that the couches should get 2 red flags like they do in the NFL so that they can challenge a play.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    Truthteller:
    Should this shot have been called a goal tend?
    No.
    By the rules, is it a goal tend?
    Yes.
    I’m still sour Amare and Diaw were suspended for game 5, alright?

  • Stan

    I think it was a great play, but Lang did brought up a good point on his column, why did van jeremy draw that play for Lee, who has made 2 shots all night. That play would have been perfect for Lewis.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    Yeah, something’s wrong with the filter, some of mah posts aren’t showing up, and they’re pretty PG

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Freedom Fries

    It’s the divine law of averages – everything evens out. Dhow’s goal tend was REAL and blatant. If you wanna call Pau’s a Gtend, fine, then the 2 cancel eachother out. And the Magic still choked in OT.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Jukai, suns weren’t going to do anything that year, they don’t play D. Nash most overrated, point guard in the history of the NBA, Two MVP’s fake, especaially with Shaq and Kobe and KG and AI with one. Funny, also blame the Suns failure on coaching, they could barely beat the Kobe lakers with Smush, Walton, Brown and Mihm, get over the overrated Suns. Lakers where amazing happens?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Freedom Fries

    Jukai is a notorious crack smoker – bring your pipe and you too can join in on the fun.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Freedom Fries

    PS. Jukai is a notorious crack smoker – bring your pipe and you too can join in on the fun.

  • http://slamonline.com ADAM

    Watch the replay. The clock didn’t even start on time. If they would have started it when lee touched the ball he wouldn’t of even go the shot off. Think about it….

  • http://slamonline.com B. Long

    If they’ll go back and give Pau his two points for Dwight’s goaltend then I’m all for them giving Courtney these two.

  • http://slamonline.com ADAM

    THE NBA really needs to adopt a mechanism that instantaneously starts the clock when the ball is touched. This is getting ridiculous.

  • http://slamonline.com B. Long

    This is possibly the most ridiculous thread I’ve ever read in slamonline comment history. Really people…really?

  • niQ

    i’m not gona lie, the refs are wack this series.

  • http://slamonline.com ADAM

    From a legal standpoint the fact that Pau Gasol goaltended is moot because the goaltend would have never occurred if the clock was started on time because time would have expired before andy goaltend took place. Thats all I’m saying…

  • http://slamonline.com ADAM

    Gasol’s goaltended is moot because the goaltend would have never occurred if time expired like it would have if the clock was started on time.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    The Seed: what you said is technically right, but if they had beaten the Spurs that year (they had a chance, Amare and Nash were obliteratign the Spurs, they had no answer, and Duncan was in a slump the entire series) who would they play… a sucky Jazz team that only advanced to the conference finals because they played the WARRIORS, and then an even worse Cavaliers team. That’s trophy-time baby.
    But back then, the excuse was that the nba COULDN’T BREAK THE RULES, no MATTER WHAT!
    So why now is the NBA bending them like they were silly putty?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    My ex girlfriend left me… So i dont care.

  • Bruno, RJ

    goaltending?!?!
    you guys are crazy! he went up for the block and just scratched the rim… nothing to call… rim didn’t even moved a bit.
    ppl saying about Lee, but Turko’s passa wasn’t that great… the kid grabbed it already under the board and had to adjust himself to it.
    he could have done it… missed it… ok.
    funny to say that this should be a goaltending in the same match as one of the WORST call ever!
    if somebody does what dwight did, blocking a shot from INSIDE the rim on my pickup games… we would throw him out cause he would be disturbing the game…
    in the nba, 3 referees, and nobody saw it.
    great fu(k up.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mcnarrative Kieran

    The Seed is one biased man, the Magic got most of the calls last night??? Really??

  • Jolst

    This wasn’t even a goaltending. Just read the damn rules, they’re on the internet.

  • http://Nicekicks.com MeloMan22

    Yes Dwight goaltended a shot, IN THE FIRST QUARTER. the refs sure can’t review every call. But this was the last .6 seconds in the game. thers a big difference and the refs shuda atleast reviewed it

  • vtrobot

    i’m getting so sick of this sh*t. kobe honestly feels that if he drives the lane and doesn’t score, he should ALWAYS be going to the line. if the ref doesn’t blow the whistle, whether there was a foul or not, you can guarantee that 24 is gonna act like an arm-flapping, whiny b*tch. has anyone ever in the NBA had this much talent and acted like so much of a spoiled prince? two of the “fouls” called on pietrus and then turkoglu in the last five minutes were HORRIBLE. F Kobe. F the Lakers.

  • http://Nicekicks.com MeloMan22

    so Charles Barkley and John Stockton dont have rings, but Vujacic is about to get one? life sucks

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Sorry I’m late today, but it needs to be said that if this situation is reversed and it was a Lakers players’ shot that was in question, two things would have happened 1) the internets would have ended about 4 seconds after the play happened from the tears of rage that would have come through in the terse words typed out and 2) SLAM would have ceased to exist in it’s current form as the epicenter of jackass basketball fans worldwide. Only one of those would have been bad.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    O crap! Let me get in the argument.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mcnarrative Kieran

    ha meloman i was thinking exactly the same thing last night.

  • GC

    goaltend or not.
    even if Lee made it in, he wouldn’t have gotten the shot off on time..he had the ball for at least a second until he shot it. Lakers 09!

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    Two wrongs dont make a right. But honestly I dont think the officials saw the goaltending either times.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    ahahah Meloman!

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    To me the refs arent bein biased. It looks as if theyre makin the right calls to me.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Kieran, read my post again, Magic-Howard did get a lot of calls, so then Kobe, I said that he sliped on the bannana peel and fail, but to me all these calls canceled out. The refs did good to me, and just didn’t like Hedo pushing off and dribbling with his arm extended in Trevors face. I am a Lakers fan, but Kobe has earned calls, Howard doesn’t even make moves for calls, except wave his hands in the air after he brings the ball to low to get the ball knoced out of his hands. Howard needs another teacher, Ewing is a choker, Howard needs Hakeem, bad make it happen Stan.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    The only solace I have from a Lakers championship is that Eboy may kill himself, and Slam will be a more intelligent place.

  • doyouwantmore

    I hate the Lakers deeply and profoundly. A few of my favorite players are on that team now and so I hate them, too. But the Magic lost that game fair and square. Only way I’ll watch now is if it’s a game seven.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    cosign Jukai

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    @ doyouwantmore: HAHA! Me too.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Nah, Jukai, your team commited basketball suicide the day they signed Steve Nash, so I can always take solace in the fact you’ve rooted for a true basketball pu*sy for the last 5 years or so.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And once Seed learns how to type in English, then I might actually read his comments instead of just scrolling right by them and shaking my head at his continued ignorance.

  • Sparker

    maybe when the hysteria dies down, we might realize that some interesting things happened last night. for eg.: 1) lewis’ hot hand forced the lakers to change their defensive strategy, which opened up turkoglu, which got the magic on track again offensively )and 2) the magic have slowed kobe down, at least temporarily. all this goes to say… i wouldn’t write the magic off until they actually lose a game at home

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Good point Eboy, I will stop tying 80 words a minute and take my time to eloquently distinguish my words so even simplistic people like yourself to understand my view points, without having to read grammatically incorrect statements and misspelled words.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    See, like right there, I don’t know why it took you 10 minutes to type that response.

  • mj23

    Bottom line is that Lee blew the layup. I don’t think Gasol had anything to do with him missing. The lob was perfect, but his jump wasn’t time correctly, and he took the shot at a bad angle. If that pass was for Dwight, it would’ve been a dunk.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    My only question is should players be able to just throw the ball off the backboard and then if there is incidental contact with the rim or the backboard get two points for it?

  • http://slamonline,com fonz

    i dont know why magic fans are crying for the call when howard pulled the same play on gasol with a minute into the game. In fact his hand went through the hoop grabbing net and swatted the ball as it was going down.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    A follow up question, if dwight howard was quicker to the rim on that play and his hand grazed the rim does he get called for offensive basket interference? I think the answer is no , reason being the ball was a mile off the rim and therefore pau hitting his pinky on the rim in no way affected the trajectory of the ball. No goal tend.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Shia, are you saying that in general or regarding Lee’s shot?

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Goaltend did not decide the game, Defensive adjustments by the Lakers ablity to slow down Howard changed the game. Howard really has no offesnive moves, great teaching pat.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Also to me anytime a player hand touches the rim, even if the ball is in the air should be a goaltend and I am a Lakers fan. Players should not be able to touch rim with ball coming to the hoop or if ball is on rim. Goaltend Period, Lakers survive, lets see what happens in Game 3.

  • Statik

    if the shoe was on the other foot, all Laker fans in the world would have simultaneous heart attacks while copying Kobe’s “i”m so pissed I’m gonna smack a chair at the end of regulation” routine…but since the knife missed the jugular, now nobody should give a fcuk, right?

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    In general mostly e. I know lee was trying to actually make the shot but the truth is he was so far off gasol could have punched a hole in the glass and it wouldn’t have changed anything.

  • Khalid Salaam

    lee didnt blow that shot. that was just a hard shot. don’t be an idiot….

  • breeze

    point blank it wasnt a goaltend..he blew the layup orlando back to the drawing board.

  • Be A Real Fan

    Sure Lee missed the alley oop with .6 of a second remaining,but the Magic lost in OT. The better team won. At least ORL made it interesting. LA in 4.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I agree with Khalid. That was a hard shot to finish, let alone the circumstances that surrounded the shot, you know, being a rookie, trying to give your team a huge emotional boost in the most critical moment of your very young career, on a play that you might only rememeber a tiny handful ever being completed in that fashion if you’ve watched this game for any length of time.

  • BostonBaller

    #1 How is this format of 20303 homecourt for the Lakers? #2 I’m watiching these Finals as strictly a fan of the game w/ no preference of a winner. #3 You can not equate a non call in the 1st qtr with a non call with .06 left in the 4th qtr. #4 Every player cries about a call even when they know they weren’t hit inorder to get a call later. #5 You can’t compare the number of calls the teams get overall you have to break it down by qtr and who was aggressive. #6 Great play call at the end, it wasn’t on the coach.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Eboy and meloman are awsome together lol :(

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I hope no one thinks I’m knocking lee or saying it wasn’t a tough shot cause I don’t mean to come off like that in the least. I’m just saying when pau grazed the rim the shot was already decidely not going in.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Eboy and meloman are awsome together!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Magic in 5.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Actually Pau didn’t just grab the rim, he hung on it with two hands, did a chin up, slapped the ball into the air and then dropped kicked it into the crowd. What a d1ck.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I think EVERYONE is grossly understating the 3 games in Orlando. The Magic are going to pretty solid and it’s quite possible by the end of the week all this hysteria will have died down tremendously. If this was a 2-2-1-1-1 series, I’d say the Lakers would close it in 6, but with this format? The Lakers held serve. That’s all they did.

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  • Mooch

    bad call, what else is new. you dont make a new rule book for the last .6 secs. terrible article. because there was a good crowd, we should throw out rules and just give LA a win. Ryne, you’re an idiot for writing this piece.

  • http://lamarcusaldridge.com Dean[The Best]

    I don’t think that it was goaltending. and i’m rooting for the Magic to win.

  • http:///www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Witness, what happened with the girl? It’s probably more interesting than the Finals anyway.

  • KJ

    Perhaps you should consult your rule book since it doesn’t support your conclusion that it was goaltending. His touching of the rim did not result in a vibration that caused an unnatural bounce of the ball. So the right call was made.

  • Cristobal

    http://i41.tinypic.com/34io9ph.jpg

    Howard goaltended a sure dunk by Gasol in the first half. This one is undisputable, but the refs missed it. Why isn’t this one getting more play? Either way, the two calls even each other out (assuming the Lee play was actually a goal-tending)

  • J-Bird

    Looks like pau and Kob’s are gonna get their first ring, bummer.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Hahha, most of these comments are pretty ridiculous actually. Yeh, Pau touched the ring, but if you think that slight amount of contact would alter Lee’s shot enough so that it would go in… urgh.
    Lee was off-balance and he doesn’t exactly get an opportunity to re-arrange the ball in his hands going up because of time constraints.
    ps- im cheering for the Magic in this series.

  • Eric

    The referees are so biased for the Lakers that they called an out of bounds off Kobe’s leg that didn’t touch Kobe’s leg!!!

    Wait a minute…

  • Mike

    Hate, hate, hate, hate. If any of the haterz actually watched the game and you say that Orlando got robbed or the conspricy BS, please leave the meth alone. PLEASE!!! It messes up your brain and tipically stupid $hit comes out that thing you call a mouth.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Lotta people in here hating on the inevitable…. that’s just swell. Two more W’s. Dos mas por favor….

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    And if Lee makes that crazy shot, the Magic earned the win. He didn’t. Life goes on. Kobe and co will win 1 in Orlando, come back and close this out in the west. Please believe Figueroa will be poppin.

  • riggs

    @mike: you LA fans know alot about meth.

  • Mike

    I’m not talking about his dumb, stupid fouls but the calls they call on Bynum defending Howard are crazy. His big friendly a$$ swings bows every time he touches the ball, how can you play that. Javie called a garbage 3 seconds even though L.O clearly reset but Javie didn’t see it. So to all the new magic fans it goes both ways if you choose to look at both sides instead of always saying people got robbed all the time.

  • Mike

    I’m not talking about his dumb, stupid fouls but the calls they call on Bynum defending Howard are crazy. His big friendly a$$ swings bows every time he touches the ball, how can you play that. Javie called a garbage 3 seconds even though L.O clearly reset but Javie didn’t see it. So to all the new magic fans it goes both ways if you choose to look at both sides instead of always saying people got robbed all the time.

  • Mike

    Hey riggs I’m black I really don’t know $hit about it. I know guys like you damn near kill yourselves trying to cook it. Bottom line keep off of this site, this isn’t a lebron site!! Go Lakers. Usually we Baltimoreans deal with H, I’ll sell you some. LOL

  • Fernando Sanchez

    Oh we watched it and its not meth bro…

  • Mike

    Well it’s a new designer drug because you guys are crazy!

  • Diogo

    Well, if we’re going to count all the “by the books” situations the refs screwed up on, we’re lost. If that was goaltending, then Dwight’s goaltending block on Pau’s dunk should’ve been called too. And still, the Lakers would win. Orlando lost the game because of other things, not one missed call.

  • Mike

    We got a guy who can’t stay on the court for 3 minutes at a time, lee and pietrus just can’t guard Jack Bauer but Bynum can physically match up to Howard if the refs let em play.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign BETCATS 11:10 am.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    CO-SIGN KHALID. THAT WAS NOT AN EASY SHOT. But, there was definitely a chance he could have made it.

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    I saw Pau graze the rim live, but Pau’s little string bean arm wasn’t strong enough to rattle the rim, and by the time the shot neared the hoop his hand was gone,and the iron was still. As much as I wanted it to be, it was NOT goaltending.

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    And people who are calling out Lee for blowing the layup are ridiculous. It was a tough catch and he had to lean way back to stay out from under the rim to give himself a chnace to make it. He actually made the catch and finish look a lot easier than it really was, but he just rushed the release (probably because he was sweating the .6 seconds left on the clock) and banged it too hard off the glass. The execution was great and Lee deserves credit, not blame, for nearly making an astounding play.

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    oh sure if you guys want the game called the same throughout, then how come no one is crying about Dwight blocking Pau’s shot with his hand inside the basket. that was way worse than this.
    some of you are ridiculous

  • vmcb

    I really hate these finals.

  • FlightClub

    someone needs to get that clip of howard’s goldtending on pau….

  • LakersShowtime

    For Orlando fans i have some questions.

    How well was Rafer Alston playing thru out the playoffs before the finals?

    Did it mess with Rafers mind when Jameer Nelson said he wanted to comeback for the finals?

    Was it selfish for Jameer to come back on his own knowing it could jack up the chemistry of the team?

  • fuddie

    Thats messed that courtney lee missed but its hard to tell if its goaltending or not. I mean the rule says it has to shake the rim for the rule to be in effect

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    here’s a picture of the Dwight goal tend on Pau which doesnt matter as much as Pau and Lee for some reason.
    http://estaticos03.marca.com/albumes/2009/06/08/gasol_howard_2/1244438352_extras_albumes_0.jpg

  • Eric

    You can’t complain about Pau’s “goaltend” — which didn’t affect the ball and didn’t shake the rim — and ignore that IN YOUR FACE SUPER GOALTEND.

  • Josh

    The ball never had a chance of going in, Pau could have swung on the rim and the ball wouldn’t have changed its trajectory enough to drop. The entire hoop would need to be moved a foot to the right, it had no chance. And for Kobe’s complaining, yeah its not great to watch, as a Lakers fan myself, but everyone gets unrational in pressure situations. Rashard did brush his shooting arm initially, but it wasn’t a foul, good play by Hedo, Dwight probably would have blocked it anyway too. I love how as soon as a close game is won by the Lakers the referees conspiracies start up again, its hilarious, but also hugely predictable… Get off it already!

  • http://www.myspace.com/weezyleezy337 Weezy F. Leezy

    dwight howard reminds me of alonzo mourning minus the jumpshot and the grit… i think shawn kemp was nicer too by the way. all D-12 do is the same lil dropstep and throws up a weak lay-up thing

  • CLydeSays

    Don’t think that call was even close. And the Refs are rarely ballsy enough to make a call that will change the outcome of a game in the final seconds.

    But the Lake Show DO seem to be getting the benefit of calls. Call it gamesmanship, constant complaining, whatever…

    Incidently, even Laker fans must be sick of Gasol’s whining. He’s outdone even Kobe with the hurt/angry/confused face after EVERY foul. Guy needs to relax and find a barber.

  • Eric

    Pau quietly talks to a referee after a foul to get an explanation. What’s the big deal? I see almost every player on the court making a face, a sarcastic smile or angrily arguing a call.

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    WOW! I never saw that pic of dwight goaltending Pau. That one is blatant.

  • riggs

    @mike: im black too so…..wtf are you talking about?

  • http://www.jameyburke.blogspot.com KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    From NBA rulebook:

    Section I-A Player Shall Not:
    a. Touch the ball or the basket ring when the ball is using the basket ring as its lower base.

    i. Vibrate the rim or backboard so as to cause the ball to make an unnatural bounce.

    It wasn’t tending. And this comes from a Celtics fan. Do your homework Slam.

  • http://slamonline.com Justin Blackman

    courtney should have made that lay up in the first place still he goin to be all right GO LAKERS

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    CLyde: NOBODY can outdo Mambiatch in the lamenting/crying for calls department. Not even whiny-pau. The overreaction immediately after Hedo’s clutch block on him was priceless, what a tool! (hmm, well maybe 1 player comes close… The one Sportsguy now calls “Gummy Bear”, due to his lame much reported candy obsession?)

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ ciolkstar: Obviously it didn’t make Lee miss, but the thing is, its a rule violation. This only reinforces the idea that the NBA refs will bend rules to make the action “more exciting”. Again, the Magic are now down 2-0 when they should be tied 1-1. This is a HUGE difference.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Wait, did Pau touch the rim or just the net? Let me see.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    He touched the rim and kind of wrapped his fingers around it.

  • ericb

    I’m a Lakers fan, but Lee was behind the damn basket when he let it go. That’s a hard shot to make anyway, without Gasol closing in. Give Lee a break!!! (But Lakers in 5)

  • Eric

    I think some media sources have been playing up the controversy of the goaltending in game 2. This is a fair look at the Pau Gasol v. Dwight Howard goaltending.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-orlando-magic9-2009jun09,3,668103.story

    I notice some apparent Orlando fans completely ignoring the blatant goaltend (there’s no question) made by Dwight Howard. 1-1 my butt.

  • Mike

    Riggs, I don’t care what color you are. All I know is in a couple hours we going for 3-0, so just forget it and get ready for the game!

  • Mike

    So are any of you going to talk about Howard’s goaltend or should we act like it didn’t happen? Please tell me.

  • Mike

    I know, it happened in the first quarter so no way it impacted the game right. WOW!!

  • Eric

    I doubt they will. The temptation is to say that the competing goaltends (even though I don’t think Pau’s was a goaltend and neither do several experts) and say it’s a wash. Series remains 2-0. If you want to be honest then you say that Dwight’s goaltend, had it not occurred, would have changed the energy and flow of the game. Who knows what happens then? On the face you think a Gasol dunk over Howard gives momentum to the Lakers. It’s much easier for the media, including this writer, to hype up the controversy of Lee’s missed layup.

  • Mike

    I have to address this: everybody cries, Kobe, D12, Sheed, Lebrick, D Wade all of our favorite players whine and moan if breath on em wrong. So to pick cats for whining is crazy, just pick the whole league for that matter. Go lakers!!

  • ariel

    coulda woulda shouda

  • futurematic

    The scariest thing is that Adam Morrison is getting a ring, forget Vujacic.

  • JMG

    BOTH GOALTENDING CALLS (ON HOWARD AND GASOL) NEEDED TO BE CALLED

  • http://www.jameyburke.blogspot.com KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    Nobody’s getting anything yet…

  • otv78

    Knicks will be in the finals in 2011!

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