Monday, June 8th, 2009 at 10:01 am  |  153 responses

Video: It Was Goaltending, But Who Cares?

by Ryne Nelson

When we think back on Game 2, we’re going to remember what happened at the end. Not what happened in the 47 minutes and 59 seconds before the final play of regulation. We’re going to remember the brilliant alley-oop designed for Courtney Lee with the game tied with 0.6 seconds to go.

And we’re going to remember how he missed.

A lot has been said about Lee’s botched bounce off the front of the iron (culminating in a coulda, woulda plea in the Orlando Sentinel). After all, if Lee put just a ‘lil less muscle on it, Orlando would be tied 1-1 with the Lakers. There still would be hope. There still would be a series.

L.A. Times beat writer Mark Heisler’s heart skipped some beats — along with the rest of the Staples crowd — when it appeared the Magic had the perfect play:

For a moment at the end of regulation, it looked as if it was about to be a 1-1 series, as Hedo Turkoglu’s inbounds lob sailed over Kobe Bryant to Courtney Lee, going in for the game-winning layup.

Fortunately for the Lakers, tragically for the Magic, Lee had to reach back, and adjust, and, as Chick Hearn used to say . . .

HEARTBR-R-R-R-REAK!

Yes, Pau Gasol grazed the rim in the final milliseconds of regulation. By the book, it’s goaltending and the Magic should have won the game. But with the circumstances (the kinetic energy, the noise, the excitement, the stakes) as well as the results (Lee clunked the lay pretty bad), is there any way the game should’ve ended by the books?

As far as I know, the officials barely reviewed the final play, if at all. And I’m happy about it. To me, an ending decided after four minutes of referee video scrutiny doesn’t seem right, especially in the NBA Finals.

Where’s the Amazing in that?

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  • niQ

    i’m not gona lie, the refs are wack this series.

  • http://slamonline.com ADAM

    From a legal standpoint the fact that Pau Gasol goaltended is moot because the goaltend would have never occurred if the clock was started on time because time would have expired before andy goaltend took place. Thats all I’m saying…

  • http://slamonline.com ADAM

    Gasol’s goaltended is moot because the goaltend would have never occurred if time expired like it would have if the clock was started on time.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    The Seed: what you said is technically right, but if they had beaten the Spurs that year (they had a chance, Amare and Nash were obliteratign the Spurs, they had no answer, and Duncan was in a slump the entire series) who would they play… a sucky Jazz team that only advanced to the conference finals because they played the WARRIORS, and then an even worse Cavaliers team. That’s trophy-time baby.
    But back then, the excuse was that the nba COULDN’T BREAK THE RULES, no MATTER WHAT!
    So why now is the NBA bending them like they were silly putty?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    My ex girlfriend left me… So i dont care.

  • Bruno, RJ

    goaltending?!?!
    you guys are crazy! he went up for the block and just scratched the rim… nothing to call… rim didn’t even moved a bit.
    ppl saying about Lee, but Turko’s passa wasn’t that great… the kid grabbed it already under the board and had to adjust himself to it.
    he could have done it… missed it… ok.
    funny to say that this should be a goaltending in the same match as one of the WORST call ever!
    if somebody does what dwight did, blocking a shot from INSIDE the rim on my pickup games… we would throw him out cause he would be disturbing the game…
    in the nba, 3 referees, and nobody saw it.
    great fu(k up.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mcnarrative Kieran

    The Seed is one biased man, the Magic got most of the calls last night??? Really??

  • Jolst

    This wasn’t even a goaltending. Just read the damn rules, they’re on the internet.

  • http://Nicekicks.com MeloMan22

    Yes Dwight goaltended a shot, IN THE FIRST QUARTER. the refs sure can’t review every call. But this was the last .6 seconds in the game. thers a big difference and the refs shuda atleast reviewed it

  • vtrobot

    i’m getting so sick of this sh*t. kobe honestly feels that if he drives the lane and doesn’t score, he should ALWAYS be going to the line. if the ref doesn’t blow the whistle, whether there was a foul or not, you can guarantee that 24 is gonna act like an arm-flapping, whiny b*tch. has anyone ever in the NBA had this much talent and acted like so much of a spoiled prince? two of the “fouls” called on pietrus and then turkoglu in the last five minutes were HORRIBLE. F Kobe. F the Lakers.

  • http://Nicekicks.com MeloMan22

    so Charles Barkley and John Stockton dont have rings, but Vujacic is about to get one? life sucks

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Sorry I’m late today, but it needs to be said that if this situation is reversed and it was a Lakers players’ shot that was in question, two things would have happened 1) the internets would have ended about 4 seconds after the play happened from the tears of rage that would have come through in the terse words typed out and 2) SLAM would have ceased to exist in it’s current form as the epicenter of jackass basketball fans worldwide. Only one of those would have been bad.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    O crap! Let me get in the argument.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mcnarrative Kieran

    ha meloman i was thinking exactly the same thing last night.

  • GC

    goaltend or not.
    even if Lee made it in, he wouldn’t have gotten the shot off on time..he had the ball for at least a second until he shot it. Lakers 09!

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    Two wrongs dont make a right. But honestly I dont think the officials saw the goaltending either times.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    ahahah Meloman!

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    To me the refs arent bein biased. It looks as if theyre makin the right calls to me.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Kieran, read my post again, Magic-Howard did get a lot of calls, so then Kobe, I said that he sliped on the bannana peel and fail, but to me all these calls canceled out. The refs did good to me, and just didn’t like Hedo pushing off and dribbling with his arm extended in Trevors face. I am a Lakers fan, but Kobe has earned calls, Howard doesn’t even make moves for calls, except wave his hands in the air after he brings the ball to low to get the ball knoced out of his hands. Howard needs another teacher, Ewing is a choker, Howard needs Hakeem, bad make it happen Stan.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    The only solace I have from a Lakers championship is that Eboy may kill himself, and Slam will be a more intelligent place.

  • doyouwantmore

    I hate the Lakers deeply and profoundly. A few of my favorite players are on that team now and so I hate them, too. But the Magic lost that game fair and square. Only way I’ll watch now is if it’s a game seven.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    cosign Jukai

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    @ doyouwantmore: HAHA! Me too.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Nah, Jukai, your team commited basketball suicide the day they signed Steve Nash, so I can always take solace in the fact you’ve rooted for a true basketball pu*sy for the last 5 years or so.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And once Seed learns how to type in English, then I might actually read his comments instead of just scrolling right by them and shaking my head at his continued ignorance.

  • Sparker

    maybe when the hysteria dies down, we might realize that some interesting things happened last night. for eg.: 1) lewis’ hot hand forced the lakers to change their defensive strategy, which opened up turkoglu, which got the magic on track again offensively )and 2) the magic have slowed kobe down, at least temporarily. all this goes to say… i wouldn’t write the magic off until they actually lose a game at home

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Good point Eboy, I will stop tying 80 words a minute and take my time to eloquently distinguish my words so even simplistic people like yourself to understand my view points, without having to read grammatically incorrect statements and misspelled words.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    See, like right there, I don’t know why it took you 10 minutes to type that response.

  • mj23

    Bottom line is that Lee blew the layup. I don’t think Gasol had anything to do with him missing. The lob was perfect, but his jump wasn’t time correctly, and he took the shot at a bad angle. If that pass was for Dwight, it would’ve been a dunk.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    My only question is should players be able to just throw the ball off the backboard and then if there is incidental contact with the rim or the backboard get two points for it?

  • http://slamonline,com fonz

    i dont know why magic fans are crying for the call when howard pulled the same play on gasol with a minute into the game. In fact his hand went through the hoop grabbing net and swatted the ball as it was going down.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    A follow up question, if dwight howard was quicker to the rim on that play and his hand grazed the rim does he get called for offensive basket interference? I think the answer is no , reason being the ball was a mile off the rim and therefore pau hitting his pinky on the rim in no way affected the trajectory of the ball. No goal tend.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Shia, are you saying that in general or regarding Lee’s shot?

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Goaltend did not decide the game, Defensive adjustments by the Lakers ablity to slow down Howard changed the game. Howard really has no offesnive moves, great teaching pat.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Also to me anytime a player hand touches the rim, even if the ball is in the air should be a goaltend and I am a Lakers fan. Players should not be able to touch rim with ball coming to the hoop or if ball is on rim. Goaltend Period, Lakers survive, lets see what happens in Game 3.

  • Statik

    if the shoe was on the other foot, all Laker fans in the world would have simultaneous heart attacks while copying Kobe’s “i”m so pissed I’m gonna smack a chair at the end of regulation” routine…but since the knife missed the jugular, now nobody should give a fcuk, right?

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    In general mostly e. I know lee was trying to actually make the shot but the truth is he was so far off gasol could have punched a hole in the glass and it wouldn’t have changed anything.

  • Khalid Salaam

    lee didnt blow that shot. that was just a hard shot. don’t be an idiot….

  • breeze

    point blank it wasnt a goaltend..he blew the layup orlando back to the drawing board.

  • Be A Real Fan

    Sure Lee missed the alley oop with .6 of a second remaining,but the Magic lost in OT. The better team won. At least ORL made it interesting. LA in 4.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I agree with Khalid. That was a hard shot to finish, let alone the circumstances that surrounded the shot, you know, being a rookie, trying to give your team a huge emotional boost in the most critical moment of your very young career, on a play that you might only rememeber a tiny handful ever being completed in that fashion if you’ve watched this game for any length of time.

  • BostonBaller

    #1 How is this format of 20303 homecourt for the Lakers? #2 I’m watiching these Finals as strictly a fan of the game w/ no preference of a winner. #3 You can not equate a non call in the 1st qtr with a non call with .06 left in the 4th qtr. #4 Every player cries about a call even when they know they weren’t hit inorder to get a call later. #5 You can’t compare the number of calls the teams get overall you have to break it down by qtr and who was aggressive. #6 Great play call at the end, it wasn’t on the coach.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Eboy and meloman are awsome together lol :(

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I hope no one thinks I’m knocking lee or saying it wasn’t a tough shot cause I don’t mean to come off like that in the least. I’m just saying when pau grazed the rim the shot was already decidely not going in.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Eboy and meloman are awsome together!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Magic in 5.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Actually Pau didn’t just grab the rim, he hung on it with two hands, did a chin up, slapped the ball into the air and then dropped kicked it into the crowd. What a d1ck.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I think EVERYONE is grossly understating the 3 games in Orlando. The Magic are going to pretty solid and it’s quite possible by the end of the week all this hysteria will have died down tremendously. If this was a 2-2-1-1-1 series, I’d say the Lakers would close it in 6, but with this format? The Lakers held serve. That’s all they did.

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  • Mooch

    bad call, what else is new. you dont make a new rule book for the last .6 secs. terrible article. because there was a good crowd, we should throw out rules and just give LA a win. Ryne, you’re an idiot for writing this piece.

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