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Thursday, April 1st, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  114 responses

Garnett on Kevin Durant: ‘Michael F*cking Jordan’

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

Twenty-four years ago, a young man walked into the Boston Celtics’ home arena and torched them for 63 points in a Playoff game. Afterwards, Larry Bird famously declared that it was “God disguised as Michael Jordan.”

Last night, Kevin Durant evoked painful memories of MJ for Celtics fans and forward Kevin Garnett. A clearly frustrated KG described the experience in his own colorful way.

On his way to 37 points, Durant shot 15 free throws (and didn’t miss a single one in the process); the Celtics as a team only attempted 17 in total. “Durantula” is a great nickname for KD, but Garnett blessed him with an even better one during the post game presser last night.

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  • JoeMaMa

    Though he was commenting on the inconsistency in foul shooting, it is a great nickname. Garnett went on to blame his f*cking knee for his performance, profess his love for Dunkin’ f*cking donuts, and wished everyone a good motherf*cking night.

  • Flight

    Hahaaha

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Funny how Paul barely reacts to the comment. The Celts really are going to have a hard time getting out of the first round playing either the Bucks, Heat or Bobcats, depending on where they finish….that’s real.

  • Flight

    Celts are sliding. Nice.

  • vtrobot

    uh oh, haters, he’s disrespecting the game. do what you do, KG. it’s funny when they have no delay on the local channel and don’t edit KG during the postgame press conferences. i’m tired of b*tching about the refs, but it sounds like there were some lame calls for KD at the end of the game (based on Ben’s game notes). i’m fine with the fact that the C’s lost since they played a good game. c’mon NBA, don’t let great games be tainted by ref bullsh*t.

  • vtrobot

    @ E: I think they’re underdogs against MIL right now, but that series will be a good battle. I don’t think they’d have too much trouble with MIA or CHA. It’s going to be BOS #4 and MIL #5 and there’s those two BOS/MIL games right at the end of the season. BOS aren’t slipping that much. This part of the season is almost as good as the actual playoffs.

  • Ree Roe

    KG, shut the hell up. You got outplayed & outhustled by a younger, more athletic team in your building. Hawks are the 3 seed now KG, deal with it

  • http://Www.twitter. Darksaber

    I love it when he’s so enraged he forgets his PC-manners. Endearing.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    If Durant took 15 free throws, that means he got fouled, what 7 or 8 times maybe(depending on how many and-ones he got)? Is that so hard to believe?

  • will

    KG gettin his Samuel L. Jackson on…

  • http://Www.twitter. Darksaber

    Jackie, not at all, given how often he touches the ball. Now the ones who SHOULD be cursing are the Bucks. A 36 FT difference is just disgusting. Yayy, let’s hand the Cavs the game…

  • http://staticseth.blogspot.com Seth

    Refs were favorable to Durant last night. Throws his hands up in the air after coughing up the ball and he gets free throws. Amazing player, though.

  • LA Huey

    @vtrobot, Celtics fans have reason to worry about the Bucks but I wouldn’t go so far as to say underdogs. And Charlotte resembles ATL in ’08 so they can’t sleep too easy with that. Miami is easy money though.

  • Jumper

    I truly hope that nickname sticks!!

    Kevin (Michael F*ckin Jordan) Durant

    It just seems like a great nickname that would warrant an explanation every time it’s used.

    Way better than “the kid” or “The Big Ticket”

  • Diesel

    I love seeing garnett miserable after the way he was talkin trash the entire bulls series while sitting on the bench. The celtic team in general are a bunch of “scream at the top of my lungs after making a routine layup in the 2nd quarter” losers. Good to see them on their way down.

  • Fat Lever

    Funny how KG wasn’t complaining when PP was getting calls left and right in the playoffs a couple of years ago. If you’re aggressive and initiating contact, you’re going to get calls. Yes, the ref’ing has been inconsistent to say the least, and that’s putting it nicely, but it seems like that when the C’s are given adversity nowadays, they don’t know how to properly handle it. Shut up, and handle your biz. KG must still be reeling from Manu taking his soul on that block.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    I got this link from Yahoo. This Sums up Boston’s Title Hopes: http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/celtics-garnett-bonner-spurs.jpg

  • Ben Curran

    The C’s are not sliding y’all they are clearly gonna get out of the first round when its PLAYOFF time they will explode!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    nvm it wasn’t from Yahoo. it was from Both teams played hard.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jackie
    That would mean that the Celtics only got fouled 8 or 9 times while shooting.
    I mean, I agree that 15 free throws isn’t that many, but it’s a little crazy when you think that the Celtics only shot 17.
    Paul Pierce and Rondo are good at drawing fouls in the lane.

  • John

    KG complains bout Durant’s calls but yet he gets away with the most moving screens. He should get a offensive foul every time.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    I’m glad this was about superstar calls and Durantula didn’t ACTUALLY get compared to Michael F*cking Jordan.
    I mean, I get it, KD’s a good-ass player, but damn… there was a few things Jordan could do that KD can’t. You know, like play defense. Or, you know, actually have a season where he averages more assists than turnovers. I’m gonna have to start hating KD out of habit if he keeps gettin’ this blind love.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Really Jukai?
    Interesting.

  • Ree Roe

    @ Fat Lever, I agree 100%. All I’m wondering is why KG spent all his time yappin & b*tchin after the game & was quiet during the game? What, no clapping in an opposing PG’s face down the court? No flailing like a b*tch when a backup C gets in your grill? KG continues to act like a f’n punk

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Allenp: Yeah. I don’t know, I like Durant, dude’s so down to earth, I bet he’d even hang out with me.
    Yet, to me, he’s still a glorified scorer. A legendary scorer in his own right, but a scorer. He’s gotta buff up his game to separate from being a George Gervin or Dominique Wilkins to a full-rounded star. I mean, people are talking he’s gonna have a greater all-around game than Wade and Lebron… how in the world do people see that? This guy’s been in the L for three years, he still can’t pass the ball, and his defense is still inadequate. Being able to score the way he does is dazzling and it can lead teams to the playoffs year-in to year-out; honestly, if he never changes up his game he’ll still be one of the all-time greats… but he wont even be top-5 in the NBA in the future unless the dude expands his game.
    Feel free to disagree.

  • don

    well, the thing is, i look at celt’s roster, and i don’t really see anyone who can guard KD35… hold on, let me look at EVERY TEAM’s roster.. uh, i just don’t see anyone who can guard KD35 right now. and bron too.

  • Stillballin

    Kg just wrote a $20,000 check..for a fine to give to david stern.. Hehe!!

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com CHRIS

    well its no way u can ave that many points in the nba without gettingt the foulline alot. durat has obviously earned the espect of the refs because they give him the whistle. buti heard he gets to the line more than anybody not name dwight howard(including lebron) thats crazzzy!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Jukai, although Durant was known primarily as a scorer, you can’t knock on his defense. Dude’s defense has improved a lot over the years and please don’t ignore the fact that OKC is one of the top defensive teams in the NBA right now.

  • Rico

    This really surprises me. I heard KG was a very religious man and couldn’t tolerate profanity. He doesn’t even watch rated-r movies.

    He must have been really upset. Poor guy.

  • Kyle

    KG is still crying about Ginobli’s absurd block that sent him to the floor, and almost paralyzed him. He can’t bark and talk a lot of nothing now, cause he he knows how much of a douche he is now. Ginobli is 6’6, 205… KG is almost 7 feet and 253. The box score doesn’t show a block from Ginoboli. The game must have been played in Boston. What a joke…

  • Rico

    Maybe his ass still hurts from getting his shiz blocked by Manu the other night.

  • Rico

    He must still be bent from getting blocked so hard by Manu the other night.

  • http://witnesstheking.blogspot.com Witness

    @ Rico: KG must be mormon.

  • riggs

    i LOVE when all the haters come out of the woodwork for KG, when yall were on all his jock that championship year. Now i know how james feel about kobe.

  • vtrobot

    someone should post that he must still be mad because of manu’s block the other night. KG isn’t dead yet. he might still sh*t on your sandwich one more time.

  • Lucas

    KG used to be one of my favorite players, but now he’s just a whiny lil b!tch. You’re washed up, deal with it!

  • http://philaflava.blogspot.com Teddy-the-Bear

    So… Kevin Durant’s new nick name is Michael Jordan? Where have I heard that name before?

  • Diesel

    Well done @ vtrobot – 2:38. Seriously though, he’s clearly complaining about the favorable foul calls Durant gets because he’s still mad about not getting enough playing time on that 2000 olympic team.

  • barnabusb

    @riggs: Actually, even when they won the championship, nobody was on KG’s jock. Everyone hated him then, too.

  • rico

    @Witness…..your comment made me laugh out loud! Too funny!

  • ab_40

    if you think milwaukee is gonna beat boston you’re a damn fool

  • http://www.realultimatepower.net doyouwantmore

    KG’s a good old-fashioned sore loser, simple and plain. Durant is the new ‘kid’. – - – The Kid is dead! Long live the Kid!

  • Logues

    damn, i guess im the only true kg fan sitll out there, but i do agree that he’s old but not that washed up, he’s still an effective player

  • Carlos

    Durant leads the league in free throws…he draws contact and gets the call, don’t get up on him or he’ll shoot over you! D-up close and he’ll pull the Kobe Bryant rip move and goto the free throw line…don’t hate bc the kids a superstar!!

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (hoot hoot) KD ftw

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    ab_40: im one of those fools. Rondo proved last year against Chicago that he cant stop fast young point guards (ala Rose and Jennings), and the rest of the squad the Celtics got is either old or just a werid piece. The Bucks will beat them in 5-7 games.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    As much as i love Durant (which is a lot) he still has a lot of refining to do with his game before anyone can really compare him to Mike. I do think he could one day be on that level, that day is not today though.

  • Boston sucks

    Funny
    I didnt see him bit*hing about the refs in Game 2 of the 08 Finals when Leon Powe(WHO??) shot 2 milliion free throws

  • http://philaflava.blogspot.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Bucks are not beating the Celtics. I don’t see it.

  • http://wealwayswin.net Hersey

    Watched the game, the calls in question were bad and they happened at a crucial point in the game. I get Garnett’s frustration but they let Jeff Green burn them for threes on the same play twice and Ray and Sheed missed WIDE OPEN looks to keep the C’s in it. Great soundbyte, poor late game execution by Boston.

  • kennyrocks

    i hate anyone on the boston team, period

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Thanks Riggs!! lol

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    You will, all in due time, Teddy.

  • http://twitter.com/PDXGayBBall dma

    Those two were crying throughout the whole game.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    niQ: Help-wise, his defense has improved, and so I’ll give him a lot of credit in that area, especially on the blocks. I figured he’d be Nash-esque in that category but he’s actually rejecting some people.
    Iso wise, I don’t see any improvement what-so-ever.
    it’s just masked by what a great defensive team OKC has.

  • dankNugs

    i think the NBA reffing is completely bullsh*t, the only reason we don’t hear more complaints like this is because David Stern fines anybody that does. He is the WORST league commissioner out there; the reffing is getting out of hand (the whistle is blown every single time there is any contact around the basket at all) and all he cares about is the markebility of the game.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    Durant is going to be the best player in the league in a couple years if he already isn’t i called this when he was in college.

  • Overtime

    Can you imagine if KG had been playing against the Heat in the 06 Finals?
    Wow..guiness world record for F-Bombs

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Pardeep: but why dude? Why? What makes you say that? That stuff is exactly what I’m talking about.

  • Dillan

    refs inconsistent?! No way…..

  • JD

    Some people need to stop hating on KG – How often do you get to hear KG calling someone a Jordan! hehe ;P

  • Sparty’s Law

    Sparty’s Law on Kevin Garnett: “Douche F*cking Bag”

  • Jeff

    Jukai I understand what your saying, but just give Durant the benefit of the doubt. He is only 21, is a really humble dude and is going to be a star. He openly said his focus was workin on his D this year. He is already one of the best pure scorers in the game and will improve the rest of his game overtime. A lot of people just like him because he is just such a down to earth guy. The whole thunder team is fun to watch. They are young, exciting and play as a team.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    KG doesn’t hold anything back. I have rewinded that statement over and over again. someone sample that into a song and it will be a bonafide classic.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Jeff: I agree! He’s working to be an all-legend in the mold of Gervin and Dominique. I’m just not sure he’s going to be with Larry or Magic. Or, for that matter, Lebron or Wade.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Gervin was a total bad @ss. If you look up “Bad@ssedness” in the dictionary, his picture comes up.
    Anyways, I think Durant will surpass Wade, but I don’t see him getting better than LeBron James. Don’t ask me why, either.

  • Ronald

    Yeah, KD or (MFJ) as he should be now called has the potential to be the best player in the NBA due to his skillset and talent but all he is right now is the smoothest scorer in the NBA and probably will be for a very long time considering his game. But he is far from an all-around player. His defense is still so-so, his passing isn’t great (needs to work on court vision and timing) and his driving skills isn’t Lebronesque.

  • Ronald

    And people need to start giving more credit to the management of OKC in bringing in a good amount of talent coupled with role-players to surround their young talent. i.e Kristic/Sefalosha/Collison/Ibaka

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Read Ronald’s posts and learn.

  • T-Money

    And actually, his jumper is not butter. It’s just average. I won’t argue it but the data is there for everyone to see. He gets most of his buckets driving to the rim, at the line and in transition. People have short memories, there is nothing KD has done so far that Bron has not done. In fact, he is TRAILING Bron’s production at the same age. I mean, he is a fantastic player but some people seem to think that he is revolutionizing the game. He’s not.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    lol @ JoeMaMa

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    I say that because he is going to gain weight which will do his game wonders because his driving ability will be insane and his jumper will get even better because of his strength and the game will be much easier to him he will average 35 some day and he will learn to play defense and will become a better passer just like Melo and Wade and LeBron did. Durant is destined for greatness and he might just be 20 pounds away from it.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Oh come now, Pardeep! Lebron and Wade have always been all-worldly passers who many times will pass over shots they could hit to get their teammates involved. You’re talking 5 assists a game as ROOKIES. If either Wade or Lebron get 5 assists a game now, they had a bad passing game. Now, if Durant gets five assists in a game, he’s doubled his average. That’s unacceptable for a dude who is going to eventually ‘exceed’ Lebron.
    Also, twenty pounds does not mean you will become a good defender. I’m not even SURE Durant can put on 20 pounds with his incredibly small frame (if he can, that’s the max) but that simply doesn’t make a good defender… sure he has the talent to become a good one, but I gotta see it. He is gambling on steals and yeah, he’s going up and getting blocks (which, I’m telling you, I’m very impressed about) but he still doesn’t look like he tries on iso defense.
    And Melo never really improved his passing, that’s why the team went and got Billups. If Durant becomes as good of a passer as Melo, he’s still got leaps and bounds to go.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    Jukai: You are overrating passing so much its not hard to pass the ball. Just because someone doesn’t average at least 5 apg doesn’t mean they aren’t good passers. Passing is a skill not a stat and the only reason Durant isn’t averaging 6 apg is because he doesn’t have the mind or strength to do it all in a game, not because hes not a good passer. Once Durant adds muscle and can drive to the hoop at will like LeBron he will be able to get his 30 points in 3 quarters and get the extra 4 assists he needs in the game and then hell be averaging 32 and 6 and 9 but it will be because he added pounds which made the game easier and allowed him to get to the rim at will. The Nuggets never got Billups because Melo wasn’t a good passer LOL! its because they didn’t have a true point guard and needed to play the way George Karl wanted them to play freely but with ball movement, effisiantly and calm not every guy running around trying to get 30 points and Billups brought that control and Melo followed his lead it wasn’t because he wasn’t a good passer.

  • Hangtime Hec

    KD will not go from averaging 2.2 assists a game to 6.9-7.2 assists that Wade and Bron are averaging now. That is just absurd. I mean look at his stats. He progressively scored more points and brought down more rebounds as years gone on. But his assists have stayed static. You could say that he “peaked” in that element. He is a Outstanding Scorer, a good rebounder and a down to earth guy. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

  • http://philaflava.blogspot.com Teddy-the-Bear

    SLAM: The Kings of Misleading Headlines.

  • http://philaflava.blogspot.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Kevin Durant is OBVIOUSLY not as good a passer as LeBron or Wade. LeBron is averaging 8.5 assists per game, that’s facking incredible for a small forward. Very few POINT GUARDS are better passers than LeBron James.
    However, Kevin Durant and can be (if he isn’t already) a better rebounder than both LeBron and D Wade.

  • http://philaflava.blogspot.com Teddy-the-Bear

    BETCATS: Rondo may have trouble guarding quick point guards, but so does every other good defensive point guard. Good luck to Kyle Lowry or Russell Westbrook trying to stop Derrick Rose.
    That being said, don’t forget that this point works both ways. Rondo will ALSO have a field day against young point guards… He pretty much averaged a triple double against Derrick Rose that series.

  • http://philaflava.blogspot.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Larry Bird’s quote is NOT AT ALL like Kevin Garnett’s. Misleading explanation to a misleading headline.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Pardeep: And you sir, are far underrating passing. Yes, great passers don’t’ always have to average gaudy assist numbers (take Jordan, for example! Fantastic passer, but his role on offense and in the triangle highly limited it when he was winning championships)… but one does NOT average more turnovers than assists and be a ‘good passer.’ You think all those turnovers are from getting the ball stolen on drives or running on the base-line? Many of them are blown passes off a double team, or doing too much against too much offense because he didn’t see the open man. For someone who I remember praising Iverson for his passing numbers so much, I’m surprised you’re downplaying Durant’s deficiency in this area.
    He’s not a good passer. At all. His passing abilities are subpar and his overall court-vision is limited at this time. He can improve, it’s not impossible: Rick Barry came into the league as a shoot-first, can’t pass forward and became one of the best passing 3s ever. There are also those who never did: Gervin got told he needed to pass more and well, never really did. I’m naturally pessimistic, but so is history, so I’m leaning that Durant simply wont improve his passing that much.
    And stop with adding muscle. LOOK AT HIS SHOULDERS. He can’t add that much muscle on his frame. And honestly, because he towers over so many of his defenders, he really doesn’t need to add too much muscle, he can just use all of his mass… so enough, muscle isn’t a cure all for a game.
    I’ll close by saying, if Melo was a good passer, they could have played George Karl’s “free flowing” style of play.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    But yeah, sure Kevin Durant suddenly goes from a below-average defender to all-defense 1st team and from a 2:3 assist turnover ratio to a 7:3 assist turnover ratio, all while continuing to raise his scoring by five points and keeping his rebounds steady in the next two years, he’ll be better than Lebron.
    Since that wont happen in reality, I’ll be watching carefully to see if Durant can even surpass Dwayne Wade.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    aww man, dont tell me that Durant gambles and bangs hookers too?? ( sorry the tiger/MJ/chuck story and this one were too close together) also- (once again. its late here on west coast = didnt read the comments. If someone already said this. Im sorry for taking your post.)

  • Randy Brown

    I refuse to believe that KD is going to get that much heavier

  • Randy Brown

    And for the next few years Durant will be the best scorer, but Lebron will always be the better player

  • http://nba.com Reflex

    Jukai, you’re playing down Durant way too much, get off your high horse. He’s 21, 3rd year in his league & is averaging 29-7-3 for the year. At 21. He will undoubtedly get better and I don’t necessarily see an issue with his passing stats, it’s not his game. What is his game is potentially dropping 35&9 night in night out. Then and then no one will really give 2 hoots about his assist/turnover ratios, save that stat for PGs.

  • kudos

    Durant is clearly gonna be Dirk 2.0. What lebron failed to do at that age, is take out these good teams, while clearly loving to take the clutch shots. What else?! Shoot some freethrows. Lebron has been in the league 7 years, and still has no kind of rhythm to his shot..at all.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Get off my high horse? Huh? Do you know what that phrase means, bro?
    Yes, you’re right, when Durant drops 35 and 9 a game, no one will care about his passing, and he will elevate himself to the superstar level in the NBA.
    Of course, two problems with that statement is
    a) All other players who had to put up those points in a season (Jordan, Kobe, Baylor, McAdoo, King, Iverson, McGrady, Gervin, Abdul-Jabbar) were not met with much playoff success because the reason they had to score those points was due to the terrible teams they were on (Barry and Chamberlain excluded)
    b) even if he’s dropping 35 and 9, that STILL DOESN”T MAKE HIM AN ALL-AROUND BETTER PLAYER THAN LEBRON OR WADE! Yeah, you’re 100% right when you say it isn’t his game, but the best of the best don’t have glaring flaws like terrible passing and subpar defense!

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: I hope you don’t take this the wrong way. This is only a question: Kevin McHale, who is widely considered one of the all timers, was he a terrible passer, or sub par defender? Just asking, take it easy on me.

  • T-Money

    Averaging 35 pts per game a) is a hard thing to do b) means that your team is not very good because you’re taking 26-27+ shots a game. It is laughable to me that people are certain that he will get to 35 because he scored 30 in his 3rd year. Guess who scored 31 in his 3rd year? Bron Bron. And how much is he scoring now? 30. Could he score 35? Probably. Will he? Never. Why? Cleveland would not be as good of a team with him gunning like that. Let’s just enjoy KD for who he is. He’s a fantastic scorer. Right now though, he’s barely top 10 in the NBA.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai

    You need to explain whether Durant has to become outstanding at defense, or just average, or slightly above average.

    You also need to explain what his passing has to be for him to be considered adequate.

    I think that if Durant can get up to about 4 or 5 assists, along with his 8 boards and 30-32 points, he has to be in the discussion with Bron and Wade.
    Mainly because I do think he’s more efficient as a scorer and can get his without affecting the overall team scheme and flow.
    I mean, Kobe, at his peak, only averaged 5 boards and 5 assists per game along with his 30+ points and he was widely considered the best in the league due to his skillset.
    It’s not just stats, it’s also about skillset.
    Right now, Durant’s overall skillset isn’t on the same level as Lebron’s.
    But, he is actually, in my opinion, a more efficient scorer and a better rebounder. So, while he has some areas to improve, the fact that he’s in the conversation in his third year bodes well for him.

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    @The Philosopher: McHale was actually a great defender. He was an absolute TERRIBLE passer. His teammates used to call him the ‘black hole’ because once you tossed the ball in, you weren’t getting it back. DJ once passed it to him and the defenses collaped, and DJ was jumping up and down to get McHale’s attention and get the ball back, and Parish looked at DJ and said, “you know, he’s never ever going to give it back to you.”
    That being said, no one ever put McHale in Lebron’s class.
    @Allenp: To be considered in Lebron and Wade’s class, he’d have to become an above average defender, and an above average passer. His offense is fluid and fantastic, and his arsenal of moves is far more plentiful than Lebron’s… but is Durant THAT ahead of Lebron offensively that that we can give him that much leeway for his inferiority in his passing and defense? Durant may one day become a pretty damn solid defender, but I really believe he will never have the gift for passing. Averaging 4-5 assists a game is ‘average’ when the ball is in your hands and you’re being double teamed that much. Averaging two and a half is pitiful.
    And let’s not compare Kobe to KD here. At 21, Kobe was averaging more than twice the assists and was already considered a lock-down defender.
    It’s really the fact he IS in the conversation that bugs me. Sure, pencil him in for top-5 in the NBA every year, I have no problem with that. But Pardeep isn’t alone when he thinks Durant can honestly become the BEST player in the NBA, with across-the-charts inferior numbers to Lebron at the same age?
    Wha? Where’s the sense in that?

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    And on a side-note, I think I like KD a litttttttle better than T-Money does with his barely top-10 comment.
    On another side-note, I believe Lebron and KD are pretty much even in the rebounding department. I’ll explain my reasoning, but only if anyone cares.

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai
    Twice the assists, would be 5 assists.
    Kobe has never averaged more than six assists a game and his norm is 4 or 5. Even when he was the main facilliator for the Lakers he put up just under six assists, along with like 21 or 23 points per game.
    Five assists from your small forward is damn good. Besides, Durant is NOT a ball dominating player like Lebron or Wade. He gets shots, but does not handle the rock anywhere near as often as those two do.
    I think the belief that Durant can be better than Lebron is due to his rock solid foundation. Dude’s footwork is nice, his court sense is nice and his technique is nice.
    What he needs to do is improve some of his effort and focus on defense, along with getting more comfortable handling double and triple teams.
    I think that people believe it’s only a matter of time before that occurs.

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: McHale wasn’t a great defender individually. He was a great help defender. His blocked shots were from the weak side. He used to get lit up.

  • The Philosopher

    My point is, Kevin Durant is Hall of Fame material. Period.

  • The Philosopher

    @ Jukai: And, they voted McHale among the 50 greatest players in NBA history. Is LeBron the greatest of all time, being that McHale is “not in LeBron’s class”, even though McHale has three rings as an integral part of some of the all time great NBA teams? Again, just asking.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    I get what Jukai is saying. Because of how easy the offensive game is coming to Durant, he has the POTENTIAL to be the most dominant offensive force in the L for years to come. Other parts of his game have quite a ways to go, so you can’t just assume in 3 years he’ll gain all that ground and automatically be the best player in the game.
    People, including myself, love KD because he is modest. He is quietly great. The Anti-LeBron, if you will.
    But at this point in time, all you can say is that Durant is a better scorer than LeBron. His skills allow us to envision him POSSIBLY surpassing LBJ as a basketball player, but it is only a possibility. I can’t say in 3 years, he WILL be better than LeBron, even if I want it to happen. He hasn’t shown that, at least not yet.

  • http://CourtCred.com Coop

    Durant is the future superstar in the league. Check out one of the future stars in college basketball Jelan Kendrick: http://courtcred.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1704:mcdonalds-honors-jelan-kendrick-at-breakfast-with-friends-and-family&catid=42:features&Itemid=44

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Durant is a better scorer (they’re actually tied right now) and rebounder than LeBron, but LeBron is a far better passer. There we go.
    Right now LeBron is the better all-around player.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Also, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James have NEVER played with a point guard of Russell Westbrook’s caliber. Kobe and LeBron need to dominate the ball; Durant has Westbrook to facilitate. So 2.5 apg is NOT that unreasonable for a forward–okay let’s get this straight: he’s a FORWARD, not a POINT GUARD–especially when Westbrook is averaging 8 assists per game.
    The highest average Fisher has ever had was 4.4 apg during the 2000-2001 season.

  • Joey E.

    3/90M extension for Kobe

  • John

    Assist #s are so overrated

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    @Allenp: Kobe’s career average is 5.3 and he averages around 5-6 assists a game. You’re cutting him short. Kobe doesn’t have the court vision but if he sees you, he can get you the ball, so in essence, he’s 2-3 times the passer that Durant is. He’s also five times the defender
    @The Philosopher: You’re wrong. He was a fantastic help defender but he was also an underrated man-on-man defender. He had incredibly long arms and while his lateral quickness wasn’t spectacular, it was adequate for his size. You’re downgrading him while simultaneously overrating him.
    People who weren’t in the NBA’s top 50: Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Allen Iverson, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Dikembe Mutumbo, Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Webber, Vince Carter… do all those guys belong in the top 50? I dunno. Haven’t really checked. Would they push McHale out? I dunno. Haven’t really checked. But trust me, it’s getting crowded in that top-50.
    So yeah, in my mind, Lebron is definitely so much better than McHale that they’re not in the same class.
    @Teddy: Don’t use the point guard excuse. If Durant could control the ball and pass it out, Westbrooke would control it less. I also see Durant’s dribbling as a bit suspect at time, especially in the open court, but I can’t DARE mention something offensively that Durant isn’t spectacular at so I wont.
    @Everyone:
    To sum it up
    Durant is a bit better offensively. He’s a bit better at rebounding.
    Lebron is a SUPERIOR passer. He’s a SUPERIOR defender.
    And I’d throw intangibles to Lebron too.
    But yeah, I’m sure Durant will be better in two years, because everyone drastically improves all areas of their games they show no talent in. Sigh.

  • T-Money

    Allenp: why is he a better rebounder than Bron? / What people really mean when they say that KD is a better scorer than LeBron is that his offense is more fluid. He is not where LeBron is in terms of production and he can still be shut down at the end of games. KD is not there yet. / KD right now, he’s a scorer. That’s all he is. And that’s not good enough to be considered top 5. He gives you nothing on D, he doesn’t make his teammates better, he is nowhere near the leader that guys like Kobe, Bron, Wade are. When his shot is not falling, he can’t help you.

  • BostonBaller

    Great scorers should be good passers b/c they get doubled teamed which leaves 1 or 2 teammates open b/c of defensive rotation. (just saying) Repost from other KG post: “Don’t run w/ the popular stream of disdain for a player..It’s funny how fans seem to remember KG barking at Calderon (who barked back) and claim he only goes after pg’s and lesser players in the L. None of you will acknowledge or remember that KG was doing a lot of barking and L . James Sunday (Last I saw LBJ was a “real” player)” Kg is pretty much the same now as he was earlier in his career plus a few more F bombs so I think more of the hate and venom stem from him being on The Celtics. So many players complain during and after games I don’t see how any of you or myself can single out any one of them unless we dislike the team in general. IT’S JUST A GAME SO RELAX.Win or lose I still enjoy them. Congrats to Butler..I was pulling for them. lol

  • BostonBaller

    If I knew a certain player drops F bombs more than he sweats then I as a station or network would have the interviews on a delay for editing purposes. You can jump on the Boston media for that but hold the “they are bias comments b/c every cities media is biased”. lol.

  • BostonBaller

    I wouldn’t say that LeBron is way ahead of McHale b/c their jobs were/are much different. McHale could have been in the scoring race every year but he had Bird and others who could score. (his FG% was .554 so imagine if he had as many opps as James) I’m claiming he was a better all around player I’m just saying don’t knock what you don’t know.

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  • Ngoie Kafita

    Not hating on KD but i don’t see him becoming the all around juggernaut that Bron is.
    His offence is bananas, true. But a better rebounder?
    C’mon, of course Durant is goin to get rebounds but put James on the same squad and i bet he’ll average around 10 boards a game.
    Put KD on the cavs and his averages will drop to around 6 or something.

  • http://blomsteve@yahoo.com Steve Blom

    I’m a huge Laker fan and I hope they repeat this year. I don’t like it when a player is criticized because he happens to make it to the free throw line. Durant is a great young player so give him credit. Forget about the referees and the free throw line and play basketball!

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  • http://www.threadsandkicks.com.au Eduardo

    Hahahaha Love KG’s passion and honesty in the game. Need to see more passionate players like this coming up. Like how the Celtics have returned to the old school rough ways of playing hard defensive basketball. Shame they’re pretty much on their last legs now.

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