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Tuesday, September 14th, 2010 at 10:50 am  |  81 responses

For Old Time’s Sake: Mark Jackson

Want to learn how to pass the rock? Study Mark Jackson. Born and bred in Brooklyn, NY, Jackson was a street legend, high school star, collegiate standout and first round draft pick. He was drafted by his hometown Knicks with the 18th overall pick in 1987 after lighting up the Big East at St. John’s. As a rookie Jackson averaged 13.6 pts, 10.6 assists and won ROY. With Ewing and Oakley by his side, Jackson helped make the Knicks a perennial playoff contender. In ’92 he was traded to the Clippers for Charles Smith and Doc Rivers and helped lead the Clips to a few playoff births in the 90s. He was later traded to the Pacers, teaming up with Reggie Miller to make one of the most lethal backcourts in the NBA. We all know of the epic Playoff battles between the Knicks and Pacers when beating New York meant everything to Jackson. They did trade him after all… Shout out to Kevin for sending in this dope mix and shout out to Ben Osborne, SLAM’s Editor-in-Chief and Mark Jackson’s #1 fan.

@Schneezy

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  • http://screwjams.tumblr.com cramzy

    I need him and van gundy back in my life. Cmon November!

  • Darius

    The song choice with this video wasnt any good but I like the dance Jackson is doin at the end

  • JTaylor21

    DAMN, 14/11 as a rookie that’s downright filthy. Dude is a TOP-10 point of all-time and one of the best passer of all-time. Though other PGs have better APG numbers, he played at a high level for a longer period of time.

  • ClippuM42

    it was called the jackson jiggle @darius…

  • larrylegend

    unorthodox player, love his style of play. can anyone confirm, that one of his nicknames was turtle? ben?

  • Papa Smurf

    Love Mark Jackson. Great FOTS.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Todd Spehr

    Most assists for a rookie ever in ’88, breaking Oscar Robertson’s record.

  • Overtime

    Over 10 assists as rook, amazing.
    And cosign Cramzy, Jackson + Van Gundy are BY FAR best commenting duo out there

  • hammer

    I’ll take marv albert and the czar ANY day over breen,jackson and gundy. Marc jackson was a gr8 player but just so-so as a commentator. Van gundy @ times don’t know what the hell he’s talking about. The hell w/nba on abc. Tnt does the best coverage even tho there only on thurs. Which kinda sucks. Wish they were on more like back n the day when they had the nba bout 3x’s a week

  • JTaylor21

    @Overtime, those guys are cool but I rather listen to McHale/CWebb any day. They are funnier and have more knowledge of the game.

  • JTaylor21

    Also shout outs to the GREATEST commentator of all-time; Mr. Hubie Brown. It’s a joy listening to him breakdown the action during a game.

  • Jay c

    Mama there goes that man

  • larrylegend

    @JTaylor: maybe kevin has more knowledge, but he has trouble, expressing it. Top 3 Commentators in no particular order:
    hubie
    marv
    walton

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    First off, as some of you know, this is my favorite player ever. I was harrassing Schneezy for a long time to get Mark in FOTS, and I’m certainly proud to see him here. HOWEVER, this mix barely scratches the surface. The Mark that played for the Nuggets, Raptors and round 2 with the Knicks was a shell of his early self. Even with the Pacers he’d become more of a leader/role model than the all-star-level baller he was years 1 and 2 with the Knicks and his first year with the Clippers. Maybe if I have time I’ll look for more highlights of him online. The Mark in those days was an even bigger hotdog, could dunk (once through a bounce-pass alley-oop to himself for a dunk as a Clipper, and once dunked on Scottie Pippen as a Knick)and was really the sickest passer I’ve ever seen. Just a joy to watch play. And @larrylegend, The Turtle was not one of his nicknames, but it was a pretty apt description and it was the headline of the feature I did on Mark in SLAM #25 (the only feature he’s ever had in SLAM). The name fit not only because he was slow, but because his career was a lesson in perseverance (he was the 4th-ranked point guard in NEW YORK CITY as a senior in HS and retired as 2nd ALL-TIME in NBA History in assists. Remarkable.)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I forgot how flashy Jackson was back in the day.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    @darrius, @clippU: Mark actually called it the shimmy, but he did way better stuff early in his career, like the airplane!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And I also vote for Hubie Brown as the best commentator in the business.
    However, for hometown folks, I like the cats who do the Warriors games and Heat games, along with the cat who does the Hornets radio broadcast.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Also, my Twitter avatar (@bosborne17) shows his reaction to being drafted.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    @Allenp: his flashiness was off the charts. Here’s a mix that captures his early days. Even better than the one above (or at least a better indication of how a young kid growing up in New York could make this dude his favorite player): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv9ZE-KY4Iw

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne
  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Sorry, the second one Schneezy posted was good.

  • http://slamonline.com Schneezy

    2nd video highlights the younger “Turtle”. Good Suggestion.

  • hammer

    Pip got the best of mark n 98 playofss tho. Tanacious d on him. A thing of beuty how he harassed mark. @ times u could tell mark didn’t know what 2 do

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Like I said, Hammer, by 98 Mark had been in the League more than a decade! He was certainly no match for Pippen (ironically enough, Pip was tied with Michael Jordan as my second-favorite player back then)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Mark doesn’t get credit for making the most of a severe lack of physical ability. I mean, dude was slow even when he was young, and wasn’t a great shooter, so his ability to get to the league and stay there is really something.

  • Papa Smurf

    Ben, your excuse is a bit weak – given the fact that Pippen had been in the league for just as long. Still, I was a big fan of both players. Pippen was the greatest defensive player I’ve ever seen. And Jackson was one of the most enjoyable players to watch.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    one million percent cosign of what Allenp just wrote

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    @papa smurf: of course, Pippen could’ve locked down Mark at any point. We’re talking about one of the greatest defenders ever, who stood 6-8, against a slow, 6-3 point guard. I’m just saying Mark was at least a little more athletic/dynamic earlier in his career.

  • Overtime

    @ Jtaylor, No shame in that, im biggest C-Webb fan, I do find that Hubie Brown’s knowledge is the deepest and most interesting.
    I just like the Van Gundy/ Jackson combo. Not forgetting the great play by play guys. Mr Mike Breen for example

  • larrylegend

    thanks ben, as u see, some great articles just stay on my mind, even i mix some up, lol. i am about to change my (annoying) nick here on SLAM to “turtle”, not only as tribute to action jackson, more because my game is like a turtle over the last 15 years. anyway, always a pleasure, seeing guys relaying more on their brain, than on their physical abilities.

  • hammer

    Co-sign papa smurf

  • larrylegend
  • Yann Blavec

    The Knicks could have kept him (and Rod Strickland) Maybe they would have had a chance against the Bulls in the 90′s.

  • http://dsjkfl.com Jukai

    Highly highly highly underrated

  • http://google c_cantrell

    the most underrated point of all time

  • http://dsjkfl.com Jukai

    I always get upset when people put this dude on the level of Rod Strickland and Mark Price.
    Mark Jackson was pure greatness

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The most?
    Nah, I don’t think so. What he was was a great passer, who developed into a passable shooter, who had a reliable post game, spotty defense and a lot of attitude. Don’t forget inteligence.
    I think he’s correctly rated, and his status might, just might, be a little inflated because of his assist totals.
    While I don’t think he gets enough credit for being very, very smart, I do think he gets enough overall respect around the league considering all the deficiencies in his game.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    VERY underrated point..

  • chrisneww

    not too hard on the eyes either. ;)

  • PapaBearATL

    Very exciting to watch, an example of how to make everyone on your team, that much better. Underated, I don’t think so, undercredited would be a much better description. Great b-ball IQ, added a little streetball flair to the League without making it campy or over the top, gotta love it!

  • WolfNast

    90′s was by far the best decade in the NBA

  • http://google c_cantrell

    i cant think of a more underrated point ever

  • arjae828

    @allen p…think about the description you just gave…great passer, really smart, passable shooter…don’t those adjectives bring j.kidd to mind? very similiar players. gotta think that fact alone makes him underrated. or maybe j.kidd’s overrated too? gotta admit i’m a fan, but i hate that he’s considered ahead of the glove.

  • JTaylor21

    @Yann Blavec, having 2 point guards at the same time would not be wise when playing the bulls. @WolfNast, the 90s was great but chill out the best decade by far crap. @Cantrell you’re VERY right my friend and @AllenP, if he’s not the most then who is?

  • http://google c_cantrell

    jkidd is not overrated.. jkidd is a top 5 point of all time.. id personally place the glove ahead of him tho

  • JTaylor21

    @Cantrell, you’re VERY wrong my friend, JKidd is a better point guard than GP. He’s a WAY better passer, rebounder, leader, and winner, while GP is obviously the better defender, scorer, and yapper.

  • http://dsjkfl.com Jukai

    How does one measure ‘winner’
    Jason Kidd has two finals appearences
    GP has a ring.
    Doesn’t that make GP more of a ‘winner’ even though he didn’t lead his team to that championship? He hit two of the most important shots in that game.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    idk man.. maybe im jus biased after watching dude shut mj down in the playoffs.. dude was an absolute beast but yes kidd was a better passer and rebounder but the leadership issue is up for grabs between the 2 tho i know u will argue this stating that kidd lead his team to 2 consecutive finals appearances.. they are very close i would say

  • JTaylor21

    @cantrell, you’re RIGHT they are very very close and I can see why you chose GP but I rather have JKidd. Let’s agree to disagree.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    sounds good bro

  • http://google c_cantrell

    sounds good bro

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jason Kidd is to Mark Jackson what a Ferrari is to a Miata.
    They both get you there, but Kidd gets you there in record setting time.
    Jason Kidd is a great defender, great rebounder, and his physical gifts make Mark Jackson look like a schoolboy.
    Sure, they are both intelligent and great passers, but that’s where things end. Sorry.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    JtTaylor
    I think Gary Payton is one of the most underrated. Tiny Archibald too, considering what he did after a major injury back in the dark ages of basketball. I think young folks don’t appreciate Walt Frazier that much either.
    Oh, and Sidney Montcrief, although he was more of a combo guard.
    That’s my list.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    How are we calling Kidd a “winner” and Payton not a “winner”?
    They both have been to the Finals. They both have been on teams that won a lot of games.
    Going head to head for most of their careers, Payton owned Kidd. Period. Kidd just stuck around at a higher level for longer, but in their primes, I’d rather have Payton.
    Plus, Payton made more improvements in his game, in my opinion and he was on a different plane defensively. But, I can see how folks like Kidd over Payton, I just don’t think it’s clearcut.
    Look at the numbers for who was making All-NBA first team when both of them were in their primes. It was a seesaw battle.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Payton>Kidd>Mark… wait til you guys see thursday’s FOTS

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Payton made All-Nba nine times.
    Kidd made it six.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ^Ben Osborne..
    give us a hint bro

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com Michael NZ

    Ben really does have an unhealthy obsession.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    mark jackson really had no hops, and questionable quicks. It’s amazing watching those highlights.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    was a little too young to really appreciate those knicks, but i enjoyed the pacers while mark was there. his post game is pretty damn good for a point

  • hammer

    Rod strickland > mark jackson

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    Dude had talent and was fun to watch. Not in my top 10 pgs but he’s up there. On a different note, always helpful to be reminded that if you’re sound is turned up on your computer that the video may not be safe for work. An F-bomb here or N-bomb there can go somewhat unoticed in some songs, but not this one.

  • hammer

    Shout out 2 tom chambers and how he used mark as a stepladder. Top 10 in game dunks of all time!

  • The Philosopher

    His favorite player was Earvin.
    Can we tell?

  • JTaylor21

    @Hammer Rod Freaking Strickland better than MJackson, SHAMWOOOOOOW. Someone has being hanging out with the mountain people for too long.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    MOMMA THERE GOES THAT MAN!!! SMH

  • S_kemp

    that pacers team was one of my all time favourites….anyone know if he ever dunked in a game?

  • hammer

    Oh no diggity no doubt. Rod was a better penetrator,had a better offensive game,while still being able 2 finish n the top 6 players n assists for 7 consecutive yrs. A much much better finisher @ the rim mos def. Rod had this knack 2 get a shot off and get the and1 when it didn’t seem like he’d b able 2. If only he had been able 2 humble himself a bit and not b a malcontent throughout his career

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    THE MAGICIAN! “Get more stunts than my Action Jackson.”

  • tomtom

    i was going to comment on the article but instead can i just say its been cool to read allenp’s and others genuine intelligent debates. So often on here if u disagree with something its just a license to start verbal sparring. good stuff man.

  • hammer

    Jus a lil off topic but nba channel is now airing gm 5 of 04 finals. I 4got just how bad they made the lakers look n that game and the finals overall. Ouch! And speaking of mark,nba channel will b airing gm 4 of the 95 playoffs between magic and pacers 2 nite @ 9

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Mark Jackson is one of the greatest passers ever, I am glad that FOTS gave him some love. BOOK IT!!

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out @BostonBaller.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign The Seed.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ***”Got more stunts than my man Action Jackson.”

  • snasty10

    i went to a stones game one time when he was on the raptors, and i was sitting real close to the court, and some kids around the age of 22-25 were talking trash to him during a free throw, and he just turns around and goes “Aint it past your betime!” had the whole first ten rows hysterically laughing. sick passer to

  • RIGGS

    my man was half dominican, didnt even know that until i met his mother a long time ago

  • RIGGS

    i mean is*

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Derek Harper is also quite underrated.

  • Stan

    My judgement is tainted here as Jackson was my favorite PG.

    Was he the best PG? no. But no PG got more out of limited physical tools. And he is in my mind one of the top 10 at the position.

    Lets start with the negatives:

    Slow, bad hops, so so shot, bad man to man defender were all terms people used to describe his shortcomings. Yeah he was slow, and yeah his jumping was nothing to write home about. But he took his so so shot down the stretch when no one else wanted to shoot and he came through more than he didn’t (and 45 fg% and 33 3ptfg% isn’t all that bad). Also while he often got burned man to man against faster PGs he played smart team d (he is 20 all time in steals) and rebounded well for his position (17 career triple doubles)

    the positives:
    The man could flat out pass the rock. To him it wasn’t about getting the ball to the player… it was about getting the ball to the player so he could do the most damage. He knew if his teammate wanted the ball up high or down low, where he wanted to catch it, and how to lead him towards the basket. He was a showman and a leader. He had swagger and confidence (though this also was a weakness of his as shown by his comment about the Knicks acquiring Mo Cheeks and being asked if he could learn from the veteren Cheeks he answered we can learn from each other.)

    Like I said though, There aren’t many people who did more with limited physical tools than Jackson.

  • Carlos

    Gotta give respect, this guy was intelligent as they come. I grew up a Bulls fan (Jordan-Pippen era) and would get absolutely frustrated and confused as to how this chubby guy (come on, he looked portly in Indiana) was killing it on fast breaks. He never fkcd up a fast break. Never. Every time they had a fast break, and he had the ball, it was an automatic basket or 2 free throws. I loved him and Reggie killing the Knicks, though. His post moves on smaller guards was annoying but effective, kind of like a smaller version of Barkley and not as fast as Payton, but damn was it effective.

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