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Monday, November 21st, 2011 at 9:45 am  |  72 responses

Video: Rajon Rondo Tosses Alley-Oop With His Forehead

The Celtics guard gets creative.

Rajon Rondo has used the offseason/lockout an opportunity to work on throwing the most ridiculous of alley-oops. His latest offering comes via a charity game Rondo hosted at Harvard over the weekend.

(H/T: WEEI)

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  • NJ4Life

    Glad to see Rondo’s working on that jumper of his…

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    lol CRAZY

  • http://nba.com GP23

    Get a jumper!!

  • Riggs

    f**king haters man…

  • http://slamonline.com AlbertBarr

    Fun.

  • AD

    why would they show him working on a jumpshot when they can show us this…… im sure he’d doing that behind the scenes.

  • T-Money

    this is crazy hate. that play was sick!

  • slamfan4life

    yyyessss

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Who cares about a jumpshot when you can pass like that?

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    EH

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance21

    Can’t yall just enjoy the highlight? Yall acting like it said “Rajon Rondo workout video” and it showed him passing off his head. It was a charity game!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t think that pass really is something that needs to be practiced. I’m sure his Jumper gets plenty of work. But what kind of work, only time will tell.

  • nbaNw8

    Did he just do that????? That was sick

  • http://www.nba.com VanCityBBall

    stop hating on RR jumper… if u were surrounded by scorer’s like RAYRAY, Paul P, and KG rajon is the perfect PG for the team due to his PASSING ABILITY… cuz u know the lost art of a true point gaurd

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    No the perfect PG for Boston would be Steve Nash on offense, and Rajon Rondo on Defense. That would be “perfect” – Basically, Rondo been in the league 6 years, his jumper should be getting better. Actually it should already be better, it should be getting way better.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Done with so.much.FLAIR! Another insane one by Rondoooooooo.
    Ronaldo wishes his headers were that spectacular.

  • Heals

    You guys are right, where is the hour long vid of him taking J’s in the gym. Can’t wait til SLAM posts that clip. So most of the other pg’s should be able to pass as well as Rajon, but can’t now and never will be able to. Save your complaints for the numerous shoot-first pg’s who can’t set-up a teammate properly for the life of them. But what do I know you guys are the experts. Just cause there isn’t a youtube clip of it doesn’t mean he isn’t practicing. Try going to game before tip-off and you’ll see dude out there shooting with Armon(d?) Hill like always. Furthermore it’s laughable how many of you think it is easy to change your shot mechanics over some summers. Lastly thanks to those of you for showing your true colors (purple and gold for some) by going out of your way to slight RR on post like this. (Credibility exits stage left). Nonetheless enjoy being annoyed by an off-the-forehead alley-oops, it sounds like a fun way to go about living life…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    It is easy to change your shot mechanics in a couple of summers. You just have to put in hours. And work productively (the correct drills, fixing bad habits consistently, which obviously isn’t happening, his shot has not improved AT ALL since his rookie year).

  • Heals

    AT ALL – you’re already being hyperbolic, we both know that’s false. His elbow is less chicken-winged now, his arc is improved, his FT shooting is much more consistent, his willingness to take the FT line area J is higher and his range (albeit the percentage is less than ideal) is greater. You “just” have to put in hours. It can take years to change muscle memory so that when the body is stressed it doesn’t resort to older mechanics. Even is it was easy to fix a J in a couple summers the player still has to be able to translate that release into shots at varying distances and angles, off-the-dribble or stationary, open or covered, with and without contact. You’re greatly underestimating his ability to shoot by comparing him to other players in the league, but how well do those players do the things that RR excels at? It’s too easy to focus on what players don’t do well, than it is appreciate their uniqueness and respect that despite the skills they may lack they still flourish in the NBA. Look at LBJ, he still struggles with keeping his feet too close together before elevating and leaning back (rather than going straight-up) before release. Do I think he should be better, mos def, but it’s funny how he is just good enough to be criticized for not being good enough. If RR couldn’t pass as well nobody would care about his shooting. It’s only because his defense, knack for finding the ball, ability to rebound, athleticism and passing acumen are so dynamic that people imagine how “great” he’d be if the J was more consistent…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Uhh, his shot looks better. That’s what your trying to say? Cuz his shot hasn’t actually improved. At All. And I’m not comparing him to other players in the league, I’m comparing him to himself.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    His J is horrible. If he wasn’t so good at all the things you named, he wouldn’t get off the bench. If he would even be in the NBA.

  • shutupallenp

    @nbk wow hate much, easy to change your shot mechanics? what are you talking about? have you ever shot a basketball? I personally dont like rr but horrible? and steve nash would be the perfect pg for any team if he didnt have to play d

  • Heals

    I’m not arguing it’s good or he doesn’t need to improve, but your criticism is over-the-top. You say he hasn’t improved since his rookie year and I vehemently disagree based on the things I brought up. “If he wasn’t so good at ALL the things you named,” but he is so that’s pointless. I’ve seen him in-person several times, had league pass since his rookie year, caught some of him at UK, know about him working on FT’s with Mark Price in the offseasons, working with AHill everyday, observed how his shots used to miss and how they miss now; since you haven’t you can get away with making uninfomed blanket comments like you are. If you have, then I don’t know what to tell ya other than your eyes are lying. It’s all good though this back-and-forth is what SLAM should be about, rather than the lockout research report we’ve been doin lately…

  • Heals

    shutup, this is getting scary that’s 2 in row now we’re clicking on. For many their J is something that requires endless work and even then there is no guarantee of a light at the end of the tunnel…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I haven’t? other than the fact that I’ve only seen Rondo in person three times (but once during his rookie year, didn’t tell me much), I have watched his whole (televised) career. You can practice your shooting, free throws, whatever, all you want, that doesn’t mean your making a concentrated effort to actually change your shot. Him working with Mark Price tells me almost nothing other than he is working on shooting. He might not be changing a thing. And based on last season, quote, “This past season, Rondo shot an abominable 31 percent from between 10 and 15 feet from the rim. It was by far the lowest percentage of his career from that range, way down from the more than respectable 47 percent he shot from that distance in 2009-2010″ (bleacherreport), he has only gotten worse. I have worked with many people on their jumpers. And have completely changed aspects of each and every one of their releases, in 1 summer. The difference between them and NBA players, they aren’t NBA players, who don’t get paid to do what they do, and don’t have some “i know everything” concept like a lot of the pros do.

  • paul

    I’m pretty sure Rajon is working on his shooting. If he’s not, he really is an idiot.

  • Heals

    31%, open or covered? Off-the-dribble or after receiving a pass? Stationary or moving? How many at the end of the shot clock? Stats give some of the story, but not all of it. You’re trying to change the argument to whether or not he is a good shooter to avoid addressing your AT ALL comment earlier. “he has only gotten worse,” so he will shoot lower than 31% (10-15ft) next year, and lower than that the year after cause he’s getting worse right? 47% in 09-10′ seems pretty damn adequate to me and 31% seemed right since last year was a down year for him. After coming out the gates on fire he battled injuries, teammate continuity and the burden of carrying a greater offensive load(something he struggled with at times) for the team. Stats can’t relay that he, his teammates and his coaches all have much more confidence in him taking a 3 (but wait that would mean he improved) or mid-range J when counts much more so now than in previous years. Other than assists all his stats were down last year; the previous 3 seasons a more representative of his ability. The stats from those seasons show an obvious improvment from his rookie year and even last year (his worst of the last 4) is better than his rookie year, but my eyes already told me that…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    At All. His f*ckin free throw % has gotten worse, infact last season was his career low. Literally everything about Rondo’s ability to shoot has regressed over the last season. And he was already one of the worst shooting starters in the NBA. His shot has not improved AT ALL since his rookie year. Changing your Shooting Form (even though it is just barely) is not Improving Your Jumper. They are not co-dependent.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I have been working with people on their shooting since I was in High School, it is the one skill that I know more than anything else in this world. Shooting is an individual skill. What’s happening with his teammates and coaches and injuries and offensive load don’t have anything to do with his porous shooting ability. He is a horrible shooter because he is a horrible shooter. And he hasn’t improved on it in his career. Maybe he has worked on it, well actually he has definitely worked on it, but obviously not in a constructive/positive way.

  • Heals

    So if 31% to means he’s awful now, then 47% means he was good then. Can’t have it both ways bk…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    He went from awful. To absolutely terrible.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Sorry I wasn’t more specific

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    That was dope!

  • Heals

    So a good shooter hits 80%+ on 10-15ft J’s to you? Those are high in-game standards…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    No Rondo is a horrible shooter regardless of what a good % shooter puts up. (plus you have to be retarded to compare the quality of shots Rondo gets to the average player. rondo is invited to shoot on every single possession.) Showing you the 31% was to prove he hasn’t improved. Don’t get hung up on the %, he’s a terrible shooter. Plain and simple

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Wait, someones arguing Rajon isn’t that bad of a shooter?… WTH. NBA, start again before our brains crumble in out heads please.

  • Heals

    You brought up the %’s, not me. He has improved “AT ALL” since his rookie year whether you use stats or eyes. You’re using last year (his worst) as your baseline for his ability, I’m using the 3 previous years which are far more similar to each other. What do you think is a more representative sample size? I also started this by saying that railing on his shooting ability in a comment section for an alley-oop highlight from a charity game he hosted is childishly weak. Look at your comment “I don’t think that pass really is something that needs to be practiced,” like he’s in the gym bouncing the ball on his forehead instead of putting up J’s. Lastly and most importantly even if he shoots as bad as he did last year for the rest of his career (which he won’t since it was an aberration, he’ll more than likely progress back to his mean level – the previous 3 years) Rajon will be a starting pg for the next decade…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    You can’t read can you? I was responding to the ignorant people that said he needed to work on his jumper, by saying “nbk Posted: Nov.21 at 1:02 pm
    I don’t think that pass really is something that needs to be practiced. I’m sure his Jumper gets plenty of work. But what kind of work, only time will tell.”. Which is in line with everything else I have been saying. (and what Rondo did most recently for however many games, is just as representative of his current shooting ability)

  • http://knicks.com Gametimeweezy

    sweet pass gotta love it!

  • Heals

    Word, my bad misinterpreting that, but regardless you’re the one who locked yourself into a POV even you can’t manipulate stats to agree with. When you use absolutes like hasn’t improved at all, there is no wiggle room for your argument and in this case it’s blatantly false. Samething with 47% from 10-15ft is an awful shooter, you’re stuck in an argument you can’t even lie to prove…

  • Heals

    Courtesy of probasketballtalk – “The mid-range game is becoming a bit of a lost art in the NBA, and for good reason: according to Hoopdata.com, NBA players make 64% of their shots at the rim and 36.2% of their threes (which translates to an eFG% of 54.3%), but only make 38.4% of their shots from 10-15 feet and 39.7% of their shots from 16-23 feet.” Dirk tied for the league lead at 53% from 10-15ft, and “Dirk is having a historically great year from mid-range,” so I guess historically great is awful in bk’s book. Got Heeeeeeeeem!!!

  • blakos

    Total shots taken has to figure somewhere in this debate….

  • http://knicks.com Gametimeweezy

    First off Rondo has a weird form on his jumper Ray Allen gotta help him fix that thing or something, where it starts… second he doesnt have a shooters mentality whatsoever. That hurts his game when teams don’t even bother guarding him 18ft and out. But he is also very efficient when he DOES look to score. So it’s probably never going to be a true threat but he’s still an all-star anyways so whats the beef?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Ok how many shots did he take from 10-15 feet in his previous season if you’re so hung on the %. Once again I was just using the quote to prove to you his shot hasn’t improved. And you started going off about all the extra details. When really he was getting the same shots he’s been getting his whole career, and he didn’t get any better. That’s is my argument. The % is proof. I don’t know how to make it more obvious tooyou that his shot is garbage, and if it has “gotten better” it is only in how it looks (not feels) and probably how he shoots in practice. Regardless, his in game shooting has not become any better.

  • Heals

    ^^^^^^Exactlty what’s the beef? They’re on some let’s take the worst part of his game and pick it apart shht to me. Totally blakos, but it depends on how one wants to argue it. I’d say it’s easier to shoot a higher % when you take more shots beacause of rhythm, repitition and mentally knowing you’re taking the shot before you take it. Whereas it’d be harder with fewer shots because of a lack of those things (making Rajon’s % look a little less pedestrian), but in this case nbk would probably argue the opposite…

  • http://www.facebook.com/#!/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Lol, Rondo’s so bad of a shooter he sometimes airballs shots from the top of the key. I know I’m not that good of a shooter by any stretch of MY OWN imagination, but I can at least hit the rim from the top of the key.

  • Heals

    You didn’t prove it though, I used your own % stat against you and of course who would want to get caught up in something like extra details. There’s no way extra details ever helped someone make an argument before. If the % is proof then what about those %’s from probballtalk?What are they proof of? Earlier you told me not to get hung up on the %, now the % is proof? Proof of what? Proof he had an off year, okay then you win…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    95% of all of Rondo’s shots from 10-15 feet are wide open. If external things affect his shot 16% you got bigger things to worry about.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    But 47% of wide open 10 footers is a bad % anyway.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    You didn’t use my own stat against me in any plae but your own head. He was really extra sooper terrible last season. He hurt his elbow (which also made shooting more uncomfortable for him) there is no reason on earth for anyone to consider Rondo even an adequate shooter. At this point he is Eric Snow has a scoring threat from outside 8 feet. Until he PROVES otherwise. And how teams guard him is more PROOF, that I am not the only one who feels that way.

  • Heals

    Once again committing yourself to stat you know is wrong and can’t be proved. 95% ehhh, how long it take you to crunch all that game tape today? And now it’s just 10 footers okay? Why do you insist on making asinine overexaggerations? We both know you could’ve gone with 60% (still higher than it actually is) to make a real solid argument, but you couldn’t help yourself and went with the hyperbole. You can’t do that with me and expect to be taken seriously. That’s why this is fun to me. You’ve locked yourself into 3 arguments (“at all,” 47% from 10-15ft is awful and 95% of RR’s 10fter’s are wide open) you can’t validate so instead of readdressing your points or concede that you’re being over-the-top you dig deeper. Worried, naw not in the slightest. He’s adequate enough to snag a starting pg spot, adequate to make it to 2 Finals, adequate enough to crack SLAM’s top20 and adequate enough to make the all-star team (totally subjective, but 2 can play that game)…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    The stat was he shot 31% from 10-15 feet last season. I said its irrelevant anyway, because a wide open 47% from 10 feet is bad anyway. One thing that is true about Rondo is that about a quarter (don’t remember exactly) of his shots are within the last 4 seconds of the shot clock. If you want to double check what I’m saying you can google it and sift through article after article (I don’t know exactly who where when, all important I know, I read these Statistics) or you can get a synergy sports account and watch every jumper Rondo has taken over the last 4 years and let me know why you see. Or you can Go back and watch this last season + playoffs, where Rondo was scared to shoot to the point where he actively tried to avoid going to the free throw line. Arguing for Rondo’s ability to shoot is asinine. He hasn’t gotten markibly better, and until that happens I’m not going to defend him because I perceive that he is putting the proper work in.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Your arguing with me like I have something against Rondo. His jumper is terrible, and hasn’t gotten ANY better. Your opinion doesn’t prove that otherwise. I know why, how good Rondo is, I am just not stupid enough to think he is a good shooter. That’s it. You can focus on if my facts are 100% accurate all you want. Prove me wrong about those, doesn’t change my point. Rondo can’t shoot, and hasn’t gotten better. Goodnight.

  • http://knicks.com Gametimeweezy

    People act like he hasn’t been AVOIDING shots his whole career… thats nothing new. DIME DROPPER!

  • Heals

    Never said he was good that’s why you couldn’t quote me on that, I’m simply arguing he’s better than you made him out to be. “Your arguing with me like I have something against Rondo,” naw I’m arguing with you cause you use over-the-top statements to make your points. Arguing that way doesn’t hold weight it’s immature. You can’t get away with that BS when writing in legitimate settings. On comment sections like this it doesn’t matter you can away it, but in any other format you’d be taken to task for compiling an argument in such a frivolous manner. Take everything I’ve typed and everything you’ve typed; neither of us is entirely right, but my opinions are far closer to reality than yours. Already told what you what I see. I know his J improved since his rookie year, I know 95% of his 10-15fters aren’t wide open and I know 47% from 10-15ft isn’t awful so now what? 25% of his shots coming with less than 4 on the clock would help someone trying to defend his low shooting percentage by the way…

  • Heals

    Just admit it nbk you were at a nightclub called Brian’s Ivy Hall in downtown Lowell Friday night and whiffed inside of 3ft…

  • http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/10/31/how-top-point-guards-in-the-pick-and-roll-are-defended-and-why/#more-16776 nbk

    His jumper hasn’t improved. His set shot hasn’t improved. How teams guard him. The fact that he is hesitant to shoot. His career low 31% from 10-15 feet. His Career Low Free Throw %. Are All Proof that his shooting is just as inefficient and productive as it has been his whole career. All improvements other than that are purely aesthetic. And guess what, I don’t give a sh*t if my arguments are over the top, like you said, it is a comment section. I am giving you accurate to (unproven) semi-accurate information from my cell phone. Lol I could give a sh*t if some of what I say is not on the money, you haven’t added anything but conjecture. Focusing on stats out of context, like pointing out 47% isn’t that bad, when we all know he can’t and won’t (for good reason) shoot anything but a wide open jumpers or a shots against the clock, which is also usually wide open. Most defenses focus on keeping him out of the lane and playing the pass. Literally giving him uncontested shots. There are a few that try and get into him. Click my name you can read an article about how teams guard him in the pick and roll, from like a week ago. Talks about how he is invited to shoot and refuses. If his jumper were improving, the bestrhig he could do for his team is make the defense respect him. And he hasn’t done that, he’s gotten factually worse. At all aspects of shooting but shots from 17-22 feet. Where he shot the least amount of shots, and a career high % from that distance. (I don’t have a source for that last fact, which you can use to support your argument if you want it does work, minus the attempts thing, and you can look It up if you want to get it exactly right) he shot career lows to the worst % since his rookie year. What real reason other than the (fifty so ergot attempts from 17-22 feet) do you have to think his shot has actually improved, rather than not, if not regressed?.

  • Heals

    Exactly they were career lows! Which is why I’ve been saying it was an aberration this entire back-and-forth! http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Rajon%20Rondo
    Other than 3-9 (5.5% lower) and 10-15 (10% lower) footer last year everyone of his shooting %’s for the various ranges is higher. If 95% of his shots were wide open last year than why is his % of shots assisted on dropping. It’s because you’re wrong. If he were wide open as much as you claim then a greater % of his shots would be assisted on since he would be receiving the pass from a player that was more covered than RR is. If you could (it’s couldn’t by the way) give a shht about your accuracy why do you keep trying to defend it? “His jumper hasn’t improved. His set shot hasn’t improved,” my link tells a whole different story? What about your wide open claim now? Check the %’s of shots he is assisted on from 10-23ft (80% of the dribble 10-15ft, 70% for 16-23). Keep it coming, but I hope your corner has the white towel ready…

  • shutupallenp

    is it me or does someone leaving you wide open begging you to shoot actually make it harder to shoot? it takes away the flow and makes you think about it more, with defense using that tactic his number of shots is going to go up while overall % drops. and people saying its is elbow poking out or he should change his shot is crazy, he should perfect how he shoots but concentrate on his footwork into the shot, and maybe see a sports psychologist to deal with blocking the pressure out. and lets say the leader of the free world calling you out cant help with the confidence of shooting either. but to say hes horrible is an extreme exaggeration. and maybe ray allen should learn how to pass from rondo (instead of jumping every time he passes) or maybe rondo working with 3 future hof should continue playing his role and give the ball up and play solid D

  • http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/10/31/how-top-point-guards-in-the-pick-and-roll-are-defended-and-why/#more-16776 nbk

    It’s different for everyone whether or not they can shoot better open or not. I prefer to be open, just rely on habitual motion. Or natural rhythm, whatever you call it. And horrible to me, is a jumper that garners zero respect from defenses. And Rondo’s fits that description.

  • shutupallenp

    The reason they back off him is because they dont wanna get left where they are and todays zone defenses allow this. and if thats your so called “strength” than of course your gonna over criticize that aspect of his game, but I think your coming from a bias place, his skill set is so over developed in some areas that having an average jumper works for him, as for teams backing off of him i think thats partly doc rivers fault, more pick and rolls and more movement would allow him to step in to his jumper with rhythm, and thats where improving his footwork would be a great asset. i still think horrible is the wrong word to describe it, especially because i bet on his worst day he shoots better than all if not the greater majority of those who post on slam

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  • http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/10/31/how-top-point-guards-in-the-pick-and-roll-are-defended-and-why/#more-16776 nbk

    Read the article under my name on my last comment. Watch the videos. Rondo doesn’t have an “average” jumper, if he did, he would use it.

  • http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/10/31/how-top-point-guards-in-the-pick-and-roll-are-defended-and-why/#more-16776 nbk

    Rondo doesn’t shoot that good, your crazy. In my men’s league right now, with Rondo’s 3pt % (can’t compare field goal % cuz it’s a men’s league, lots of layups) he wouldn’t be in the top 50. Every single guard that I played with in high school shoots better than Rondo (holler at the makers of “the gun”). I guarantee the posters at slam who have been hooping as perimeter players their whole lives can all shoot better than Rondo as well.

  • http://www.celtics247.com/2011/05/where-is-rondos-jump-shot/ nbk

    Heals, being wide open doesn’t have anything to do with receiving a Pass. Rondo has the ball from the start of almost every possession until a shot is attempted. It’s why he gets so many assists. He isn’t guarded from the jump, he can literally dribble up, 15 feet from the basket and shoot an uncontested shot on every. single. possession. The reason he doesn’t, is because his shot is terrible. And 68 games is not a aberration that is f*cking absurd. I don’t know how you can argue someone’s shot is improving after they shoot a career worst free throw %. Click my name, read an article from Celtics247 on how Rondo has no jumpshot, and shows no signs of developing one. — And all I have done is provide you with proof that Rondo can’t shoot. You have only provided your opinion. Which means nothing.

  • Heals

    bk the ref stopped this shht hours ago, it’s over la. “You have only provided your opinion. Which means nothing,” you swear like everything I’ve typed isn’t sitting right above this for everyone to see. I’d love it for my opinions to be displayed at probballtalk and hoopdata, but unfortunately I can’t take credit for the research it took to compile those shot range %’s…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    All that that hoopdata shows is that Rondo is a terrible shooter, and always has been. It also clearly shows he hasn’t improved. His % have fluctuated, but he has never shown a real improvement. He improves, then regresses. Improves then Regresses. His 2nd season is his best overall shooting season. His first and most recent are his worst. Giving undeniable proof that he hasn’t improved.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    It shows that Rondo makes 1.8 shots for every 5.5 attempts outside 3 feet. Which is absolutely terrible.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    32.7% if you can’t put that in perspective.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Or 8.8 makes out of every 21 shot attempts outside 3 feet for his career. Or 41% – Which also is absolutely terrible.

  • http://knicks.com Gametimeweezy

    his shooting isn’t getting better but he’s still making all-star teams… maybe somebody should let them know how terrible he really is

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    he’s great. really great. He would be the best PG in the NBA if he could shoot.

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