Monday, November 21st, 2011 at 9:45 am  |  72 responses

Video: Rajon Rondo Tosses Alley-Oop With His Forehead

The Celtics guard gets creative.

Rajon Rondo has used the offseason/lockout an opportunity to work on throwing the most ridiculous of alley-oops. His latest offering comes via a charity game Rondo hosted at Harvard over the weekend.

(H/T: WEEI)

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  • Heals

    Once again committing yourself to stat you know is wrong and can’t be proved. 95% ehhh, how long it take you to crunch all that game tape today? And now it’s just 10 footers okay? Why do you insist on making asinine overexaggerations? We both know you could’ve gone with 60% (still higher than it actually is) to make a real solid argument, but you couldn’t help yourself and went with the hyperbole. You can’t do that with me and expect to be taken seriously. That’s why this is fun to me. You’ve locked yourself into 3 arguments (“at all,” 47% from 10-15ft is awful and 95% of RR’s 10fter’s are wide open) you can’t validate so instead of readdressing your points or concede that you’re being over-the-top you dig deeper. Worried, naw not in the slightest. He’s adequate enough to snag a starting pg spot, adequate to make it to 2 Finals, adequate enough to crack SLAM’s top20 and adequate enough to make the all-star team (totally subjective, but 2 can play that game)…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    The stat was he shot 31% from 10-15 feet last season. I said its irrelevant anyway, because a wide open 47% from 10 feet is bad anyway. One thing that is true about Rondo is that about a quarter (don’t remember exactly) of his shots are within the last 4 seconds of the shot clock. If you want to double check what I’m saying you can google it and sift through article after article (I don’t know exactly who where when, all important I know, I read these Statistics) or you can get a synergy sports account and watch every jumper Rondo has taken over the last 4 years and let me know why you see. Or you can Go back and watch this last season + playoffs, where Rondo was scared to shoot to the point where he actively tried to avoid going to the free throw line. Arguing for Rondo’s ability to shoot is asinine. He hasn’t gotten markibly better, and until that happens I’m not going to defend him because I perceive that he is putting the proper work in.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Your arguing with me like I have something against Rondo. His jumper is terrible, and hasn’t gotten ANY better. Your opinion doesn’t prove that otherwise. I know why, how good Rondo is, I am just not stupid enough to think he is a good shooter. That’s it. You can focus on if my facts are 100% accurate all you want. Prove me wrong about those, doesn’t change my point. Rondo can’t shoot, and hasn’t gotten better. Goodnight.

  • http://knicks.com Gametimeweezy

    People act like he hasn’t been AVOIDING shots his whole career… thats nothing new. DIME DROPPER!

  • Heals

    Never said he was good that’s why you couldn’t quote me on that, I’m simply arguing he’s better than you made him out to be. “Your arguing with me like I have something against Rondo,” naw I’m arguing with you cause you use over-the-top statements to make your points. Arguing that way doesn’t hold weight it’s immature. You can’t get away with that BS when writing in legitimate settings. On comment sections like this it doesn’t matter you can away it, but in any other format you’d be taken to task for compiling an argument in such a frivolous manner. Take everything I’ve typed and everything you’ve typed; neither of us is entirely right, but my opinions are far closer to reality than yours. Already told what you what I see. I know his J improved since his rookie year, I know 95% of his 10-15fters aren’t wide open and I know 47% from 10-15ft isn’t awful so now what? 25% of his shots coming with less than 4 on the clock would help someone trying to defend his low shooting percentage by the way…

  • Heals

    Just admit it nbk you were at a nightclub called Brian’s Ivy Hall in downtown Lowell Friday night and whiffed inside of 3ft…

  • http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/10/31/how-top-point-guards-in-the-pick-and-roll-are-defended-and-why/#more-16776 nbk

    His jumper hasn’t improved. His set shot hasn’t improved. How teams guard him. The fact that he is hesitant to shoot. His career low 31% from 10-15 feet. His Career Low Free Throw %. Are All Proof that his shooting is just as inefficient and productive as it has been his whole career. All improvements other than that are purely aesthetic. And guess what, I don’t give a sh*t if my arguments are over the top, like you said, it is a comment section. I am giving you accurate to (unproven) semi-accurate information from my cell phone. Lol I could give a sh*t if some of what I say is not on the money, you haven’t added anything but conjecture. Focusing on stats out of context, like pointing out 47% isn’t that bad, when we all know he can’t and won’t (for good reason) shoot anything but a wide open jumpers or a shots against the clock, which is also usually wide open. Most defenses focus on keeping him out of the lane and playing the pass. Literally giving him uncontested shots. There are a few that try and get into him. Click my name you can read an article about how teams guard him in the pick and roll, from like a week ago. Talks about how he is invited to shoot and refuses. If his jumper were improving, the bestrhig he could do for his team is make the defense respect him. And he hasn’t done that, he’s gotten factually worse. At all aspects of shooting but shots from 17-22 feet. Where he shot the least amount of shots, and a career high % from that distance. (I don’t have a source for that last fact, which you can use to support your argument if you want it does work, minus the attempts thing, and you can look It up if you want to get it exactly right) he shot career lows to the worst % since his rookie year. What real reason other than the (fifty so ergot attempts from 17-22 feet) do you have to think his shot has actually improved, rather than not, if not regressed?.

  • Heals

    Exactly they were career lows! Which is why I’ve been saying it was an aberration this entire back-and-forth! http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Rajon%20Rondo
    Other than 3-9 (5.5% lower) and 10-15 (10% lower) footer last year everyone of his shooting %’s for the various ranges is higher. If 95% of his shots were wide open last year than why is his % of shots assisted on dropping. It’s because you’re wrong. If he were wide open as much as you claim then a greater % of his shots would be assisted on since he would be receiving the pass from a player that was more covered than RR is. If you could (it’s couldn’t by the way) give a shht about your accuracy why do you keep trying to defend it? “His jumper hasn’t improved. His set shot hasn’t improved,” my link tells a whole different story? What about your wide open claim now? Check the %’s of shots he is assisted on from 10-23ft (80% of the dribble 10-15ft, 70% for 16-23). Keep it coming, but I hope your corner has the white towel ready…

  • shutupallenp

    is it me or does someone leaving you wide open begging you to shoot actually make it harder to shoot? it takes away the flow and makes you think about it more, with defense using that tactic his number of shots is going to go up while overall % drops. and people saying its is elbow poking out or he should change his shot is crazy, he should perfect how he shoots but concentrate on his footwork into the shot, and maybe see a sports psychologist to deal with blocking the pressure out. and lets say the leader of the free world calling you out cant help with the confidence of shooting either. but to say hes horrible is an extreme exaggeration. and maybe ray allen should learn how to pass from rondo (instead of jumping every time he passes) or maybe rondo working with 3 future hof should continue playing his role and give the ball up and play solid D

  • http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/10/31/how-top-point-guards-in-the-pick-and-roll-are-defended-and-why/#more-16776 nbk

    It’s different for everyone whether or not they can shoot better open or not. I prefer to be open, just rely on habitual motion. Or natural rhythm, whatever you call it. And horrible to me, is a jumper that garners zero respect from defenses. And Rondo’s fits that description.

  • shutupallenp

    The reason they back off him is because they dont wanna get left where they are and todays zone defenses allow this. and if thats your so called “strength” than of course your gonna over criticize that aspect of his game, but I think your coming from a bias place, his skill set is so over developed in some areas that having an average jumper works for him, as for teams backing off of him i think thats partly doc rivers fault, more pick and rolls and more movement would allow him to step in to his jumper with rhythm, and thats where improving his footwork would be a great asset. i still think horrible is the wrong word to describe it, especially because i bet on his worst day he shoots better than all if not the greater majority of those who post on slam

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  • http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/10/31/how-top-point-guards-in-the-pick-and-roll-are-defended-and-why/#more-16776 nbk

    Read the article under my name on my last comment. Watch the videos. Rondo doesn’t have an “average” jumper, if he did, he would use it.

  • http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/10/31/how-top-point-guards-in-the-pick-and-roll-are-defended-and-why/#more-16776 nbk

    Rondo doesn’t shoot that good, your crazy. In my men’s league right now, with Rondo’s 3pt % (can’t compare field goal % cuz it’s a men’s league, lots of layups) he wouldn’t be in the top 50. Every single guard that I played with in high school shoots better than Rondo (holler at the makers of “the gun”). I guarantee the posters at slam who have been hooping as perimeter players their whole lives can all shoot better than Rondo as well.

  • http://www.celtics247.com/2011/05/where-is-rondos-jump-shot/ nbk

    Heals, being wide open doesn’t have anything to do with receiving a Pass. Rondo has the ball from the start of almost every possession until a shot is attempted. It’s why he gets so many assists. He isn’t guarded from the jump, he can literally dribble up, 15 feet from the basket and shoot an uncontested shot on every. single. possession. The reason he doesn’t, is because his shot is terrible. And 68 games is not a aberration that is f*cking absurd. I don’t know how you can argue someone’s shot is improving after they shoot a career worst free throw %. Click my name, read an article from Celtics247 on how Rondo has no jumpshot, and shows no signs of developing one. — And all I have done is provide you with proof that Rondo can’t shoot. You have only provided your opinion. Which means nothing.

  • Heals

    bk the ref stopped this shht hours ago, it’s over la. “You have only provided your opinion. Which means nothing,” you swear like everything I’ve typed isn’t sitting right above this for everyone to see. I’d love it for my opinions to be displayed at probballtalk and hoopdata, but unfortunately I can’t take credit for the research it took to compile those shot range %’s…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    All that that hoopdata shows is that Rondo is a terrible shooter, and always has been. It also clearly shows he hasn’t improved. His % have fluctuated, but he has never shown a real improvement. He improves, then regresses. Improves then Regresses. His 2nd season is his best overall shooting season. His first and most recent are his worst. Giving undeniable proof that he hasn’t improved.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    It shows that Rondo makes 1.8 shots for every 5.5 attempts outside 3 feet. Which is absolutely terrible.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    32.7% if you can’t put that in perspective.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Or 8.8 makes out of every 21 shot attempts outside 3 feet for his career. Or 41% – Which also is absolutely terrible.

  • http://knicks.com Gametimeweezy

    his shooting isn’t getting better but he’s still making all-star teams… maybe somebody should let them know how terrible he really is

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    he’s great. really great. He would be the best PG in the NBA if he could shoot.

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