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Monday, February 6th, 2012 at 8:10 pm  |  106 responses

Video: Kobe Bryant Passes Shaquille O’Neal for 5th All-Time in Scoring


Kobe Bryant torched the Philadelphia Sixers for 24 first half points tonight, which was just enough to pass former teammate/nemesis Shaq on the NBA’s All-Time scoring list. Bryant now has 28, 597 points in his storied career. Congrats, Bean!

(H/T: EOB)

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  • GTK

    Buck Shaq

  • http://nba.com ChiCityPoohdini

    Congrats Kobe, he came out hot from the first minutes of the game. It’s only a matter of time till he takes over the fourth spot at least.

  • Jeremy

    Kobe- “Yo Shaq, tell me how my A$$ tastes!”

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Reporter: What does this fifth title mean.
    Kobe: I have one more than Shaq!!! Your Welcome

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    kobe fans are a bitter bunch.

  • Jeremy

    Their are three other comments, none are bitter in any way.

  • Mtothes

    The Kobe system works!

  • http://www.andywhitby.com Andy Whitby

    Great work by the greatest player of our generation.

  • Conor O.

    Bynum needs to demand the ball from Bryant. The latter is the G.O.A.T., given his resumé & talent, but he has cost the Lakers far too many games this season, simply to propel his on-court vanity. He must stop, otherwise they will not win their conference, let alone the Finals.

  • Maniac

    Top 3 all-time…

  • Dungeon Family

    seems to me @Jtaylor21 you the one that’s bitter because yo lame ass Hate kobe but Stay worrying about his every move

    Like a Scorned ex Girlfriend

    You a secret admirer just keep it Trill

  • Dungeon Family

    Because I don’t think Your opinion of Kobe is gonna stop him from Being a First ballot HOF

    matter fact I KNOW it ain’t

    also when Pau gets the ball instead of Being Pau Gasol He turns into Pau Nowitski

  • ripslam

    People trying to tell me Kobe is better than Jordan, Russell, or Wilt? Nah.

  • Maniac

    @ripslam it’s debatable for Kobe > everyone except Jordan & Russell IMO

  • Red

    So he got the list but lost the game..ok lol. He better retire aftee this season cause he’s going downhill after this season.

  • Maniac

    Lol like he was supposed to go downhill this season? And the season before that? OK

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Not only are they bitter but also delusional.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    smh

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCbDnPDBff4 Caboose

    Kobe fans bother me. Respect the game but don’t rewrite what it is. When all is said and done, Kobe is inarguably top 10 all time. 2nd best SG. Top 5 all time scorer. But don’t you go saying he’s #2.

  • robb

    He did it in his hometown, that’s cool. He also made a nice Dr J. impersonation

  • Red

    Kobe is a legend and I like the guy. But nobody but Celtics fans were saying Kobe was done but this season has shown he’s at his end. I hope during the playoffs he goes out swinging like mad cause now it just seems he’s trying to just break a record or 2. He aint got it nomore.

  • Mario

    I see The usually “kobe haters” are out tonight

    hating only make his legacy better because all ya’ll said what he couldn’t do

  • http://www.t-mac.com/tmac/index unf*ckwitable

    Dont get the Kobe fans started, Its an argument you just cant win.

  • Maniac

    I won’t even go there LOL. I know my history. Believe me, it agrees with me more than most of you ;)

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    lol

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    oh lawd….

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Great for Kobe. The end.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/35159/roses-sweet-game-continues-bulls-roll nbk

    You guys are delusional idiots. Kobe is easily top 5 all time. You old timers are just so arrogant and biased towards the past.

  • Red

    NOBODY has said he isn’t top 5, LOL don’t you look like an arrogant, biased old timer. We’re simply saying he isn’t top 3 all-time. The mans great no doubts about it but his greatness ends here. Stop stanning lol.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    That’s not the real nbk and kobe’s not in the top-5 (not even close)

  • JP7

    jus wait til he retires, and they come out with dem dvds on his legacy like those jordan ones, and with the gladiator music and super slow mo and all that. watch em when ur faded or like on some m or sumn, then youll see, you might even cry. kobe is the best, jordan dont count as a human and im not even gonna explain that. kobe is the best human basketball player ever, and i shouldnt have to explain that.

  • ttc

    Kobe is second best, that’s obvious; like the guy above my comment said: just wait until he retires & you’ll see..

  • Rik Smits Mullet

    congrats to kobe.
    To jp7 and ttc
    i recently watched those early 2000 lakers championship videos with super slomo and uplifting commentary. And it looked a lot like shaq was accepting 3 finals mvps in super slomo. Kobe is a great great player but you guys dont forget shaq helped him a lot with 3 of his rings. Before you say greatest of alltime easly top 3 super slomo some of those early championship videos into your beta max device. And checkout the huge helping hand shaq provided to your hero .

  • jimmer

    Anyone think Kobe’s gonna go for this now? You know, taking Kareem’s spot? How far away is he? 8,000? 4 more seasons, maybe, at a decent level. A lot easier than winning more championships, he’s already got 5 of them, no 1. all time scorer is a virtually unatainable milestone. It must’ve crossed his mind. Must’ve.

  • JP7

    ur right shaq was amazing, so was phil jackson, robert horry, glen rice, derek fisher, rick fox, pau gasol, andrew bynum etc, nobody wins championships alone, not even mj (phil jackson, scottie pippen, horace grant, john paxon, steve kerr, rodman, toni kukoc, ron harper etc) ur right again too, kobe is my damn hero far as sports go lol i bin watchin him since he was a rookie and i was like 9 or 10, i looked up to him, hes a good reminder that hard work and determination leads to success, and never give up no matter what ppl say or how hard things get. best human player ever.

  • JP7

    i think hes more likely to ease off the scoring if the lakers can somehow get a good bench, coach, one more actual superstar, and push for another ring, but if not then he’ll definatley be the all time leading scorer. you know he wants it all tho, most points and more rings than jordan, he stay scheming jus like me and drake, drake sucks tho, hes messin up the game for lightskin dudes, playin into stereotypes with all that tender softness smdh

  • Justin G.

    Reading JP7 is worse than trying to read ebonics. Best human player ever? WTF is that? Kobe is probably not top 5 but it’s not a stretch to say top 7 or 8 maybe. Obviously 2nd best SG ever though. And Red, what are you talking about? How has he shown he’s at his end exactly? By leading the league in scoring? Still playing really good defense? Man, get this guy out of the league before he drops to 2nd or 3rd in scoring and really embarrasses himself and his legacy

  • Paul H

    I think Kobe, more than any player In the last 20 years, comes with so much baggage that It prevents a lot of fans from making an objective assessment of his place In the history of the game. I believe that once the fog lifts after his retirement, top 10 will be undisputed and top 5 widely believed.

  • JP7

    smashed brandy, dunk contest, rings, mvps, asg mvps, 1st team offence and defence, 81 points, 63 in three qs, 12 threes in a game, countless game winners clincher and tiers, comebacks, takeovers, feared, loved, respected and most of all hated, because they are 30 teams in the league, but he only plays for one.

  • Bravo

    Y’all know Kobe the man at age 32. He gon surpass mj pls believe

  • Red Star

    KOBE! You’re welcome!!!

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    Kobe is NOT top 5. Second @ sg yes; I’ll take a prime big man over him any day of the week.

  • JP7

    i’ll take a prime big man over him any day #no homo #thatswhatshesaid

  • marc

    why can’t yal just say congrats to kobe and leave it at that. Always trying throw shade. Ok he’s not top 5 but he’s still a great player and a future hall of famer.

  • JP7

    hey look at me, im gonna click on the link to a positive kobe article to say something negative. thats normal behaviour, im cool and smart.

  • jimmer

    nobodies really saying anything negative, he’s an awesome player, it’s just an all-time position discussion and ideas about building a basketball team. Most, if not all GM’s would pick a talented big over a talented guard. Remember Hakeen was drafted above Jordan, and even after the impact MJ made, wing players going above bigs remains a rarity. It’s just how building a basketball team works. But even with the wonder of hindsight, if you were to offer any GM today the chance of picking Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O’neal, Wilt Chamberlain, Hakeem Olajuwon or Kobe Bryant as your foundation stone, I’m not sure how much of a dead-cert choice Bryant would prove to be.

  • Maniac

    Jimmir, exactly how much of a “dead-cert choice” would Jordan or Magic be in that select group for that matter? What’s your point?

  • jimmer

    More of a dead cert than Kobe. The point is, with hindsight, even if you threw in guards, there are guys that would likely be picked before kobe as a foundation stone.

  • http://slamonline.com Sergio

    @JP7 – 8:46am
    one of the best comments I’ve seen here

  • Mario

    @Justin G ebonics?…….You must be white

    and of course The secret admirers of kobe aka Nbk and jTaylor can’t give kobe props because it means they have came ut the closet

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLAT9x0pjUc&feature=related nbk

    lol one of you Kobe lover’s had to use my information to try and support your crazy stance on his legacy. nice

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    HA! JP7′s right, that did sound funny. However, in my hood when no-homo came to it’s peak in popularity, many of us were forced to ask; While I’m thinking of perhaps a M.Malone/Olajuwan when ‘prime big man’ is stated… Why is another dude thinking of uhh.. something else? No offense… jus’ saying. co-sign jimmer @ 10:01.

  • Red

    Kobe fans are idiots lol, #2 overall. Their team is doing bad so they’re reassurance is making Kobe #2, pathetic.

  • ttc

    u guys r just a bunch of haters..yea Shaq was the best player on those Laker teams of the early 2000′s, but since then Kobe has been the better player..overall he had a better career even if he retired now..apart from MJ who is better than Kobe?! tell me who’s better?!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Wilt, Bill, KAJ (<— no logical argument that he is better then those 3)
    .
    Magic, Bird, Shaq (<— argument can be made, but I won't entertain it)
    .
    Oscar, Moses, Hakeem, Duncan, (<— my opinion, but I've heard compelling arguments as to otherwise)

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Co-Sign nbk, although I would entertain an argument for the middle group.

  • ttc

    ok : Wilt, Bill, KAJ —> how do we have no logical argument that he is better than all 3, but MJ is? Look, in my eyes Jordan was the best ever and I honestly don’t see anybody coming close to him other than Kobe..KB is as much a winner as Russell or KAJ; Wilt was dominant as f*ck, guess he could be ranked higher than Kobe..as for the others u mentioned, no way are they better than Kobe..

  • ttc

    truth is, best ever will always be subjective..i guess we’ll just hav to disagree..come to think of it, u could make a pretty strong case for all the players u just mentioned..no point arguin’; even MJ being the greatest could be debated…

  • ttc

    truth is, best ever will always be subjective..i guess we’ll just hav to disagree..come to think of it, u could make a pretty strong case for all the players u just mentioned..no point arguin’; even MJ being the greatest could be debated..

  • Red

    KAJ is better than Kobe..lol.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If you don’t know the difference between Jordan and Bryant then there is no reason for us to have this conversation. Jordan and Bryant are not even close. If you want to know how I feel about those two, you can google that too. I am not getting into something I’ve explained numerous times.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    I think they mean #2 all-time sg, Red; not #2 overall

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    “KB is as much a winner as Russell or KAJ” – Translation, “I have literally, NO CLUE, what I am saying”

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    “Jordan and Bryant are not even close” Which Jordan and Bryant do you/did you watch? LMAO. You must not watch because they are ridiculously similar players, with only a few things really separating MJ from KB. Don’t even want to argue with your illogical a$$ though. No one is as much of a winner as Bill btw.

  • ttc

    whatever man, just read my last comment; there’s no need to have this debate..many will say Kobe is the greatest, some will say Jordan, some will say KAJ..whatever..just for the record i meant to say Kobe’s winning mentality is very strong; aside from Jordan i dont know of a player that can beat in that categorie

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    There games are very similar. Their production, efficiency, ability to lead a team to wins, are not even close. Sorry I didn’t spell it out for you. little girl

  • ttc

    yea Bill Russell is up there too..my bad..let’s be real, if a player managed to win 8 titles in a row and 11 overall in this era, nobody could ever argue that he’s not the best ever..why don’t people see Russell that way?!

  • ttc

    @nbk, i think they’re pretty close in the departements u just mentioned

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    You also don’t know what your talking about.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Eh em… Hall monitor AllenP where are you??? nbk is being sexist and it’s very upsetting! He called me…. he called me….. *sniffle, sniffle* …. A GIRL!!!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    It has taken Kobe 21,969 shots to make 9,978. In 21,686 shots (pre-washington) Jordan made 10,962, That is ONE THOUSAND more makes in LESS attempts. HAHAHAHA, and they are “close” – how?

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    Kobe is the man… But Mike won a dpoy, and lead in steals in 88, 90 and 93. The Finals MVPs/Performances are a pretty significant difference too.

  • Mario

    Wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lebron

    did I hurt little nbk’s feelings?

    now respond like a MAN and not a boy

  • ttc

    ^^
    did Jordan enter the NBA as the youngest player ever? (i know the record has been broken since) u could argue it was his choice but Kobe was a lot more raw than MJ when he became a professional..he was a boy amongst men..if he had gone to college he would’ve dominated a lot earlier..

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    TTC, Kobe shot a grand total of 1,355 shots in his first 2 years. He has eclipsed that number every single year since 2006 It literally makes less then a 1% difference in his efficiency.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Mario, why don’t you practice what you preach?

  • ttc

    @nbk guess i’ll agree wit u on that one..i’ve watched MJ in his prime, and he never ceased to amaze me..but i hav to say Kobe is the closest to me..i may not know about all those statistics and sh*t, but watchin Kobe reminds me of Jordan..he’s not on his level, but like i said he’s damn close..another thing is his determination to be the best; his will to win..he truly reminds me of MJ when it comes to that..and just for the record i ain’t on Kobe’s dick or anything (my fave of all time is the Answer), but i’m just speakin my opinion..

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    his game reminds me of Jordan too. His demeanor, his competitive drive, everything is just like Jordan. But the reason is because he patterned his game after him. Not because he is his equal on the court, or even close. Bryant is (arguably, depending how you define Oscar) the 2nd best SG of all-time. A top 10 player (arguably). He has been absolutely great. But there is a difference between top 10, and the GOAT. A big, big difference.

  • Maniac

    Jordan/Russell
    Kobe
    Wilt
    Kareem
    Magic
    Bird
    Oscar
    West
    Shaq
    Duncan
    Doc

  • Red

    Ah yeah my bad Jay. And Kobe is under Kareem Maniac stop being dumb. Can you argue that Wilt is better than Kobe without factoring in that Wilt was from the old days or do you have to? I feel Wilt should be considered better.

  • Maniac

    There is no way in hell that anyone can make a CONSISTENT argument and rank Hakeem and Moses over Kobe. I still have Doc & Baylor over those guys, but they’re all under that group of super-ultra elite guys where they fight for position. Next. At this point, I still don’t see why people rank Shaq and Duncan over Kobe. Shaq himself has already said he’s passed him up (where did this idea that Shaq is amongst Magic & Bird come from?). Next. I can entertain arguments from the following non-bigs: Magic, Bird, & Oscar (no argument for Jerry West), but when Magic himself has repeately (even last night) said that Kobe is greater and Bird has said that Kobe is damn near Jordan’s equal, WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED??? I mean they were saying that Jordan was arguably the greatest in 92′. That’s 7 full seasons of basketball with not nearly the amount of accomplishments he would finally receive. What gives Jordan sooooooo much superiority over those guys in most people’s eyes, but Kobe the only slightest consideration when they truly are DAMN NEAR EQUAL. Jordan said it himself that Kobe and only Kobe is worthy of comparison. I have the upmost respect for Russell so I will neglect to rank Kobe over him, but Kobe surely is #3 on the all-time list if Jordan is #1 with Russell. There is NO CONSISTENT argument that anyone can make to not have him there while having Jordan at the top. Wilt & Kareem are right there and I won’t have a fit to see them at the top either because they are both arguably goats.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Red, trust me, if you are old enough to have actually seen basketball pre-1996, you do not want to be in this conversation.

  • http://www.apbr.org/oldtimrs.html Maniac

    @Red I have little problem with Kareem being #1 because he is arguably the GOAT. Just realize that I have written countless books and articles written from the 60s all the way up to most recently 2009 and watched plenty of footage to have a decently knowledgable opinion on who the greatest basketball players are. There are still some old-timers today who neglect to rank Kareem in the top 6 (perfect example is the 1999 Associated Press voting for the Basketball Player of the Century where Kareem finished 7th. Click my name to see the results). It’s just not that clear cut dry when it comes to these elite group of guys. Very very close, but Kobe is wayy up there whether some people like it or not. He has the credentials and more importantly, the skills, to back it up. I am saying this as a fan of basketball before I am a fan of Kobe.

  • Maniac

    Sorry I meant that I have read countless books

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    name the books you have read.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^LOL was going to say… haha. Good arguments Maniac. I honestly can’t make my mind up of where i’d place Kobe. I’d argue him as good as top 3 and would except someone putting him as low as 10. I’ll wait till KB retires before I put my final seal on his final placement.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And the “Associated Press” is – Marv Albert, Chick Hearn, Fuzzy Levane,
    Harvey Pollack, Bill Russell, & Lenny Wilkens.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Marv Albert being the youngest of that group, born, 1941.

  • Maniac

    I’ll just name the first 10 I pick off my bookshelf…. The Book of Basketball – Bill Simmons, Basketball and philosophy, Dr. Jack’s Leadership lessons learned from a lifetime of basketball, The modern encyclopedia of basketball (1979), A view from above (by wilt), when the game was our’s (by bird and magic), Wilt 1962, Red and me (by Russell), Second wind(by Russell), The big o (by Oscar), Playing for keeps (about Jordan), I’m in the middle of west’s new book. I have plenty of others, but I don’t feel obligated to prove my love for the game lol

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    When you say “Just realize that I have read countless books and articles written from the 60s all the way up to most recently 2009″ I just want some kind of proof that your telling the truth. Anyone can say they have read countless books. (I guess you telling me the titles isn’t “proof” but I take it as confirmation that your not at-least completely exaggerating) – So thank you for taking time to list a few.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And my argument as to why I personally have Moses and Hakeem over Bryant is consistent. To think any two peoples arguments about anything will be consistent would be asinine. All we can ask for as “students of the game” or whatever you want to be called is that people are consistent about their own opinion.

  • Maniac

    I respect that nbk. It’s not my goal in life to make everyone some kind of Kobe worshiper. I just know greatness when I see it and I’d like to believe that I have the knowledge, intelligence, and unbias to properly evaluate it. And trust me, I have read those books and many others. When I first told you guys that i’m a huge basketball junkie, I wasn’t lying. I have no need to lol.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I understand, but you have to realize, you came in here and told all of us, many people just like you, that you know more then us about the history of the game. You weren’t the first to do that, won’t be the last. So we (except a few who generally just like to take part in confrontational arguments which is kind of the norm for newer people) didn’t take to kindly to your initial attitude and the way you were delivering your opinion. Which is why you were met with such hostility. It’s all good though, you clearly know a lot about the game and have a useful (& youthful) perspective.

  • JP7

    1. Jordan
    2. Kobe
    3. I dunno cuz I never seen all the other candidates play (russel, jabar, wilt, like who else, mosses from the bible, im sure jesus was a better player guy), plus the game has evolved, plus Kobe gets the comments crackin lol it’s gettin real serious out here

  • Bill

    Kobe’s nutjugglers think Luke Walton was a better basketball player than Charles Barkley, Steve Nash, and Dirk Nowitzki. Why? He has more rings.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/35159/roses-sweet-game-continues-bulls-roll nbk

    @JP7 Couldn’t agree more!

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/35159/roses-sweet-game-continues-bulls-roll nbk

    Players are always put on more of a pedestal after they retire. The same will happen with Kobe after he retires. He’ll be right up there with Jordan. Haters just watch and see

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    That’s not me.

  • JP7

    Nutjugglers? Lmao not gonna lie that was pretty funny my dude

  • Red

    I’m 20 so idk much about Wilt & them but I have read up on’em. NBK I feel that you just say random stuff & hope people care. And I’ll take your word Maniac but I’ll still take KAJ over Kobe.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Red, someone else posted as me at 6:40 & 6:42. Other then that idk what you see as random.

  • Everynowhere

    2nd best shooting guard in history does not mean 2nd best player ever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    1-Michael Jordan
    2-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    3-Wilt Chamberlain
    4-Magic Johnson
    5-Hakeem Olajuwon
    6-Shaquille O’Neal
    7-Larry Bird
    8-Oscar Robertson
    9 & 10- It’s a battle between Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan to me.

  • Red

    Oh well my bad, and random=start arguments despite yourself. But my apologies nonetheless. Phantom Shaq over Kobe? Wow

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The majority of people have Shaq over Kobe.

  • http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-05-05/sports/1991125101_1_basketball-referees-professional-hockey-puck nbk

    sh*t even SLAM had him #4 ever.

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