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Monday, April 8th, 2013 at 2:40 pm  |  76 responses

Jeremy Lin Discusses the Racial Barriers He Faced Growing Up (VIDEO)

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60 Minutes profiled Jeremy Lin during Sunday night’s broadcast. And in addition to rehashing the well-worn tale of Linsanity, the segment looked into the racial stereotypes and barriers Lin faced as an Asian-American making his way through high school and college hoops.

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  • spit hot fiyah

    stern enjoyed making money, major surprise

  • bike

    Well, it probably has worked both ways for him. He may have been discriminated against early in his career but a significant amount of his popularity is probably due to him being Asian.

  • Redd

    Yea cause being an Asian American is a struggle & you see them face such hardships like racial discrimination & being shot at.

    Face it, yes you probably faced discrimination but you chose a path of fame in a sport that rarely sees Asian Americans yet is loved by Asian Americans. Yao was way bigger than Lin & we loved him, Lin is disliked a lot for a reason, but it isn’t because of his race by no means.

    Yao is one of my fav. players ever & I thought he was a real modest yet dominate player.

  • roscoe

    roscoe is a jLin fan bc of his skill & the way he took NY in a way that has not been seen for the Knicks in a long time.

    Goin big in NY is legit in my book… i don’t care what anybody has to say.

  • Bluee

    First, Asian Americans do face “hardships” that go beyond your narrow definition of “racial discrimination” and “being shot at”.

    Second, omit “probably” – Jeremy Lin has faced discrimination. A player of his calibre should have been given an opportunity sooner. If you watch the NBA summer league he more than held his own against John Wall.

    I think the most troubling thing about your comment that I inferred is that you’re suggesting that the “probable” discrimination faced by a an Asian American athlete is a trivial issue because Asians are not a prominent presence in the NBA to begin with (Or mainstream American media for that matter) – so it is expected.

    You attempt to qualify your ignorance by professing your admiration for Yao Ming and expect us to take it as proof that your dislike for Jeremy Lin is not racial. But what I am suggesting to you is that you’re not bothered by the fact that Jeremy Lin is Asian – but rather because he is Asian AMERICAN. You can accept Yao because he fits the stereotype of foreign, passive, “modest” international player.

    Your issue with Jeremy Lin is that you expect him to conform to the narrowly defined roles of what Asian American males are “supposed” to be in this country. Passive, quiet, nerdy, and INVISIBLE. You cannot tolerate the fact that a minority has managed to succeed in a sport dominated and largely excelled in by another minority group.

    Has Jeremy Lin been unduly praised and covered relative to what he has done on the court? Yes, I agree. If for example, if CJ Watson did what Lin did for the Knicks last year he would not be making $25 million and on the cover GQ and he would not have almost usurped CP3 of his all-star spot this year.

    I agree – Jeremy’s fame/ publicity – strictly from an objective basketball production/ achievement standpoint presents a problem of equality (that players are not being treated fairly).

    But given the “hardships” Asian Americans (especially males) go through to exceed in any avenue of mainstream media and to overcome stereotypes – than from an EQUITY standpoint, I must disagree and submit that Jeremy’s story deserves the attention it has received.

    I do not think you’re racist (and whether you yourself are a minority is irrelevent because minorities can racist) but I think you underestimate the structural factors Lin has had to overcome to get where he is, which makes it a truly remarkable story.

  • Redd

    Well responded, but alas I have to disagree with your assumptions.

    First off, you simply made a choice to decide I like Yao beause he’s foreign which is a very narrow-minded assumption to make seeing as how Yao by no means fits the stereotype when he’s in fact huge, speaks English exceptionally well, and is a famous meme. So as far as your assumption of the reasoning as to why Lin is not liked by me, you’re dead wrong.

    My 2nd favorite team is the Warriors, I remember watching him & seeing him absolutely suck, I wasn’t a fan but I love the Warriors & had no negative towards him until he came to the Knicks & he gained hype for simply being Asian. You can’t slam the race factor whilst he benefited from it.

    Anyways, Asian Americans face hardships? Like what? Because I’m a young man & I have never heard derogatory terms used towards Asians? I’ve been around a lot of Asians as well & honestly have never witnessed it but as far as getting fame? I’m sure it has happened. I said probably because again Asians for the most part don’t face racism like Latinos & Blacks however with fame I’m sure they would. I said that fame mixed with being Asian in a league that rarely sees Asians would likely cause racism.

    I really think you’re pulling things from thin air, it’s like when White people say that they face racism too or that racism is dead and that they don’t deserve to be judged based on what their forefathers do.

    Minority is ultimately(keyword) at present time, Muslims, Blacks, and Latinos.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    “had no negative towards him until he came to the Knicks & he gained hype for simply being Asian.”

    Lin (deservedly) gained hype for having 10 games where he came from the end of the bench to dropping 38 points on the LA Lakers on national TV, while also hitting clutch shots, game winners, etc.

    There has been no equivalent stretch in the NBA where a fringe player has come out of nowhere and done so well. Flip Murray had a couple of good games (if I remember correctly), Tony Delk dropped 50, Gaines had a game winner….but none of them produced at Lin’s level and led their teams to wins like he did during Linsanity. Jeremy Lin was LEADING the Knicks. He assumed control of that team and drove their wins.

    Him being Asian had less to do with his hype than him just coming out of nowhere and leading the Knicks (and his own numbers) on an improbable run. Him being Asian helped propel his story globally and resonate with more people, but he wasn’t hyped strictly for his race; it was his underdog story that captivated people.

    “it’s like when White people say that they face racism too”

    They do. Reverse discrimination is alive and well.

    “Minority is ultimately(keyword) at present time, Muslims, Blacks, and Latinos.”

    Huh? How can you reach the conclusion that Asians are not minorities, but blacks are? There is a greater population of blacks and latinos in the States than there are Asians.

  • chyea

    MSG was frickin ELECTRIC during those two weeks. Haven’t seen that type of energy in New York since they made it to the finals in 1999. And Dolan let him go cause of money reasons…I hope that’s a complete crock of s*it or Dolan really is a complete idiot.

  • http://twitter.com/apowellAdvocate Allen Powell II

    You sound stupid boss.
    All minorities, hell all people in general, have their own cross to bear. It’s not cool to be labeled the sexless, nerd, who is socially awkward and has a small penis. It’s not cool to be labeled a “grinder” by white folks and targeted for jobs that involve insane amounts of work but come with a glass ceiling as well. It’s not the Oppression Olympics. One person’s pain doesn’t negate your own.
    Now, as I’ve said earlier, Lin got discriminated against, and he later benefited. Similar to what happened with Steve Nash in his basketball journey.
    Just like black players getting a shot at being players, but being turned down for jobs in management or coaching in other sports.
    Being a white male is still the best position to be in if you live in America, and it’s not all peaches and cream for all of them either. What people need to stop doing is refusing to see other people’s pain.

  • http://twitter.com/apowellAdvocate Allen Powell II

    Actually, Flip Murray had a similar stretch, it wasn’t just a couple good games. But he was in Seattle, he’s black and he didn’t go to Harvard.
    And there is no such thing as Reverse Discrimination.
    There is discrimination. It happens to lots of different folks BUT it happens to white folks a lot less than they’d like to believe.

  • anon

    Probably the most insightful rebuttal I’ve read on Slam. Well said, Allen P.

  • zogs19994

    “probably”…..LOL 100% CUZ HE’S ASAIN

  • Lauren Frank

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  • Redd

    YOU sound stupid ‘boss’.

    You really are going to complain that it’s not all “peaches and cream” while a white 18 month old baby gets shot AFTER a black 18 month old baby got shot in the SAME scenario but the white baby gets all the news attention? Save that crap, you just played yourself. I’m not by any means saying either childs life mattered more but don’t say stupid stuff about a white person also struggling, I don’t care, obviously everyone in a more detailed way has their own fights, I’m not saying that doesn’t matter, I SPECIFICALLY said ultimately was a keyword.

    Nobody is refusing anyone’s pain but I’m giving the facts of who is ultimately a minority & that is that. I’m no heartless jerk, I’m studying hard to go around the world save lives, not save skin colors. I’m not saying Idc about people’s personal plights but in a wholistic manner you can’t tell me those 3 minorities don’t see the most absolute oppression race wise.

    If you wanna get deeper, no social group has been more neglected, demeaned, insulted, bullied, and treated unjust than people with Mental/Physical handicaps.

    Point.blank.period. But don’t sit & talk about something that is far from the discussion & act like I didn’t mean minorities in the oppressive sense because in that sense it’s simply only Blacks, Latinos, Muslims, and people with Handicaps.

  • Bluee

    I actually think you are somewhat articulate (notwithstanding your absolute misuse of the word “minority” – which I will not even comment on) – which makes your comments all the more disturbing. Since you did not directly rebut the major premise of my argument (which was that: while race is a factor in his current “hype” – race was also a prejudicial factor in his ability to succeed) I take it that we are in agreement for the most part.

    Yao is a stereotype in terms of characterizing foreign born players. Your right his physical stature and his immortalization as a “meme” is unparalleled. But Yao fits the international player stereotype in that he is not a loud, outlandish, expressive or strong personality – much like guys such as Peja, Ginobili, Parker. Yao’s situation is also markedly different from Lin’s. Yao was a highly coveted and was drafted number one overall. Jeremy (an Asian American) went undrafted and was cut from his teams multiple times.

    You can accept Yao because he is (literally) from another country. His rise to fame was already in motion before he came to the US.

    You cannot accept Jeremy because he made his fame in the US in a sport that is only reserved for the “right type” of American minority.

    From your comments I understand that you believe Asian Americans have got it easy. Your anecdotal evidence of never hearing or witnessing a racial slur used against Asians is improbable. You must have lived under a rock when Lin was the subject of small penis jokes and “Chink in the Armour” usage by the media. Your failure to include Asians as a minority group coupled with the media insensitivity is an example of ‘Merica’s treatment of Asians as an invisible minority.

    I understand why you think it’s easy being Asian American. The stereotype is that we drive BMW’s, have all the latest technology, that we rock the latest, nicest sneakers on the court (I personally still ball in Blackout Kobe V’s). I am unaware of US census data – but I can accept the perception that relative to other minorities, Asians might enjoy a higher socio-economic status. But even IF this is true, it is a selection effect. The Asians you see in the US are “rich” because they can afford to immigrate here in the first place. And please do not discount the fact that these “rich” Asians are not representative of the MANY poor Asians in America.

    Trust me when I say Asian Americans are racially discriminated against as well. Aside from “normal” baseless, overt racism (such as when people make fun of our eyes or accent) – we face xenophobia and other subtle forms of racism and ignorance. We are hated on because we are the largest debt holder of the US, American corporations have outsourced their jobs to Asian countries (and we are hated on just cuz we tryin to eat and get that paper too) and this recent North Korean situation has even caused more divisiveness.

    I don’t expect you to get it or even care. You seem firmly entrenched in your beliefs and that’s fine. But I just felt the need to comment because the reasons behind those beliefs were a bit a troubling to me.

  • http://twitter.com/apowellAdvocate Allen Powell II

    I’m not sure what your overall point was in that rant, but I’ll leave you with this.
    You made an asinine comment. Hell, I would say it was racist.
    There is no doubt that complaints by Lin and Nash and others like them can be irritating because it’s easy to see advantages their race has provided them. It’s easy to ignore their complaints and say “You don’t know how good you have it.”
    But, “ultimately” that’s counter productive. No, I don’t have time for folks who have clearly benefited from the current power system constantly whining about their plight, but I do have time to listen to people air a genuine complaints and see if there is a way to correct the problem.
    I’m not sure what your comment about the mentally or physically disabled is related to, since that wasn’t the topic of discussion.
    What I was discussing was your blase dismissal of racism against Asian Americans which I can only assume is due to willful ignorance because given the availability of information today it’s quite easy to learn about the plight of any minority group.
    So, just to be clear, discrimination against Asians is real. They also benefit from some discrimination. Discrimination against black people is real, but we also benefit sometimes. If you want to have a discussion about who benefits the most among America’s different racial groups then that’s a different discussion from “Hey, Asians don’t even have problems.”

  • The Seed

    Not to be mean or funny. A Black Man in this world already has alot against them, because of negative stereotypes people have of us. I have not gotten jobs, because I was too intimidating or seemed too smart-code word-BLACK, what. I worked with mainly Caucasians my whole life and I have seen Blacks get blasted for things they do. They look out more for each other, than Blacks do. A Black makes it, if you don’t know them, they are scared to give you a shot, because they think you will take their job mainly set up for the Black person. Don’t get me wrong, things are better for some, but worst for others. Just look at TV, we have roles and look at business and sports. I have seen it too many times. This world is about networking and guess who runs that. Look at the world and business, we as Blacks need a month for us and think about this, we celebrate Blacks who so called succeeded, because its far and few between. That’s why 60 minutes, CNN, BET and other things need to celebrate BLACKS. Black Men have it hard in this world and for this guy Lin to act like he struggled compared to a person that grew up with a low income situation is ludicrous. His resume could be worst than mine, but I bet you he would get hired for a CEO job. Look at the demographics. I have, its low, low. 70% of Black homes are single parents. That’s the first mistake, men are not raising men. Men have kids, then leave them for a pleasurable life or something better. Bill Cosby states its the best. This is my rant.

  • LakeShow

    Well said Allen.
    We don’t see eye to eye on allot of societal issues, but complete co-sign here.
    I don’t know what the ‘white folks considering them grinder’ stuff is all about, but i’ll leave that alone haha.

  • LakeShow

    Who’s roscoe? Or is that you that you were referring to, but in the 3rd person?
    And if so, why?

  • Redd

    “minorities in the oppressive term”(not a direct quote but I said something like that). You should read.

    Reverse Racism? LMFAO, I can’t take you seriously at all, White people face racism? OH NO…dang all that enslaving races & causing the biggest genocide ever & still benefiting from all that..jeez white people are treated unjust!!!

    Just shut up, White folks don’t face racism nor oppression but that’s not to minimalize or say say white folks matter less but merely to say it’s easiest being white.

  • LakeShow

    YOU ARE AMAZING.

  • Redd

    Pretty sure this is sarcasm & as usual you’re insulting me.

    Damn you.

  • LakeShow

    I just feel your not aware of the plight of being a human.

  • Redd

    (posting here cause it won’t let me do so on the bottom)

    Na, but the thing is you’re wrong, I admit his race+his fame definitely would cause racism & I by no means think that’s ok. I tackled that & agreed like 2-3 times.

    But yet again you’re wrong, my fav. NBA players are Jimmy Butler & D. Rose, both modest guys who don’t play cocky or show any disrespect. It’s not about me liking Yao cause of me thinking him as a “typical” foreigner, I could care less. I was born in a 3rd world village..doesn’t matter to me.

    Nor are some of those real stereotypes, a BMW? Lol Asians aren’t stereotyped as having amazing cars although if they were that’s awesome. I personally wear 30 dollar Asics to hoop..Idc about what a man wears just what a man stands up for. I agree the typical groups whom we consider minorities face discrimination but as far as straight up, consistent all through out racism goes there’s a very select few & as I said M/P Handicaps have it the hardest.

  • Redd

    I think you could be right, I don’t get humans.

  • LakeShow

    Flip was great, he put up 24-4-4 on 50% FG’s. But the Sonics only went 7-6 over that period. His stats steadily dropped after that. Over the rest of the season he averaged only 10-2-2 on 40% fg’s.

    Lin was picked up off of waivers and was expected to not get any PT as a 4th string PG. When he was given PT and eventually the starting job, he took the team on a 7 game winning streak, and put up 24-9-4 on 50% FG’s and added 2.5 steals.
    Lin was a catalyst to the Knicks actually winning games is the main reason for me why his performance was greater. And his stats were greater over those runs too.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    It is a term often use for Asians. Remember on Harold and Kumar when the white cats were dumping work on him? That was a play on the grinder stereotype. It is the idea that Asians are good for the grunt work but can’t be leaders.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Knicks had a better squad in a weaker conference. My point was that is wasn’t a couple games it was a similar stretch of great play. Sonics were horrible that year in general.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Dude he went to Harvard. Yes he would get hired before you and me. Having Harvard on your résumé opens a lot of doors.

  • Bluee

    Aside from his undue media coverage…. why do you “dislike” Jeremy Lin? IMO he does not give off a cocky vibe at all -he actually seems very modest, down to earth and grateful.

    You can make a very strong, persuasive argument that other minority groups have been more marginalized than Asians in America but I don’t see why that should provide the basis for your hate for another person that has had to overcome a lot in his own respect.

    I think the reason why Jackie Robinson was such a great story (and I’m sure the movie will good) was because he broke through and overcame barriers during a VERY oppressive time period. Does Jeremy Line face the same level of overt oppression as Jackie Robinson? No, definitely not. But I think the same principles which make Jackies Robinson a feel-good story also apply to Jeremy Lin’s situation as well.

  • http://twitter.com/ec_lkhaa Will Lee

    any topics regarding race, kobe and lakers will balloon to 150 replies.

  • Redd

    Oh my issue with Lin isn’t race, I dislike his attempt at portraying himself as a good guy who doesn’t get caught up when realistically I know otherwise. I don’t like him as a person.

    Well if you want an Asian Jackie Robinson it’d be Wataru Misaka, not Lin lol.

    It’s sadder we didn’t realize our names are Redd & Bluee and we’ve been arguing..wth is wrong with me.

  • LakeShow

    I see.
    I don’t think it’s only white people that stereotype Asians was my main point there.

  • LakeShow

    Your right that the talent gap was quite different, but my point was just why it was more impressive, not that Flip wasn’t as good.

  • Bluee

    Haha. No, no, I purposely chose Bluee as username as a passive-agressive attempt to antagonize you further lol.

  • Redd

    OH..I didn’t even notice until now.

  • Redd

    Asians face racism like Blacks, Muslims, and Latinos?

    They really don’t & it’s hilarious how hypocritical assuming so is.

    I also never said Asians have no problems, every group gets put down but I’ve yet to see excessive racism towards Asians occur, does it occur? I’m sure it does but not in a massive way.

    If it was mass racism then there’d be issues & we’d be hearing about it a lot, that’s not me saying it’s a non-issue. It’s an issue that has to be addressed but not in a national level such as the aforementioned do.

    *ultimately-altogether, more than basketball.

  • SuckItRed

    have you noticed that you haven’t gotten a single thumbs up on any of your comments? @Red7252:disqus no one agrees with you and your biased opinions…go away

  • chubachuchi

    American poor is different from 3rd world poor. You talk about low income? Go visit piss poor countries in Africa, Latin America, and Asia. They don’t get welfare, they literally starve daily, and many aren’t even recognized as citizens of society.

    Would you pick the projects, which provides a roof over your head, or would you pick living by a river where all the world’s sh*t pass through, and that’s where you find food to eat and things to scavenge. Poor? lol. You don’t know anything about it, Americans have no idea how good they have it.

    And shame on you, a black dude, who’s race has known the struggle for forever, to be putting down another minority group which has been opressed just as much.

    PS Are you and Redd related? It seems like it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.callihan1 Chris Callihan

    dominant

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.callihan1 Chris Callihan

    The man loves arguments like these…keeps the masses occupied

  • Herm Cain

    Just as much gtfoh you must be a white boy writing this dumb s**t the only reason what Redd is saying is being disputed is because this site is majority white boys who don’t have a clue what discrimination or racism really is just the fact you mentioned welfare lets me know you have a skewed perception of are reality

  • Herm Cain

    *our

  • LLC#12

    Didn’t he get racially abused during some of his college games? How often do players from other ethnic groups get racially abused during college games?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    I’m not going to engage in a debate with someone who’s primary rebuttal is “LMFAO, I can’t take you seriously at all, White people face racism? OH NO…dang all that enslaving races & causing the biggest genocide ever & still benefiting from all that..jeez white people are treated unjust!!!”

    Grow up, and learn to have a less ignorant view of the world than you currently do before trying to preach about race relations.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Your experiences with Asians and their concerns could be generously described as minimal.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    That is a bit of a stretch. Lin and Tiger Woods have more in common.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    I am black.

  • roscoe

    just to upset peeps.. you know?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you are an idiot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Thank you for saying all this. He won’t get it, but it needed to be said.

  • Redd

    Says the white guy?

  • Redd

    It’s ignorant to think white people face oppression.

    PEACE

  • Redd

    Also very true.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Says the white guy, with a black fiance, mixed race child, asian best friend, and mexican coworkers.

  • Redd

    There it is, apparently that is what means that you’re no longer still benefiting from your skin color.

    Basketball wise, I’m a child to you, but in this case you’re an idiot.

    It’s easy for you to call me an idiot with the subject matter I’m discussing because you’re white, so again, says the white guy.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk
  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it is easy for anyone to call you an idiot about this discussion. because you are saying things only an idiot would say.

  • Redd

    Lol, just stop man.

    The truth is exactly what I said, you’re an idiot if you don’t agree that white people aren’t benefiting per skin color, that’s clear cut truth.

    Only white folks would deny that, it’s the ignorance & self-entitlement because of the sleeping truth that they’re held higher.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    “The truth is exactly what I said, you’re an idiot if you don’t agree that white people aren’t benefiting per skin color, that’s clear cut truth.

    Only white folks would deny that, it’s the ignorance & self-entitlement because of the sleeping truth that they’re held higher.”

    .
    See the thing is, I didn’t deny any of this. All i did was call you an idiot.
    .
    But since you are racist, you ASSUMED i was talking about me being white and facing oppression.
    .
    Your pre-existing beliefs, caused you to make a racist assumption about me as a white male.
    .
    And i let you prove that on your own..
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    just by calling you an idiot.

  • Redd

    Yes..because most(be it white or not) wouldn’t assume you called me an idiot based on the premise I made saying that white folk don’t face oppression right?

    Yes, dang I’m so racist against white people, lol. I love them white people tears.

    Just stop, you’re feeding the belief most minorities have of white people feeling entitled to not be called dumb names like cracker which isn’t racist. You all get offended by that word(generally) cause you want to always fit in & be accepted despite the past. I’m racist? The institution made by white people that lets a black baby getting shot to death not matter as much as a white baby done the same way, allows me to not care what you think.

    PEACE

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You are an idiot. Someday you’ll get a better grasp on the world, hopefully. Projecting all your stupid beliefs onto all people of a single race, is racist. Thinking its ok to call a race something derogatory because of actions done by previous generations is racist. .
    And if you didn’t care about my opinion, you wouldn’t have typed all of this stupid nonsense.

  • http://twitter.com/apowellAdvocate Allen Powell II

    Fist bump homie. Exactly what I would have said had I the time or inclination to type all that for someone who honestly believes any minority has escaped the reach of racism and discrimination in this country. I mean, you realize that other than American Indians, Asian Americans (the Japanese) are the only group to be forcibly moved to concentration camps right?
    Look, I understand the frustration with people downplaying the impact discrimination and injustice continues to have on the black community, but the response is not to tell other minorities that they don’t get the same treatment. That’s just alienating allies.

  • vtrobot

    Were internment camps “excessive?”

  • Redd

    I typed it not for your opinion, but to give my opinion on your idiotic false white American belief on the reality of oppression.

    White people DO NOT FACE racism. This is the opinion of every minority generally, this isn’t an new ideology, it’s been known white people like you think you face racism. This while being treated better and since the days of mass genocide of native Americans til now think that all is different while in 2012 there’s been a huge spike in hate crimes from white people.

    You may not be racist but you’re benefiting still and not oppressed like minorities, enjoy your false belief otherwise.

  • bluee

    Thanks bro. I honestly believe the reason why ALL minorities face marginalization in America is because we are too busy hating each other rather than working together or at least respecting each other and identifying the source of our oppression (which may manifest itself in different ways pending on our ethnicity). When I went to a game last year the people booing and taunting Jeremy Lin were not caucasian but other members of visible minority groups.

    I know I sound very idealistic and Marxist – but until the oppressed (all minorities) stop fighting amongst ourselves, nothing will change.

    If Redd hates dislikes Jeremy Lin because he thinks Lin is “fake” or is portraying himself as someone who he is not – that’s fine. I think that’s a big reason Kobe Bryant is so polarizing – because nobody really knows who he is (especially early on in his career).

    But I dont think its right to hate on Lin just because he belongs to a minority group in the US that has arguably suffered to a lesser degree relative to other minority groups – which is what I think Redd is doing judging from his comments.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    “I typed it not for your opinion, but to give my opinion on your idiotic false white American belief on the reality of oppression.”

    .

    - I DID NOT GIVE YOU MY OPINION.

    .

    You see why i’m calling you an idiot?

    .

    You are projecting some weird belief you have made up about white people in your head onto me strictly because I am white.

    .

    Which is racist.

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    You are complaining about racism, while being racist.
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    You are an idiot.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you are dumb. that’s what’s wrong.

  • Redd

    I’m laughing, a white guy crying over racism, it never gets old.

    Man white people have always been treated so unjust.

    Continue the white people tears, I’m done responding.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    You may not actually be racist, but you’re sure as hell coming off like you are.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    are you illiterate? i understand you can read words, but do you know what they actually mean? i’m not crying over racism at all. i’m calling you an idiot, because you don’t realize that you are being racist while being so passionate about racism.
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    i don’t care that you are racist. obviously you don’t realize it, or even see the hypocritical nature of what you are saying about racism, i just think you should do some self reflection. take a step back and read that words you are typing as not a person of race, but as a person.
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    black people have faced the most oppression in this country. but they are not the only race to suffer, there are different degrees of oppression. and you should accept this.
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    oppression is a whole different matter entirely.
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    - and i do encounter racism. but who cares? the racism i encounter is irrelevant, and i’m in no way oppressed. but i’m not going to pretend like racism doesn’t exist for every type of person.
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    the best way to get rid of it, is to just accept that it’s there, and to not put more attention on it then you need to. by repeating yourself unprovoked like this, focusing on YOUR OWN BELIEF that white people think they have been treated unjustly (we don’t. most of us that i know, are actually ashamed of how white people in the past treated others. which is why terms like “cracker” ARE racist. because that is slander towards a person of a particular skin color, strictly because of their skin color). you are only showing your own personal beliefs towards another race with this bullsh*t.
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    go ahead and act like this is coming from some place that my comments never come from. some weird side motivation that i think i’m oppressed or that i’ve had it hard somehow because i’m white in america (which, to even think White people feel this way, is ridiculous — and it is completely idiotic to project it onto the majority of white people). You are stupid for feeling this way. Do some f*cking self reflection, you aren’t furthering the race issue by implementing your own broken beliefs into something totally unrelated. And like any of my comments, I am calling you an idiot and telling you to do self reflection to help you. Someday, hopefully, you will see how stupid what you have said here, truly is.

  • Redd

    Idiots like you find racism in nothing, call out a white guy and it’s racism.

    White people still act like they’re the victims, human, walking CNN channels. Moron, the only oppression whites have faced has been in places like Bosnia, Germany, etc and those 2 were Jewish and Muslim people.

    You my friend are the typical oblivious white guy that doesn’t realize anything because you’re in your warped white world.

  • chubachuchi

    I am Filipino American. You know “Pacroid’s” kin. Come visit my country you’ll never complain about your “poor” life again.

  • http://twitter.com/apowellAdvocate Allen Powell II

    This was a good comment, but Redd is right. Tons of white people feel oppressed. All you have to do is watch Fox News, the most popular cable news station in America, to see that viewpoint repeatedly constantly and affirmed. Listed to Tea Party and general conservative rhetoric. And this isn’t new. Even in the 60s and 70s, white people felt oppressed, mainly because human beings tend to focus more on their own struggles than putting those struggles in proper context.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    That’s fair. I shouldn’t have said he’s dumb for thinking some white people feel this way. But that doesn’t change that he projected that belief onto me and many other white people that in no way shape or form have those feelings or beliefs.

  • Dgr8t1DTP

    Redd you are an idiot and a racist. Straight up. Asians or Asian Americans don’t get discriminated? I havn’t read through everything, but I have read enough to think he is a racist. I understand that Muslims, African American, and Latinos( the MINORITIES Redd pointed out) have had it tough, but I believe in this day and age EVERYONE gets discriminated on. For him to just include those two races and a religion shows how ignorant he is.

    And I can actually speak on behalf of what Asian Americans go through. I am a Filipino American. I played Junior High school ball and JV ball in high school. All throughout my playing days I would get insulted. It came from all races. Anything from Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee, and of course the ching chang ching chang comments. If Redd ever played basketball for a school, you know this is true for Asian players. How is this not considered racist?

    This is also just basketball. There have been many “real world” examples given here such as small penis jokes, being nerds, etc. as well. I guess we can’t classify that as racism too? If you want to bring up slavery, “getting shot at”, violence… Don’t act like that African Americans, Latinos, or Muslims are the only minorities that went through that. You consider yourself educated and smart, then stop acting like an ignorant dumbass.

    Seed, there are different types of struggles. Being poor isn’t the only one…

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