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Friday, May 31st, 2013 at 9:10 am  |  104 responses

Chris ‘Birdman’ Andersen Shoves Tyler Hansbrough (VIDEO)

Straight feudin’.

It’s fair to say that Birdman and Psycho T aren’t very big fans of one another. Things reached a boiling point in Game 5 last night, as Chris Andersen pushed Tyler Hansbrough to the ground, before delivering a hard shove. Both players were hit with technical fouls, and Andersen also picked up a flagrant-1 for his efforts.

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  • pposse

    SO…why was he not ejected for this?

    Nazr shoves Lebron and gets ejected meanwhile this BirdShi*t blindsides elbows TH to the ground then follows that up with a push for good measure and stays in the game.

    One of two things happened here, either BirdSh*T should have been ejected and the referees just “missed” the call for no good reason, OR Nazr never should have been ejected in the first place

  • Redd

    Between the 2, I’d much rather cheer on Tyler than the white dude who looks like a joke.

  • TR

    He gave him a bump, psycho T just didn’t see it coming, which is why it looked so bad. It was weak.

  • pposse

    nonsense, it was a cheap shot, if the NBA wants to show any sort of consistency then that should have warranted an ejection; he made nothing even close to a basketball play. Unfortunately for the Pacers the Birdman is one of the very few bigs on the Heat squad, which is probably why he didn’t get ejected

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  • Dfrance

    I really don’t see how you review that play and don’t throw Birdman out, but manage to give Tyler a tech. Birdman was the aggressor, all Tyler did was stick up for himself.

  • gman

    cuz noone cares about Hanshomo

  • Gman

    nonsense.

  • TR

    I honestly don’t think he pushed him that hard, a little shoulder block like that is no big deal. I think it warrants a tech, but come on man, stuff like this used to happen all the time back in the day.

  • pposse

    I know it did, but in comparison to what Nazr did to Lebron, I see zero difference other than the fact that Lebron is Lebron and TH is TH; but everyone was saying how it was justified the ejection on Nazr. These are the reasons why fans become cynical and claim that there are conspiracies in the league. Even Kerr and Reggie touched on it, and said that Tyler should have flopped on the push like Lebron did (that was word for word what they said, yes they said Bron floppedd!) but they both were in agreement that if you call it that way then, then it should be called that way now.

  • i_ball

    But the game should be officiated using today’s rules. He should have been ejected

  • i_ball

    They shouldn’t mess up calls after review. You can argue if Birdman should have been tossed but no way Tyler deserved a technical

  • TR

    Yeah I hear you, but officiating is always going to be subjective. I just feel like this play and Nazr’s were yellow cards. If they wouldn’t of gotten the boot in soccer then they shouldn’t in bball.

  • fruizm

    Psycho T was scared! He got intimidated real bad!!!

  • JessicaJ

    I for one did not understand what was going inside the bird’s brain. It was totally out of nowhere. Even the crowd wasn’t even sure how to react.

    But boy, the block did make the whole arena stand up!

  • PatRileyistheMan

    One clear difference between the two that you idiots are not seeing: after the initial shoulder bump that sent TH to the floor (which was pretty weak, and looks to me like Hansbrough is flopping), Hansborough went up and bumped chests with Birdman, prompting the shove. It’s clear on the replay, at 12 seconds in, Hansbrough is trying to be a tough guy, gets in Birdman’s face (who is, in fairness, giving it right back) and pops out his chest to make contact with Birdman. Lebron did nothing like that; he was standing still, wasn’t in Nazr’s face at all, was actually talking to the ref with his hands up, and Nazr walked up to him and shoved him out of nowhere, aka cheap shot. If Hansborough had stood back, raised his hands, and let Birdman come shove him in the chest without getting into Birdman’s face and tough guy chest bumping him, different story: namely, no tech and an ejection. Because TH got in Birdman’s face and instigated contact with the chest bump, it can be viewed that Birdman was defending himself by getting Hansbrough out of his face, whereas Nazr walked up and shoved Lebron when Lebron was not in any kind of aggressive (or even ready) stance or showing any kind of aggressive body language. Clear difference and perfect justification for the differences. All of you who are blind to those differences are just arbitrary heat haters who are gonna have your precious little feelers dumped on again when they win the championship again this year.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    He did deserve a Tech. He could’ve just taken the flagrant and walked away, but he wanted to show (after getting punked already by Birdman in the series) he’s a tough guy, so he got in Birdman’s face and started chest bumping him. Birdman deserves what he got, but TH deserves a T for his aggressive response to the initial flagrant. You’re a fool to not see that.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    I pointed out a pretty valid difference. See above.

  • bike

    Don’t forget the insanity defense. During their evaluation, the refs can rule out an ejection if they think the player was insane at that exact moment. Since Birdman is a certified nut job 24/7, he will usually get the break.

  • Dfrance

    First of all, the name calling is unnecessary. Secondly, I’m a Celtic fan, I couldn’t care any less about either one of these teams. But Birdman knocks Tyler to the ground. Tyler gets up and is standing still. Birdman takes 3 steps towards Tyler and they bump chests and then Birdman shoves him. How you take that as Tyler trying to be a tough guy is beyond me.

    I can’t stand Hansbrough, he’s a flopper and can be a cheap shotter, but in this instance he did nothing wrong in my eyes.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    I agree. That was a nice little shoulder block but nothing more. He could’ve stayed on his feet just like I felt LeBron could’ve stayed on his feet when he was pushed by Nazr.

  • kwamepooh

    true dfrance. tyler said something after he got knocked down and then birdman is turning and actually walking straight into him.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    What he did wrong was not just ignore it. Take the foul and back off, don’t give in to Birdman’s baiting by getting up his face and looking like you’re going to punch him. Lebron got a tech in the Mohammed incident, and Hansborough did more non-basketball aggression here than Lebron did there, so doesn’t that justify the technical? And his tough guy response to the shoulder bump, which preceded Andersen pushing him, justifies Anderson not getting ejected.

  • Max

    What happened after the first bump is irrelevant to it being an ejection, T,…
    If you’re gonna eject Nazr you also have to eject the birdman for what he did.

  • Dfrance

    I think Tyler standing still was about as much restraint as he could have shown after getting knocked to the ground. Had Bird not walked toward him, it wouldn’t have escalated further.Tyler didn’t walk into Birdman, its the other way around.

  • Max

    So you think it would have been an ejection if Tyler would just keep lying there on the ground, but because he got up it was only a flagrant?
    What kind of logic is that?

  • i_ball

    Look at TH’s neck – he didn’t expect that and he stands up instantly instead of faking a hard hit(again not a flop). Even it was not a hard shove you can’t call that a flop. Then Birdman walks to him while TH is standing and shoves him. How the hew did TH deserve a tech for this?

    How can you say TH flopped. Had he fallen down after the shove – Birdy was gone

    LeBron got a tech for shoving Nazr:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SowvPA4lIo

  • PatRileyistheMan

    When Lebron got shoved, he was several feet away, hands up, talking to a ref, aka could not have reasonably anticipated that he was about to be shoved. Hansbrough, on the other hand, was in Birdman’s face (regardless of who walked into who), and stepping back and raising his hands in a show of non-aggression was an option, but given his response to the initial foul, he reasonably could, and indeed probably should, have anticipated getting shoved. Pretty simple distinction that’s difficult to miss.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    No, he didn’t just get up. He got up and got in Birdman’s face, and acted like he wanted to get into it with Birdman, whereas in Lebron’s situation the entire incident was over until Mohammed walked up to him out of nowhere to give him a shove he could not have reasonably anticipated.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    I realize I misspoke in the above comment; when I said “taken the flagrant,” I meant to refer to the initial shoulder bump, not the shove.

  • Max

    So what, what birdman did before Tyler ‘acted like he wanted to get into it with birdman’ should have been an ejection, what happens afterwards is irrelevant.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    Pause that LJ-NM video at 3 seconds and compare that situation to the CA-TH video paused as 12 seconds, i.e. where the players were, what their body language says, and what they were doing immediately preceding the shove. See the difference?

  • Dfrance

    Why do you keep bringing up when Lebron got shoved? These are two separate incidents. Why am I even trying to argue with a dude named PatRileyIsTheMan, about whether a Heat player was in the wrong???

  • R32

    Tyler dont want none of Birdman!

  • PatRileyistheMan

    Bumping someone with your shoulder while you’re both starting to run down the court warrants an immediate ejection? I don’t think so. The debate here is whether the shove warrants the ejection, not the shoulder bump.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    Because everyone one here is arguing that, supposedly, because Mohammed got ejected then, Birdman should’ve been ejected here, and I’m pointing out the glaring differences in the situations which justify the different results.

  • http://www.netstakeover.com/ JetSkiJohnson

    are you serious?

  • PatRileyistheMan

    And I don’t deny that Birdman was in the wrong, I just think the refs got the right result. No valid reason for an ejection, and the double tech was appropriate.

  • http://www.netstakeover.com/ JetSkiJohnson

    People keep comparing the push to Nazr and LeBron but Tyler Hansborough is not LeBron. Maybe if he was a star player then he would have been ejected.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    Wrong interpretation, because if someone had hit Lebron with a blindsided shoulder, like Birdman did to TH here, Lebron would not have gotten up and gotten in the instigator’s face in some misplace aggro showboating. He would have avoided further confrontation and calmly appealed to the refs, as TH should have done here.

  • http://www.netstakeover.com/ JetSkiJohnson

    lol ok Heat Fan

  • Max

    The shoulder bump is worse than the push.

  • Max

    Haha, if you stay down it’s diffrent then when you get up!
    #Heatfanlogic

  • PatRileyistheMan

    You’re apparently the only person who thinks so.

  • http://www.netstakeover.com/ JetSkiJohnson

    too much molly before the game.

  • i_ball

    Pause the TH video at 0:04. Then at 0:07 – who is walking towards who?

  • PatRileyistheMan

    I seriously don’t get how you guys can’t see the differences in the moments immediately preceding the shoves. The video evidence is pretty clear. Lebron got a tech (which he shouldn’t have) for twisting his torso and sending Mohammed to the ground b/c Mohammed had him wrapped in a bear hug. If, after Mohammed got up, Lebron had walked up and chest bumped him pretending to be an aggro tough guy, Lebron would’ve gotten a second tech, and, in such hypothetical situation, Mohammed proceeded to shove Lebron, the shove would’ve been more warranted and only received a F1. Instead, Lebron was calmly appealing to the refs, and Mohammed shoved him out of nowhere. If Hansbrough can’t be professional enough to back down from Birdman’s foolishness, he deserves a T. Watch the videos and try to honestly tell me it was the same situation. It wasn’t

  • Max

    No I’m not.

  • Matt

    Birdman Shoves Hansbrough: No ejection
    Nazr shoves Lebron: Ejection
    NBA is rigged!!!!

  • PatRileyistheMan

    They are walking into each other. Hansbrough could’ve backed down and avoided the T, he chose to play tough guy and got one instead. Right result, Heat in 6, Hibbert sucks and gets fouls called whenever somebody breaths on him, Pacers have been getting more of the bad calls in their favor all series and are still down, next year they won’t reach the ECF. Everybody else is wrong and dumb and I am smart and right. Hahahahaha, I’m out betches.

  • Max

    No it wasn’t the same situation.
    First of all, Tyler didn’t pretend to be an aggro tough guy, he just stood up and when the Birdman went at him again he took exception, nothing wrong with that.
    °
    ‘And Mohammed shoved him out of nowhere’
    Birdman did the same at the start of it all.

  • PatRileyistheMan

    Is anyone else on here arguing that the shoulder bump should be an ejection? Even the commentators last night made no mention of that. All anyone, other than you, has been saying is that the shoulder bump, while unwarranted and deserving of a penalty, did not warrant an ejection, but the push that followed did because Nazr was ejected for shoving Lebron. And I’m pointing out, with watertight logic, why CA’s shove was sufficiently different than NM’s shove, due to the immediate preceding circumstances, so as to not warrant an ejection. Y’all dummies for not seeing that.

  • Max

    A bump out of nowhere that made him fall to the ground isn’t worse than a push where he took 1 step back?

  • LebronJamesistheMan

    I agree with PatRileyistheMan, everything he says is sound logic and all his points are well taken. He must be really smart, and everyone else on here is wrong and arbitrary heat haters/not real basektball fans. Hansbrough deserved the T. Next time walk away from the situation and let Birdman look like a fool by himself! To reiterate, PatRileyistheMan IS THE MAN!

  • PatRileyistheMan

    Well I agree with your assessment as well good sir. Hansbrough acted like a punk (though he was provoked into doing so), whereas Lebron acted like a professional. TH gets a T for acting like a punk. A punk who gets shoved does not result in the shover getting a flagrant 2, whereas a calm professional who gets shoved does result in a flagrant 2. Pretty simple stuff really.

  • The Dude

    You sir, are the most irrelevant commenter on this thread. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    Learn some basketball young blood. Don’t be so biased. Birdman was in the wrong.

  • thesage

    Pat Riley is that you defending #HeatGang???

  • PatRileyistheMan

    The situations were, other than LJ’s and TH’s reactions to the initial foul, more or less identical. A defender commits an intentional and wholly unnecessary foul (Nazr sure wasn’t going for the ball, it was, in my mind, equally as malicious as CA’s shoulder, if not moreso given that Lebron was at a full run and in a vulnerable position, whereas TH had his feet set more or less and was just beginning to job up the court), the middle happens, then the initial fouler shoves the initial foulee. The difference is in what happens in the middle. Lebron backs off, professional and calm, hands raised, no aggressive posturing; Tyler gets up in his face, clenches his fist and engages in silly aggro posturing. Hence the result.

  • LebronJamesistheman

    Wow, PatRileyistheMan has incredible insightful analysis of this situation, and his logic is flawless. Good job refs on getting the right call! Heat haters be damned! Fake-tough-guy Hansbrough got a tech just like he deserved.

  • MarioChalmersistheMan

    When TH stood up, he looked at Birdman (and we can’t tell what he said) in a manner that clearly conveyed: hey man, I would like to fight you for that unwarranted shoulder bump you just inflicted on me, and then when Birdman walked up to him, TH walked into him and popped his chest out to bump him, when a cooler head (i.e. professional) would have just ignored the bating instead of asking to get a technical and shove in the chest. PatRileyistheMan should get a commentator job with the NBA his insight is so righteous. Too bad everyone else on here can’t reason logically to understand the clear distinctions between the Mohammed/James and Hansbrough/Andersen situation which clearly justified the disparate results. Keep on keeping on PatRileyistheMan! You are super smart!

  • MarioChalmersistheMan

    Since when does molly make one aggro? Besides, I’m quite certain Birdman was suspended for yayo, not molly. Duh!

  • Max

    ….

  • Max

    lol

  • spit hot fiyah

    and the other guy has psycho as part of his nickname

  • http://www.netstakeover.com/ JetSkiJohnson

    ya must be the same person

  • spit hot fiyah

    i didn’t catch it until shaq mentioned it. but the reason for birdmans shove was that he got pushed in the back on the play by paul george and thought it was tyler who did it.

  • Dfrance

    Nope. #WatertightLogic

  • pposse

    yes the shoulder bump was intential and a blind side cheap shot and warranted an ejection…you couple that with Birdman also pushing TH afterwards that should be an automatic ejection.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    you’ve never been hit by a blindside screen, have you??? you should know that wasn’t a flop on that initial bump…

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    I think they’re the same person…

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    I see what you did there. You took his last name and made a variation out of it with a gay slur. Clever clever

  • LebronJamesistheMan

    How could we be the same person. If you accept the premise that only one individual can truly be, “THE man,” and I believe LeBron James is “THE man,” whereas that other guy believes Pat Riley is “THE man” then we clearly cannot be the same person. #watertight

  • MarioChalmersistheMan

    A push is not the same thing as a shoulder bump, regardless of intent. On your logic, West should’ve been suspended when he tried to dislocate Mario’s shoulder on that screen. It wasn’t a basketball play, it was an act of malicious intent designed to cause injury. You’re just shooting yourself in the foot now buddy.

  • MarioChalmersistheMan

    NO! Obvi, I think Chalmers is the Man, he thinks Pat Riley is the Man!

  • SupernintendoChalmersistheMan

    “A flagrant foul 2 is unnecessary and excessive contact. This usually has
    a swinging motion, hard contact, and a follow through.” http://www.nba.com/features/misunderstoodrules_051128.html

    Should bump was unnecessary, but excessive? Come on jokester. Didn’t see any swinging motion, hard contact, or follow through on the shoulder bump. And the shove was not unnecessary or excessive because Hansbrough was up in Birdman’s face acting the aggro tough guy. Someone’s in my face like that in a game, I’ll push them away too. In any event, no swinging motion, hard contact (as several folks have already pointed out, it only made Hansbrough take one step back, geez), or follow through. No flagrant 2.

    That also clarifies why Wade’s phantom-elbow to flopper-Stephenson’s head the other game wasn’t a flagrant 2. He swung his elbow, made light contact, and pulled back. Not a flagrant 2. I’m out dummies.

  • MarioChalmersistheMan

    I’ll hit yo momma with a blindside d!ck!

  • pposse

    all i have to say to all that, is thats a tight screen name. Poking this stupid lebron doll with pins and needles all day does not seem to be working; but thanks to you i have gotten a better idea. I’m goin to have to engage SuperNintendoChalmers in an all out twitter beef, get in his head and ruin the team chemistry by infiltrating the Heats star pg’s twitter account and clowning him repeatedly until he starts to believe what i say. Thanks in advance jo, i appreciate you.

  • JoelAnthonyistheBestAnthony

    Lol. I already tried that with Noah and Gibson in the Bulls-Heat series. Didn’t work (or did it? it was after they both got ejected while being blown out). But good luck. Have fun getting dumped on by the Heat in Game 6, the Finals, and all of next year, and the next, and the next, . . .

  • BBallhound

    You’re crazy. TH like any man must defend himself – it blindsided as he was, any rational person would absolutely, and instinctively face and confront anyone who was the culprit of the cheap shot, sneak attack. Otherwise one would put oneself BACK in harms way. TH should not be called for a technical at all, protecting oneself is NOT being a tough guy, and aggressive – it simply is standing up for ones own ability to defend themselves. Yep, you are the fool…

  • BBallhound

    Nope, the blindside cheap shot of Birdman is in question, not the shove, or the natural response of TH. If Birdman does not get ejected for game 6 – then Indiana needs to take him out, period. One cheap shot unprotected by the league requires retaliation by the players.

  • BBallhound

    TH = 6’9″ 250 pounds, benches 365. Birdman, is indeed a birdman at 6’10 228. He might on a good day bench 250… Get real, TH is almost as hefty as Lebron…

  • BBallhound

    Yep, the whole thing was Tyler H fault for sure. He instigated the entire thing, and why he wasn’t banned from the league not only for the remainder of the playoffs, but next year as well is beyond me. Birdman on the other hand, well – poor guy, he was simply falling and TH got in his way. Bad calls by the refs, GO HEAT!!! LOL, NOT…

  • MarioChalmersistheMan

    Okay, how about comparing it to the West/Chalmers/Haslem technicals later in the game. They got technicals for getting up in each other’s faces and jawing. Same thing Hansbrough did, obviously deserves a tech.

    As to the shove, shouldn’t have been F2 because Hansbrough was up in his face. Cut and dry. Yep, you are a fool.

  • MarioChalmersistheMan

    Plus, when compared to the James/Mohammed scenario, Lebron got a tech for doing “like any man . . . [and] defending himself.” Obviously TH deserved a tech. Why don’t you stop riding his d!ck!

  • UdonisHaslemistheMan

    I never said the whole thing was TH’s fault. I’m just saying getting in someone’s face like that does warrant a tech 100% of the time, and also justifies why the shove wasn’t an F2.

    Plus, I have a disfunction that doens’t allow me to register sarcasm when in text form, so could you please clarify whether this was sarcasm or not?

  • TylerHansbroughistheWoman

    Doesn’t that just go to show that TH’s initial reaction was a flop?

  • BballhoundistheDouche

    I’d say what’s worse is Battier laying on the ground unnecessarily long and causing Hansbrough to roll his ankle in the fourth quarter. That will probably keep Hansbrough from playing 100%, if not out of the game entirely.

  • VanCityBBall

    People need to realize that in a playoff game, especially in the conference finals, emotions run high. It’s easy for us as the viewer to say “just walk away.” Anderson definitely should have been ejected, if not for the shove(s) on Tyler, but also the rule about contact with the official. The last one wasn’t really on this clip but he really tried to shove the ref out of the way.

  • danpowers

    really strange that the birdman didnt get ejected for that. he can be glad too that it didnt lead to a fight, he wouldve most likely lost badly

  • pposse

    Paul Mil-SLAP yourself supernintendo chalmers!

  • Stealth

    Facebook hack,you heard this from me first yo,its gone viral allot of people have been tweeting about this lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDeSYXp70s

  • Tj

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  • Jamesflyhigh

    wow I just gave this a go and it actually works, that was quick lol.

  • m0n3ym4k3r

    Yeh like “Jamesflyhigh” said,its very quick.omg kind of shocked it work,I saw tweets about this.

  • danpowers

    for those fools who actually think that series was rigged: http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/05/31/heats-birdman-grounded-for-game-6/

  • tony

    “The NBA suspended Miami Heat center Chris Andersen for Saturday’s Game 6 against the Indiana Pacers after an altercation with Pacers forward Tyler Hansbrough in Game 5 on Thursday night.”
    “Additionally, the technical given to Hansbrough was rescinded by the league.”
    Facts don’t lie.

  • Kayla

    Smh ! I don’t see how birdman didnt get tossed because when jr smith elbowed terry he got tossed and when Mohammad pushed Lebron he got tossed I don’t understand why birdman didnt get tossed ! That’s b.s

  • Max

    Hahah.

  • Max

    Yeah I know..
    They all 3 said the exact same words.

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  • shockexchange

    The Shock Exchange didn’t see all of that initially. He only saw the push. What in the world is “Birdman! Birdman!” out there doing. It’s pretty clear that some players are not used to playing late in the playoffs.

  • CharleyScot

    I wish they would let Hansbrough and Anderson fight. I am a Knick fan, yes I know, but I watched Hansbrough break all of Jordans records in college and it was not because he was the most talenteted player. Hansbrough would destroy the Birdman in a real fight with no cheapshots allowed. It would be over in seconds. And by the way, the subsequent block by the Birdman was no big deal, he came from the weakside and Tyler did not see him. I am glad the NBA did the right thing. Its hard enough to keep fans.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Pretty funny…… ” You Don’t have to kill a fool, he’ll do it himself…”

  • Jerome

    Ostrich deserved an ejection. Two deliberate non-basketball plays in a row warrant that. TH didn’t deserve a tech because all he did was stand up and walk toward Andersen. The fact that some claim TH was punked shows that you think this is ok. It isn’t. Pacers have had two games stolen from them and we’ll see what blown calls lead to in Game 7.

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