Houston Rockets forward Chandler Parsons put in some work at the Orlando Pro-Am, showing off his versatile game against the summer competition.
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Gay made Toronto better. Sh*t, they were above .500 with him. I agree, Gay is not a better defender, definitely not better on the ball. But he does help at a higher level (i value Parson’s defensive skillset more). On Offense, really Parson’s has not proven to be anything special. I don’t know why watching him shoot 15 shots a game in the playoffs convinced you he was so good. Because he really, wasn’t even that good doing that. Infact, he was worse than he was in the regular season, efficiency wise.
Hmmm, I dont think thats what I was saying, but sure…And the Raptors last 5 games of the season were wins against playoff teams..2 against the Bull without Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson…One against the Hawks, no Horford and limited minutes for J-Smoove…and The Celtics with no Garnett and limited minutes for Pierce and Green. They did beat a full Nets squad though…so I guess those are all very impressive wins thanks to Rudy Gay
Why are you bringing up the playoffs and correlating me liking Parson’s game and him shooting 15 shots a game in the playoffs… What does that even mean?
He had a nice post season anyway…
Nothing to rag on about 18 – 7 – 4 on 45% and 40%
what are you trying to prove by saying that then? the reason(s) Memphis improved after Rudy Gay left are not about Rudy Gay being a bad player. It’s about need. They got rid of a skillset they didn’t particularly need. For one they did.
Gay made Toronto considerably better. Was about a 20PPG scorer for them. And for them, he was more efficient than Chandler Parsons has ever proven to be. Regular season, or playoffs.
Dude you brought up wins, they were 12-16 before those last 5 Ws…Which you would have to admit weren’t that impressive. And he dropped 20 a game on probably sub 45% shooting
Pierce may still be a better player, but he won’t be proving it anymore on the Net’s is my point.
He is going to be a 14 – 4 – 4 on 45% (My gander anyway) guy next year. Which is solid, but Parson’s is looking to improve on his last season which was better than what i’m expecting Pierce to do next.
My reasoning make sense?
I mean you can still call Pierce better, and you won’t be wrong, he just isn’t going to have a a better individual season next year.
the playoffs is when you started talking about Parsons as among the better SF’s in the league. seemed to be related. Considering in the regular season he was just average.
Yes, 18 – 7 – 4, on 15.5 shots, and 40 minutes, most of them at Power Foward. Basic stats are nice and everything, but they totally ignore context. That’s why his PER in the playoffs was 13.5, his basic stats don’t really tell a good story.
Chandler Parsons projected stats for next season per Basketball-Reference
14 – 5 – 3 on 48%
Paul Pierce’s projected stats….
- just saying.
Paul Pierce had a 10.6 PER….. Yikes…
yes, he’s the best player on the Raptors. And the only dude other teams focus on. His efficiency is not going to be great. Kind of the whole purpose of looking at situations and not just stats. HIs team record wasn’t great, but 12-16 (if you really want to just erase the last 5 games) is still much better than 17-32.
I think you’re joking…. RIGHT?
Just say all you want, but it’s a crock of horse sh*t to think Pierce is going to be a 20ppg scorer next year…
I had no idea those projected stats BS was actually carried with some weight by some people… lol… please be joking…
yep…. and 19.1 in the regular season
oh hey look at that, he’s not the only good offensive player on his team this season…..
presumably, he will be a lot closer to that 19.1 PER than the 10.6. Especially if you look at, oh say, every single year of his career….
In short, I think he’s a d-bag. lol
i didn’t say i think Pierce will be a 20PPG scorer. Just showing you the projections (which actually have a formula, and are generally more accurate than guesswork).
But Pierce will be the Nets leading scorer in all likelihood. 17-19 PPG is probably a very safe bet.
What is with you and just outright lying today…
Garbage may have been a strong word…i guess garbage pertains more to the Austin Daye’s of the world, but Rudy Gay, for his talent to is an underachiever if I ever saw one.
for his talent. for his contract.
those two things are about what he is compared to what he could be. they aren’t at all related to how good he is compared to how good other’s are.
this is a pet peeve of mine. judging a player in terms of where he fits in the league, compared to where he should be. and penalizing him for it.
No, it’s not a safe bet.
The formula is basing it off their previous season and Parsons is a sophomore and Piecre is a Hall of Famer.
It should be Lopez at around 18ppg, then Williams at 17ppg then Pierce at 15ppg.
He’s going to play around 30mpg.
He’s turning 36 next month and they have a couple players to spell time for him.
He’s not going to have to major output you think he will, I promise you that.
Don’t feel bad using too strong of words or phrases.
That’s nbk’s main thing.
He’ll call Parson’s a “train wreck” defensively and then admit to him being a pretty solid defender moments later.
Garbage may be a strong adjective. I guess its more like…Rudy Gay is garbage for how good I think he could’ve been
there is more to efficiency than shooting. for the 10 thousandth time.
I was talking about overall efficiency.
Rudy Gay PER – 17.6
Chandler Parsons PER – 15.5
The main difference that separates them, is Rudy Gay getting to the FT Line, and making a higher % of them. Plus the defensive numbers he puts up that make up for his turnovers/lower FG %
15.3 is Parsons regular season PER.
For his place on his team, that is very typical and actually quite nice.
Rudy Gay had the same PER last year.
Leonard 1 point more on his PER.
Batum is the same.
Iggy… You’ll never guess….. THE f*cking exact same!!!!!
So we should judge Parsons based upon his PER, and not his very nice opening playoff games of his career, but not judge Pierce on his 10th plus time being there… Got it man.
All I wanted to know haha!
He probably is.
No GAY: 15.6 PER…
The exact f*cking same….
What defensive #’s does Rudy Gay put up that make him better?
wow, way to take something to the most extreme position you can.
i never said Rudy Gay’s PER makes him better than Chandler Parsons. I never said anyone’s PER made anyone better than anyone else. Just used it to show who was a more efficient overall player.
i showed Chandler Parson’s playoff PER to show that his basic stats are a product of increased minutes/attempts/usage. Not a result of higher performance.
And 15.3 is 0.3 points above average. If “solid = average” then, yup. But as i’ve always said, PER doesn’t paint the whole story. It’s basically an offensive stat that uses defensive statistics to try and show offensive impact (Defensive Rebounds / Blocks / Steals – lead to offensive possessions).
“Basic stats are nice and everything, but they totally ignore context. That’s why his PER in the playoffs was 13.5, his basic stats don’t really tell a good story.”
What was that paragraph for?
To down play the importance of PER?
Your like a flip flopping politician right now…
We should just start calling you John Kerry.
“Gay made Toronto considerably better. Was about a 20PPG scorer for them. And for them, he was more efficient than Chandler Parsons has ever proven to be”
Rudy Gay’s PER in Toronto = 17.6
Steals / Blocks, i am not saying he’s a better defender (he’s only a better defender off the ball…worse on it), just those stats make up for the efficiency defense on the shooting end.
Oh those “useless” stats…
“what was that paragraph for?”
“i showed Chandler Parson’s playoff PER to show that his basic stats are a product of increased minutes/attempts/usage. Not a result of higher performance.”
Just read numb nuts.
Just watch numb nuts.
I learn from the bestest.
it must be really frustrating when people admit to being wrong. much better if everyone get’s all defensive when people don’t agree with them…right?
Wait, your admitting to being wrong? About what?
So you actually thought Parsons was a terrible defender when you first came on here?
Dude you gotta watch some games, it’s pretty obvious Parsons is a good defender.
i know he’s not terrible. lol, i was wrong for saying he was a trainwreck. which i said, literally, 10 minutes after i posted that first dumb comment.
only useless when someone says, “player A is a better defender because (Blocks/Steals) than player B” – which i would hope you agree with.
well lol, what’s the problem with calling them useless in those situations?
must be a slow day at work
Comment party up in this post, dang.
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