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Thursday, September 5th, 2013 at 10:55 am  |  93 responses

Chandler Parsons Plays in Orlando Pro-Am (VIDEO)

Houston Rockets forward Chandler Parsons put in some work at the Orlando Pro-Am, showing off his versatile game against the summer competition.

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  • ScrewT

    #PayChandler

  • TR

    was that ron harper in this b****? haha

  • LakeShow

    I think he’s the 5th best SF.

    Bron, KD, PG, Melo, Parsons,

  • davidR

    chandler is def a hooper. over iggy tho? not that i disagree, but i’m just saying

  • spit hot fiyah

    that was a lot of highlights, here is a low light

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JWhEP35tco

  • LakeShow

    Good call… Hmmm… That is a tough one, Iggy’s my dood.

    I think Parson’s, going forward, (age difference) but it’s tough, you’ve got a point.

  • spit hot fiyah

    per dollar made, yes.

    but just straight up?

    these guys all have an argument for being better:

    Pierce, Deng, Gallo, Iggy, (Josh Smith? not really a SF), Batum, Leonard (definitely), Rudy Gay

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    GTFOH

  • LakeShow

    NO

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk
  • LakeShow

    Pierce (he’s lost too many steps now, and has less needed out of him on the Net’s)

    Deng (similar player, slightly less talented at everything except defense)
    Gallo (needs to be better defensively, and shoot more consistently to put himself up that high)
    Iggy (sure i’ll give you that one)
    Josh Smith (He’s a PF, but yes he’s better if we call him a SF)
    Batum (can make a case)
    Leonard (can make a case)
    Rudy Gay (no)

  • LakeShow

    LOL, he’s better than all of them…

    How could he be 5th best of those guys if he’s better than all of them?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    in what way is he better? because you think so?
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    you do realize Chandler Parsons is a train wreck defensively right? And you do realize on offense he’s not really THAT good? he just gets opportunities, but he doesn’t really do ANYTHING at a very high level. He’s just a good player.
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    And again, defensively? he’s a total and complete trainwreck. Paul Pierce is still a better defender than Chandler Parsons. LOL

  • Dfrance

    Parsons looks like the type of dude to record and submit his own pro am highlight tape to one of these websites.

  • spit hot fiyah

    leonard is clear cut imo. pierce i’m not sure about.

    i would take the rest over parsons on my team, if i don’t have to consider contracts. his is extremely good contract is what makes him so valuable right now

  • davidR

    i also think leonard might be slightly better, and batum is better at this point, although parsons has the potential to be better over time

  • LakeShow

    I need to see a little more offensive output from Leonard to decide between those two.

    Leonard only does what is needed of him and what Pop wants him to do. Which is f*cking great for the Spurs, but for us fans, we have no idea what he would be capable of on a team that needed more output from him.

    Right now though, he’s a better rebounder and defender than Parson’s while Parson’s is the better offensive player.

    Pretty hard to really make a certifiable choice.

    I just like the more complete game that Chandler has right now.

    Batum can definitely be argued too.

    Iggy, Batum, and Leonard are the three that CAN outplay Parson’s next year though.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Chandler Parson’s doesn’t have a complete game tho. He has half of one. And he’s slightly above average.

  • LakeShow

    I was not referring to his contract in any way.

    I think (pretty damn positive) he is a better player than all of them right now.

    I don’t know why you like worse shooters, (Deng, Batum, Gallo, Pierce, Gay, Iggy, Smith) and worse defenders (Gallo, Pierce, Gay) over a better one, but okay…

  • davidR

    in his defense, he’s still pretty young and has the mental & physical tools to be a great offensive player. he made a huge jump last season, and should be on track to really do well this season

    i think he can improve defensively. i dunno, i just like his game. he plays hard and works hard, and now dwight is there. we’ll see

  • Karl

    train wreck defensively? Do you watch the Rockets or do you just make blind assumptions? As a Rockets fan, he’s probably one of the most versatile defenders we have. Paul Pierce is a better defender? LOL @ YOU

  • LakeShow

    LOL

    I’ll get back to you after I stop laughing…

    wow…

  • LakeShow

    Nope, He’s a very good defender, shooter, and passer.

    The fact that there are things he cannot do well does not make him not complete as a player.

    He is more complete skill-set wise than Leonard, Gay, Gallo, Deng, Smith.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ok train wreck is strong. especially after how good he was. specifically when that was his primary role. but since then, since he’s gained much offensive responsibility, he’s really taken steps back. especially when he’s not guarding the ball. He’s not very good on defense. He’s pretty good on the ball against certain types of players. But he’s really not that good.

  • LakeShow

    because you say so… got it…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    more complete is fine. but to say he’s a complete player like he does everything at atleast an average level is saying too much. And really calling him better than Gay/Gallo/Deng (Gallo & Deng i probably agree with) are projections. That isn’t a definite, proven thing you can say.

  • LakeShow

    What does that mean?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i have no problems with Parsons at all. But he’s not a top 5 SF right now. LOL, that’s just nonsense.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you want stats? or you going to just talk about how those don’t matter like usual?

  • ctk

    Skill for skill ..Pierce still better than Paul George

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no.

  • LakeShow

    They (stats) don’t matter.

    Please tell me you realize that defensive stats don’t really have consistency when dealing with completely different teams.

    The Rockets were one of the worse defensive teams last year.

    Parsons defensive stats will all be skewed based upon his teams defense.

  • LakeShow

    You’re right.

    Doesn’t matter though.

    Skills don’t make your limbs move faster.

  • LakeShow

    Let’s see your top 10 SF’s

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    we can look at his production by position. along with his team defense (by looking at the Rockets as a team, you can pretty much prove that I’m wrong about Parson and the “trainwreck” part, but you don’t like those, so sure buddy). Gain a pretty good picture that Parsons is not terrible like I said. But not specifically good either.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    James – Durant – George – Melo – Batum – Pierce – Gay – Leonard – Parsons – Deng
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    Gallinari – J. Butler – H. Barnes would be the next probably.

  • Hingle MaCringleberry

    Because he’s white? Right?

  • TR

    Rudy Gay is pretty garbage…I’d probably switch him with Deng IMO

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    in what way is he garbage? he’s paid too much? he’s the best player on a terrible team?
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    those two things don’t make him garbage.

  • spit hot fiyah

    i like the guy, i’m obviously not as high on him as you though.

    he shoots extremely well from the corners and gets lay ups. and gives u almost nothing else on offense. deng and pierce do a lot of damage in the mid range. Gallo and batum could be considered more versatile on offense even though i’m not high at all on batum. gallo is a much better passer though

    iggy does so many things, he is one of the best all around player sin the league. smith looks lazy and might be past his peak but is better at what he does best imo than what parsons is at what he does best.

    Gay can create his own shot and take and make game winners. even though i’m not on the rudy bandwagon, if there even is one.

    if we are talking going forward then it’s a different story and then we can also start throwing in some other names. (gordon hayward)

  • spit hot fiyah

    igoudala for sure

  • LakeShow

    What does that mean?

    I’m so confused… what is going on around here…

  • TR

    From what I’ve seen over the years is a talented guy who isn’t that efficient on offense and doesnt make his teammates better in anyway

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    whoops! lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well the Raptors went 17-16 with Rudy Gay on the roster. And were 34-48 on the season……

  • TR

    And the Grizzlies still went to the conference finals….

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah? that doesn’t make Rudy Gay garbage either. That’s like saying “Michael Jordan is garbage because Chicago still won 55 games the season he retired” — it’s a great side note and everything, but it doesn’t prove anything.

  • LakeShow

    That’s a solid list.

    Obviously Iggy, is somewhere in the 5-8 area.

    Two complaints, Gay and Pierce.

    Pierce is 35+ he is not better than Parson’s now.

    I do think Gay has proved himself to be a gunner/shot jacker as of lately, and a bad defender.

    These things that don’t bode well for a team’s best player.

    While he might be “better” in regards to talent, he, imo, would not be better for the Rockets than Parsons is. And while Parsons can’t do what he can offensively, he is more controlled and a better defender which makes him the better player to me.

    Batum and Leonard to me are highly arguable as being certifiably better, but not worth wasting words like some would love to think.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    why is Pierce not better? saying it is just saying it. i am not saying you are definitely wrong. but i need actual reasoning outside of Pierce’s age. Especially considering Pierce was so much better than Parsons last season. And his role just got a lot easier.

  • Dfrance

    Yup, because he’s white. Has nothing to do with his overall douchey, look at me demeanor.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Gay made Toronto better. Sh*t, they were above .500 with him. I agree, Gay is not a better defender, definitely not better on the ball. But he does help at a higher level (i value Parson’s defensive skillset more). On Offense, really Parson’s has not proven to be anything special. I don’t know why watching him shoot 15 shots a game in the playoffs convinced you he was so good. Because he really, wasn’t even that good doing that. Infact, he was worse than he was in the regular season, efficiency wise.

  • TR

    Hmmm, I dont think thats what I was saying, but sure…And the Raptors last 5 games of the season were wins against playoff teams..2 against the Bull without Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson…One against the Hawks, no Horford and limited minutes for J-Smoove…and The Celtics with no Garnett and limited minutes for Pierce and Green. They did beat a full Nets squad though…so I guess those are all very impressive wins thanks to Rudy Gay

  • LakeShow

    Why are you bringing up the playoffs and correlating me liking Parson’s game and him shooting 15 shots a game in the playoffs… What does that even mean?

    He had a nice post season anyway…

    Nothing to rag on about 18 – 7 – 4 on 45% and 40%

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what are you trying to prove by saying that then? the reason(s) Memphis improved after Rudy Gay left are not about Rudy Gay being a bad player. It’s about need. They got rid of a skillset they didn’t particularly need. For one they did.
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    Gay made Toronto considerably better. Was about a 20PPG scorer for them. And for them, he was more efficient than Chandler Parsons has ever proven to be. Regular season, or playoffs.

  • TR

    Dude you brought up wins, they were 12-16 before those last 5 Ws…Which you would have to admit weren’t that impressive. And he dropped 20 a game on probably sub 45% shooting

  • LakeShow

    Pierce may still be a better player, but he won’t be proving it anymore on the Net’s is my point.

    He is going to be a 14 – 4 – 4 on 45% (My gander anyway) guy next year. Which is solid, but Parson’s is looking to improve on his last season which was better than what i’m expecting Pierce to do next.

    My reasoning make sense?

    I mean you can still call Pierce better, and you won’t be wrong, he just isn’t going to have a a better individual season next year.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the playoffs is when you started talking about Parsons as among the better SF’s in the league. seemed to be related. Considering in the regular season he was just average.
    .
    Yes, 18 – 7 – 4, on 15.5 shots, and 40 minutes, most of them at Power Foward. Basic stats are nice and everything, but they totally ignore context. That’s why his PER in the playoffs was 13.5, his basic stats don’t really tell a good story.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Chandler Parsons projected stats for next season per Basketball-Reference

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    14 – 5 – 3 on 48%

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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parsoch01.html

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    Paul Pierce’s projected stats….

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/piercpa01.html

    - just saying.

  • LakeShow

    Paul Pierce had a 10.6 PER….. Yikes…

    :/

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yes, he’s the best player on the Raptors. And the only dude other teams focus on. His efficiency is not going to be great. Kind of the whole purpose of looking at situations and not just stats. HIs team record wasn’t great, but 12-16 (if you really want to just erase the last 5 games) is still much better than 17-32.

  • LakeShow

    LOL

    I think you’re joking…. RIGHT?

    Just say all you want, but it’s a crock of horse sh*t to think Pierce is going to be a 20ppg scorer next year…

    LMAO!

    I had no idea those projected stats BS was actually carried with some weight by some people… lol… please be joking…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yep…. and 19.1 in the regular season
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    .
    oh hey look at that, he’s not the only good offensive player on his team this season…..
    .
    presumably, he will be a lot closer to that 19.1 PER than the 10.6. Especially if you look at, oh say, every single year of his career….

  • Dfrance

    In short, I think he’s a d-bag. lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i didn’t say i think Pierce will be a 20PPG scorer. Just showing you the projections (which actually have a formula, and are generally more accurate than guesswork).
    .
    But Pierce will be the Nets leading scorer in all likelihood. 17-19 PPG is probably a very safe bet.

  • LakeShow

    What is with you and just outright lying today…

    Parsons

    TS%: 58%
    EFG%: 57%
    FG%: 49%
    3PT%: 39%

    Gay

    TS%: 51%
    EFG%: 46%
    FG%: 42%
    3PT%: 32%

  • TR

    Garbage may have been a strong word…i guess garbage pertains more to the Austin Daye’s of the world, but Rudy Gay, for his talent to is an underachiever if I ever saw one.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    for his talent. for his contract.
    .
    those two things are about what he is compared to what he could be. they aren’t at all related to how good he is compared to how good other’s are.
    .
    this is a pet peeve of mine. judging a player in terms of where he fits in the league, compared to where he should be. and penalizing him for it.

  • LakeShow

    No, it’s not a safe bet.

    The formula is basing it off their previous season and Parsons is a sophomore and Piecre is a Hall of Famer.

    It should be Lopez at around 18ppg, then Williams at 17ppg then Pierce at 15ppg.

    He’s going to play around 30mpg.

    He’s turning 36 next month and they have a couple players to spell time for him.

    He’s not going to have to major output you think he will, I promise you that.

  • LakeShow

    Don’t feel bad using too strong of words or phrases.

    That’s nbk’s main thing.

    He’ll call Parson’s a “train wreck” defensively and then admit to him being a pretty solid defender moments later.

  • TR

    Garbage may be a strong adjective. I guess its more like…Rudy Gay is garbage for how good I think he could’ve been

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    there is more to efficiency than shooting. for the 10 thousandth time.

    -

    I was talking about overall efficiency.

    Rudy Gay PER – 17.6
    Chandler Parsons PER – 15.5
    .
    The main difference that separates them, is Rudy Gay getting to the FT Line, and making a higher % of them. Plus the defensive numbers he puts up that make up for his turnovers/lower FG %

  • LakeShow

    DUDE… stop….

    15.3 is Parsons regular season PER.

    For his place on his team, that is very typical and actually quite nice.

    Rudy Gay had the same PER last year.
    Leonard 1 point more on his PER.
    Batum is the same.
    Iggy… You’ll never guess….. THE f*cking exact same!!!!!

    So we should judge Parsons based upon his PER, and not his very nice opening playoff games of his career, but not judge Pierce on his 10th plus time being there… Got it man.

    You’re incredible….

  • LakeShow

    All I wanted to know haha!
    He probably is.

  • LakeShow

    No GAY: 15.6 PER…

    The exact f*cking same….

    STOP LYING.

    What defensive #’s does Rudy Gay put up that make him better?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    wow, way to take something to the most extreme position you can.
    .
    i never said Rudy Gay’s PER makes him better than Chandler Parsons. I never said anyone’s PER made anyone better than anyone else. Just used it to show who was a more efficient overall player.
    .
    i showed Chandler Parson’s playoff PER to show that his basic stats are a product of increased minutes/attempts/usage. Not a result of higher performance.
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    That’s it.
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    And 15.3 is 0.3 points above average. If “solid = average” then, yup. But as i’ve always said, PER doesn’t paint the whole story. It’s basically an offensive stat that uses defensive statistics to try and show offensive impact (Defensive Rebounds / Blocks / Steals – lead to offensive possessions).

  • LakeShow

    “Basic stats are nice and everything, but they totally ignore context. That’s why his PER in the playoffs was 13.5, his basic stats don’t really tell a good story.”

    What was that paragraph for?
    To down play the importance of PER?

    Your like a flip flopping politician right now…

    We should just start calling you John Kerry.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Read better……

    “Gay made Toronto considerably better. Was about a 20PPG scorer for them. And for them, he was more efficient than Chandler Parsons has ever proven to be”

    .
    Rudy Gay’s PER in Toronto = 17.6

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Steals / Blocks, i am not saying he’s a better defender (he’s only a better defender off the ball…worse on it), just those stats make up for the efficiency defense on the shooting end.

  • LakeShow

    Oh those “useless” stats…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    “what was that paragraph for?”

    “i showed Chandler Parson’s playoff PER to show that his basic stats are a product of increased minutes/attempts/usage. Not a result of higher performance.”

    .
    Just read numb nuts.

  • LakeShow

    Just watch numb nuts.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    good one.

  • LakeShow

    I learn from the bestest.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it must be really frustrating when people admit to being wrong. much better if everyone get’s all defensive when people don’t agree with them…right?

  • LakeShow

    Wait, your admitting to being wrong? About what?

    So you actually thought Parsons was a terrible defender when you first came on here?

    Dude you gotta watch some games, it’s pretty obvious Parsons is a good defender.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i know he’s not terrible. lol, i was wrong for saying he was a trainwreck. which i said, literally, 10 minutes after i posted that first dumb comment.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    only useless when someone says, “player A is a better defender because (Blocks/Steals) than player B” – which i would hope you agree with.

  • LakeShow

    Duh

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well lol, what’s the problem with calling them useless in those situations?

  • davidR

    must be a slow day at work

  • http://h2hoops.wordpress.com/ Habeeba Husain

    Comment party up in this post, dang.

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