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Friday, September 6th, 2013 at 11:55 am  |  74 responses

Hakeem Olajuwon Says Kevin Durant, Blake Griffin Need His Low Post Training (VIDEO)

Having helped to refine the post games of some of the best players in the NBA, Hakeem Olajuwon quite reasonably believes he could help take Kevin Durant and Blake Griffin’s games to the next level. In a conversation with Nice Kicks about his new sneaker venture, The Dream also praised two of his superstar disciples, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James.

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  • vINSANITY

    Imagine for a minute if KD could be KG in the post…

  • RKJ92

    KD would need to add another 20 pounds man, KG is 255 I know he doesn’t look like it but dude is just pure muscle, I think KD would need to add more muscle before he’s even touching what KG could do in the post, he’s a banger. I like KD learning the footwork from Hakeem though that’s a good look.. should help him lose defenders off their position, and draw easier fouls, or just go right over them out of position with his length.

  • Dagger

    You know, there are other ways of acquiring a post game than to train with Hakeem. Dream was the best to ever do it in the league, but there’s more to teaching a skill than your own mastery of that skill. If Blake in particular worked on his post game with coaches, he might learn as much as he would with Olajuwon.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    nah, man. everyone in the league will be doing dream shakes if Hakeem has any say.

  • berkamore

    Man, if KD could add 20 pounds like you said without losing any quickness and learned to play in the post…………..Maaaaaan.

    It would not even be fair. LOL.

  • SM25

    You’re right, KD does need to get stronger. I mean, goodness, LeBron’s an inch or 2 shorter than him and KD has like a 3 inch longer wingspan, and LeBron was averaging 4 more rpg in that 2012 series. Of course that’s in part thanks to LeBron’s vertical, but it’s mostly because of LeBron’s ability to manhandle him in the paint. These are the two teams that we’ll probably see the most of in the Finals going forward, so he’s gonna need to get stronger, because they’re not gonna win if LeBron’s averaging 4 more rpg in a series than him, especially when they both average about 8 a game every year.

  • Hockbob

    hey hakeem i think u should worrie about working with dwight howard.hes the one who needs help.youll all see that other then reb and free dunks he has the game and footwork of a donkey!!!good luck..#golakers!!!!

  • Cortez Mack

    I was thinking the exact same thing while reading this article. I do not know if he is a good teacher or not but after watching his online videos with various NBA’ers over the years, I have not seen him do anything different than any of the great coaches I have seen or worked with over the years.

    However, there is something be said for the psychological impact of having an established expert instruct you.

  • berkamore

    You are right. Cats should do their own research and look at ALL the low post styles of play that are out there.

    Then they can start creating, developing their own style. Whatever feels natural is what you want to go with. Now if copying Hakeem is what you like, go for it but it’s better to develop your own style.

    After all, Hakeem himself developed his own style………..

  • LakeShow

    It would bode well for anyone to work with Hakeem, but naw, they don’t NEED him.

    Any solid post fundamentalist that is a good teacher and anyone who can soak up information and be willing to listen and apply it to their game, can take their post game to the next level.

  • http://h2hoops.wordpress.com/ Habeeba Husain

    In regards to the first 5 and some minutes of this video: ooo ~fancy~ Italian leather!

  • spit hot fiyah

    wouldn’t be fair

  • bike

    The key is motivation, not necessarily instruction. Any top tier nba player that’s willing to work on it can develop low post moves w/ or w/out instruction. But the low post game has been fading for years. You rarely see HS kids w/ much in the way of low post moves. Even the big kids want to play the perimeter and run the floor like KD these days.

    Almost seems like it’s just not cool anymore.

  • i_ball

    The big problem with post players is that they lack fundamentals coming in the NBA. And when they decide to start really developing their post game it’s already too late (Amare, DH…).

    If a player has the fundamentals set in High School and college he can easily progress fast if he is motivated, especially with the resources an NBA team can offer.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i don’t know why Hakeem thinks he’s the only post player in history to understand the concept of counter moves. Because really, that’s what he teaches. He teaches other player’s to use the counter moves he did while in the league. (which also took place in an NBA where defenses were totally different, and he had a ton more room to operate).

  • bike

    The college game doesn’t help either. The low post game consists of passing the ball down low, the defense collapses around the post player, post player passes to open perimeter player for a 3-pt attempt. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

    The only skills a college post player needs is being able to pass well out of the block.

  • shutup

    Kevin McHale is the best post player that has ever played in the league, not saying he was better then Olajuwan as a player, he just had more weapons on the block. 1. McHale 2. Olajuwan 3. Adrian Dantley, thats my trifecta….followed by Cap and Shaq

  • LakeShow

    And he’s got both of them in his ear and on his court.

    Dwight better turn into a 25ppg guy or else he will always be branded “could have been” offensively.

  • shutup

    Personally not a fan of Howard, but hopefully he can realize his potential, he has had a decent career thus far, is it really wrong to expect more from him though?

  • LakeShow

    Co-Sign

  • 23

    I think he’s going more towards the Dirk postgame

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    Kudos on the Adrian Dantley reference! The man was a 6’5 forward who posted up small forwards and power forwards at will. And what’s most impressive is that he didn’t have Kareem’s reach advantage. He didn’t have Dream’s explosive first step. He didn’t have Blake’s hops. What he did have was a wet midrange jumper that he created space for with an array of pumpfakes.

    For those of you too young to remember, imagine a 6’5 post player with the athletic abilty and build of a David West who was dropping 30+ ppg for mutiple seasons on 54% fg. The man was an inspiration for every “tweener” out there!

  • TR

    You dont think there is a little more room now with all the 3-point shooters and how spread the floor is? JW

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Nope. Not with them getting rid of illegal defense (and analytics showing teams how to play defense to force teams into the REAL worst shots). You know about how that rule worked or you need me to post stuff about it?

  • Ugh

    Shaq and Kareem were a better post player than Wilt? Yikes.

  • TR

    I can look it up…when I was a kid i had the definition of illegal D on lock, but now i really cant remember what it was.

  • shutup

    If you take into account the competition that Wilt played against, yes I think Kareem and Shaq had more post moves, not to take away from Wilt, I think he’s in the top 3 all-time players and he’s would probably be next on my list of post players tied with Tim Duncan.

  • shutup

    Another reason why I love Charles Barkley (being undersized at the PF), that and his I wanna k!ll everybody on the court attitude.

  • TR
  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    right? it’s pretty crazy how drastically different the NBA was played in the 90s. Don’t tell anyone, but Michael Jordan benefitted from this rule so perfectly it’s a little suspect they didn’t change it sooner.
    .
    Of the 10 championships in the 90s
    – 8 were won by the best one on one player in the league…..

  • Ugh

    Oh God, the “competition” argument again. Never mind that “punching fouls” weren’t called in the NBA in the 60s and that he played five nights in a row while travelling by bus. Also, have you ever looked at what Bill Russell’s defensive winshares rating was?

    Anyway, I don’t understand how someone who plays only in the post can be a worse “post player” but better “overall player” than someone else who played only in the post. That’s terrible logic.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    dude, he’s talking about post moves.

  • Hingle MaCringleberry

    The reason Adrian was such a great post player is because of his big poochy ass.

  • NAS

    I hope he didn’t invest any of his own money in this because this venture is not going to end well

  • berkamore

    And when AD scored 30, his line would read something like 7-10 fg and 16-18 FT.

    AD averaged 24.3 ppg during his career on only 16 field goal attempts per game.

    Love it. That’s called skill…………

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    LOL yeah that too.

  • Junior Taylor

    I love the Dream but we all know he is saying this just to make more money. Trust me, coming from one Nigerian, I know how we think.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    pretty crazy that he’s created this niche market for himself. He gets these guys for 2 weeks. They pay more than an assistant coach gets for a whole season on average (<– fact) — and for some reason, nobody has figured out that he doesn't have access to anything that can't be learned elsewhere. he just has the most success using it.

  • mike

    its kinda interesting how he is seemingly doing the exact opposite of what he did with spalding. But it def does look like quality products

  • berkamore

    Word is (and it’s only rumors) as I don’t have access to Hakeem’s financials that it was rumoured that he had a large portfolio of businesses and made a killing years back in Houston’s real estate (rumour is it was tens of millions), so if it is true, this is not gonna make or break him.

    My guess, he doesn’t even have any money in that clothing line. He just licenses his likeness/name and takes a cut of sales, around 7-10%. Again, I don’t know the details but that’s usually the way those deals are structured. (Even major clothing labels like Calvin Klein make their money that way. Use the name, give me a cut). But I am just speculating here……………

  • shutup

    The competition element comes in when you have to consider “Did Wilt ever have to counter his move?” I don’t believe in the look at his competition in overall legacy, because one can only be judged according to their peers in that aspect. But Wilt’s stature and athleticism put him a cut above every one of his contemporaries, thus negating the need for extremely polished footwork or a counter move. Not saying if that Wilt was born in this era he wouldn’t have developed them out of necessity, but he was an apex predator in his day and he didn’t need some of the tools that are present in any of the aforementioned players.

    He can be a lesser post player but his impact on the game is greater. It’s only terrible logic if you read with blinders on. Wilt is second or third to only MJ and Kareem (I switch between Wilt and KAJ as my 2nd overall). I never used the words worse, all six of the players I mentioned are at the top of a long list of players that have played in the post.

  • Matisse

    The rule reversal on the illegal defense is the reason why we witnessed such a fantastic Finals this year. Both teams played smart fluid efficient offence and two brands of stifling defense. Which resulted in a near perfect game of 4 turnovers in game one.

  • Paul Headley

    I love how confident people are when discussing the relative merits of Wilt Chamberlains game, given the fact that most guys on this site would be too young to have seen him play ( thus, like me, have to base all their information on second hand tales and a few scattered highlights.)
    As far as Dream goes, i’m with NBK and anyone else who thinks this is nothing more than a nifty moneymaker for him. Good for him.

  • raylikenoother

    As the Dream could use some of their money

  • Sergio

    Amare? Ok, he doesent have a great back to the basket game. But, when he was healthy, he was, arguably, the best scoring big in the league.

  • JL

    What stands between DH and 25ppg isn’t post moves, it’s making FTs and passing. Shaq did it without hitting his FTs, but he was also better at post moves… ok I guess i talked myself into it. DH needs post moves to be like his idol.

  • JL

    Haha. Everyone wants to make money man. It’s a universal thing. Marketing his brand isn’t a bad thing.

  • JL

    That’s been ongoing for a long time already. It’s gotta be tied in with the phenomenon where it’s easier to market guards and the shorter players. Guys don’t connect with big men. And kids growing up were all short at one point. I think they might think well if I don’t grow tall I still got these dribble moves, and don’t do the post game.

  • JL

    Who are you to say it’s not going to end well? You have some kind of proof? And berkamore speaks the truth.

  • JL

    If KD can get KG’s physique and post game… dare I say it, he could be closer to be on par with Lebron. I mean, KG shoots fadeaways in the post, but if KD can up his FG% even more, then he would be closer in the best player argument.

  • JL

    Yeah, Amare at least has a OK jumper. But yeah, his post game is just cutting and dunking.

  • JL

    Not alot of players can do that effectively either though.

  • airrmedia

    Hakeem Olajuwon is a great teacher and I think that Blake Griffin can really flourish under his coaching.

  • Uchi Nwike

    Tell the full story. Nigerians are shiesty, hustling, get overs who try their hardest to cheat ppl out of money. Btw, that explains YOUR FACE!!hahahaha

  • Caboose

    I worry Dwight is starting to go the set of someone like Chris Webber. Awesome talent, some incredible and memorable seasons, but never quite pushed to the level we expected

  • initbruv

    This is an argument between someone called ugh and someone called shutup. lol

  • http://www.rich-imaging.com/ Dutch Rich

    Thanks for sharing that.

  • http://twitter.com/Ron_Swanson_ Rummy389

    You don’t say????

  • Evan Boland

    Doubt we will be seeing much more MIA in the finals.

  • danpowers

    i dont think that you compare them in any way. injuries unfortunately kept webbers prime too short and howard is not what i would call injury prone. besides that webber had a broader skill set, nice passing game, more versatile scorer, etc while howard is a force of nature with a raw post game.

  • Saleem Rainman

    He’d lucky to be remembered as talented (even half as talented offensively) as a Chris Webber.

  • Saleem Rainman

    yh not a great comparison at all

  • straight cake

    KD’s post game needs to be more like Melo’s and not KG’s considering they play similar positions.

  • straight cake

    Micheal Jordan would have dominated the NBA regardless of a specific rule, its kind of shortsighted to suggest he benefited from anything but his hard work ethic and of course his great teams during those runs.

  • straight cake

    You would rather have a regular coach teaching you post moves other than 2 time NBA champion Hakeem Olajuwon…okay then that makes no sense.

  • Tony Taylor

    Everybody is gonna start dream shaking pretty soon

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Sure it is. Nobody said he wouldn’t have been great. It just would have been different.

  • JL

    That would be sweet since Melo’s post game is better than KG’s I think. KG did more turnaround fadeaways than a real post game. However I agreed to KG’s post game since KD is too skinny to power people, like KG is. KD would kill himself trying to bully even SFs.

  • LakeShow

    Funny thing is, Bird is more skilled, and the much, much, better player, but needed 3 more FGA to get to the same amount of points….

  • LakeShow

    And you just got in it bruv. initbruv, ehh? Yeah?

  • initbruv

    Touche Lakeshow. Touche.

  • CUD

    Amen to that. Experienced working with some of em. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying all of them! Hopefully not, but yeah this scumbags I’ve worked with! They try to hustle, boss around people, lazy mothafuckas. Complains alot too.

  • CUD

    Man, we all know both KD and specially Blake because he’s a PF, needs to work on their post moves, but why isn’t Hakeem talking about this two dude’s teammates who plays starting centers for their teams? We all know DeAndre Jordan and Ibaka needs to work on those post moves because they are the ones who’re supposed to be playing in the posts! Oh and please, God forsaken Dwight aswell..

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