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Tuesday, February 5th, 2008 at 8:59 pm  |  135 responses

Shaq Being Traded To Phoenix?

by Lang Whitaker

I guess the Suns feel they’re not slow enough, because they’re reportedly talking about moving Shawn Marion for The Diesel. Wouldn’t it be fitting if the West came down to Shaq vs. Kobe again?

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  • Phila

    haha

  • buddy

    ?????? first

  • buddy

    DANG

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    hahaa just sent Russ a message about this thinking WTF it had to be wrong. And Shaq playing alongside Amare and Nash just seems weird! Bet Raja and Shaq could swap some stories though. hhaah

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    I think the Lakers front line of doom would have a HARD time with Old Shaq and New STAT.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    could you imagine? Kobe not getting out of the 1st round because of Shaq AND Phx? damn, that would be rough.

  • http://slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    Rough, but also hilarious.

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    Lang is very mean spirited.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    Did you see the Hawks game last night, Lang?

  • Reggie Evans

    Where’s the punchline? Shaq is washed up. Andrew Bynum will destroy him.

  • http://slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    Most of it…I was in Atlanta but couldn’t get to the game so I watched on TV. Rise up, Hawks!

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    I don’t know, but the Suns would seem to be terribly competitive, regardless of the pace change. Nash could at least figure out how to get his big ass the ball.

  • http://slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    BTW, Miami might be nice with Marion and Wade…

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    This would be way more big if it was 5 years ago, but a change of scenary might be just what the doctor ordered to get Shaq a tad more motivated.

  • namik

    Do it please!!! With all the pouting and b*tching that Shaq is gonna do about minutes, touches and everything else under the sun, he’s gonna make Shawn Marion look like Kevin Johnson. Plus Kobe would foul him out by himself like christmas in 2005. And that was when Shaq could move and jump.

  • Reggie Evans

    Who’s afraid of the big bad washed up Shaq?

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    Might is a funny word Lang. I don’t know how long nice would take to form, though. A couple of seasons, for sure.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    Marion and Wade… I see lots of dunks. It would be fun. At least more fun than Shaq has been. Are they still talking of Marion and Diaw in the deal? I’m too lazy to click the link.

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    Marion and Banks, Holly.

  • namik

    Unless Nash can figure out how to get Shaq a pair of new legs, I highly doubt getting him the ball will do much good. Plus they loose a good perimeter defender who can guard 1-4 and despite his complaining, plays hard. Shaq doesn’t usually play hard, but if he starts complaining, he stops playing completely. Miami fans should be happy about this though.

  • Captain America

    Is Steve Kerr still hung over from the Super Bowl? How stupid is this…

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    yes, laker ball movement. Lang, I missed the Hawks game but Smith’s line? Crazy! What’s the deal on these attitude problems that have been mentioned all day around here? anything legit or just the usual?

  • http://slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    You kids talk it out…I’m working on Lakers/Nets game notes. Back to the TV…

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    ohh Banks. I’d like to see him somewhere other than Phx where he can try to get some burn. I always thought he’d be decent. And, then GP went and messed that up for us.

  • Reggie Evans

    So, can we do some retrospection and decide that Shaq was the real cancer in the Lakers locker room?

  • http://slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    @Holly: That’s people talking who don’t know what they’re talking about.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    Oh Lang, you and Ben have just made my night. ps… Kobe’s block on Kidd was pretty nicee, hey?

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    Thanks, Lang. I figured as much but, thought I’d ask.

  • namik

    Reggie when was that in doubt?

  • http://Slamonline Walter Olivera

    IF they make this deal, they will struggle at first,BUT later they will make A MAGICAL RUN ALL THE WAY TO THE CHAMPIOSHIP.SHAQ + STAT or
    BYNUM+ GASOL, SUNS WILL SCORCH LA

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    wait… are you telling me the suns would have to give up MORE than just marion to get shaq? and you are telling me the heat wouldn’t have to send any other picks or players to phoenix?

    if i was phoenix and i was trading marion for shaq, i would want the heat to throw their pick this year in the deal so i can draft derrick rose too.

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    Who are these late night baboons?

  • peteb80

    Come on now, this won’t happen.

  • FLUXLAND

    @Holly.. you know you typed “was pretty nice, eh?” and then went back and changed it to hey..lol.. c’mon.. you know you did!

  • vmcb

    This is rediculous. As a suns fan, I’m not sure how feel about this.

    Initially.. the feeling was bad… very very bad. Now it’ s just bad.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    haahha, Flux! I really didn’t but, I guess it’s pretty much the same thing isn’t it.

    I’m just waiting for people to analyze KObe’s sprained finger and compare it to Brons. Brace yourselves!

  • peteb80

    Shaq can’t even reach mid-court in 7 seconds.

  • Dacre

    It’s just not going to work…. Marion is surely better suited to the PHX suns offense… What can Shaq actually offer these days? Diaw defends centres better and he switches OFF in-game. Thats a mindset the suns DON’t Need… they are looking to go to the finals…not bow out in the 1st round.

  • 503305

    phoenix will be out in the first round before shaq can reach halfcourt. if this deal will push through i think it is almost certain dallas will make a move. i just don’t see mark cuban sitting out this western one-upping.

  • http://myspace.com/bodiebarnett jbn74sb

    If the Suns pull this move, they will be assured of getting dusted by whomever they play in the first round. Let it happen. At this point, I wouldn’t trade Brian Skinner for Shaq.

  • RV

    i guess they’re getting desperate, they know nash the MVP is done in a yr or two (after that he may play but not at the same level), and shaq will prob be done by then too. They prob dont want to resign Marion so might as well get something, make a run for a yr or two, and then rebuild..

  • http://tadone.blogspot.com TADOne

    Marion wants out anyway and Banks has been a bust of sorts in PHX. Shaq with Amare next to him and Nash feeding the ball could be a good remedy for the big fella.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dacre

    The THING is that Shaq can’t get the ball in the basket anymore…certainly his selection of moves are halted by either strong/young centres in the league or the officials that put the whistle away when he makes a move – Sure if Marion wants to go lets look for some options…but you don’t take Shaq for Marion AND another roster player… you can get a way better deal than out there… I moved Marion on NBALive 06, it can be done properly.

  • http://suns.planetorange.net Dacre

    What’s Marion thinking – He needs to just settle down. He’s playing well for the Suns, they have a great chance this year. This will be the year they get over the Spurs in the Western Conf finals and get to the NBA Finals…

    And Shaq can watch from home…in Florida.

  • tike

    WOW theres no way that trade is going down no way so just keep dreaming people

  • http://basketball.org.nz Tim Dennis

    PHX will get slower and slower with shaq and the heat will get alot with banks.if the suns get heats 1st round pick then it will be understandable

  • 503305

    gasol having 20 and 10 performance so far on kobe’s offnight. wow! i think if this indeed go through phoenix will need more than amare, nash and shaq to put the lakers out.

  • Captain America

    Banks has been a bust everywhere he’s been. The more burn he gets the more bricks he lays.

  • http://suns.planetorange.net Dacre

    Wouldn’t the Heat try and restrict or have an option on the draft pick?!…Could you imagine the Suns with 1 top 3 draft pick next year?! The Heat wouldnt give that pick away…they NEED it bad.

  • 503305

    i think an elton brand for shawn marion straight up trade is much better. i can’t imagine phoenix doing this. they don’t want to extend marion but they are willing to take shaq and the 2 years left in his contract after this year. absurd!!!!!!

    they should have traded marion for picks and young stud in the offseason and retain thomas. besides thomas is a much better defender than shaq at this point.

  • Bryant Reeves

    absolutely absurd. I bet whoever started this ridiculous rumor is laughing his @ss off right now.

  • 503305

    @ Bryant Reeves i think it is more than rumor. heat apparently told shaq to get ready for possible trade.

    maybe heat are just generating buzz to increase shaq’s trade value. this will be bad for phoenix shaq is owed 40Mil the next 2 years and his health is a big question mark. trade marion to hawks for josh smith and some players.

  • Bubbachuck

    lmao @ shaq, stat, grant hill, barbosa & nash

  • jay

    bad panic move, cmonnn steve kerr you are better than that.

  • ROB

    PHOENIX IS DUMB IF THEY TRADE SHAWN MARION FOR SHAQ.!

  • jose

    i thought miami traded this years pick for davis?no?

  • http://WWW.TheConverseBlog.com James

    YES! I Love Shaq, but 20 Million off the cap would sure speed up the forgetting of this awful season. If Marion opts out that is.

  • Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Suns are done. Shaq is too old to tilt the power of the league.

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    In the words of the great Hunter S. Thompson, “This is like trading a $100 bill for an old mattress…”

  • miamifan

    i dont think this is happening shaq is done and miami still needs a low post presence but you never know what could happen

  • http://suns.planetorange.net Dacre

    This is like trading a street level carpark outside madison square garden for a box of fresh krispy kremes.

  • http://suns.planetorange.net Dacre

    no one wins. Not the guy who has to sit through horrible Knick home games…and not the guy that lets a dozen donuts go straight to hips stomach and arteries.

  • tony knorr

    marion needs to smarten the f*** up and realize that he is already playing for a contender that is led by the most unselfish pass happy point gaurd in the league what does he think that he would get more shots somewhere else. HA! good luck every other team in the L takes 123 less shots a game than the suns therefore his opportunity for shots and offensive boards goes way down.

  • ck

    This may not look so spectacular on paper for PHX, but come playoffs, we’ll all see Shaq’s effectiveness on the D-side. He can still take 3/4 of the middle’s space and that should be enough to minimize the scoring of the other Big men of the west (Duncan, Bynum-Pau), and let Nash and Co. sprint their butts out on the offense. Just expect a less flashy PHX though…

  • RV

    i also think Shaq may also wake the f*ck up if he gets traded to Phoenix. shaq basically quit on the Heat since last yr when he realized they were going to get it done again, and this year, after losing Posey, GP, Kapono,etc., he definitely knew they sucked. He was ready to roll over and just finish his contract, but in Phoenix he’ll see what great opportunity it is to win again and take a lot of the credit again.

  • Reggie Evans

    I seriously worry that Shaq will try to hurt Kobe after Kobe dunks on his carcass.

  • Reggie Evans

    If Marion goes to the East, the Heat will make the playoffs

  • Donn

    I thinks it’s a good trade for both teams….

  • http://firemitchkupchak.com Reggie Evans

    What the hell is Steve Kerr thinking? Did Sarver force this move?

  • JpT

    i want shaq in suns jersey! im so excited! yeah baby!

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Shaq might wake up, but he won’t get any younger. This would be The Big Mistake for Phoenix in every possible sense.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    They’d get slower, their rebounding would get worse, and so would their interior defense. Watching Shaq and Amare try and stay in front of guys would be like watching Andre the Giant fight Cary Elwes in “The Princess Bride.” Gasol and Bynum would eat them alive.

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  • mark grey

    dog shaq suck now its all about the lakers kobe gasol odom and bynum champions pimp

  • sammy c

    a mentor and a solid inside offesnsive and defensive player is just what the suns need.

  • Logan

    this is going to be interesting….good trade for the Heat though!

  • Logan

    David Stern is behind all of this….a genius….this XMas day the lakers played the suns right? imagine the ratings on the Xmas day game if Shaq is on the Suns!!! ..heh

  • http://www.insidehoops.com InsideHoops

    First

    Bad deal for the Suns

  • http://www.insidehoops.com InsideHoops

    First.

    Bad deal for the Suns

  • Shu

    pending the physical, it’s approved, per Y! sports.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ApScASJmu7._sdVceoz3s3m8vLYF?slug=jy-shaqdeal020508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    are they really in panic mode because LAL traded for Pau?

  • http://www.friendster.com/sesa Sesa

    Ugh!

  • Shu

    This might be a hoax so that the national media stops talking about the Giants and Pats.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    holy shoot.. apparently a done deal.

  • Young Chris #3

    I don’t know. Diaw would get more minutes with Marion gone, so they’d get rebounding from him. With Shaq there taking up room, Amare might average double-digit rebounds as well. Diesel still hit 58% of his shots this year, so he’s capable of putting the ball in the basket and with Grant Hill, Diaw, Raja Bell, Barbosa, Amare and Nash, they still can play the run-n-gun game sporadically. But that team has the talent to perform in the half-court as well. Grant Hill is still nice and smart as hell…

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    Id love to see Shaq ruin two teams in one season…

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    just fb’d you myles.

  • http://firemitchkupchak.com Reggie Evans

    Andre the Giant: “You’re quick!”

  • http://firemitchkupchak.com Reggie Evans

    @Myles and Holly: aren’t you on East coast time?

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    Im on Central. And I should be in bed. Lots to do, but I just cant stop laughing….

  • joe pine

    I think this is a great move. Marion is awesome, but pheonix was getting nowhere, in the playoffs without a presence in the middle. Amare is great, but is playing out of position. with shaq clogging the middle, amare playing his natural spot, and nash directing traffic, the suns will be the favs in the west now, for sure. well, see you in finals, boston.

  • Harry Pelotas

    Looks like Steve and Grant can kiss their chances of ever winning a title goodbye.

  • http://firemitchkupchak.com Reggie Evans

    Getting close to my bedtime. I’m actually a little worried about Shaq getting rejuvenated. But only a little.

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    Why? Does this trade come with a Doc Brown and a Delorean?

  • http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=346 hursty

    hell yeh, id pull the trigger for both teams. shaq can still be more effective (with stat as a 4) while marion only competes with wade as alpha male (instead of 3 guys), this also helps miami ‘rebuild’.

  • kulas

    20 mil for a big guy who routinely gets beat on pick and rolls, and is injured most of the time. Did phoenix just hit the panic button because of Gasol?

  • http://firemitchkupchak.com Reggie Evans

    I figure better Phoenix than Dallas. Shaq might have had more impact as Dampier’s replacement.

  • http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=346 hursty

    my comment was somewhat irrashional but it wont happen anyway.

  • kulas

    the Lakeshow trade has the western conference shook.

  • http://slamonline.com Ravi

    Jesus Christ, Kerr just ruined the Suns…

  • dj

    This is the worse deal.
    Ever.
    OF all time.

    Worse than trading Dr.J, or when the warriors traded wilt, or the bucks kareem, or the sixers barkley.

    WOrse than anything Isaiah has EVER done.

    Steve Kerr is Insane with a capital I.

    The suns are dead to me.

    This hurts.

  • dj

    Shaq (when he actually plays, once a month) CAN’T EVEN RUN PAST MIDCOURT!

    (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
    -for further emphasis

    I wouldn’t trade paul shirley for Shaq at this point (esp. with that contract of his).

  • dj

    It’s like trading in Jessica Alba for Britney Spears.

    Senseless, absolutely, painfully, senseless.
    I can’t get over it.

    Oh, the humanity.

  • peteb80

    Marion must really be a superannoying b1tch if they’re willing to trade him for the most expensive 14 and 8 ever. Considering he’s not even playing in half of the games, that’s basically a 7 and 4. Are you sure Kerr is not just trying to scare some sense into Marion and Riley wants to harass Shaq into a buyout?

  • mat smith

    coach d’antoni will let shaq just play the games and not wreck him in training like pat “1980″ riley, look at grant hill, he is in best shape since pistons, diaw will step up and replace marion, shaq will be a bench player just blocking up the post on defence. oh and marcus banks is in the deal too, bye marcus, thanks for nothing, suns will still be fast when shaq is on bench (barbosa) then play some half court when he is in (like against spurs)

  • http://www.phxsuns.net SwingMan

    Wow. I’m local here in AZ and the talking heads here say it’s a done deal – Shaq for Marion and Banks. It’s going to take a bit for the particulars to come about, but there’s talk of swapping picks in the deal as well: Us sending Atlanta’s pick to Miami, Miami sending their pick this year to PHX….. Again, wow. Can you say “Derrick Rose, Steve Nash’s understudy”? As a Suns fan, I can only hope that Shaq can throw a precise outlet pass…..

  • Slobodan Chutzpah

    This would obviously be the most retarded trade in NBA history… right after the Gasol trade. It is not “motivation” (and why, pray tell, should this thing called motivation be constantly coaxed out of a guy making north of $2o mil per year?), it is the fact that Shaq is old and weary and not getting any younger. Steve Kerr will adopt the title of “most boneheaded NBA GM” the minute he pulls the trigger on this one.

  • RedRum

    I think this could work actually… you don’t need 5 men to run on the fast break, 3-4 are enough. Actually most fastbreaks are run with 3, with the 4th being trailer. In half-court it could also work. Shaq still commands a double, which opens up space for the backcourt to hit open 3s. They can still run the nash-amare high-post pick n roll, with shaq opening up and coming in when helps comes for amare. I don’t see why people think this is retarded…

    I think the suns were most dangerous with kurt thomas as center. a motivated and happy shaq is a huge upgrade to thomas I reckon…

  • DIO

    Now that’s major move! Shaq motivated is a hole new story, who cares bout those damn legs…
    Marion too should be fine at South beach…

  • dj

    Shaq can’t command a double team if he’s hurt.

    And has anybody seriously watched him play recently? ONE 30 point game in 2 seasons. The guy trips over his own feet, throws wild shots off the backboard, and is about 50 pounds overweight by any standard.

    I don’t care how motivated Shaq is he’s old and the wear and tear from all those playoff runs has finally gotten to him. Centers like him don’t get any younger (See: Ewing, Patrick, Seattle/Orlando)

  • bates

    it wud be suicide for the suns
    bynum n gasol wud destroy the suns, who will have a small n slow front line.
    marion is actually a worthy all star(minus this year due to more impressive forwards) n shaq is a increasingly older n slower player

  • peteb80

    And no, the Heat won’t make the play-offs this year and they’d be dumb to even try.

  • http://www.INEED.ORG Tarzan Cooper

    hear that???? thats the suns title window slamming shut. they’re finished, steve kerr should slap himself. im sure amare and leandro are going to have fun in a couple years counting the pingpong balls.

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    I have no idea what’s going on.

  • D-Mac

    nicely said dj

  • http://www.jamariomoonshine.com Jimmy2k8

    Shaq is a cripple….Jamario released a preview of some possible dunks for the slam dunk contest. Lets see the Gaye man dunk from a foot behind the foul line like Jamario. Check out his dunks http://www.jamariomoonshine.com

  • peteb80

    Btw., do they make Phoenix uniforms in Shaq’s size?

  • http://www.INEED.ORG Tarzan Cooper

    i bet grant hill is fu(kin pissed.

  • http://slamonline.com Sam Rubenstein

    this “trade” is the best fictional story since the SPOILER ALERT!!! serial killer in Baltimore.

  • http://tadone.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    They actually finalized this?!?! This should be an interesting comments day.

  • Goody

    Oh My…

  • http://NBA.COM I Love The NBA

    i doubt it cause whos the better C think bout your not gonna put a *LEGEND* on shaq for amare on the bench so.. i dont think its gonna happen

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Please let it happen.

  • http://slamonline.com Sam Rubenstein

    even if this thing is somehow true… he still has to pass a physical. Not a guarantee. But wow Steve Kerr… uh… weird.

  • peteb80

    This will make or break Kerr’s career as a GM. The excitement!

  • http://slamonline.com DP

    It’s official, Shaq attack is now in the land of the Sun. Wow. The Suns look real sh*tty with this move. Miami is tryin to build but they need a young type Shaq. play wit it.

  • mister8

    What makes anybody think that the suns would win it this year? I love the suns, but that style of play is just not working in the play-offs, and everybody know this.
    If this will go down the Suns would slow it down some, plus you are forgetting Shaq is one of the best passing centers out there, he can find those 3-point shooters easy. Plus they wanted to get rid of Banks anyway, just like Marion. The only issue is Shaq’s health, but Phoenix has one of the better medical staff’s.

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    This is fuc*ing with my idea of having the #1 pick. and I think it was about 2 weeks a go when I typed on this very site that Shaq qas going to be moved and I was told I’m a moron. Per usual, it is all of you that are proved to be just that. Thanks for the title Shaq and good luck in Phoenix. Tell Pau as he lays in a crippled mess under your feet that the Spanish/American war had similar results.

  • http://slamonline.com polowthaJon

    too many big men on the baseline. there is no room for amare to do his thing, plus skinner loses playing time and shaq will injure himself by mid-march. bad trade.

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    Just to clarify for the morons who haven’t SEEN a Heat game with Shaq in the lineup this season, the biggest problem they had was NO ONE could get him the ball. When they did he was effective. In Phoenix I’m pretty sure Nash and Hlll can feed the post for easy baskets and Shaq can find open shooters all day long, something the Heat have none of at the moment and the Suns have plenty of. This will benefit the Suns, not hurt them. And Amare will be free to work from 15 feet in instead of starting on the block every play. Their interior D will get no worse, because come on, they did really scare anyone defensivley before? Marion is a good, rangy defender, but he’s not patrolling the lane like Dwight or Zo.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    eboy, even having barely seen a Heat game this season, I’m with you. Listen, dude is a shell of what he used to be, but he’s still a pretty imposing shell. He’s also clearly the kind of player who’s more motivated when his team is contending than when it’s not. Change of scenery and a legit chance to contend again will do him a WORLD of good. It won’t keep him healthy, but if he has some luck in that department, this could definitely work out for them. And it should be pretty clear to all of us by now that this Suns team was NOT going to win a damn thing. Prior to this trade, regardless of record, they might only be the fourth best team in the West.

  • http://tadone.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Question: Can Shaq actually pass a physical? I mean, with the hip problems and all it seems pretty impossible. Just saying.

  • http://whitehoteboysworld.blogspot.com white hot eboy

    I think he’s well enough to get by TAD.

  • http://suns.planetorange.net Dacre

    Heck you watch…all of a sudden he’ll be back ouyt there averaging 25 and 10 like John Salley did in that bball movie…

  • Sunswoopdalakers

    The lakers suck and Kobe is just a piece of …. Phoenix kill em’ without shaq and now if he is healthy in the playoffs Duncan gets dunked on and the suns win the Championship

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