Suns Shopping Diaw and Barbosa?

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• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 9:08 am
  Remember when Boris Diaw was actually relevant?

• memyselfand9 Posted: Jun.20 at 9:08 am
  what do the knicks have to offer tho?
  marbury? backing up nash? lol.
  that would be classic.

• Pro Posted: Jun.20 at 9:08 am
  First? Im pretty sure D’Antoni would love to have Barbosa in New York with him, I’m also pretty sure New York has a high draft pick…
  Barbosa In The Big Apple
  Diaw should pull a JCN

• Gerard Himself Posted: Jun.20 at 9:09 am
  From what I’ve read, there are rumors about a Diaw-Ford + pick deal with the Raptors. I’m not saying Ford won’t with the Suns, but he sure won’t be starting there for the next year or two. Thoughts?

• Hursty Posted: Jun.20 at 9:12 am
  well, ford is quick and the Suns have a great athletic/rehab team so it could work, both Diaw and Ford have become steadily less relevant over the last two years though.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 9:14 am
  Do New York really need any more guards/shooters? Maybe they should actually consider looking for a big-men to start who aren’t grossly overweight…..

• Hursty Posted: Jun.20 at 9:19 am
  @squirrel- then Gilliarni(sp) is your man. If the bucks let go of Villanueva they should just blow the whole team up except Bogut and Sessions.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 9:20 am
  Tell me about it, I had Mo Williams in my fantasy team, and he seemed to miss almost every other game with the sort of ailment a little girl would play through (like a sore-throat!)

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 9:23 am
  Oh wow cool the Suns are shopping Barbosa something I suggested they do LAST YEAR

• Hursty Posted: Jun.20 at 9:24 am
  Bogut is a legit centre and the only good passer from the pivot at the 5 in the east except Sheed (I think) and Sessions doesnt make sh!t all money so hes worth keeping, Redd is over paid. IF the rcokets try and trade for either (not sure why they would though since neither play D) I’d be happy to give up Luther Head for the Blur (suns get an important shoter)

• Hursty Posted: Jun.20 at 9:25 am
  thoughts Jukai? suns man as you are?

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 9:26 am
  Just how slow are the Suns planning on getting? Shipping out Barbosa, hot on the heels of Marion, is going to slow them down even further than they have been since Shaq arrived.

• Hursty Posted: Jun.20 at 9:29 am
  Too slow to play that speed now. New coach and new system is what it looks like.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 9:31 am
  Then a complete overhaul of the roster is needed. If they’re not attempting to outscore people, they need more defense that STAT and Nash can provide.

• Hursty Posted: Jun.20 at 9:34 am
  Artest to the rescue!!! (since Hill cant play that many minutes)

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 9:36 am
  Marion can opt out, right? Maybe he’ll come back………haha

• Hursty Posted: Jun.20 at 9:40 am
  that’d be awesome. Hear Ice T on Soulja Boy? Funny sh!t. ““F*ck Soulja Boy! Eat a dick! This n*gga single handedly killed Hip Hop.” hahaha!!! then 50cent at Taco Bell? ‘I dont do charity’ on changing his name to 79cent for promo. dumb@ss.

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 9:46 am
  the suns will never be again that athletic,run&gun-type team.first marrion,then d´antoni and now these super-athletic players.1 more reason to hate S.Kerr..

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 9:51 am
  I think enough people hate Steve Kerr already. I’ve never seen public perception change as quickly as it did when Shaq joined the Suns. I for one was a huge Suns fan, but just can’t root for a team containing that ego-maniac.

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 9:51 am
  @HURSTY..give me an adress.where can i listen it?

• Hursty Posted: Jun.20 at 9:55 am
  to the audio of it? google it man, youtube, everywhere, it was for a magazine or something, funniest sh!t I’ve heard in weeks, I was cracking up.

• solito Posted: Jun.20 at 10:06 am
  The suns are idiots to move Diaw. But it is typical for them… Whatch the San Antonio Spurs make a deal for him (Finnley).

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 10:11 am
  yeah..funny sh*t men.especialy 50´s one..

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 10:11 am
  Have you actually watched any basketball since Diaw’s breakout seasons a few years back?!

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 10:18 am
  @spuirrel7..who?me?

• RolleZed Posted: Jun.20 at 10:20 am
  suns gon be middle class team next season. I mean denver gon be better than phoenix example.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 10:21 am
  No, I was talking to ‘Solito’, who seems to think the Suns would be foolish to trade Diaw. I just assumed he hasn’t witnessed the last 2, deeply mediocre seasons that he’s had!

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 10:22 am
  @rollezed yeah..GSW too.

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 10:25 am
  Hursty, I think Barbosa has to go. I have been saying for a while. He’s an overrated player… He can REALLY only play in a fast paced game, and is absolutely abysmal when going against someone like the Spurs. His three point shooting is overrated (when he can’t drive, his entire game goes down), he can’t play off the ball, and honestly, the people’s percentage of him is so high that the Suns can get someone better than they originally wanted to trade him for. As for Diaw, I’m not sure about trading Diaw… I know he just plays like crap sometimes, but he plays really big for his position, has moments of greatness, and is a key guy off the bench.

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 10:26 am
  @sqirrel7..moving g.hill at the starting SF position wasnt the best move for b.diaw.2006/07 wasnt so bad year for him,..anyways,maybe he can play better somewhere else.

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 10:28 am
  I think the Suns are dead though. Nash really obliterated his effectiveness when he decided he would ignore his inside game and practice solely on his three point shot. Sure, he shot nearly 50% from the three point line, but he couldn’t score two inches away from the basket, which meant people like Bowen could guard him much closer and play the passing lanes without any worry he was going to slip by and drive. I saw about five times when Nash made some SICK cross over that tripped up three people, only to blow open layups. Grant Hill played great in the beginning of the season but seemed to stop shooting as the season went on. I can’t explain it, he has such a sick drive, and a mind blowing midrange jumper, but then just stopped shooting. There’s also too much dependence on Shaq… he should be 20 minutes off the bench, but there’s no way his ego could handle that.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 10:31 am
  I don’t know, I was just expecting a lot following the season before that (guess it must have been 2005/2006 then). Never really understood where the Suns thought Hill would fit into the Run’n'Gun offence, as good (but injury-prone) as he is.

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 10:31 am
  For the Suns to maintain their championship mindset, Nash has to regain his driving abilities (hard when you’re in yer mid thirties) and Amare has to have an MVP worthy season. They also need another big man… I’m not sure Barbosa alone could pry away David Lee or Joakim Noah or a running big man who would really play effectively for the Suns. Diaw and Barbosa for David Lee and the Knicks’ first round pick? (which they could then pick up that European shooting guard). It’s hard to put together a winning combination here.

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 10:33 am
  Squirrel, I guess you never saw the beginning of the 2007-2008 season. Hill was dominate in his role. He just stopped playing. Literally too, since he was injured in the San Antonio series (what’s with G-Hill and his groin?)

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 10:34 am
  I agree with Jukai, I think the Suns might as well gut the entire roster, and start over, if they’re going to go with a new style. Almost the old entire roster was built for D’Antoni’s style, but I can’t see how most of them will cope with a new, slower style.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 10:38 am
  I saw Hill’s early performances, but I just couldn’t see how, with his injury-record, he would be able to cope with 82+ games of such fast-paced ball.

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 10:40 am
  My father predicted that Hill would play an 82 game mind blowing season then burst into flames on the first play of the playoffs. He was almost right, actually.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 10:44 am
  My father predicted that Dan Majerle would shoot them to the ‘Chip this season. He’s a little out of touch, is my old man….

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 10:46 am
  it is not a bad idea if NYK and SUNS trade 2/3 from their rosters.i mean with each other.i know it sounds crazy,but..

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 10:46 am
  They don’t really need to overhaul and they don’t really need to change their style. Barbosa is ineffective at the halfcourt game they want to play along with their running game so he has to go. If Diaw has to be thrown in to get a running bigman, so be it. Nash/Bell/Amare still obviously need to be there to have a chance. Shaq doesn’t, but trust me, he’s gonna be there.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 10:50 am
  I thought you just said the Suns were dead?! To be honest, if they want any kind of success, then I don’t think Shaq can be their starting centre, considering his rapid decline. But can you see him settling for anything less, as I sure can’t!

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 10:54 am
  Well, the Suns are dead in terms of championship hopes, but if you think they’re a dead playoff contender team, then trade away Diaw and Bell for first round picks, give Nash to a championship team for like, 2011 draft picks, keep Barbosa cause he’s young, build around Amare. Buy out Hill’s contract.

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 10:55 am
  I don’t have the Detroit Piston school of thought, “if my team can’t win a championship, they’ve failed.” If they make the playoffs again and again and again, they’re still okay in my books.

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 10:55 am
  @jukai..you forgot who´s GM in phoinix

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 10:57 am
  If they seriously don’t think they can win the title, I can see them trading away Nash. At least with STAT they’ve got time on their side, I’m sure Nash would be itching for a shot at the title, before his time is up.

• starbury&stevey Posted: Jun.20 at 10:57 am
  i meant if i was GM,i would follow your plan,but this is impossible now,with S.Kerr as captain.nothing personal

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 11:01 am
  You’re right, Squirrel, teams are just dying to trade away a two time MVP top ten point guard of all time all-star, who is the reason why people watch games in Phoenix. Really.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Jun.20 at 11:05 am
  Haha, I didn’t mean they wanted to trade him. I meant he may fish for a move if he doesn’t think they’re going to be competitive. And the Suns management may think it’s worth giving him up to get some young-talent in return.

• Earl "E.Sneed" Sneed Posted: Jun.20 at 11:07 am
  Sounds like the Knicks are going to get there PG of the future….but who would be interested in a 6-8 SF that thanks he’s a PG (Diaw)?

• floe Posted: Jun.20 at 11:14 am
  ARTEST FOR BARBOSA
  DIAW FOR FORD

• Jared Posted: Jun.20 at 11:18 am
  What do the knicks want in barbosa and diaw? another soft, undersized big and another scoring point? Come on…I mean, come on

• niQ Posted: Jun.20 at 11:30 am
  the phoenix era was over once they brought in shaq. now this?..

• Mike Posted: Jun.20 at 11:31 am
  The suns have to get maximum value for those two playz They traded the Matrix for nothing. I fthery trade them they should trade them for Ron Artest a great defender and a first round draft pick

• ciolkstar Posted: Jun.20 at 11:41 am
  Hill’s injury was really D’Antoni fault. The guy was playing 36+ minutes a night! D’Antoni is really bad about overplaying players. Shaq was even playing around 40 minutes some nights. D’Antoni gets a lot of credit for being a revolutionary basketball mind, but he’s actually very simplistic. (maybe to a fault) he just puts his guys out there and says run! I remember against the Spurs he was subbing Giricek, who asked “who am i guarding?” Dant looked confused by the question and after the said “Oberto…and don’t let him rebound” Are you kidding? I think he just went to NYK for the paper, CHI was so obviously the better team to build upon.

• Brandon Hoffman Posted: Jun.20 at 12:25 pm
  Barbosa is an open court player. If the Suns are putting the brakes on their run n’ gun style than he’s as good as gone. Leandro was shut down by the Spurs in two straight Finals because they eliminated all of the open 3’s and layups he lives upon.

• TheTruthSquad Posted: Jun.20 at 12:31 pm
  Kerr is just dumping salary again. He and Sarver think Phoenix will sell out every night but the glory days of jammed arenas are over if they are a losing team.
  I am sure the deal is take Diaw and you can have LB too. You have to get about half back in the trade so it will be a bunch of has beens like the rest of the team. Like Hill, Shaq, Giricek, Linton Johnson II (who in hell is he?), marks, skinner and Piatkowski. How was D’Antone supposed to use his bench when this bunch of losers were sitting there? Kerr said last year that Marks was a good player and would see a lot of action. What did Kerr see that no one else in the world saw? He saw a cheap salary, what else?
  Diaw and LB are history just like anyone else that they can peddle for a buck.

• Jess Posted: Jun.20 at 12:41 pm
  @ Gerard. The reasom that TJ will be leaving the Raps is because he wants/has to start. I dont know if he will go there and come off the bench. I think the Raps could arrange a better trade involving Ford.

• AC Posted: Jun.20 at 12:44 pm
  Ouch… Lotta hate towards Diaw & LB. I’m sure they can be usefull to any number of teams for the right price. No blockbusters here… but they’ll change up a team and create some more interest for next year.

• Maurice Posted: Jun.20 at 1:15 pm
  boris,raja, and amare for rasheed and tayshaun

• Jukai Posted: Jun.20 at 1:31 pm
  Ciolkstar has it right about EVERYTHING. TheTruthSquad is mostly right, but Giricek was actually a damn good player off the bench and Skinner was great until he was pushed off the rotation cause of Shaq (even though he shoulnd’t have been). Marks was suppose to see a lot of minutes but then he got injured the same time Skinner was signed. Skinner trained with the team the entire time Marks was healing, and unfortunately never got into the swing of things. Maurice is an idiot. That’s all.

• Sid Posted: Jun.20 at 1:55 pm
  Let us look at a trade with New York. What if we traded Boris Diaw and Leandro Barbosa to New York (together making $15,100,00) for Jamal Crawford, Nate Robinson, David Lee, and also swap first round draft picks? (New York’s guys are making $12,000,000.00 altogether). New York would get # 15 and we would get #6.

• underdog Posted: Jun.20 at 2:45 pm
  They should sign to Barcelona!

• Bostwik Posted: Jun.20 at 2:47 pm
  ship them to milwaukee, michael red is obviously on the board until the trade deadline.

• Wongtouski Posted: Jun.20 at 3:56 pm
  They ought to trade barbosa for a draft pick….get me mayo lol

• Kevin Posted: Jun.20 at 4:29 pm
  I still like Diaw’s game, even if he does need an asskicking to get it in order from time to time.. Barbosa’s game jus has too many flaws in it, I’ll believe in him again one day when he can use his long arms, quickness and athleticism on defense.. til then he’s useless.

• celtics=champs Posted: Jun.20 at 5:43 pm
  Barbossa to the big apple!

• Beth Posted: Jun.20 at 6:26 pm
  I just want the suns to win…whatever it takes (without trading away Amare&Nash) I’m DOWN! Boris just isn’t aggressive enough for my liking!

• haha Posted: Jun.20 at 10:36 pm
  I say keep barbosa and get rid of diew. Barbosa is just gonna keep getting better and hes a good backup 4 steve nash or bell.

• haha Posted: Jun.20 at 10:37 pm
  I say keep barbosa and get rid of diew. Barbosa is just gonna keep getting better and hes a good backup 4 steve nash or bell. Well i guess u could trade barbosa and diew 4 a good draft pick

• haha Posted: Jun.20 at 10:42 pm
  I disagree with u Kevin. I say get rid of diew we dont even need him and hes a bad player. Barbosa is a way better player then diew and is getting better, while diew is getting worse. I just want the suns to win it all no matter what it takes and i would be more than happy 2 see diew get traded.

• WeS Posted: Jun.20 at 11:42 pm
  Pax - get us an Arenas Rose backcourt with Barbosa coming off the bench….
  please….
  I can ream, cant I?

• WeS Posted: Jun.20 at 11:42 pm
  I meant dream - but I could probably ream too.

• LAN Posted: Jun.21 at 4:47 am
  diaw and barbosa for artest YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• DMC14 Posted: Jun.21 at 5:41 am
  I’m with Beth just want the SUNS to win. But keep Amare. I like the sound of Artest in Phoenix.

• Guaransheed Posted: Jun.21 at 10:36 pm
  they’re both great players and any team would be lucky to have them. Although i would love the suns to keep them. I think te suns have a great pick number for the place they finished so their draft pick should satisfy them. Back-up nash wiil be good.

• Shippy Posted: Jun.22 at 6:45 pm
  They should try to get nate robinson with a vet in a deal with NY.

• what Posted: Jun.22 at 7:14 pm
  Haha looks like people are awful quiet nowadays about that Joe Johnson trade the Hawks made… not so many people slamming ATL for giving away precious Diaw anymore huh?

• Dacre Posted: Jun.22 at 8:08 pm
  Moving Barbosa, Diaw, Marion….It appears that PHX will be the new DETROIT of the East very soon (consecutive conference final runs anyone??) - I can’t wait for a defensive minded-crack down enforcer team to come out of ARIZONA! It’s going to be awesome! We’ll move up to the 9th spot in the draft, take DJ Augustin and just dominate.

• Dacre Posted: Jun.22 at 8:10 pm
  DIAW WAS AWESOME those first few season in PHX - We got to the West conf. finals, Diaw averaged 14 7 and 7 on the season and was amazingly versatile for that ball club line-up. The refeering kept the suns out of the finals at their height.

• Dacre Posted: Jun.22 at 8:12 pm
  The Suns should use their bench this year….DJ STRAWBERRY is a phantom-killer.

• Dacre Posted: Jun.22 at 8:14 pm
  Hmmm… I think with a slow down offense, RAJA BELL & AMARE could be come the best defensive combo behind RAJON and KG.

• Slobodan Chutzpah Posted: Jun.23 at 7:20 am
  Sid, there is no reason in the world why the Knicks would trade their three most valuable/worthwhile players for the Bobbsey Twins. Get real.

• NY KNICKS Posted: Jun.23 at 10:51 am
  Diaw is a soft player he couldnt score on Tony Parker…ship his a** out to Toronto with Chris Bosh’s….trade barbosa for some scrub on the Knicks ….

• haha Posted: Jun.23 at 11:00 pm
  ha ha ha ha ha ha ha har har har har har tee hee!!!!!!!!!!!! i think u guys can all go f*** yourselfs (: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha