Friday, August 22nd, 2008 at 8:00 am  |  283 responses

Scouting Report: Kobe Bryant Vs. LeBron James

How they compare in the skills that matter.

by David Friedman

Comparisons of Kobe Bryant to LeBron James often generate a lot more heat than light. This is because there is one camp that cannot even conceive of the possibility that James is better than Bryant and another camp that cannot even conceive of the possibility that Bryant is better than James.

Some people base their arguments on statistics, some people compare the supporting casts surrounding each player and other people offer vague generalizations about selfishness, killer instinct and other qualities that are very hard to quantify in a meaningful way.

I compare players—not just Bryant and James, but all players—by skill set. Statistics can be affected by a player’s position, his role on the team and other factors; the numbers are important to consider but they don’t tell the whole story.

For instance, according to BasketballReference.com in NBA/ABA history 24 different players have had a total of 61 seasons in which they averaged at least 20 ppg and eight apg. Not surprisingly, Oscar Robertson leads that group with 10 such seasons, but do you know who has the second most 20-8 seasons?

Stephon Marbury (6).

I hope we can all agree that Marbury is not an all-time great point guard just because he put up some gaudy scoring and assist totals.

Let’s compare the respective skill sets of Bryant and James:

1. Shooting

Bryant is a much better free throw shooter than James (.839 to .728) and Bryant has a better jump shot from both the midrange and three point areas. Shooting is James’ biggest weakness but despite his much publicized work to improve his touch he actually has regressed during his career: his free throw percentage declined for three straight seasons, from .754 as a rookie to .698 in 2006-07, before bouncing back slightly to .712 last season.

Against many NBA teams James overcomes this with his sheer athletic power, bulling his way to the hoop to score in the paint (that is why his overall field goal percentage is higher than Bryant’s, much like Shaquille O’Neal’s field goal percentage is higher than Hakeem Olajuwon’s even though Olajuwon had greater shooting range). However, in each of the last two seasons when James went up against the eventual NBA champions those teams built a wall around the paint, sagged off of James and dared him to make jump shots.

The result was that James averaged 22.0 ppg, shot .356 from the field (including .200 from three point range) and committed 5.8 turnovers per game as the Spurs swept his Cavs in the 2007 NBA Finals; he averaged 26.7 ppg, shot .355 from the field (including .231 from three point range) and committed 5.3 turnovers per game in the 2008 Eastern Conference Finals versus the Celtics.

In contrast, Bryant averaged 29.2 ppg, shot .533 from the field (including .333 from three point range) and committed just 2.4 turnovers per game as the Lakers beat the Spurs in five games in the 2008 Western Conference Finals; he averaged 25.7 ppg, shot .405 from the field (including .321 from three point range) and committed 3.8 turnovers per game versus the Celtics in the 2008 NBA Finals.

Note that James’ turnover numbers skyrocketed because defenders could simply sit in the passing lanes. Opposing defenders are also more apt to foul James because James is not a reliable free throw shooter.

Advantage: Bryant

2. Rebounding

James has a career rebounding average of 6.9 rpg, while Bryant has a career rebounding average of 5.3 rpg but the only logical way to look at this is by position.

James is a small forward who is nearly as big as Karl Malone was, so he naturally shoulders a bigger rebounding burden than Bryant, a shooting guard who plays on the perimeter. James is one of the best rebounders at his position and Bryant is one of the best rebounders at his position.

Of course, sometimes they guard each other and near the end of Cleveland’s 94-90 win over the Lakers, Bryant did a remarkable thing: he beat James to an offensive rebound after an Andrew Bynum miss, giving the Lakers a crucial late game possession.

After the game, someone asked Bryant how he did that but he just laughed and said, “I’m not giving up my secret. I told him (James) I was going to get it. That’s just years of experience.”

Yes, that was just one play but Bryant does that kind of thing fairly often; he knows all of the angles, his footwork is impeccable and he does not shy away from contact. When Andrew Bynum was out of the lineup and before the Lakers acquired Pau Gasol, Bryant averaged 10.4 rpg in a five game stretch without a decrease in his scoring or assists averages.

Advantage: Draw (James has the edge in size, Bryant has the edge in savvy)

3. Defense

Bryant has made the All-Defensive First Team six times, while James has yet to earn an All-Defensive Team selection.

Keep in mind that the voting in this category is done by NBA head coaches (who cannot choose their own players), not media members. I often hear fans criticizing Bryant’s defense but NBA head coaches have consistently recognized him as a top defender. Bryant has the ability to play lock down, denial defense against any shooting guard in the league but the realities of an 82 game schedule during which he also is asked to score 30-plus ppg mean that he does not play lock down defense on a nightly basis; however, that does not mean that he is playing poor defense the rest of the time.

Bryant understands what the opposing team is trying to do and he is very disruptive not only to his own man but also as a help defender. During the NBA Finals, Boston Coach Doc Rivers made an observation that did not get nearly as much play as it should have, namely that Bryant is the best help defender the league has seen since Scottie Pippen.

When James first came into the NBA he did not understand the finer points of NBA defense but he has been an avid student and quick learner at that end of the court. Cleveland Coach Mike Brown has a defense-first philosophy and James has bought into that completely, which inevitably leads to the rest of the team falling in line behind him.

Even when James makes an incorrect read he can often make up for it due to his incredible athletic ability. At the rate that James is improving it is only a matter of time until he will merit recognition as an All-Defensive Team player, possibly as soon as next season.

Advantage: Bryant

4. Passing

Many people simply look at career apg averages (6.6 for James, 4.6 for Bryant) and award this category to James in a landslide—but it is not that simple, as the Robertson/Marbury example indicates. As I noted during the Spurs-Hornets series, the assist may be the most subjective statistic in the boxscore.

That is one reason that the Cavaliers also track “hockey assists,” the pass that leads to a scoring pass (James gets plenty of those, too). Although I cite assist numbers when I write game recaps because those totals give a “quick and dirty” idea of who is doing the playmaking, when I compare the passing abilities of two players I consider the following factors: court vision/ability to read the defense, ability to make all of the fundamental passes, willingness to pass.

James has remarkable court vision but Bryant is a lot better in this regard than some people may think. It was not easy for him to display this when Kwame Brown was the recipient of his passes but when Andrew Bynum stepped up last season and especially after Pau Gasol arrived Bryant demonstrated that he can run the pick and roll and deliver a pass as well as the best point guards in the NBA.

James has a unique pass in his repertoire that few if any other NBA players deliver on a consistent basis: the crosscourt, bullet skip pass that punishes a trapping defense by finding the open man like a heat seeking missile. Bryant is capable of making this pass and he does so at times but James does this several times a game. The point is not whether or not this results in an assist but rather that defenses have to take this into account. James’ poor shooting takes away some options from him but his crosscourt passes give the defense something to worry about if their rotations are not crisp.

In terms of bounce passes, chest passes, outlet passes, no look passes and various kinds of feeds off of pick and roll plays, Bryant and James each have the full repertoire.

Most people understand this about James but a lot of people fail to recognize Bryant’s skills as a passer. James is generally considered a “pass first” player while Bryant is called a “shoot first” player, but last season James led the NBA in scoring and averaged 21.9 field goal attempts and 10.3 free throw attempts per game, while Bryant averaged 20.6 field goal attempts and 9.0 free throw attempts. By necessity, both players are “shoot first” players for their teams.

Hypothetically, if both players were placed on the court in a situation that was truly a 50-50 read—meaning that the player could justifiably either shoot the ball or make a pass—I agree with the subjective evaluation that Bryant may be more of a “shoot first” player than James is. However, the reality is that both players are expected to lead their teams in scoring while also being the primary playmaker. Their assist totals reflect the areas on the court where they receive the ball and the kinds of passes that they make in their respective offenses.

Advantage: Slight edge to James

5. Footwork/fakes

Bryant has arguably the best footwork in the NBA and this is no small matter: his ability to pivot, his use of the jab step and his cutting/ability to use screens are great assets offensively, while his footwork defensively is equally outstanding. Michael Jordan increasingly relied on footwork as he got older and you can already see Bryant going down that same path, even though Bryant still retains a lot of athletic ability at this point.

People get mesmerized by Bryant’s shotmaking but they don’t pay attention to the finer points of how he consistently gets open against the NBA’s best defenses, the subtle fakes and moves that Bryant uses to throw defenders off balance. Bryant can score in the post against bigger or smaller defenders because his footwork is so good and he is almost impossible to guard facing the basket for the same reason.

At this stage, James’ footwork is much more rudimentary.

He uses some jab steps but basically he simply gets by people with brute force and stunning speed. There is nothing wrong with that but those tools don’t work in every situation. James is also not nearly the postup offensive threat that he should be considering his size and athletic gifts. He is capable of getting in a defensive stance and sliding his feet but sometimes he plays a bit too upright, relying on his athletic ability to bail him out if he gets beat.

Advantage: Bryant

6. Ballhandling

Bryant and James are both excellent ballhandlers. They each prefer their right hand but are able to dribble and finish in traffic with their left hand if necessary. James is a bit more apt to try a risky pass that could be stolen, while Bryant is more apt to lose the ball in traffic when he drives to the hoop. Bryant’s ballhandling style relies on finesse and precision, while James takes full advantage of his size and strength to overpower his defenders and get into the lane.

Advantage: Draw

There is not a huge gulf between Bryant and James at this point. It seems that most of the people who believe that James is already better than Bryant fall into two camps: fans who are speaking from the heart more than the mind and stat heads who strictly look at (certain) numbers without considering any context. If you talk to NBA executives, coaches, players and scouts their evaluation will generally resemble the one that was offered above; it may differ in certain specific details but people who look at the game from a technical, objective standpoint realize that Bryant’s skill set is more well rounded than James’ skill set at this point. James’ size and athletic ability mitigate those skill set factors to some extent, so one could make a case that James is better than Bryant in that sense but I’d have to see an improvement in James’ shooting and/or a greater decline in Bryant’s athletic ability to agree with that take.

Consider what Larry Bird recently told Dan Patrick about Kobe Bryant: “I think he’s the best player in the world. I think he’s probably one of the best players that could be compared to Michael Jordan since Michael Jordan retired. He’s no Michael Jordan but he’s the closest thing.” I know that a lot of fans don’t want to hear or believe that, but what Bird said is a fair representation of what knowledgeable NBA people think about Bryant.

To read more of David Friedman’s basketball articles, just take a 20 Second Timeout.His general sports commentary can be found at BestEverSportsTalk.

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  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Alaska, you can’t.

  • Alaska

    sorry for the typos, typing fast

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Alaska, I got your back boy, I got your back!!!

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    David, why do you keep falling back on statistics to make points, the most recent case being comparing the stats of Kobe and Lebron versus Boston, but then say stats aren’t important in other instances. I think Jukai is making good points (mainly because I agree with them) and I think that you seem to be cherrypicking your criteria instead of sticking with one standard. You used a citation from Hubie Brown that wasn’t as cut and dried as it seemed. Kobe is not a “bad” decision maker, but that doesn’t make him as good a passer as Lebron. Chauncey billups isn’t a “bad” decision maker, but he’s nowhere near the passer of Steve Nash or Jason Kidd. I firmly believe Lebron sees the game differently than Kobe, and because of that is a better passer. Conversely, Kobe is far more skilled as a scorer and sees the game better as such. (Good point on Kobe’s footwork as well. I”ve been saying he has the best footwork outside of Duncan for years.) Lebron has a better balance between passer and scorer than Kobe in my mind.

  • http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/ David Friedman

    Jukai:

    We could probably go back and forth about this forever but the gist of what I get from your comments is that Kobe can never do enough to suit you. His decision making against Utah was impeccable, his shooting numbers were off the charts and the Lakers beat the 2007 Western Conf. Finalists but the fact that Kobe did not completely shut down D Will on every single possession “proves” to you that Kobe is a poor defender.

    In the Finals, Kobe at various times guarded Allen, Rondo (as a roamer to disrupt Boston’s other players, which is why Doc Rivers compared Kobe to Pippen) and Pierce. Did Allen lose Kobe once or twice after a well set screen? Yes. Did Allen do most of his damage versus Vujacic and others? Yes. Were the Lakers short on defenders who could adequately guard Allen, Rondo and Pierce, meaning that Kobe had to try his hand with each at various times? Yes.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Hubie Brown is the best tv analyst. Jeff Van Gundy is second. I just noticed that argument. Gotta agree with David on that one. Nobody imparts more knowledge during a basketball game then Hubie.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I hate agreeing with Allen. :)

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    David, to your point of Kobe having to guard Ray, Paul and Rondo, shouldn’t the games greatest perimiter D player have no problem making said switches?

  • chap

    well i agree with most of qhat you said and i agree that up to this point bryant is the better player although i am a huge lebron-fan but i don´t agree with your draw in rebounds. in basketball size is always a factor and for that lebron is just the better rebounder. due to brant´s size he ended up as shooting guard and because of that he got an amazing jump shot

  • http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/ David Friedman

    CWalk:

    I don’t think that either player needs much “help” from anyone.

    Kobe’s team ranks in scoring, assists, steals, rebounds are comparable to LeBron’s, though I’m not sure what that proves.

    Do you honestly believe that other teams/players don’t fear Kobe? I think that both players are feared but for different reasons. LeBron is an athletic freak of nature, while Kobe is a player whose complete skill set makes him very difficult to deal with at both ends of the court.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    And Lebron’s skill set is only getting better.

  • Alaska

    When are people going to realize that the kobe vs. lebron argument is not valid. Kobe game is based off of Jordan’s principals. let’s get something straight, Kobe will never be as good as jordan. but lebron is measured on a different scale. He does not register. He is different. The nike slogan is true ” we are witnesses”.

    I know one thing Jordan would not of let know 24 point lead dissapper in the 4th quater.
    Kobe=imitation

    There is only one Jordan and there is only one Lebron

  • Alaska

    man i suck at typing fast

  • http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/ David Friedman

    Allen:

    I am not “falling back” on statistics to make my points; I am citing numbers in context that illustrate a wider point. Kobe and LeBron’s numbers versus Boston and San Antonio are meaningful because of why they produced those numbers (i.e., shooting percentages and turnovers): elite teams guard Kobe and LeBron differently because Kobe can shoot from the outside and LeBron cannot. This is something that I talked about/predicted before the Lakers/Spurs series. That is why those numbers are meaningful but they are just one piece of the larger picture that I tried to paint in my article.

    I did not say that Kobe is as good a passer as LeBron; I gave LeBron the edge in that category. I simply made the point that Kobe is a better passer and decision maker than a lot of people think and cited Brown’s comments as an example of this. JVG also spoke highly of Kobe’s decision making during the playoffs.

    How can you illustrate/prove your contention about how LeBron and Kobe “see” the game? Their field goal attempts and free throw attempts are similar; they both shoot a lot and ranked 1-2 in scoring. They also both led their teams in assists and had a lot of “hockey assists” to boot. I think that Kobe and LeBron both “see” the game better than just about anyone else in the NBA, other than maybe a couple elite pgs.

  • Anton Chatman

    It is obvious that you’re a “Kobe Fan”. Anybody in their right minds know that you’re bias in this article. The catergory that you did acknowledge LeBron was only a “slight edge” come on Kobe and passing. Then you called it a draw with rebounding because basically LeBron has more size but Kobe more sight let’s be real. Hands down LeBron is a better rebounder and passer, no draws and no slight edges. Kobe is a better all around player including his defense but as I recall Kobe was all defense his first couple of years either but I didn’t read that in your bias article. You didn’t want to mention their players as if playing with Shaq didn’t help him improve his defensive skills quicker it sure didn’t improve his passing at first. There is one thing that everyone fail to mention when we argue who’s better: Kobe or LeBron. LeBron is only 23 compared to Kobe’s 30. So to be comparing LeBron to Kobe as who’s the best player now says a lot about LeBron and I’m not talking about “slightly”.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    David, dispute this fact if possible. Lebron in the last two seasons, faced two of the most hard nosed defensive teams of the last decade in the Pistons in 07 and the Celts this season. The Celts D is supposedly on par with legandarty teams of the past and the Pistons squad has beend doing it for the better part of half a decade. Lebron WILLED his team to beat the Pistons and get to his first Finals all while making their vaunted D seem like an afterthought. This season, he bareley missed (it was a seven game series that was just eeked out by Boston yes?) pushing his way less superior team past a Celtics team that basically made Kobe and his squad seem quite ordinary. If we are talking about TODAY, again TODAY, and where these guys rank inf there was a numerical gauge, anyone that doesn’t look at those two examples and not fall back on previous incarnations of Kobe and his rock solid game aren’t (a being truthful and b) arguing just to be heard.

  • http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/ David Friedman

    Eboy:

    I was not suggesting that Kobe had a problem doing this. My point is that Kobe was not “responsible” for all of Allen’s points (i.e., Allen put up a lot of his numbers while Kobe was guarding someone else).

  • http://MSN.COM CWALK

    The Lakers lost by 40 the last game of the finals…that’s just as bad as getting swept because that too says YOU DON’T BELONG HERE!

    I’m sorry guys..I really do like Kobe but he doen’t have his OWN game. He gets compared to MJ BECAUSE HE TRYS TO PLAY JUST LIKE HIM!!! The pump fakes, the fade-aways, the way he walks, talks..he even tried to ruin his marriage just because Jordan did. Lebron has his OWN unique style of play that most of us have not seen all in one player if we are totally honest. His God-given talents mixed with his off-the-charts basketball I.Q. really make it hard to argue against him.

    By the way, we have been arguing this “best player in the world” thing for 2 years now…BACK WHEN LEBRON WAS ONLY 21 YEARS OLD. He is only going to get better..Can we say that about Kobe???

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Pau and Sasha didn’t deserve to be there, that’s for sure.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    No mention of Tracy McGrady anywhere.

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    Everyone and their mother also remembers that Flip Saunders didnt bother to double team LeBron, who is too quick and strong for any one defender to stay between him and the basket. The Pistons were a great defesive team, but not in that instance. More importantly, as time has shown, theyre not knowing for giving their best effort on the big stage either. And As David has already said LeBron broke records for ineptitude with his field goal percentage in the first three games or so against the Celtics. The same reasons that David has cited in giving the edge to Kobe are the same reasons that most NBA players and coaches cite when discussing the two. Footwork, shooting and defense. If it were conversation about who is the more remarkable physical specimen there is no argument. LeBron is probably the best ever. But there are other aspects of the game to be mastered that Kobe has and Bron has yet to fully develop. When he does, Ill be the first in line to say hes the best. Until then, um, no.

  • Alaska

    David, you did make me think about it. While Kobe is one of the best players in the league. He is still confined to Jordan’s standards. I am not saying that Lebron is better than Jordan. But, no man has ever been asked to do so much with so little and exceed all of are expectations. The have been following Lebron since his AAU days at the tender age of 13. They call this man the “king” the savior of this league. Arguably he is all of that and more. He has his flaws, but he is just in a league of his own. Right now the only person who can stop lebron is lebron. Kobe sure can’t.

  • http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/ David Friedman

    Eboy:

    1) What LeBron did against Det in 07 was great but Det is not as good defensively as the Spurs or Boston (two teams that won titles). If you remember, most of LeBron’s points against Det. came by dunking on people because Det. did not keep him out of the lane. What LeBron did against Det. was epic, fantastic, wonderful–but Det did not play the same defense that San Antonio and Boston did.

    2) Cle. forced Boston to seven games largely on the strength of their great defense. In the first four games, LeBron set numerous records for lowest field goal percentage. In game seven, LeBron was fantastic, but there would not have been a game seven without Cle’s great defense leading up to that point. LAL’s defense versus Boston was not good and Gasol and Odom were soft on offense.

    Basically, I am saying that Kobe is slightly better than LeBron because Kobe’s more complete skill set outweighs LeBron’s advantages in power/athletic ability. This is not a simplistic “Kobe is great, LeBron sucks” rant. I’ve got Kobe 1a and LeBron 1b in the NBA right now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Very disappointed in you, Sports Gal. I thought you’d leave well enough alone.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    PS, Jukai loves sarcasm. Hit him with some.

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    I know Jones, D’Evils just get the best of me sometimes.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    PPS, There’s a bunch of freshman girls getting orientated (no, seriously) on the lawn outside my office, and they’re trying their best not to stare at the tattooed construction workers replacing the sidewalk and staring at them. Also, every minute or so, the girls all go “WHOOOOOOOO!” in response to something. Classes start Monday. Holla.
    Alright, back to whatever you people were talking about. Losers.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Failure on David Friedman: Kobe was taken OFF Allen when he could not guard him and put on Rondo. Also, you completely ignored my rebounds/assist point when both Kobe/Lebron played against Boston, but you keep ranting about their points and shooting percentage against Boston. Also, right now you’re arguing with seven people who absolutely disagree with you. And Ryan just showed up.

  • http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/ David Friedman

    Alaska:

    You seem to be more interested in comparing Kobe to MJ but that was not the subject of the article. MJ is retired; MJ was better than Kobe.

    Kobe and LeBron are the two best players in the NBA right now; that is why I selected them as the subjects of the article.

  • mookie

    it used to be kobe vs vince, kobe vs tmac, kobe vs dwade… and now kobe vs lebron. I don’t hear talk about those previous guys being the best in the NBA anymore… im just saying.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Nov. 1, Myles. Treat it like opening night of the Dark Knight. I expect you to be in line a week early. Sh*t will be EPIC.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I was here at 8:58 a.m., Jukai, you lazy f*ck.
    Sincerely,
    Farmer Jones

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    David, you should have typed the 1a-1b in your piece then, it wuld have saved you a shi*tload of rebuttal time and kept Myles off the ledge. :)

  • http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/ David Friedman

    Jukai:

    Kobe was taken off Allen when various players could not guard Pierce.

    Kobe was later put on Rondo so that he could double team whoever was getting beaten.

    In the article I already explained why straight comparisons of rebounding and assist totals are not meaningful; the shooting percentages and turnovers are directly the result of having an outside shot or not having one.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Jukai, to be fair, David is correct about several of his points. It’s just that anything against Kobe is made to be haterrific. I had the same battles with people when Mike playe……oh , no I didn’t there was never these discussions. FTW!!!!!! :)

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    Nov 1. it is then. I refuse to discuss this any further until then. Or Monday.

  • http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/ David Friedman

    @ Eboy:

    First sentence, second to last paragraph of the article:

    “There is not a huge gulf between Bryant and James at this point.”

    Another way of saying 1a, 1b :)

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    True, David.

  • mookie

    jordan wasn’t ranked very high in “Friendliness” did he…. im just saying

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    David: I already said that your entire rebounding/assists piece was incredibly flawed and biased, but you can keep using that as a shield to explain why two statistical catagories mean more than the next. Lebron, because he was not shooting well, began getting his teammates involved instead. Kobe, on the other hand, decided to keep forcing shots. The result? Lebron’s Cavs played seven VERY TIGHTLY CONTESTED games and lost game seven without their best spot-up three point shooter. Kobe’s team was absolutely blown out three out of the six games, and the two that the Lakers won were nail biters. Of course, this will never be mentioned in your article.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Eboy: out of curiosity, what parts do you agree with me and what parts do you agree with David?

  • http://myspace.com/bodiebarnett jbn74sb

    Let me sum this up for everyone. Thus far into their careers, Kobe is by far a superior basketball player. However, as of right now, any edge that Kobe may have is a very narrow one, and LeBron appears to be closing it year by year. When LeBron is done, he will most likely go down as better than Kobe. Until he gets there, Kobe at his best is better than LeBron at his best, and, so far, Kobe brings it more often than LeBron. We’ll see what happens this year.

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    As much as you type and like to crtique others efforts, it seems like youd have a blog of your own. But then that would mean that someones creating something from scratch is easier than your picking it apart. Of course thats just how it looks from my pedestal.

  • mookie

    Chris Kaman sums it all up: “People are going to hate you no matter what you do. People hate Kobe Bryant, and he’s the best player in the world,”

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    Bodie, irrational as usual.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I agree with David’s shooting and defense categories in favor of Kobe. The rest I have fliers out on.

  • Mike Brown

    I love how its a draw for rebounding because James is bigger and taller and plays the 3.

    LBJ gets more rebounds. Period. Advantage LBJ.

    If you’re going to use that rationale for rebounds, you should apply it to every category.

    Same with assists. LBJ has more assists per game, from the small forward position no less.

    Advantage LBJ. Period.

    Next time, take the subjectivity out of the article and stick with the stats. Or, just stop comparing the two. The play on different teams, in different systems, and at different positions. That means they are asked to do different things to help their teams win. Kobe is asked to shoot more. LBJ is asked to facilitate the offense more. That is going to result in a different ‘picture’ statistically for each player.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Oh cool, it’s Myles again!!! The warrior of injustice! It’s cool, but where were you when it was five of us arguing with David instead of one? Hmmm…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Bodie, still the douche, and thanks for the wife insult the other day.

  • Alaska

    David: I was trying to illustrate a point. If John Stockton was in the nba right now. You would not compare him to Chris Paul. Because they are different CP3 represents the new direction of where the league is headed. He is a different type of guard. Likewise with Kobe and lebron, Kobe is held to the standard of jordan. Lebron does not fit in that mold. Kobe represents the best of the old. Lebron, well we will just have to see what he comes up with next. Kobe best is right now, 5 years from now lebron will just be peaking. Who would you rather have a 5 man team of lebrons or Kobes.
    That is the real answer to you question. I think you know who would win.

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