• September 25, 2008 8:00 am  |  62 Comments

    Phoenix Suns Season Preview

    Where the offense (presumably) meets defense.

    We continue previewing the Pacific Division with the Phoenix Suns. You can read past previews here.

    by Jeff Fox

    Writing a Phoenix Suns season preview used to be as predictable as, well, the rising of the sun. The team would get about 55-60 wins, be one of a handful of serious contenders for the championship, the Big Three (Nash, Stoudemire and Marion) would have an All-NBA-level season and the team would lead the league in scoring. Well, as the expression goes, things done changed.

    The most glaring change is that fact that this will be the first time since 1998 that the Suns will enter training camp without Shawn Marion matrixing it up in the purple and orange. GM Steve Kerr has taken a lot of heat for the Marion for Shaq trade with critics complaining, correctly, that the Suns would be a better team with Marion still around. However, the Marion deal was basically a case of addition by subtraction, as Shawn didn’t want to be in the Valley of the Sun anymore and made it known to anyone who asked. While he still was a superb player and a good teammate, his trade request and constant complaining over a perceived lack of respect caused too much tension in the locker room.

    The other significant change is, after averaging 58 wins a year in the four full seasons he coached the team, Mike D’Antoni was basically fired, without technically being fired. After being encouraged by the Suns brass to pursue other coaching opportunities, Mike D decided to go and clean up Isiah Thomas’ mess in NYC – may God have mercy on his soul. Kerr went the polar opposite from D’Antoni when he hired defensive-minded coach Terry Porter. While Porter is preaching defense, will he be able to practice what he preaches? He inherits a roster thin on lockdown defenders. Outside of Raja Bell, who is one of the league’s top defenders and pests, only aging Grant Hill and Shaq have ever been considered good defenders. It has to be hoped that rookie big man “Side Show Bob” Robin Lopez’s defensive skills translates from college to the pros.

    Here’s how the Suns’ roster stacks up heading into the 08/09 campaign.

    Backcourt

    Despite being 34-years-old, two-time MVP Steve Nash is still amongst the best point guards, and best players, in the league. In fact, even if you suffered through a horrific farm accident and are missing the majority of your fingers you could still count the number of point guards better than Nash on one hand. Possessing the best court vision and passing ability in the game today, Nash has run amok over the league the past four seasons running the Suns high octane attack. However, Captain Canada has never been mistaken for a quality defender, despite his underrated ability at taking charges. Whether Coach Porter can bring something previously unseen out of Nash on the D end of the floor is unknown. The team, worried about Nash getting run down physically this year, has talked publically about limited the number of games he performs in. If that is to happen then they will need rookie point guard Goran Dragic to step up. A 6-4 lefty from Slovenian, Dragic is quick, experienced and a solid defender.

    The team is set at the two-guard spot, with Raja Bell starting and Leandrinho Barbosa coming off the bench. Bell’s above mentioned defensive prowess will be relied on to anchor the defense in the backcourt. As an added bonus, Bell is also a deadly outside shooter, as his 578 three-pointers made over the past three seasons is only topped by Ray Allen amongst long-bombers in the league. Barbosa, arguably the fastest player in the league, should blossom this season without the added responsibility of running the point when Nash is out of the game. He provides instant offense off the bench and totally changes the complexion of the game. He is not, however, an adequate point guard and is much more effective, and comfortable, playing off the ball.

    Frontcourt

    You probably could have gotten really good odds in Vegas about eight years ago if you wanted to bet on Grant Hill still playing at the age of 36. After one devastating injury after another, it appeared like Hill wouldn’t even make it to his 30s in the league. But low and behold, a healthy and still effective Hill will be turning 36 before this season begins. He enjoyed a very solid and relatively injury free first season in the desert last year and should still be able to help the team at both ends of the floor and take some of the play-making responsibilities off of Nash’s plate. Hill’s backup minutes should be taken by Matt Barnes, a new addition to the squad and a solid role player.

    Amare Stoudemire is saying all the right things this offseason, claiming to be committed to being a solid defensive player. He showed flashes of it last season, posting a career-high 163 swats for the year, fifth best in the league. In fact, the only thing keeping STAT from being a complete player is defensive skills that can match, or at least come close to, his total domination on offense. With none of his stunning athleticism missing after his knee surgeries, Stoudemire is a beast in the post, punishing defenders and the rim at will. The skill that truly sets him apart though is his deadly outside jumper. Add in his 80% free throw touch and you’ve got yourself a player. Perhaps even a player worthy of having “Black Jesus” tattooed on his neck. Backing up Stoudemire at the four-spot is the versatile and inconsistent Boris Diaw. Capable of playing all five spots on the floor, Diaw is also capable of posting a triple-double pretty much anytime he wants. Unfortunately it doesn’t appear like he wants to too often. It would be a huge boost to the team is Diaw asserts himself more this year and plays at the level he did in 05/06 (13.3ppg, 6.9rpg, 6.2apg, 1.0bpg) when he won the NBA’s Most Improved Player award.

    Contrary to reports that he can’t even dial a phone without running out of breath, word is that Shaquille O’Neal kept in good shape during the offseason. Whether that means good shape for an NBA player or good shape for an NFL offensive lineman remains to be seen. Considering he is a 36-year-old injury prone center who has played the third-most career minutes among active players, Shaq shouldn’t be counted on to carry a team on his massive shoulders anymore. What he can be counted on is being an excellent third option on offense behind Nash and Stoudemire, still demanding double-teams in the post and still being the most physically intimidating player in the league. If he can average a double-double like he did in his brief stint in Phoenix last year the team should be happy. First round draft pick Robin Lopez should see plenty of action for the Suns, especially if O’Neal’s string of injuries continues. While he won’t be able to bring much on the offensive end other than some putbacks and easy hoops, he will bring an intense, aggressive approach to defense in the post.

    Weather Forecast

    Mostly sunny. Overcast conditions on the horizon.

    While it is true that only four out of the Suns’ projected 10-man rotation will be over 30-years-old this year, unfortunately the four are named Nash, O’Neal, Bell and Hill. All four are key contributors and all four’s best years are in their rear view mirrors. The time to win for Phoenix is now, or more precisely, it probably was last year or the year before that.

    That being said, it’s not like this team won’t still be a factor in the league this year. STAT will only be turning 26-years-old in November and his game is still on the rise. How healthy he is and how much his game evolves this season – especially on the defensive end of the floor – will be the biggest factor on how far the Suns can go. They should be good for 50-55 wins again and how far they go in the playoffs will depend on who they match up with in the first round. A championship contender though? The sun has seemed to have set on that dream.

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    • Bryan Posted: Sep.25 at 8:22 am
      I like this team, I don’t like the coach.

    • James aka The Artist Formerly Known as Krayzie Bone Posted: Sep.25 at 8:27 am
      Australian Wallaby Vomit (Take that Hursty)

    • James aka The Artist Formerly Known as Krayzie Bone Posted: Sep.25 at 8:27 am
      Chisen, second apparently

    • Money Bill Williams Posted: Sep.25 at 8:38 am
      No surrender crazy

    • Money Bill Williams Posted: Sep.25 at 8:39 am
      ^ Krayzie

    • James the balla Posted: Sep.25 at 8:43 am
      This team is terrible, they will never win the ship if Nash doesnt play D!!

    • Hursty Posted: Sep.25 at 8:52 am
      Im cut James, I need a bandaid, better call a wambulance for me :)
      The Suns wont get past the 2nd round imo.
      Just wondering, is Dikembe Mutumbo the leader in active minutes played?
      Where is Robert Horry on that list?

    • Hursty Posted: Sep.25 at 8:55 am
      ^ Krayzie Bone (not balla).

    • andrew Posted: Sep.25 at 8:55 am
      It’s canadian pig vomit for a reason Krayzie… we did have a reason for it, but I can’t remember what it was. Sup money. I will not make my mind up on this team until I see them play… I hate the idea of a halfcourt offense for PHX, but I guess Nasty will have to run a butt-load of pick and rolls to get his assists up.

    • Bryan Posted: Sep.25 at 8:59 am
      Pig vomit is a howard stern rip off.

    • James aka The Artist Formerly Known as Krayzie Bone Posted: Sep.25 at 9:00 am
      lol Hursty. There should be more a’s in waaaambulance. I wish they could just unblock my old moniker because typing that thing out every time im on a different computer sucks. Someone pretty please unblock Krazyie Bone for me? As to the balla, Nash has been known as chisen defender since he was in high school being recurited, so no rings for them. And I say that as someone who loved their game. Please shaq, lets see some selfish pride to get you in shape.

    • Nguni Posted: Sep.25 at 9:09 am
      “The sun has seemed to have set on that dream.” - lol, true indeed…yet it has double meaning.

    • mat smith Posted: Sep.25 at 9:17 am
      Marion was NEVER a good team mate, where did you get that idea? he is the biggest sulk in the NBA and sullied the entire suns locker room.

    • fluxland Posted: Sep.25 at 9:18 am
      Agree with Bryan - I don’t like the coach pick, and like Fox wonder if he’ll be able to deliver all that talk. I doubt it. Also, the exact term from that Cubes posted email regarding Nash was “anti-american canadian pig vomit” Bone - true, no rings for any team with Nash on it.

    • Hursty Posted: Sep.25 at 9:20 am
      Because mat smith would be in a better position to judge than Jeff Fox? Someone who covers basketball and its subtleties for a living? *pfft* Get outta here dude.

    • Eboy Posted: Sep.25 at 9:26 am
      Hursty, I’m backing mat. Marion is a huge malcontent and a aging talent that needs all the chips to fall right in line to be a)happy with his situation (wherever that may be) and b) be more productive than snatching rebounds and scoring fast breaks points but doing nothing productive in late-game situations ’cause of his limited offensive game. Just saying.

    • Jeff Fox Posted: Sep.25 at 9:34 am
      @ Hursty - the 2 guys ahead of Shaq on the minutes played list are Kidd & KG. @ Mat Smith - maybe Marion wasn’t a perfect teammate, but most players who whine like he does and demand trades usually either refuse to report to the team or dog it like Vince did until the Raptors traded him. Marion still showed up every game and was willing to run through a brick wall for his teammates. He was a team captain also I believe.

    • fluxland Posted: Sep.25 at 9:40 am
      Or like Vince give up a last minute play. “It’s a flare. It’s a flare “

    • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 9:53 am
      IF Shaq and Nashty stay healthy and in shape, this team can be dangerous. A couple of big “IF’S” there.

    • mat smith Posted: Sep.25 at 9:55 am
      I follow basketball and its subtleties, differance is I dont get paid, well apart from in love tokens from you guys ;)

    • mat smith Posted: Sep.25 at 9:56 am
      oh and I cant spell

    • Jeff Fox Posted: Sep.25 at 10:00 am
      or use proper punctuation!

    • Jukai Posted: Sep.25 at 10:00 am
      Jeff: I can guarentee Marion did not show up every game last year. He may have looked like he was on offense, but TRUST me, he was letting defenders burn him all day defensively and that was NOT because he couldn’t guard them.

    • Eboy Posted: Sep.25 at 10:02 am
      And we won’t speak about his “time” in Miami.

    • mat smith Posted: Sep.25 at 10:03 am
      one of Marions main concerns in Phoenix was that Amare and Nash were on the giant billboards outside the arena and he wasnt, its in the book “7 seconds or less”, I mean if that isnt poor and really sad then I dont know, did he want to be a pop star or a basketball player? im sure Nash would have let him have the big poster were it up to him, but after a big playoff win to moan to Jack McCallum about a poster is lame and hurts team spirit

    • Young Chris MP3 Posted: Sep.25 at 10:04 am
      Everyone can hate on Diesel, but Nash was horrible in the playoffs last year. Ginobili (on his bum ankle) and Tony Parker (and the rest of the Suns team) abused him on defense whenever they saw him trying to guard.

    • Jeff Fox Posted: Sep.25 at 10:06 am
      No doubt his complaining was childish and a pain in the ass (I’ve got a story on Marion going up on the site next week)but I respectfully disagree with Jukai - I didn’t notice the dude dogging it at all. The Suns realized how much he contributed to the team after they traded him away.

    • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 10:10 am
      Premature male baldness cause lackadaisical effort in every day life. This is fact.

    • Eboy Posted: Sep.25 at 10:15 am
      POWER ALLEYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Hursty Posted: Sep.25 at 10:33 am
      Meh. Just saying that Jeff is probably in a better position to judge than a random dude.

    • Hursty Posted: Sep.25 at 10:34 am
      I agree that Marion was also not a particularly valuable asset locker-room wise, but hes not a bad person or anything. And yes he was a team captain.

    • mat smith Posted: Sep.25 at 10:36 am
      im not random, i’m mat smith i’ll have you know!

    • Jukai Posted: Sep.25 at 10:43 am
      You’re right, the casual fan who watched 97% of the games last year is not allowed to comment on an in-game issue. Thanks Hursty. Silly me.

    • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 11:03 am
      You are excused, Jukai.

    • Jukai Posted: Sep.25 at 11:26 am
      On the outside, I have nothing but love for you, TADOne. Deep down on the inside, though, I think it’s just slow, seething rage.

    • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 11:32 am
      My ex said the same thing. She was bi-polar.

    • Anton Posted: Sep.25 at 11:57 am
      Shaq will win yet another ring. yeah, you can’t do it without me…

    • Hersey Posted: Sep.25 at 12:50 pm
      I think with the Suns, it’s wait and see. Having the Shaq all year, a new coach and new rotation players means a lot of unknown variables. As far as Marion, he was going to opt out and leave PHX for nothing so a trade had to be made. I don’t believe you can publicly ask for a trade, say your relationship with the team is a bad marriage and still go all out for your teammates. If that was the case he would have been an all star last year. Despite the team’s record at the time of the trade, they weren’t playing the same style of basketball and they were regularly getting beat by the best teams in the West.

    • Jukai Posted: Sep.25 at 1:00 pm
      TADOne: she liked to have sex with bears…?

    • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 1:08 pm
      I’m an animal of some sort, but I wouldn’t call myself a Bear.

    • Jukai Posted: Sep.25 at 1:20 pm
      Bi-polar… bi-polar… oh, so YOU were dating a lesbian polar bear!

    • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 1:21 pm
      Yeah, I got that about 5 minutes later. I’m going to stab myself in the head with a pen now.

    • B. Long Posted: Sep.25 at 1:42 pm
      Do the Suns clean house if they have another first round exit this year? They should. Only Amare should be untouchable.

    • Vecgon Posted: Sep.25 at 2:52 pm
      Robin Lopez will surprise Suns fans (now including me) with his offensive skills. He was a defensive beast because that was what was called for in college.

    • Jukai Posted: Sep.25 at 3:33 pm
      Hey TADOne, if you could take twelve guys from all eras in the NBA and create one super team, who would those guys be?

    • James The Baller Posted: Sep.25 at 3:41 pm
      Barbosa to G State!!

    • nyuk nyuk nyuk Posted: Sep.25 at 5:14 pm
      I hate steve kerr. The suns arent even as fun to watch as they were two years ago. The Spurs are making a mockery out of phoenix AND shaq, they find your weaknesses they does …

    • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 5:15 pm
      Jukai: Steph, Bill Laimbeer, Xavier McDaniel, Charles Barkley, Chuck Person, Dennis Rodman, Pistol Pete, Anthony Mason, Larry Johnson, Kermit Washington, Latrell Sprewell, and Stephen Jackson.

    • Money Bill Williams Posted: Sep.25 at 5:40 pm
      what about poeye jones?

    • Money Bill Williams Posted: Sep.25 at 5:41 pm
      ^popeye

    • Money Bill Williams Posted: Sep.25 at 5:41 pm
      i the photo it looks like barbosa is laying one big boris diaw

    • Moose Posted: Sep.25 at 5:49 pm
      i’m really excited for STAT this year . . .

    • Allenp Posted: Sep.25 at 5:58 pm
      The Super Crazies

    • Anton Posted: Sep.25 at 6:11 pm
      now stop
      think about that, it ain’t about that
      it’s about B-I-G aka big Shaq that’s the difference between first and last place…

    • David Posted: Sep.25 at 7:57 pm
      If I’m Kerr, this is the last year that I try to win with this squad. I’d use this year and the off-season to try to build a better core around Stoudamire. Hold an expiring-contracts-of-formerly-great-players sale for draft picks and cap space.

    • Jukai Posted: Sep.25 at 8:18 pm
      TADONE: no Ron Ron…?

    • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 9:01 pm
      Nah, SJax has more swag.

    • Pistons Lover Posted: Sep.25 at 9:25 pm
      they won’t make the playoffs…real talk..no seriously they won’t

    • jacky leung Posted: Sep.28 at 9:26 pm
      I love this team.Phoenix SUNS rising forever.I hope Shaq should be cheer up and bring a champion ring for Phoenix,for Nash.I love you Nash.GO SUNS GO STEVE NASH!!

    • Dacre Posted: Sep.30 at 2:17 am
      i love nash too….
      go suns - finals for 2009 please.

    • Dacre Posted: Sep.30 at 2:26 am
      Nash will average 16.3 pts and 8.3 assists, good for 4th in the league in assists behind: Chris Paul 21.6 pts 10.7 as
      Ramon Sessions 14.9 pts 8.8 as
      LeBron James 27 pts 8.4 as You saw it here first….

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