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Thursday, September 25th, 2008 at 8:00 am  |  202 responses

SLAMonline Top 50: Brandon Roy, no. 28

The definitive ranking of the best players in the NBA today…

by Ryne Nelson

I’m not suggesting you give it a try, but mentally compartmentalizing NBA players can be a simple exercise:

There are the athletic freaks of nature. Volatile malcontents. Extra-efficient specialists. Cocky superstars. Non-conformist social deviants. Corny, viral video hopefuls. Long-range gunslingers. The list continues…

The process of creating mental groups allows us to comprehend what would otherwise be chaos in our mind. We do this as an automatic mind organizer – our anti-entropy filing system. To our brain, the NBA is too complex to have a single working definition. We build our conception from the ground up – players combine into groups; groups are arranged into concepts; and concepts form our opinions.

For example, we might group RayRay, Michael Redd, and Joe Johnson since they’re all deadly shooters. Defensive students of the game, Shane Battier and Tayshaun Prince fit nicely. Chris Paul, Steve Nash and Deron Williams fit for obvious reasons. Gerald Wallace, Josh Smith and Rudy Gay practically own our cranium’s amazement compartment. Baron Davis and Chris Bosh go together as they’ll likely petition for our All-Star votes for years to come.

We may combine these groups into larger, even more general groups until we finally create broad enough concepts to comprehend the NBA. It may seem difficult on paper, but when we all think ‘NBA,’ our brains do this automatically in a millisecond’s time.

I tell you this because I believe there is one player who constitutes his own group – his own concept in our minds. Yes, that player is 24-year-old Brandon Roy.

He is the single error in an otherwise flawless system. If he were to be considered a horse of a different color, that color would be clear. I find Brandon to be very frustrating and exciting at times – often both at once. You see, his most notable feature is that he doesn’t have one.

After exploring the wildest stretches of the imagination and turning the corners of the most abstract mental affiliations, I deduced the 6-6 guard is without peer no matter how you look at it. Brandon Roy is one of many great players in the League today, yet unlike the rest, his most unique attribute not only fails to stand-out, it doesn’t exist.

The fact of the matter is Brandon Roy will never be among the NBA’s most popular players. His jersey will never be come near the Top 10 sales lists in America or abroad. He’ll never be a first-round fantasy pick. He probably will never lead the League in any statistical category. And if you get your news from the late-night sports highlight reels, you’ll likely forget about Roy altogether.

He’ll never land a modeling gig with Sean John, and he’ll probably never design a signature sneaker. He’ll never get like his teammate Greg Oden and sing a piano duet with J.T. in front of a national audience.

When a system is working well, we don’t notice the nuts and bolts. But when there’s a wrench in the system, the wrench becomes our only focus. Brandon Roy stands out like a freckle – it goes unnoticed until it’s specifically being searching for. But in Brandon’s case, this freckle is a birthmark the size of a quarter – the mere fact that it’s different seems to merit our attention.

Brandon Roy is different all right. He does pretty much everything on and off the court well. He makes the right decisions – starting with his choice to pull his name out of the 2002 Draft – and exudes an air of control without speaking a word. There’s an inexplicable calm that he brings to the fore. Even the diehard basketball fan might forget Brandon is rehabbing a torn meniscus in his left knee. He’s become so reliable and professional, Blazer fans are treating the surgery like he was in for a routine physical.

Brandon’s most complex mystery is what he does best. He is not a jack of a single trade, but a prodigy who can do it all well. Therein lies Brandon’s difference again – he has no flaw to hide. In a world of specialists, Brandon is undeniably old school. Teams today have set roles for nearly every player on its roster. Brandon acts all roles equally well. Today’s manifesto highlights strengths and avoids weaknesses. Brandon Roy is the student who gets an ‘A-‘ in every subject instead of mostly ‘B’s’ and an ‘A+.’

Brandon is unlike anyone in the NBA. It’s clear he cannot be grouped with the rest of the stars in the NBA. Nor should he. He clearly is setting new standards. I thought such a unique player should have his own group – his own category. After exploring the wildest stretches of my imagination and turning the corners of my most abstract mental affiliations, I came up with nothing suiting. I slept on it, and it was obvious all along.

The category in which Brandon Roy fits perfectly is ‘Trailblazer.’

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  • Antonis Fotsis

    See in April when he loses his starting spot to RUDY!!

  • Antonis Fotsis

    seriously this guy ain’t that good as RUDY…although he won’t lose his starting spot this year…

  • Mike

    Blazer Domination: Coming Soon To An Arena Near You.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    i thought you said it was happening in april?

  • Antonis Fotsis

    it was an exaggeration(Rudy needs seasoning like Ginobili needed and Dragic will also need…)…i really like Roy as a fundamentally sound player…he could be a star in Europe, something like Antony Parker(they have a similar game)..but still Rudy is better…

  • Mike

    Man Rudys ait but Roy will murder him. You cant be too optimistic about the Euros until you see them play some NBA games. Yea I know he killed in the Olympics, but that doesnt automatically mean his game will transfer. For example, CP3 didnt do that well in China but hes like one of the 10 best players in the world right now

  • Antonis Fotsis

    simply put Rudy is Ginobili 2010 and that means better than Roy (Manu will be ranked higher than ROY even in this list although not as high as he should be : top-10 NBA)….

  • andrew

    I think I don’t like this ranking. I thought he’d go higher than this, but I’ll have to see who’s higher than him before I decide that it’s a bad ranking…

  • Tombomb

    Great article and you are spot on, if you think about it the last great all-around player was probably Pippen……..and we all know how that turned out.

  • Antonis Fotsis

    you can’t be optimistic about NBAer’s until you see them play some European games. (check what Childress has done for my team up until now…)

  • jay

    Mike: you are wrong about rudy & the olympics. How can playing against an team constructed of NBA-players not tell you anything about a player? What will Kobe shoot the ball differently or, better yet, defend any different? Think not. Best belive that rudy is teh real deal bwoy!

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @MIKE :CP3 is one of the top 5 players in the NBA now but not in the world…Manu is one of the top-5 players in the world now(and for the past 5 years) but not in the NBA. Easy to understand how this happens if you know the particularities of the NBA game…

  • Michael

    there will be someone who you would consider a lock for this list that will miss out i realise, there are more than 27 worthy players who havent been listed yet..

  • Antonis Fotsis

    and stop equalling best in the NBA with best in the world…it is not that case anymore,,,the NBA understood it so there was no “WORLDCHAMPIONS” at the Spurs championship banners…worldchamps is Spain (up until 2010-Instanbul) and Olympic champs is the U.S…

  • rikson

    good spot for a complete player… nothin but love for ROY

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    I think this top50 sh1t is messed up… its all mixed up.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    as is the vacant space inside your noggin?

  • Mike

    Jay: No Im not wrong. Speaking of KB even he didnt do that well in China. And I never said Rudys not good. Im a Blazers fan so I want him to be good. But I aint gonna get my hopes up till I see him play some NBA games.
    Antonis: Trust me cousin I know the NBA game dont worry bout that. Manus my guy but he aint top 5 in the world

  • Antonis Fotsis

    this top50 is extremely entertaining and provocative(once again great job SLAM!!)… can’t wait the list with top-50 dunker’s in the NBA….that will be crazy!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Guys, when I change a topic (or veer off course), I’ll usually do it with poise and subtlety. Your subtlety is like a bull in a china chop Antonis Fortosis.

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @MIKE..:best starting five in the world now:
    DUNKAN
    DIRK
    KOBE
    MANU
    WILLIAMS
    (you have to be a great shooter and also master of the fundamentals to make all-world team, not just freakishly athletic which is enough for all-NBA team so…no place for Lebeon’s, howard, wade and the other supermen..)

  • Antonis Fotsis

    ok, maybe i pick GARNETT over DIRK for defense reasons but my last international impressions from KG ain’t that good (2000 olympics and his overall behavior..)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    Roy is a beast man. Dude will average 20, 8, and 9 this year. He did it on nba 2k8 so I’m pretty sure he will do it in real life.

  • fluxland

    “Instanbul? Instanbul ain’t no country I ever heard of. Do they speak English in Instanbul?”

  • http://slamonline.com ctkennedy

    is he really better than vince if u got a week left in the season and u need him or vince to get u 3 out of 4 u would really take roy? he is good at everythin but he has no overall impact on the game he is better served as a sidekick watch bayless become the man portland give the ball to in the clutch cause one on one he scares the H*ll out of u

  • Antonis Fotsis

    Hursty you are right (no irony)

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @fluxland ….PERFECT!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    No arguments on this placement from me. Good work, Rynocerous. I’d take this dude on my squad all day.

  • http://ngunioamosotho.com Nguni

    roy is an all-star. rudy hasn’t played one nba game. enuff said.

  • fluxland

    Ryne, did you mean to have “After exploring the wildest stretches of my imagination and turning the corners of my most abstract mental affiliations” in there twice? I like the the line, I’m just wondering tho.

  • Mike

    Antonis: I agree thats a good starting lineup but that doesnt mean theyre the top 5 players in the world. Just means that they complement each other well. Bottom line is that Roy is better than rudy and will continue to get better. If Rudy wants to be the next Manu he will need to gain about 30 lbs and work on his handle and even then Im not sure. I like his game but to say he will take Roys spot is ridiculous at this point

  • Antonis Fotsis

    Jamal Magloire was an one-time all-star (like ROY) and at the moment Manu wasn’t even in the NBA (like Rudy now) so…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    I agree with the ranking here. If Roy doesnt have one defineable skill-set, then what about Butler, McGrady or Rashard Lewis?

  • riggs

    i wouldve had roy at least one spot higher

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    @flux: Yes, I meant to repeat the line. Thought it was a good way to help tie the end back to the beginning. :-)

  • Benoit Benjamin

    Good point Hrusty, Butler definitly fits the “traiblazer” group. I liked the post.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Its Hursty. Say in Napoleon Dynamite voice ‘jeez, urgh!’ lol

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    shut up! Antonis Fotsis… you ain’t know nothing yet, Rudy didn’t play a single nba game yet… he will start from the bench.

  • http://www.myspace.com/2536545 Bryan

    He’s good but this is gonna be a boring conversation

  • fluxland

    Ryne, thought so… while reading the whole thing the 3rd time I got the flow. Thanks.

  • Benoit Benjamin

    My bad Hursty, guess it’s my dyslexia comin’ back.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    True Bryan. Hursty OUT.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Ryne; I like the write up and the placement of citizen Roy, big applause. But I have to point one thing out, you are very wrong in one sense, I quote: “his most unique attribute not only fails to stand-out, it doesn’t exist.” Sorry my friend but imo you completely missed out on (I think everyone who’ve seen Roy play would agree)what Roy’s one unique attribute is. Namely his composure, when playing Roy is never stressed, never hurried, never hassled, never nervous, always calm, thoughtful, immaculate, precise, thorough, and controlled. Roy always play under this amazing composure, and that composure is his one unique attribute.

  • Antonis Fotsis

    how can somebody can start from the bench..?? (both start and also be on the bench…interesting)
    SLAM forums:where amazing happens!!!! (thanks simeon)

  • Mike

    Next time SLAM does a top 50 list Aldridge and Oden are gonna be on it too

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    A. Fotsis on SLAM forum, where not completely understanding the English language and still attempting to be a wiseazz happens.

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @Lz…: i agree with this also (hope i wrote correct now)

  • fluxland

    “English, MF, do you speak it?”

  • Pve84

    Could someone tell me why anyone is paying attention to Antonis Fotsis when he is clearly speaking out of his as*? I understand a European being excited about a European player. Heck, I’m excited about Rudy coming to the Blazers and I’ll think he’ll be a great addition, but saying that A) Rudy will be better than Roy without having ever seen him play in the NBA is ludicrous and B)claiming that Manu is one the best 5 players in the world but not the NBA is a clear and obvious contradiction because the last time I checked, the NBA was a part of this lovely bluish, greenish world. If he means he’s one of the top 5 best players in international competition, maybe he’s right, but that’s because the majority of NBA players who play in International competition don’t play together for extended periods of time (with the exception of the past few years), and because all of the best American players in the NBA typically don’t all represent the country at the same time. Enough of that…I’m looking forward to watching Rudy and Roy blossom and take a playoff spot out West.

  • Antonis Fotsis

    it is FM….

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    This is by far Ryne’s best writeup on the site to date. Absolutely loved it. As for Roy, he is among my favorite NBA players today. He is not up there with Ivy or Paul just yet, but he is damn close.

  • http://www.friendster.com/sesa Sesa

    Wow, Roy is better than Ray Allen…
    Really?

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    @sesa, it’s ranking from slam the great online.com, so it’s REAL…

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @ pve84…: when I say that these are different styles of basketball (NBA&WORLD) that means we are not talking about exactly the same game so somebody can be top 5 in one game and NOT top 5 at the other game , although both games have basic similarities…(this was at least the excuse the U.S.A had up until this summer for failing in international competition…)

  • Mike

    sesa: Roy IS better than Ray mane. Once we start getting national TV games people will start to see how good this dude really is

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @sesa….:not really. just on this ranking…

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Sesa: YES.

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    Antonis, where’re you from? Espana, Deutschland,…..

  • Antonis Fotsis

    din ROMANIA!!! jocul aici nu este foarte popular dar toata lumea i-place NBA.
    multumesc

  • Benoit Benjamin

    Foarte Puternic Antonis, but I still think you got carried away with that Rudy over Roy thing.

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @ Benoit :mai frate!!!!ce bucurie!!!

  • Antonis Fotsis

    si repet : Rudy nu este acum mai bun decat ROY in cea ce priveste NBA. Enough with (Romanian though…)

  • http://its-mitch.blogspot.com/ Paps

    Solid player.

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    Ah so, kommen Sie aus Romania…, ich finde Englisch Übung klase ist gut für Sie. Bitte…

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    schlampe… Antonis

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    My eyes are bleeding onto the keyboard right now A.Fotsis. Just please be quiet.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Simone your not helping things either.

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    Antonis, PLS, for Hursty’s sake…

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    I agree!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Ok I will participate- you people are behaving like osch lochs. No google translator wont help you on that.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Is everyone happy now? Everyone? You pricks…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    This really isn’t that much worse than a conversation between Aussies.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    never mind. Please just be quiet. What does PLS mean?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    At least we only speak bogan english Eboy. Much less German and Romanian.

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    c’mon guys…

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    PLS=please,

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Brandon Roy’s game is so unassuming that we have to start coversations in different languages. Nice.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Vai tomar no cú with all that international flavour guys.

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    it’s kinda late at australia for now…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Its 12:33am here now.

  • Antonis Fotsis

    PLS=please.hm….

  • KA

    I’m not sold on rudy. he’s more of a finisher than a creator compared to Manu, who actually does the breaking down of perimeter d on the spurs rather than Parker whos a more pick n roll guy. also, nice write up. I like the bit about mental compartmentalization of NBA types.

  • MSkittle

    Dwayne Wade is in his category

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    mama wants you to get on bed hursty…

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Roy is 20 times the player that Rudy is. Why the hell is everyone discussing Rudy??

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    Ask Antonis…

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    quiet morning…

  • niQ

    Rudy can play point guard while Roy plays Shooting Guard…

  • catalonian

    Brandon Roy n. 28 Gasol n. 31… incredible

  • Antonis Fotsis

    Rudy can also play small forward!! (man, i must be definitelly retarded…)

  • Antonis Fotsis

    catalonian i can feel you..

  • Antonis Fotsis

    also Navaro better than ROY (if you smell what i cook…)

  • http://www.nba.com/bucks/index_main.html Keith

    A Rock quote? This place has gone down hill…

  • pbob

    Wow, that seems pretty low for a player without a flaw. He is top 20 for sure. Oh well, I guess the rest of the league will catch on soon enough. And to all the dumb foreigners on here, yes he is better then Gasol, Rudy, Navarro (are you kidding me), and Ginoboli. And by the way, the NBA game is basketball, we made the sport up, so the way we play it is the right way. No one gives a sh/t about who is the best at your stupid imitation game that doesn’t even allow diving.

  • http://deceptivelyquick.blogspot.com JackBrown

    Top 15!

  • antonis fotsis

    you are right, i was kidding on the Navaro quote(although he ain’t that far)…diving though..?diving,diving,….diving!!!

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    There is diving in basketball? I’m American and didn’t even know that.

  • matt the jazz fan

    i’m not sure that joe johnson is such a bad comparison for b roy

  • King David

    damn right

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Johnson is a fair comparison, but he became more of a jump shooter (80 percent of his attempts were jumpers last season). Johnson’s ball-handling doesn’t really compare, either.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    While I’m not knocking Brandon Roy, and I’m sure as hell not going to raise Rudy on a pedestal but… I’m pretty sure Rudy’s not that far off from Brandon Roy. They’re pretty close in terms of skill.

  • http://www.sprint.com/sero Dma

    rudy only stands out because he’s in going nowhere memphis. roy will become a top 5 player in the nba and his game will only be compared to lebron just like how drexler and jordan were. it’s the new unspoken rival.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’ll take Roy over Rudy 366 days out of the year.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    DMA: The “rudy” talk we are going on about is Rudy Fernandez, not Rudy Gay.
    TADOne: I’d only take Roy over Rudy 297 days.

  • B. Long

    Antonis must be Rudy’s kid brother, right?

  • RedRum

    There is a category for Roy, the Tim Duncan category. Roy is the Duncan of the guards

  • Ted
  • antonis fotsis

    good point file…

  • NBK

    None of you have any idea how good brandon roy is compared to rudy fernandez…you saw rudy fernandez play inferior competition in everything you’ve seen except the olympics where he had to step up because there was no one else to do it. Rudy Fernandez is nowhere close to as good as Brandon Roy, Rudy will be competing with Jerryd for a starting spot while Brandon is Averaging around 20-5-5. Come off that Rudy is as good nonsense because that is all it is. And I didn’t like this write up too much it seemed like you just repeated yourself that he was uncategorizable (?)

  • B Deezy

    out of all the ppl who post about their favorite player or team, how many of ‘em actually play…im just sayin’

  • NBK

    5 days a week

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Thank you for clearing all of that up, NBK. I can now continue my day with a clear conscious.

  • Mackenzie

    Brandon Roy is something different he has no flawess and can do it all. What every the team needs he has it. If the team needs a defensive stop he will get it for you. or a clutch shot Brandon Roy is your man.

  • catalonian

    pbob, we talk about BASKETBALL, you talk about “street-doping-travellingball” (NBA today). I’m sorry pbob, :)

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Wow, Brandon really does deserve better than what these comments have materialized to.

  • http://www.basketallboys.blogspot.com TIP

    RUDY SUCKS BALLS

  • antonis fotsis

    @catalonian….street-doping-traveling!!!!(that was cruelly precize,but don’t get that fast at this stuff, people here still think that lebron,howard etc have a rectangular face with no reason at all… ) men there is no coincidence what Spain has achived the last 20 years…people can really understand basketball there…may favorite player: Juan Antonio San Epifanio(hope i spelled correct!!!)
    hola!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com 9th Wonder

    Somtimes staying in college for four years helps out the young guys. Roy is the perfect example of a four year guy that got better every year when he was in college. The next Roy of college basketball? Terrence Williams of Louisville.

  • Rudy

    this really was amazing to read.

  • luvshaq

    anyone up for some pick-up-street-doping travellingball tonight?

  • luvshaq

    do they jump off the wrong foot in Spain? I heard they do that in Italy..

  • antonis fotsis

    @luvshaq…:ask Dwight Howard on this !!!!

  • http://alloutblitz.com Cordeazy

    I’m sorry, what exactly has Spain achieved?

  • starbury&stevey

    @antonis fotsis is a greek player,do you speak greeks too?

  • matt the jazz fan

    world champs

  • antonis fotsis
  • antonis fotsis

    milao ligo

  • antonis fotsis

    and they are also the current world champs…(thanks matt)

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    roy is that dude, but the preview was just awful. awful, ryne, awful

  • LA Huey

    I love B-Roy’s game. Bennett taking my team has its plus-side: I can take my cheers down south without remorse.

  • starbury&stevey

    @ antonis,o rudy den einai me kamia panagia kaliteros apo ton ROY,o ROY kanei ta pada sto portland,sto NBA, oxi stin ispaniki league…exei psomia akoma o rudy…giafto kopse na ton ektheiazeis,do i speak difficult greeks?

  • antonis fotsis

    i understood everything filarako !!! although i think that Diamantidis is slightly better than both of them…(not in the NBA, generally speaking..). maybe they got more potential than mitsaras cause they are more explosive athletes but…

  • antonis fotsis

    anyway ,i said from the beggining that Rudy is not better NOW…(he needs seasoning and some other stuff)

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Just remember Tarzan: if you were me, seven to ten people would be lashing out at you right now!

  • http://ethosstrategygroup.com Patrick Lok

    These rankings are purely subjective, but Brandon Roy is one of my favorite players to watch in the game right now.

    The fact that he always seems to be in control, never in a hurry, makes me think Tim Duncan playing guard.

  • tinchek

    old school.
    i like that :)

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Moose in da house!

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    skazmos vlamenos

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Money, what does that mean?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    yeh, money bill, i would be happy to take you up on your offer of small talk right now.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    it means shutup you idiot in greek, not sure of the spelling though, and it was aimed in no one in particular

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    ok moose…..soooooooooo you like stuff?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    yeh, cool. so uhhhhh yeh come up with somethin to talk bout and i’d love to talk to you, but that just won’t cut it man. sorry for pointing out your failure ;)

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    moose, you checked out my blog, that could be a conversation point till BET gets here

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    i “checked out” your blog? i didn’t leave any comments or nuthin . . . how’d you know that?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    money bill, you can ponder my question till i get back from doing stuff for a half an hour . . . peace!

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    yeah i gotta drive into work in a second

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    moose, i know everyting that ever happened, ever!

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    seriously, money, how’d you know? you got a tracker or sumthin?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    or did you just guess hoping that i had?

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    moose, it was a question not a a statement, i had no idea you checked it out, but thanks for doing that

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    whats the go in beantown anyway?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Sorry Money, i save the brain for school and don’t bother using it outside.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Not much, Money. Red Sox doing good, Patriots in a tight situation. Other than that, the going’s slow. How’s Sydney?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    or wherever else in Australia where you live. i don’t know my australia very well, i know it’s its own continent . . .

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    On a completely different note, to any SLAMonline writers: When should we expect a Thunder uni to come out? The season starts in a little over a month.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    Im 1 hr away from sydney in a place called wollongong. its sh!t atm, footy team out of finals, bball team off to bad start for season and im stuck in an office on a hot as fu(k spring day with my suit and tie on doing tax returns

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    is brady out for season?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    yeh, Brady is out for the year. tore his ACL and MCL. we handed the reins to Matt Cassel, a guy who I’m not quite sure about . . . you’re at work?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    oh yeh, different time zones. and it’s fall for us right now . . . and 7:47 PM.

  • Bortros

    G’Day from Canberra (boring I know) Admittedly I only saw Rudy torch Williams/posterise Howard in the Gold Medal game so I don’t know much about him…but can we really compare an All Star to an NBA Rookie?

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    its 9:58 in the AM on friday and my boss is away, so im on slam and not doing any work lol

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    you guys on holidays?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    cool, that works for you. is he usually looking over your shoulder to see if your doin your work or sumthin? i don’t have any experience, being too young for a job.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Whatchu mean by that, Money?

  • tealish

    A- in all subjects is a good description of BRoy. Similarly, Odom gets B-’s across the board. They’re somewhat similar in that they don’t have a particular trait that stands out. However unlike LO, BRoy shows up for every test whereas you’ll see Incompletes scattered among LO’s B-’s.

  • Tom

    Roy’s definable characteristic is that he is a closer in the same vein as Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant. I have watched a lot of basketball and Brandon Roy can close a fourth quarter better than anyone other than the two HOFers I mentioned. To question him being better than Vince Carter or Ray Allen tells me that A) you haven’t watched Cater play in three years and B) that you haven’t watched Roy play in a game. I actually disagree with the sentiment of the article because when the Blazers are competing for titles it will be Roy who is the star and best player on those teams.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    is your school on holidays? coz the schools here started on holidays today

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Nah, we don’t go on holidays until Xmas . . . I guess the american and australian schools don’t go together for that one.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    And remember, I’m not in college or anything, maybe that’s what you’re thinking of. I’m pretty young.

  • David

    Brandon Roy is the reincarnation of Joe Dumars, the player.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    I’m out for the night. If BETCATS shows up, tell him that I’m sorry that I can’t talk wit him. And Money Bill try and get some work done. Make me and your boss proud. Good evening and good night.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Oh boy! Being a Pistons fan, I should love the comparison. However, Roy and Dumars are nothing alike really. Actually, let me take that back. They are alike in that they both never get rattled. Cool customers under pressure. But their actual games are nothing alike.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    nah moose, the universities dont get holidays for another six weeks i think, which means another month and bit of night school for me. Im talking bout high schools going on hols. And im getting some work done, just not much!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Yeh…. holidays. I’ve been on them for close on a week now. Good times.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Give him a year or two and ROY is definitely going to be a top 20, if not top 10 ball player. It hurts that the Raptors passed on him for Andrea Bargnani =(…

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    whats going on hursty?

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    Teddy, top 20 definetly, top 10 might be pushing it but could happen

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=627550406 KA

    oh wow, the tim duncan of guards is pretty good actually. i love tims game but hes is pretty bland.

  • Jeter

    This might be too low for Brandon Roy.

  • J-Hern

    antonis fotsis, before you feel the urge to type another message, please read pbob’s comment again.. For anyone to say that Rudy is going to take Roy’s spot is completely oblivious to the game of basketball and the Blazers organization.. Everyone in here is that much dumber after reading your idiotic posts. Now go in the corner put your head down.

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @Money Bill…it is written :skasmos vlamene!!
    and get back to work…!!!(this is the reason why my employees have blocked access to most internet sites during work time…)
    kali mera kai kali douleia kai TGIF!! (meaning:have a nice day at work and TGIF!!)

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    thanks for clearing that up antonis, i can’t stay mad at you my compatriot, even though im aussie i still got my greek roots!

  • Antonis Fotsis

    if you are aussie i got a question for you on a player…at the final of world juniors championship of 1995 there was a player for the australian team that almost won the game by himself..he was great,he made 7-8 3-pointers and nobody could stop him, i mean he was amasing…i followed the Australian team for the next years and only Sam McKinon (great leaper!!) made the men’s squad. But i am telling you that other guy was 10 times better than McKinon then…his name was Aaron Traher (or something like that…)if somebody knows something about him PLS( simone.!!!)give me some info…

  • Petter

    Jag tycker att det är alldeles för lite engelska skriven i dessa kommentarer. Vad hände med den unversiella förståelsen för varandras åsikter och tankar?

    Really, stop posting in non-english people! And why are washed-up players like Sheed and Ason ranked so high, this ain´t the list of 2003 right?

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    aaron trahair is his name. he id s bit old now and got waived by my wollongong hawks after a couple of games last season. he came to wollongong having not played for a month, was overweight, slow and old and did not fit the defensive minded hawks. i can’t find any current info on him but due to his low productivity levels with the hawks i can’t see him playing in the NBL again. He was awesome with the Kings and razorbacks though back in the early 2000′s

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    and were abouts in greece are you from?

  • Antonis Fotsis

    though from Romania (Zimnicea, judetul Teleorman) i stayed in Greece (Athens and also near Sparta) for over 10 years (late 80′s to early 00′s) and i got stuck with greek basketball . here everybody is on football ,our best basketball export is Muresan(!!!). Anyway ,Trahair in this tournament was out of this world and Australia made it to the final. We won the championship back then though, we destroyed a U.S. team led by Marbury, Carter, and Samaki Walker(!!!). Tremaine Fawlkes was their best player at the tournament…

  • Antonis Fotsis

    Thanks a lot for the Trahair info!!

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    no worries, kali nictah ( if thats how you spell it )

  • Antonis Fotsis

    kali nihta!

  • Antonis Fotsis

    @J-Hern…out of my corner now ,though you made me feel i know nothing about basketball…which isn’t that far from true…
    (So,there you have it ,i made you famous!!!)

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    twelve hours later and still going strong, huh Money Bill? And I wouldn’t be on “holidays” anyway, seeing that I’m not in high school. I’m 13.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    oh k, yeah im devoted moose

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    as am i, money bill.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    cool

  • Daniel

    how dare u say b-roy isnt gona be all this and that
    i garuntee you that he will be dominating the L in the next 3-5 years

  • Michael

    love the pun. crazy to think how things come full circle if you give em enough time – it’s now considered innovative to have old-school skills

  • csharp

    k. i can tell a lot of people here havent seen roy play or what the blazers plans for the future is with their lineup. roy will not lose his starting spot to rudy,rudys gonna come off the bench like manu. roy is a very cerebral player and is the teams playmaker and leader. eventually roy might play point and rudy at guard or rudy at the 3.just watch some blazer games and see how this team actually plays before commenting

  • Gerry

    Roy at 28?? Sorry but this list makes no sense. Roy is a top 20 player.

  • CL SMOOTH

    I’ve seen B.R. play in person three times. AANYBODY who thinks he’s going to lose his starting spot or his place as the face of the franchise is really, really on that white.

  • josh

    Roy was second all nba team… he is top 10 player

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