SLAMonline Top 50: David West, no. 44

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• will Posted: Sep.6 at 8:18 am
  first!!

• ace Posted: Sep.6 at 8:22 am
  first

• Moose Posted: Sep.6 at 8:28 am
  good choice. and as his career progresses, he will slowly creep up this list.

• Moose Posted: Sep.6 at 8:29 am
  but i think he belongs more in the thirties . . .

• j rich Posted: Sep.6 at 8:37 am
  New Orleans are gonna be dangerous this year, a big part of it due to David West. 44 is a bit low, espescially considering some of the players that will most likely be ranked above him.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 8:41 am
  The first all-star to appear on the list…. thanks Khalid. I like your personal insights especially.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 8:53 am
  I first became aware of West in 2006 or so( didnt follow the college game back when he was playing) when he started hitting those buzzer beaters for N.O and putting up bigger numbers, his game really blossomed with CP but I think that he would have developed quite well even without Paul, not as an all-star calibre player but a reliable and above average forward. Chandler on the other hand…. well he was nice for the bulls but he really improved with Paul-just amazing the difference the quality of point guard makes to a big mans production.

• Young Chris MP3 Posted: Sep.6 at 9:15 am
  So I’m expecting Tyson Chandler to be 42 or 40 then.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 9:17 am
  Are you actually YCMP3? If thats a joke its in poor taste. Chandler just isn’t that good. Certainly not as important to the success of the Hornets as West is.

• Lucas Posted: Sep.6 at 9:18 am
  So, I’m not expecting Tyson Chandler to make the list because there is no way he is more valuable to New Orleans then David West.

• scott Posted: Sep.6 at 9:20 am
  I’m interested to see who is going to be in the top forty of this list. Most of these guys (except for Prince) should be much higher on this list.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 9:22 am
  Im waiting for Ron Artest to pop up around 27-30. Tmac somewhere in the mid to late teens and mid twenties around 14-26 I think and Yao in the top 10. As much as the rockets have been doing good without him its obvious in the playoffs thats where his true importance lies and the rockets post season success as well.

• Lz - Cphfinest3 Posted: Sep.6 at 9:24 am
  Think 44 is about right for West. Nice read Khalid, although I find that “You can surely make a case for West having a higher place on this list but I feel his name is still so unknown that even basketball writers underestimate him.” is a bad argument. West’s fame among BBall writers shouldn’t have anything to do with where you rank him. On the Chandler-West discussion, I find that they are equally important for the Hornets and about on the same level as players. West is that reliable second option. Whereas Chandler patrols the paint. Without each other both players deficiencies would be much more obvious imo.

• scott Posted: Sep.6 at 9:25 am
  Of the players on this list so far Josh Smith is the best by far. Who wouldn’t pick Smith first if they were starting a team from scratch?

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 9:28 am
  Ryne Nelson says:
  @TAD: This was the criteria, more or less…
  * 50 best players in the NBA today, right now
  * Guys who provide the most value to their teams
  * Completely, utterly your opinion

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 9:37 am
  BEST is the key word here. Chandler is not one of them. Never has been. Probably never will unless he learns how to shoot a jumpshot.

• scott Posted: Sep.6 at 9:38 am
  Just my opinion Hursty but Smith is just so talented that you gotta take a chance with him. You know what you are getting out of Prince or West but Smith is still just 22.

• B. Long Posted: Sep.6 at 9:45 am
  I would’ve rather had David West on the Olympic squad then Carlos Bozzer. I realize he just blew up the past couple of season and the team required a three year comittment but I’m just being picky.

• Bryan Posted: Sep.6 at 9:46 am
  I can’t argue with this one

• a_whiteman Posted: Sep.6 at 9:49 am
  love david west his style efficient and effective, without him scoring the hornets wouldnt be at there spot. But, dirk still ripped him in that series despite the slap

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 9:50 am
  Boozer never blew up prior to the last two seasons either. The cavs were just dog-awful. Nah I agree with you Scott but it’d still be a nice starting 5 though. The only other guy I would consider starting a franchise with is Monta Ellis then Martin. But Smith first off.

• a_whiteman Posted: Sep.6 at 9:51 am
  so this means no tyson on the list?

• Lz - Cphfinest3 Posted: Sep.6 at 9:52 am
  Boozer is so overrated. I would pick West over him any day.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 9:56 am
  @ a-whiteman: fu*k no.
  @Lz- Boozer is a jerk. Fu(king Judas….
  Boozer makes my top 5 most hated list in the NBA. Obviously.

• ticktock6 Posted: Sep.6 at 9:58 am
  As someone who watched every Hornets game last season, I think it’s correct that everyone’s improved by playing with Chris Paul. But it’s also correct that, unlike Chandler, West has the ability to create his own offense and doesn’t rely on just getting the ball dumped to him down low by CP. Chandler is one of my fave guys on the team, a monster defender who leaves a huge hole when he’s not on the floor, but West is more important to the Hornets in my opinion. He also is dangerous from multiple spots on the floor as opposed to TC’s one. The reason he gets so little cred, IMO, is he’s quiet about it. He’ll have a flashy dunk once in a while. But a lot of times I don’t even notice he’s got 28 points and then I look at the stats and think, “Really? When?” And he’s consistent. I’d like to see the stat on the number of times he’s scored the first six points of the game for the Hornets. He’s the #2 guy. (As offensive options, it’s 1- CP, 2- West, 3- Peja, 4- Tyson, but as overall players you have to flip Tyson and Peja.)

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 10:03 am
  Good stuff TT6. Doesnt help that Chandler cant hit a jumpshot to save himself. And he cant pass out of the double team ( although it rarely comes) with under 1 assist as a career average. West is waay more valuable.

• WOOOZE Posted: Sep.6 at 10:03 am
  I would rank Ty Chandler above Marcus Camby.
  Ty might pop up between 43-40, but after the 40s you can be pretty sure he won’t make the list.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 10:05 am
  For all his athleticism though Chandler averages only 1.4 blocks for his career and just 1.1 this season so I dunno what that says about his actual defense. Ideas? anyways, Im out. Have a good one fellas.

• Lz - Cphfinest3 Posted: Sep.6 at 10:08 am
  Hursty; Agree Boozer is All-World Jerk no doubt about it. On another note, I’m watching the Danish BBall national team getting their asses handed to them by Austria.. Austria – man we suck at BBall.. Seems like the whole team have attended Dwight Howard’s free throw clinic..

• WOOOZE Posted: Sep.6 at 10:09 am
  Hursty, Ty’s a monster defender. He’s a team orientated defender, and he doesn’t just go out there to make flashy defensive plays and get weak side blocks.

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Sep.6 at 10:22 am
  Just curious – Would anyone rate Chandler *above* West?

• Lz - Cphfinest3 Posted: Sep.6 at 10:27 am
  Ryne; Different strengths, I would rate them on the same level. But certainly not above.

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Sep.6 at 10:34 am
  @Lz: Personally (and this is just me), I wouldn’t put Chandler above West. Chandler’s great an all, but he only does two things well: dunk and rebound. DWest has a little bit of everything in his game; a much more polished player.

• Jeter Posted: Sep.6 at 10:43 am
  Too plain yet too effective

• Lz - Cphfinest3 Posted: Sep.6 at 10:56 am
  Ryne; I totally agree. West has far more tools on O. Still Chandler brings a lot to the team, with his presence on D. Also it’s easier to get a scoring forward, whereas a rebounding/D beast like Tyson is harder to come by. Think about it this way, the Hornets will probably have a tougher time replacing Tyson than West in case of injury. Really I don’t know which one of the two I would pick if I was going to war. Therefore I would rate them evenly.

• Lz - Cphfinest3 Posted: Sep.6 at 10:58 am
  I guess my point is: In terms of skill West is certainly better, but skill alone doesn’t make the player. And as players they are neck and neck.

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Sep.6 at 11:10 am
  Lz, I think Khalid does a great job of reinforcing your last point. It’s almost overwhelming when you consider all the ways a player can provide value to a team.

• overtime Posted: Sep.6 at 11:13 am
  In terms of skill and effectiveness, and value to his team, he probably is higher up the list, but in terms of ‘stardom’ and ‘reputation’ this prob this is right, but he will creep up due to both if the Hornets remain intact

• scott Posted: Sep.6 at 11:44 am
  West is way ahead of Chandler. Chandler gets most of his points off of CP3. I’m not saying that playing with Paul doesn’t help West but West has way more offensive skill then Chandler.

• foilfence Posted: Sep.6 at 12:06 pm
  @Hursty here’s a post at hornets247 about chandler “only” averaging 1 bpg and therefore being a bad defender. http://www.hornets247.com/post.php?id=247274

• Luke M Posted: Sep.6 at 12:10 pm
  d-west is a rock solid player. he put on a lot of muscle in the last 2 years, now he holds his own down low no problems, and can get by bigger forwards off the step.
  he complements the team perfectly, it’s sick how well the Hornets are put together

• B. Long Posted: Sep.6 at 12:19 pm
  Something that wasn’t really covered in the artical is that David also isn’t afraid to take a big shot at the end of games. I know I saw him hit at least 3 game winners last year. That’s pretty rare for a forward.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.6 at 1:13 pm
  David West SHOULD really be higher on this list. He is fearless, classy, and plays without care for flash and media attention (a good thing that many players lack). He’s a great team player and he has one of the most finesse, smooth post moves out of almost all the power forwards in the league. He’s also getting really strong and ALWAYS improving. Dude is underrated, no doubt. I expect to see him blow up this list in the next few years, mos def.

• Mo Posted: Sep.6 at 1:16 pm
  Khalid have you stood next to West to know he’s smaller than 6’9″, 240? Are you bigger than West?

• Mo Posted: Sep.6 at 1:23 pm
  Good post ticktock. I’ve watched every Hornets game last season as well and you hit the nail on the head. Especially about West being quiet about it.

• Kamran Posted: Sep.6 at 1:24 pm
  to low for west he should be top 30

• John D Posted: Sep.6 at 1:41 pm
  Dirk didn’t try to “physically impose upon him.” You just have some weird hatred for Dirk.

• DP Posted: Sep.6 at 1:42 pm
  I would put david in this range as well because he is just starting to play at an all-star level. He should be able to keep it up with CP running the show. I just wonder would we be talking about him in the top 50 at all if it wasn’t for CP3?

• DP Posted: Sep.6 at 1:44 pm
  no one has “weird” hatred for Dirk. If he’s a P*$$y then he’s a P*$$y. soft as eggs.

• Mo Posted: Sep.6 at 1:48 pm
  I’m guessing Chandler must not be making this Top 50 list at all then because even though I consider Chandler a Top 50 player, he’s not a better player than West.

• the baconator Posted: Sep.6 at 2:06 pm
  @DP: Although CP3 had a big part, I bet he would’ve been on this list regardless. There’s only so much a point guard can do for his team; the rest has to be the player himself. I think D-West should’ve been higher though, cuz although he’s relatively unknown, the skill’s still there

• DP Posted: Sep.6 at 2:27 pm
  agreed baconator. In the playoffs last year David showed off when CP3 wasn’t bringing in it in some games. I just don’t think the all-star game is his type of game and that’s why he didn’t do much. He is really a smart, skilled player with little flash. That is a good thing because you know he is going to work and get you points the ole fashion way. 3 the hard way.

• the baconator Posted: Sep.6 at 3:08 pm
  That’s what I love about West, DP. He’s not flashy, just a solid player who does the right thing at the right time. His game’s built on fundamentals, which is exactly what every team needs. Well put

• namik Posted: Sep.6 at 3:34 pm
  It amuses me to see CP given credit for David West and him becoming an All-Star. In fact i believe “he MADE David West an All-Star” was a primary argument in favor of his MVP candidacy. But everytime I watched him play, especially in the playoffs, I saw DWest get the ball in the post and absolutely rip his defender apart with his jumper or strong moves to the basket. CP MAKES Tyson C with his well timed oops and passes. Without Paul, Chandler wouldn;t be half as effective offensively as he is now. David West gets the ball and creates for himself. Sure having a super-pg helps. Obviously. But Chris Paul didn’t make David West an All-Star. Dirk and Timmy would agree.

• mat smith Posted: Sep.6 at 4:06 pm
  yeah, he definately reminds me of a young timmy, which can only be a good thing, more selfless players letting their game speak for itself please

• Darksaber Posted: Sep.6 at 5:36 pm
  “Taking off Dirk’s skirt” eh, Khalid? And that gets him points in your book? That was a punk move by a player who did not need to retaliate. And no call was made. I’d rather he would have thrown a forearm or semi punch like most of the multimillion dollar players do nowadays when they wanna fake being aggravated. (i see you Melo). At least Dirk Werner wasn’t dumb enough to openly retaliate like he did. May the curse of Billy King continue to haunt you…. Apart from that, good player, great offensive skill set, love the jumper. and if we are on that level of rating, i LOVE Horry for smashing the hurt spine to incapacitate him. Bowen must have taught him that. Payback’s a biatch, right David?

• Darksaber Posted: Sep.6 at 5:46 pm
  DP: don’t start with the unrealistic Dirk hate ok? “soft as eggs” does not get a high ankle sprain and return 16 days later (although the estimate was him being out for a month) in time to solidify his teams playoff position. “Soft as eggs” Does not man up and battle the best frontcourt players in the sport on any given night, although he’s labeled to be a subpar defender, and still hold his own. Soft as eggs, does not play every summer tournament since 2004 for his country, being the focus of EVERY opposing team’s defensive “strategy” (basically hacking, triping, hitting and whatnot) and still come through (as the only viable offensive option, mind you sir) 9 out of 10 times. He might not be able to carry the load every night (yeah, as if Kobe was in the finals) but he is a bonafide PLAYER. You guys can punk him for all you need irks most Americans who see him play (guessing him being european and still dominating like no other foreigner since Akeem kinda hurts hmm?), but HE…IS…NOT…SOFT.

• Darksaber Posted: Sep.6 at 5:53 pm
  “courage, strength and honor”… Wow Khalid, so in your eyes Dirk needed to haul out and duke it out with Davey boy to be courageous, full of honor and very strong? Sure, being suspended for 2, 3 games woulda been very courageous of him. What a weak line.

• albie1kenobi Posted: Sep.6 at 5:59 pm
  ahhh… that Horry back pick. good memories.
  seriously though, he’s like a lesser version of the Big Fundamental (whom i’m a big fan of), as witness by that dunk/block sequence on duncan in last year’s playoff. he’s the quiet assassin type. he doesn’t have the all-star look but he certainly has all-star game. (i’d still say he got picked last year coz the game was in N.O., just like sean elliot was an all-star when the game was in S.A.)

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.6 at 5:59 pm
  @ scott: Dude, Prince should be higher too kid.

• DP Posted: Sep.6 at 6:07 pm
  darksaber, calm down. dirk is a good “soft” player. it’s not that serious.

• albie1kenobi Posted: Sep.6 at 6:13 pm
  melo’s career took a terrible change of direction because of that weak-ass slapped on collins (he got suspended for 30 games and AI got traded to denver mostly coz of that), so it would have been a good idea for dirk to slap david west back? right. sometimes i wonder if some of you guys have any logical sense. i suppose hate doesn’t require logic.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.6 at 6:20 pm
  And let this be clear: David West in his prime > Dirk in his prime.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.6 at 6:25 pm
  @ albi: I’m pretty sure his suspension was for 15 games, not 30. And I’m not quite sure if Melo has reached his real prime yet. He’s still young.

• DP Posted: Sep.6 at 6:35 pm
  I’m saying stand up for your damn self and not look like a complete idiot. No one said hit David west till he begged for mercy…just stand up for yourself. maybe I was watching a different game but I didn’t see Dirk do anything. not even say, hey man watch your hands dude. nothing. no hate for dirk. I love watching him play the game. He just didn’t have any courage. period. yeah like you can get suspended for standing up for yourself. bullsh*t.

• DP Posted: Sep.6 at 6:47 pm
  That wasn’t a weak line by khalid, saber. The man was just saying that Dirk should have stood up for himself and not take that backseat like he has done for the past couple of years. You could say he is the leader of the team and he needs to set an example for the rest of his teammates but them watching him punk out like that doesn’t make them feel like they are being lead by one of the L’s top players. Who said he was going to have courage by fighting? He wouldn’t be suspended for 2 or 3 games by simply telling David get your hands out my damn face.

• TADOne Posted: Sep.6 at 7:05 pm
  Good stuff Khalid. I love David West’s game and the Hornets are a legit 2 guard away from being perennial contenders.

• BETCATS Posted: Sep.6 at 7:43 pm
  i kinda think that i would put Chandler at number 44 and D-West at like 30 but good read by Khalid.

• Bruno Posted: Sep.6 at 7:57 pm
  oh man, 44 is too low for him… but i won’t complain after all the “Dirk” part
  that was “a beauty”. loved. i’m still laughin here.
  i think west and the hornets are gonna be really tough to beat this season. they got rid of MoPete, didn’t they?

• Bruno Posted: Sep.6 at 8:00 pm
  and after west being #44, i relly don’t want to see litte dirk between the best 30 players in the league.

• Bruno Posted: Sep.6 at 8:17 pm
  tough man…. i’m trying to pick the top player of each team to start my tp50 league… and tough
  with david west#44, a lot of people has to be left off…
  and please, DON’T include rookies. the rule #1 should be, minimum 10 games or being Greg Oden.

• Bruno Posted: Sep.6 at 8:19 pm
  *top playerS of each team

• ciolkstar Posted: Sep.6 at 8:21 pm
  I’m not a big Dirk fan at all, but Khalid went overboard on this one. I dont respect West for disrespecting Dirk, speak with you game not some classes gesture. The Timmy comparison is a big stretch. The guy can score in multiple ways and has gotten physically stronger, but he doesn’t impact a game like Duncan. But he was unstoppable with the midrange J in the Spurs series. He could be higher on this list but its not an exact science.
  (and yes Horry putting that back pick on West was badass, that’s how you go at someone. Keep it within the context of the game)

• Darksaber Posted: Sep.6 at 8:22 pm
  Ok DP. calming down as we speak.

• ciolkstar Posted: Sep.6 at 8:22 pm
  I’m not a big Dirk fan at all, but Khalid went overboard on this one. I dont respect West for disrespecting Dirk, speak with you game not some classless gesture. The Timmy comparison is a big stretch. The guy can score in multiple ways and has gotten physically stronger, but he doesn’t impact a game like Duncan. But he was unstoppable with the midrange J in the Spurs series. He could be higher on this list but its not an exact science.
  (and yes Horry putting that back pick on West was badass, that’s how you go at someone. Keep it within the context of the game)

• Darksaber Posted: Sep.6 at 8:24 pm
  @ciolk & albie: THANK YOU.

• Caleb Posted: Sep.6 at 8:33 pm
  Blocks per game is not a good measure of a person’s defensive ability. It can give a hint of it, but that’s about it. Think about how many blocks a whole team generates in a game. 4-8? That’s not a whole lot… and thus, it’s not nearly as important as *contesting* and *altering* shots. It’s dramatic, and fun to watch.. but blocking is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to a big man’s defensive skill set. And let’s not forget that big men who do garner 2-4 blocks a game often garner 4-6 fouls to go along with those 2-4 blocks.

• BETCATS Posted: Sep.6 at 8:37 pm
  I would take West over Dirk any day of the week. Sure Dirk got that 3 ball, but he is not clutch, and the ball needs to be kept AWAY from him in the later, more important part of any game

• Ben Osborne Posted: Sep.6 at 9:15 pm
  Good stuff, K.

• Coach Godwin Posted: Sep.6 at 9:52 pm
  Well written!!! http://www.jumpstarthoops.com

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 10:09 pm
  Um apart from the Finals and the last playoff series Dirk was pretty damn clutch. Even this year he had a few game winners one especially against Utah with the 3 for the win- not the tie.
  @ everyone who responded to Chandlers defense- thanks for your replies, but, like many people I didnt get to watch ANY Hornets games this year. I wasnt questioning his defensive ability, just asking what that meant for his defense as a whole. I just expected that for all his athletic abilities he would have more than one block a game.

• Gerard Himself Posted: Sep.6 at 10:23 pm
  Godwin, do you have to mention that website at every post you make? Isn’t it linked to your name? Spam I say!

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 10:26 pm
  Nice link foilfence. Enjoyed reading that.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 10:30 pm
  Yeh no sh*t Gerard. ( I’m a bit of a hypercrit(sp?) as well though).

• DP Posted: Sep.6 at 11:39 pm
  Ya boy is back! everyone click on my name. my first post on hibachi 2.0 in over a damn month or so. bout time.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.6 at 11:43 pm
  DP why the he1l could anyone care about your HS? btw, your Varsity Hoops team is shooort.

• DP Posted: Sep.6 at 11:51 pm
  how do you know we are short? and just read the post. it came from the heart.

• Hursty Posted: Sep.7 at 12:27 am
  I read it man. Just that your name is linked to the school, not ‘Bachi.

• Banno Posted: Sep.7 at 12:45 am
  C’mon slam, you just put an all-star from last season at 44!

• Ross Posted: Sep.7 at 3:29 am
  If DIrk was half the player West was they’d have a ring …

• Matt Caputo Posted: Sep.7 at 9:16 am
  Kha, you did a great job here, but there is no way David West is better than Marcus Camby.

• dj ho Posted: Sep.7 at 9:28 am
  hey can you guys include a list of the top 50 so far? i missed a couple of them and want to read the posts. Also, d-west deserves a much higher spot on your list…he was killing it in the playoffs until rob horry took him out

• Darksaber Posted: Sep.7 at 10:05 am
  Guess big shot rob is not just a nickname describing his crunchtime abilities

• scott Posted: Sep.7 at 3:45 pm
  @dj ho
  50. Kevin Durant
  49. Kevin Martin
  48. Marcus Camby
  47. Josh Smith
  46. Monta Ellis
  45. Tayshaun Prince
  44. David West

• jk_light Posted: Sep.7 at 4:13 pm
  Khalid,
  writing about David West and still hating on Dirk in about a third of the write-up???
  Did Dirk get together one too many times with your girl or what?
  Your hate on this man is beyond ridicolous. I see some reasons why one would say, Dirk is soft, not clutch, not a Superstar, etc. But I saw him more than enough to know he is not.
  If Dirk would be as tough as the Oaktree, Clutch as Larry Legend and could defend like KG than we would talk about the second greatest player ever (MJ still first).
  Some could write about David West being a great Ball Player without personal hate getting in their way.
  Slam is so great, but why is this guy called Khalid on your payroll???

• Bruno Posted: Sep.7 at 5:10 pm
  guys… any of you tried to make a list?
  is shaq included?!?!?! just askin cause i finished mine and saw her name left off… it was kinda of weird but, truth.

• scott Posted: Sep.7 at 5:57 pm
  @bruno…Shaq wouldn’t be in the top 75.

• Holiday Posted: Sep.7 at 7:30 pm
  Wow, I just seen the list and Deron Williams isn’t on it! That is the most rediculous thing ever I mean Tony Parker is on there, seriously Deron was unbeliveable No Love for Utah I guess, oh and everybody picks CP3 over him and it’s a decent argument but in case you didn’t notice Deron Destroys him in head to head match ups it’s not even close but he dosen’t make the top 50??????

• Big Ups Posted: Sep.7 at 8:11 pm
  great pick..West just turned 28 so he has time to be even better than he is now..don’t know what’s up with all the “Dirk hate”..I’m a big fan of both West and Dirk (even though I agree with most that he’s soft) I loved the face tap West gave him in the playoffs..for those who are clueless as to why he did it, it was because Dirk threw an elbow that almost caught West in the face after the whistle blew so ppl who are upset about what he did need to get a f*ckin clue..i’m pretty sure if you had a 7-0 260 lb guy throwin an elbow at your face your reaction may have been worse than a face tap..where can i find the articles on the rest of the ppl on the list?

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.7 at 8:49 pm
  Ahaha Khalid is gon’ be pissed somethin’ terrible with that one, jk_light. Take it easy, son.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.7 at 8:52 pm
  Anyways, its going to be hard finding 43 players better than both David West and Tayshaun Prince…

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.7 at 8:56 pm
  @ Hursty: Chandler may not block as much as other good post defenders, but he’s definitely got the ability to play good, solid defense and disrupt a lot of shots. He’s got relatively quick feet for a big man too, allowing him to keep with his mark. That’s probably the reason why he’s labeled as a “good defender”.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.7 at 8:57 pm
  Also @ Hursty: Cool it man lol, what’s Betrayal Skull Dude ever done to you?

• Bruno Posted: Sep.7 at 9:01 pm
  c’mon. deron out of the top 50?
  who would believe that?
  anyway, @scott, i know, but, isn’t it a little bit weird when you saw him dominating for so long?
  i’m not even a shaq lover, one of those who calls him the biggest center of all time or anything like this, but, when you are making a list and you just passes his name by and and think, no, i would rather go now with Al Jefferson, Camby, whatever… it was just a weird click for me.
  david west was #37 on mine. with josh smith at#40.
  i thought i would rank Josh better, but i think i was influenced by the Slam ranking
  [:P]
  another question for whoever made a list too. who would you guys pick 1st from the pistons?

• scott Posted: Sep.7 at 9:17 pm
  @bruno… Chauncey Billups should be the highest rated Piston. Billups is the most consistent player Detroit has and he makes his teammates better. Shaq is a shell of his former self but he is one of the greatest centers of all-time behind of course Chamberlain, Russell, Abdul-Jabbar and that is it O’Neal is number four.

• scott Posted: Sep.7 at 9:21 pm
  @teddy-the-bear…Prince just doesn’t do anything for me. He is the fourth best player on his team. If he were the second or third best player on a team well that team wouldn’t be any good. Plus he is just too damn skinny. Look at his splits how they drop as the season wears on. He disappeared against Boston.

• scott Posted: Sep.7 at 9:43 pm
  In my humble opinion here are 43 players better then Tayshaun Prince in no particular order
  1. Gilbert Arenas
  2. Carmelo Anthony
  3. Carlos Boozer
  4. Chris Bosh
  5. Elton Brand
  6. Kobe Bryant
  7. Chauncey Billups
  8. Caron Butler
  9. Marcus Camby
  10. Vince Carter
  11. Jose Calderon
  12. Baron Davis
  13. Tim Duncan
  14. Monta Ellis
  15. Kevin Garnett
  16. Danny Granger
  17. Rudy Gay
  18. Pau Gasol
  19. Manu Ginobili
  20. Dwight Howard
  21. Allen Iverson
  22. Andre Iquodala
  23. LeBron James
  24. Al Jefferson
  25. Joe Johnson
  26. Antawn Jamison
  27. Jason Kidd
  28. Rashard Lewis
  29. Shawn Marion
  30. Kevin Martin
  31. Tracy McGrady
  32. Steve Nash
  33. Dirk Nowitzki
  34. Chris Paul
  35. Paul Pierce
  36. Jason Richardson
  37. Amare Stoudemire
  38. Josh Smith
  39. Hedo Turkoglu
  40. Dwyane Wade
  41. Deron Williams
  42. David West
  43. Yao Ming
  the list goes on….

• Bruno Posted: Sep.7 at 9:46 pm
  i agree. billups was always my favourite, i have his jersey and everything… but like,
  the pistons have been such a disappointing team…
  and it surprised me when i finished, or almost finished the list and chauncey is at #25. i think its too low.

• Bruno Posted: Sep.7 at 9:58 pm
  i didn’t include grangerand hedo. calderon, rashard lewis and jason richardson are on hold.
  kidd is definitly out. i apologize to him, but have to left him out.
  i hope next season, i can include randy foye on my list… i like this kids game.

• Bruno Posted: Sep.7 at 10:29 pm
  ok, i’ll start my list here
  #50 – DeShawn Stevenson…. hahahahahaha
  lol just kiddin… i’m out. see you guys tomorrow.

• Holiday Posted: Sep.7 at 11:38 pm
  there are at least 5 guy’s that should have replaced other easily, like Gerald Wallace, Igudola, Josh Howard!!!!!!!

• davidR Posted: Sep.8 at 1:41 am
  if you missed any of the previous top 50, just click the features section. they’re all there

• Holiday Posted: Sep.8 at 2:31 am
  After closer review I see Josh Howard did make the list but still guy’s like Tony Parker, Adam Morrison, Barganini, Kirk Hinrich all decent players but these spots would have better use for all the players used in the “wish we had” list like Baron, Deron, Booz, Gordon, Etc!

• Holiday Posted: Sep.8 at 2:31 am
  After closer review I see Josh Howard did make the list but still guy’s like Tony Parker, Adam Morrison, Barganini, Kirk Hinrich all decent players but these spots would have better use for all the players used in the “wish we had” list like Baron, Deron, Booz, Gordon, Etc!

• chintao Posted: Sep.8 at 2:40 am
  First, I liked the West pick (although I personally might put him even higher). Whatever it takes for the Hornets to win on any given night, West will bring. He adjusts his game as required, and that’s a beautiful thing to watch. Also, I loved the random buckshot fired in the direction of the Wizard of Wurzburg. Dirk’s game is aiight, but I don’t think he has what it takes to lead a team to the promised land. He’d be a fantastic second option, though.

• will Posted: Sep.8 at 3:40 am
  are you guys going to put up the full list when your done?

• Alyssa Posted: Oct.5 at 6:39 pm
  The Internet has given way too many cowards the courage to write things they never would say to someone in person because they can do it anonymously and without worrying about confrontation. That is why it is no surprise to me that the only types that diss on Dirk openly are you media people, you’re the ones that dont have to play him every night, and watch him drop 30 on your out of shape ass. Tell me, when have you heard an NBA PLAYER call Dirk “soft”. You havent, have you. And you wont.
  You Khalid are a class-less coward.

• CL SMOOTH Posted: Oct.6 at 7:46 pm
  He’s better than Jermaine O’neal and Boozer.