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Friday, September 26th, 2008 at 8:00 am  |  264 responses

SLAMonline Top 50: Elton Brand, no. 27

The definitive ranking of the best players in the NBA today…

by Marcel Mutoni

Elton Brand is exactly who you think he should be. He doesn’t exceed expectations, and even more importantly, he never leaves you wanting more. Brand does and is just right.

Every once in a while, some guys manage to surprise us by doing more than what we thought they were capable of as basketball players, and all too often, others fail to reach the goals we set out for them. Not Elton Brand, though.

Brand was put up on this Earth to rack up 20 and 10s in the League, and that’s exactly what he’s done since the Bulls made him the first overall pick nine years ago. In fact, 20 and 10 is his career average.

Throw in a field goal percentage of slightly over 50, durability (E.B. has appeared in 83 percent of the games his teams were scheduled to play), and solid defensive numbers across the board, and you’ve got yourself a pretty strong candidate for the Hall of Fame someday.

(You’ve also got yourself someone who, all things considered, should probably have a wee bit higher ranking on this here list.)

The fact that he played on some of the most putrid teams in NBA history for a sizable chunk of his career – anyone care to revisit the wholly inglorious Tim Floyd Era? – never affected his performance; the fans always knew what they were getting from Elton.

And that is a rock-solid power forward, one of the very best in the business, and someone who quite simply deserved better than the cruel hand he was dealt for so many years by the basketball gods.

At 29-years-old, in the prime of his hoops life (and supposedly healthy), he’s now a Philadelphia Sixer, and thanks to his arrival, the passionate fans of that city expect their team to once again become a force in the Eastern Conference. It’s a feeling they haven’t experienced since a dude named Allen was performing nightly miracles for them a few years back.

There’s no reason to believe that Elton Brand will not deliver on what is expected of him, as usual.

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  • Nikos Zisis

    For the sake of ethics only, this guy shouldn’t even be at the top-50….

  • Pve84

    Hopefully he stays healthy…

  • Nikos Zisis

    For the sake of basketball he should have been ranked between 45 and 50…(come to think about it, he is ranked over Pau, Ray Allen etc.) a 6-8 power-forward….

  • MyKal

    For the sake of deal with it you p*ssy, you shouldn’t even be allowed on the internet.

  • Oli

    barkley is one of the top-3 power forwards ever and he’s not even 6-6! plus. elton definitely has longer arms! if he stays healthy, brand should be in the top-20 next year.

  • andrew

    E-Beef! i’m kind of surprised he isn’t ranked a little lower (as in mid-30s) but then again, the only Clippers game I’ve seen in the last two years was when he was only recently out from under the surgeon’s knife. From my limited knowledge, this guy has a very good post game, can shoot from beyond 15, will get you 20-10 a night, and will do it without expecting to be the highest jersey seller for his team, let alone the conference. That, and he pay-rolled a Werner Herzog film. Respeck.

  • andrew

    p.s. by out from under the surgeon’s knife I mean he was in a suit on the bench.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Now, now MyKal, play nice dear.

  • Bran

    Nightly 20/10 guy doesn’t deserve to be on this list.

    Yep.

  • MyKal

    Pretty brief post Marcel (if I may call you Marcel, if not read the first half of my previous post) but I’ll ad what you forgot to mention… nothing. But in all seriousness I hope for much success to EB and Phila (and myself as an avid Sixers fan).

  • MyKal

    Hursty, I don’t know if that’s an insult or some heartfelt advice. For the record ” I ain’t never play nice!”

  • andrew

    Nightly 20/10 is pretty freakin impressive for a guy that regularly battles dudes 4 inches taller than him for those 20/10…

  • Michael

    should be higher, this guy is a warrior

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    not an insult, just dont say anything…rash. Ryne is a good dude, but he still has to protect the site and its respectability.

  • Nikos Zisis

    Tell me i didn’t saw an Elton Brand- Charles Barkley parallelism.? some people seem to forget really fast.Barkley was…nevermind!
    by the way :welcome to the party MyKal!!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    If he wasn’t injured at the end of last season would he be higher? What about success in the playoffs?

  • andrew

    Nikos – the only comparison with Charles and Brand is that they are both undersized, and both played basketball in Philadelphia.

  • andrew

    Also, I think there was no actual comparison regarding Sir Charles, beyond the height thing, in Oli’s defense.

  • Michael

    this list is getting silly, how the hell is brand not one of the best 20 guys in the league…

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    EB is a serious player, for sure better than all mentioned before him. Maybe a tad too low on this list? The write-up however was too brief and considering all the other write-ups kind of boring imo.

  • MyKal

    Got ya Hursty. Lay low on the swearing. If only my teachers said it so politely maybe i wouldn’t have had to change four classes and get suspended (twice).

  • Nikos Zisis

    @andrew…:ok
    it will be interesting to see Elton messing up with all those “running around with no clue” track&field athletes (andre,rodney,luis,etc)…but then you propably can escape with anything at the East..

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i got suspended!!!!!!!!!!!!! EB as a player>>EB trickin BDiddy

  • MyKal

    Yay, whatever a Lz – Cphfinest3 is, agreed with me slightly, sort of, more or less on a small most probably useless opinion about a list in which we have little to no direct input on.

  • andrew

    swearing is fine, Mykal, I think he was just referring to the rather indelicate way you dealt with Nikos’ comment. There is rarely a reason to get personal with people’s comments, regardless of what Jukai and Eboy say.

  • Nikos Zisis

    all you need is love ,
    love
    ,love
    ,love is all you need!!!(The Beatles)

  • MyKal

    I feel your pain BET,I feel you. (not in a sick disgusting mind-in-the-gutter kind of way, either)

  • MyKal

    what about “I’m knockin heads off, I’m knockin heads off, motherf(you know) heads off”

  • andrew

    hahaha @ MyKal

  • Todd Spehr

    If Philly gets anything near the Brand that killed PHX in the 2006 WCSF – anything even near it – then they might exceed the enormous expectations

  • MyKal

    Well I’m gon get me some sleep it’s late here in Australia. I hope at some in point this comments section we get back to discussing the list but until we meet again “deal with it you p*ssy” (sorry I just had to)

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    me and 1 of my boys was slapp boxing on the stairs, and i got him in the face and he fell down 1 flite. homeboy is fat too, he looked like a choclate donut. but a teacher seen me and i had ISS yesterday out of school today and ISS on monday.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    This will be my last time checking this. Brand, hahahahahaha, this is a joke!

  • Nikos Zisis

    Andrew Gaze rules !!!! (and so is Aaron Trahair…)

  • Nikos Zisis

    if you think this is a joke,wait until Starbury appears somewhere around no-20..(and i start fearing Calderon and Scola won’t make the list…)

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    ^neither scola or calderon deserve top 20

  • andrew

    Nikos – don’t you dare diss our Drewey. Unless you mean off the basketball court, because the guy’s a d!ck off court. James, that’s great news. I’ll appreciate not reading your boring posts over the next three weeks.

  • Nikos Zisis

    by the way: if Elton is no-27 ,Scola is no-15…go ask the olympic U.S. front-line on the matter.

  • http://its-mitch.blogspot.com/ Paps

    27. Now it’s getting interesting. Brand’s for sure top 30 in this league.

  • andrew

    Nikos – where you from, mate? I appreciate that you have a rather delicate grasp on English, and know who Aaran Trahair and Gaze are, so you’re not American…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    So will you be spending your time here BET? I reckon that this will break 300 if were both on at the same time. EB should be higher imo. 18-23 was my range for him.

  • Nikos Zisis

    I don’t know off-court, i remember him playing in Greece for Apollon Patras and he was G-R-E-A-T !!! A proof that you don’t need to be a high-jumper to be a very good player.

  • andrew

    I can get this up to 300 myself by being a total drunken hyprocrite – calling people out for being nasty whilst simultaneously having a crack at others… Also, it’s lonely here, in the country.

  • http://spaceshipjay/myspace.com Spaceship Jay

    Even he doesn’t stay healthy in real life Pve84, you’ll be seeing lots of him down your throat in NBA 2K9. Lots of him.

  • Nikos Zisis

    i said it again i am from Roumania but consider me greek for the purposes of this site…(i forgot to mention Shane Hill,blond hair playing for Near East,brainy playmaker although he good run,something like Steeve Nash)

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    !

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    hursty i will be here until 12, then i am gonna hop on the bus and buy some lunch

  • andrew

    I remember Don Nelson rated Gaze as having the best unguarded jumpshot in the world at one point. And he was truly sublime to watch in his prime. Bird-esque, for the whole inelegant and unathletic shooter aspect. I didn’t get to see a lot of Jordan as a kid, but I’m glad I saw a lot of Andrew Gaze as I grew up. I used to go to basketball clinics as a kid just to get his autograph. But he’s a d!ck to meet as an adult. And all about the $$ (i have mates that have worked for him… totally money oriented.)

  • Nikos Zisis

    and my grasp of English ain’t that good, as somebody (correctly) mentioned on me ROY adventure (Antonis!!)

  • andrew

    Heal is his name Nikos, and he’s as much a pri(k off court as he has a killer three on court…
    @spaceship jay – word… he went for 83 points against me on my lakers dynasty team on Live 07…

  • Nikos Zisis

    @andrew…:exactly Bird-esque..i am telling you the guy was special.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Just like Brandon Roy, Elton Brand deserves much better comments. Great player who no doubt would be higher if he had been healthy last year. Elton is consistentcy personified.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    mmmm… foood. Brand! Elton is a heaps cool name btw. Look at E. John and, uh other dudes!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    That chocolate donut line was ridiculous, BET!!!!!! I almost choked on my bagel.

  • andrew

    Nikos -your english is fine for this site – some of the native english speakers that post on here should be envious. And I bet nobody else posting speaks greek or rumanian, so your efforts are appreciated from this humble drunk.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And yes, Elton may be a little undervalued at this spot, maybe about 3 or 4 spots too low.

  • andrew

    Hursty – I have a dude who’s a regular customer at my store called Elton. He’s straighter than Elton John, but dumber than most people you will ever meet.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Nikos english>Eboy eating a Bagel

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Flavor Flav’s giant plasitc sunglasses>>>>Elton John’s ‘faboulous’ giant sunglasses

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i feel like a fu(king Mathmetichan!!!!!

  • jay

    For the sake of whatever…EB is gonna take the sixers to the promised land! No really…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    BET’s Chocolate donut friend>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    BET on the regular.

  • Nikos Zisis

    @andrew…:it is sad this off-court things quite often. I remember meeting Iverson at the course of the Olympics in a club in Greece and aproching him to see an idol, and when i saw him coming at me holding a huge cigar and asking for a light like a … i mean it was during the days of the games, no wonder Colangelo was keep mentioning the need for the U.S to repair its image worldwide..

  • Pve84

    @Andrew
    Please don’t respond to Spaceship Jay…he’s trash in all basketball video games and is often on the receiving end of my vicious post-up on actual basketball courts. Yes, he has a reason to be jealous.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i slapped his fat ‘Plies/Fries whats the difference?’ lookin boy a$$ down some stairs. I will come down to florida and slap more people down the stairs if it will help Eboy’s bussiness. From now on i am BETSTAIRSLAPPERCATS

  • Nikos Zisis

    @andrew…:wait till i start posting in Mandarin chinese….

  • andrew

    Pve84 – fair call. Nikos – heroes generally disappoint in real life. Thankfully, most of the ones I still hold dear are dead now, so I never have to worry about wondering if they are nice to autograph hunters. I’m of the increasingly small populace of sports fans that can like a player’s game without focusing on their off-court/field behaviour. I’m pretty certain I’d hate Michael Jordan if I had a few beers with him, but I won’t let that stop me buying his sneakers.

  • andrew

    hahahhahahahaha @ BET

  • Nikos Zisis

    exactly

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Eboy’s a heat fan
    Roles like a soccer mom not a heat fan
    In that red mini-van
    after this he wont exsist no more like WAMU
    I am about to free myself like i am Shamu (or willy)
    But on the real Eboy eats Bagels Eboy eats Bagels Eboy eats Bagels, i dont even need to dis him he eats bagels.

  • Oli

    @Zisis: i just wanted to defend poor “little” elton since it seemed to me that you said he didn’t deserve a spot here just because he’s a 6-8 pf.
    @andrew: thanks for your defense, you should join the nuggets…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    yes, claps all round for BET *applauds gently*.
    Andrew, im not gonna get into it (Elton), but I did have a public bus driver ask me whether every person was supposed to pay $2.20 (or whatever the fee is) to go over the harbour bridge to pay for the fee. I then procedded to get off the bus, needless to say that I did NOT feel comfortable getting on a bus with a guy who has an e-tag 50cm from his face for 8 hours a day, 6 days a week… :)

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    “can i have some TarTar sause on my fishsticks”

  • Nikos Zisis

    and i was sicking for an autograph,i tried to be near him and he came to me…but that’s not the point,propably you are right with MJ(and in general)

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    That was pretty weak, BET. You could have thrown chocolate donut boy in it for the f*ck of it.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    weak? as in dope as hell? or as in so great my White Hot mind couldnt take it?

  • matt the jazz fan

    um back to brand – i wonder whether the argument of being on a bad team shielding brand is allowed to stand. for what it’s worth the best player on a team shouldn’t benefit from it or at least not much. you’re the best player your supposed to make the others better. period.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    The Black Stallion Rides Tonight , will be my new screen name soon as ryne alows me to comment with it

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    he’s a 20-10 guy, solid player…..i think he’d ge higher…

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Matt: No, it doesn’t.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    if the Clippers were successful more than once a decade, then yes, I think Brand would be higher. Winning counts as much as anything according to Ryne’s criteria given out on the Prince article. But its opinion and ability as well.

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    All of the 20-10 guys deserve to be here, atleast not for Zach Boo…

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Matt that is true for point guards/passing players but EB gotta score, not waste time on tasks like ‘making others better’. The man does his job that the team asks him to do and gets his.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Z-Bo averaged 20-10 last year?

  • andrew

    BET – are you as drunk as I am right now? Christ. You’re on fire. Hursty – you only ever needed to say Bus Driver and I’d have understood exactly everything you said without you saying it.

  • http://www.friendster.com/sesa Sesa

    I swear, this list is getting outta hand

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Wins matter TAD, not so much the supporting cast.

  • http://www.myspace.com/2536545 Bryan

    @ BET:17 and 10………….. Elton Brand is the second under rated guy in a row on this list.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Ah well, I spose thats just the way it is though huh? True story though, 2 or 3 other people got off the bus as well (one was a drunk btw, started swearing, giggling etc. We were coming back from the city AWAY from the harbour bridge, which makes it worse).

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Co sign, Shia.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    andrew if by drunk, you mean ‘happy i have a 3 day weekend so i made my drink (hawian punch with red cough syrup and lots of sugar) to celebrate’ then maybe. But if i was drunk off alchol my comments would appear like this “abfhdnmacxc Eboy fealjkcxzv
    artgfaa Flavor Flav jvkcmd uuuuuuuuuuu”

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    he did twice at 03-04 and 06-07…,

  • http://spaceshipjay/myspace.com Spaceship Jay

    Oh really Mr. Pve84?? Remember this day, September 26th. I here by curse you for 10 games (real ones, not video games). For 10 GAMES, the matchup will be Jay-Ped, regardless of who else is on the court. And I will play determined.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Simone if he didnt do it last year he problay should not be on this list. Starbury HAD that nice 20 point 8 assist average and he didnt make the list either.

  • andrew

    BET – I’m going to make me one of those right now. I’m impressing myself with my lack of obscure punk rock references noone else will understand.
    Hursty – if I got off public transport every time I was a little concerned for the IQ of the person driving the vehicle (in Melbourne here, remember we have trams that have no option but to follow the tracks they are on) I’d never get anywhere.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i ride the bus, great people on their. But i do it in America. USA! USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!

  • andrew

    Dagnabbit I’m getting good at off-topic posts these days.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    If we’re looking at previous PF’s on the list, Josh Smith, Sheed and Pau should rank behind Elton, so it’s hard to argue the placement.

  • andrew

    Less punch, more syrup.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Eboy: David West/Antwan Jamison?

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    josh smith is 3…

  • matt the jazz fan

    @BETCATS and TADone – thanks for your responses. Buuuuuut Duncan makes his teammates better, doesn’t he? Not only off the court, by keeping everyone in check, but on the court too by helpside defense and passing out of double teams crisply etc… So considering the athletes that the Clippers have always had, and even occasional shooters (Cat Mobley…) isn’t that partially on EB (while also on the coaches and bad luck with injuries)?

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Mat, Duncan is The Big Distraction. Sure he forces double teams, but once he gets the ball, he is not giving it up unless Pop drew up the play to work that way.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Cat Mobley will never be the same until he reunites with his sister Steve Frances

  • andrew

    @ Matt – EB has never had the calibre of mercenary spot up shooters and perennial support players that TD has had, although your point is well made and duly noted. It’s why TD will be ranked higher than EB though.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Well, to be accurate, Josh and Twan are combo 3/4′s. David West is not better than Elton, he had a really good season and needs to continue that pace to be in EB’s area code.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    those two were great bet. the rockets at the time, not so much.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    BETCATS blog flying solo (DP deserted on me)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  • andrew

    I’m off to sleep off nine beers kids. Play nice. I’ll be up, bright eyed and bushy tailed to make sure all you young ne’er-do-wells haven’t sullied the name of irrational, over-emotive and under-researched web commenting in the morning (just to ensure that no-one takes that the wrong way, I’ve had too much to drink, and wholeheartedly count myself amongst the group. Except for the young part). Goodnight from him.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    you did not drink 9 beers\. Fu(kin liar, you would not be able to type right now. 1 maybe, even that is doubtable

  • B. Long

    Solid spot for him.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Matt: Duncan has Parker and Ginobili and also had David Robinson. Elton has had Quentin Richardson, Darius Miles, Corey Maggette, Cat Mobley, a broken Sam Cassell, Chris Kaman, Ron Artest, Ron Mercer, etc. Pleast stop me when I get to someone who even approaches what Duncan has had….

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    you forgot Olowakandi!!!

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    While not to displace Elton Brand’s spot (I actually thought he should be in the early 20s), shouldn’t the logic be to place him way higher on the list because of his injuries? Wasn’t that why JO was 42?

  • matt the jazz fan

    @andrew: Fair enough. Good night!
    @BETCATS: 3 assists/game.

    It’ll be good to see what happens in Philly because this won’t be the case of a top banana becoing a second banana – no EB is gonna be the best player on a supposedly better team (or at least in a somewhat weaker conference, less so than previously but still). So that’ll tell us whether it was EB or the Clips. Assuming he’s really healthy, and I hope he is.

  • andrew

    Just so you know, BET, we Australians drink as if it’s a national sport. More beer per capita than any nation on earth… Nine beers and typing is nothing, but I won’t hesitate to say that my handwriting would be awful right now. P.S. i’m drinking proper beer too, not that awful swill you Americans call beer.

  • andrew

    just so you know, I’m really tuff too.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    wrong, Austria, Hungry, and Germany all booze more we learned about that in Civics and Economics.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    o andrew is a ‘tuff’ guy who drinks ’9′ beers. B.A. indeed. But its all love (in a non-Teddy the Bear type of way)

  • andrew

    Yeah, but there beer is Pure. Ours is full of chemicals, hence, we are tuffer.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Yeh Andrew is a bogan footy player. Dont mess with him. But hes right about alchohol. All true.

  • andrew

    BET -so tuff.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    America the country>>>>>>>>>>>>>America the government

  • andrew

    Hursty – i actually plan on playing footy next year for one of the worst country footy teams in country Victoria. first time since I was 15, should be a great laugh.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    oh yeah, i made Sarah Palin scream Obama

  • andrew

    America the band >>>>>>>>>>>>>> America the government.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    footy?

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    America>>>Australia

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    que team america….

  • andrew

    Word. Footy. I’m going to bed. For real. Grand Final tomorrow. Yay for footy.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    AFL Betcats. Afl is Victoria is basketball in Indiana or Kentucky University as a whole state. Crazy down there.

  • matt the jazz fan

    @TADOne – I guess the point I’m making is that QRich or Maggette could have been held in the same reverence as Ginóbili if Brand made players (similarly gifted ones, in their case) around him as good as Duncan did.

    Which as I reread it is maybe overstating my point…

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    cool.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Yeh im out too, sort of anyways, i’ll be round, just not commenting.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Matt, stop it. QRich only was good when he was in Phoneix, and Maggette hated Mike Dunelvey so neither could have been Ginobili like

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    Obama’s ROCK…

  • Jaylen Rose

    if nikos zisis is australian like i (judged from the gaze and trahair comment) i am ashamed to be australian. don’t judge us, nikos is just a dick

  • jdn41

    i think im going to love bosh’s ranking on this list :D

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    this went from 0 to 60 back to 0 in like a minute

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Told you thats what happens when the Aussies leave BET.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    well i need to go make some food for breakfest. I might return, but i doubt it.

  • matt the jazz fan

    *stopping* have a nice w-e everyone

  • Michael

    brand is better than bosh, brand is way better than jamison, hence his position on this list is completely fu(ked. He is legit 15 – 20

  • Nikos Zisis

    kids should try harder if they want me to make them famous….by responding to them that is…!!!
    (just kidding Mr Jaylen, i have already mentioned that i am retarted…)

  • Nikos Zisis

    and i am not Australian ,just happened to enjoy the game of Gaze and Heal and Trahair while i was in Greece….

  • Undrafted

    You got Pau and Brand mixed up…

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Moose in da house . . .

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    ACtually, Q Rich put up better numbers before he went to Phoenix. However, he wasn’t playing for the Clippers when they faced the Suns in the playoffs. He had been shipped to hell by then…..And I didn’t realize BETCATS was in high school.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Allenp, did you think he was older or younger?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    The spruce Moose. Hursty subbing out for Moose.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    subbing out for me? what does that mean, hurst? sorry that i am clueless about almost everything you say to me, but i know what spruce means this time . . . remember, i’m young :)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Subsitution dude. Like going out of the game and bringing in a player to replace you. Haven’t you ever seen dodgeball? What do they call subs in the USA? Interchange? Out.

  • http://www.myspace.com/2536545 Bryan

    Wow australians are over running this joint.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    PS dodgeball was a great movie.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    ohhhhh . . . wait, why didn’t i understand that? i didn’t think about you leaving, hursty . . .

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Its 1am Bryan. We’re leaving. Most of the guys came out of the woodwork after the Olympics me thinks. And Patty Mills.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Bryan, it’s because of time zones and stuff. Most all of us Americans are in school and stuff right now.

  • http://www.heavyasheaven.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    BET, I always got yo back homes…just been struggling to post stuff so far on your blog. I’ll be back at 100 pretty soon so don’t worry I didn’t desert you. and on this pick…Brand did not play but like ten games last year therefore he should not be included in this list. that’s all I got. off to ceramics to make a fly ass pot. play wit it.

  • http://www.heavyasheaven.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    Anyone believe Brand will be a 20 and 20 force once again? I myself believe he is going to flourish with Iggy taking the pressure off of him he never had in LA. Sam Cassel was aite but Iggy is a star.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    hey 9th wonder, you’re DP?

  • http://www.heavyasheaven.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    all the good stuff happens when a dude is in adv world geography. wtf.

  • http://www.heavyasheaven.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    DP on steriods, moose. beast mode DP.

  • http://www.heavyasheaven.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    damn I’m late! Got to go, the principal is calling my name…

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    aight. cool. Moose is always in beast mode.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    I’ll be in and out on slam today . . .

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    I’ll be in and out on slam today . . .

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    evening ladies

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Based on the frequency of his posts I assumed he was older, Moose. When I was in high school we didn’t have the time or means to hang out on websites during the school day.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    And how old do you think I am, Allenp?

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    I’m guessing somewhere around 12-15 Moose.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    Money, I need to have a word with you my dude.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    @ Lz – Cphfinest3: Right on. I’m 13. Why did you think that?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Don’t underestimate my hoop knowledge because of my age, though.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Why are you young people not in class?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    I’m at home sick, Allenp.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    Allenp, we probably all have computer class. I know I’m in desktop publishing right now and I try to skip the easy classes sometimes throughout the week to get on here.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    Anyone know how much nba league pass cost? A brother is getting tired of watching games on espn and tnt with the same tired ass teams and no new young blood teams on the block.

  • big nigga

    elton brand is a underrated pf
    he gives u at least 20 and 10 every night
    his defense is decent, also
    many forget that just 3 seasons ago, he was an MVP candidate and his team had a better record than the lakers
    hopefully, he will bonce back from injury and help philly become a force in the eastern conference

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats The Black Stallion Rides Tonight

    computer class!! I got one!

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    ^@ above^ : He’s given 20/10 for 4 out of his 9 seasons. After the injury, it will be very unpredictable.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com 9th wonder

    they let you have that name? no censors on slam anymore?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    yeh, i was wondering that. And you let YOURSELF have that name? Without knowing that it might offend people?

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    dumb people @ the 1:27 guy

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    whats good kidz!!! I just got myself some food from that King of Burgers, Burger King!!!! I am baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack and suspended as ever!! Im chillin so hard that i am typing this from a ice bath.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobies (maybe now the conversationess will start)

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    ok this place is -D-E-A-D-

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    Moose in da house!

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    BETCATS still there?

  • http://yuthotmail.com unemployed

    very hard to believe eb42 at 27. i’d put him around 19-20

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    Catastrophic injury or not, this actually seems kinda low for him

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    @ what: what?

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    BETCATS is always here, besides the time when he is mysterouisly abcent

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    that makes sense, BET.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    nice page on the site BET.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    thank you. The site is nice, nice is the site.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    yeh. cool.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    perkisabeast.com

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose
  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    boom boom bang

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Moose, you from perkisabeast?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    nah, just like the site. cause i think that perk is a beast.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    i don’t have a website. just a huge celtics fan.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    make one
    just go to freewebs and it takes a little while, but you will be happy

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    nah, i dont think so . . . not feelin it.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    moose? where you at boy?

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    why man? it is a whole nother level. you can write whatever, whenever, however, you want

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    yeh. i know. don’t think i got the time or nuthin.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    not feelin like doing it rite now. maybe later . . .

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    one day.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    sure. one day. and i’ll make sure you know about it.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    soooo BET you’re 16 now, right? how long are you planning to be a regular commenter on slamonline?

  • the truth 34

    .

  • the truth 34

    I AM THE BIGGEST CELTICS FAN ON THIS SITE

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i am not 16 til october 26, but i forgive you. I plan being here til they close the site down, and that wont happen, so i will never leave

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    the truth, welcome. Celtics

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    i’m with you on that one. i’m here to stay as well, whether the haters like it or not.

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    BET, that was me. Just felt like havin a little fun . . . but i, moose, have to say that I am the biggest celtics fan on this site.

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    . . . and you’re the biggest bobcats fan.

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    but that ain’t sayin much cause there are only like five of you guys.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    their are 4 others?

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    i was sayin that there are like five bobcats fans in the world . . . joking around.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    oh, well that is true. 3 years ago their were only 4 celtics fans though.

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    and i was one of them . . . one who was too young to know much bout the nba, though.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    the Antonie Walker/Paul Pierce days>>>Paul Pierce/Ray Allen

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    BET, if you add in KG the right side wins, though . . .

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    That’s why the Celts won the finals this year.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    true, but 0 shimmys?

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    whahuh?

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    wawaweiaaw

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    ?

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    BETCATS: “If you have nothing good to say, don’t say it.” — my kindergarten teacher.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    your kindergarten teacher

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    yeh

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    everything i need to know i learned in kindergarten, BET.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    your kindergarten teacher is a kind soul with bad intenitons. Death to the machine, you wont silence me.

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    a kind soul with bad intentions? dude, that doesn’t make sense. and you know i’m just givin you a hard time, you’re still my dogg.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    it does make sence. you live life by a book, i just live life

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    what book am i livin my life by???

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    one i wrote and slipped on your bookshelf

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    whatever, do what you want BET. just don’t get arrested and thrown in jail. we want you on slam. i’m worried bout you, my man.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i am the boogieman of literature. the bookieman (in a non gamebling way)

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    meaning real writers live in fear of you taking over their websites with your random sentences?

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    you worry about me? dude we not even friends, we eHomies

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    i was playin when i said i was worried bout you.

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    that whole comment was basically a joke.

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    should i mark my sarcasm when i’m being sarcastic? (that was sarcastic)

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    im out

  • http://nba.com/celtics Moose

    with that, i am too. goodbye . . .

  • KA

    having brand is gonna make phillys c, Jamaican dude, I forget his name, look like a stud by having him clean up after all the attention brand gets. that said, I actually think brands a poor passer out of the post.

  • MyKal

    KA I believe your referring to Samuel Dalembert. Just as a side note He’s Haitian but plays/played for the Canadian national team. (If I’m not mistaken they were uncertain if they wanted him back for their Olympic qualifiers, wouldn’t have made much of a difference anyway)

  • j-smoov 5

    good placement and good article. @ the EB haters: Dude’s good.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Uhhh, I’m not exactly sure what to say. His potential is much higher than this, while his injury-prone nature make him much lower than this. Let’s put it this way: If Elton Brand stays healthy, he’s a top 20 player. It Elton Brand gets injured again, he’s nowhere near where he is on this list.

  • andrew

    Gosh. I can’t believe that everyone on here is in high school. How come high-schoolers know more about basketball than me? I’m going to have a word with the educational systems of our fair countries to see why I couldn’t read slamonline when I was in school. Oh, wait, the internet wasn’t invented then. Neither was Slam. Bugger.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Andrew- your old dude. Go Hawks, only because Franklin wears 23.

  • scott

    Okay I got it figured out the rest of the players on this list and if it isn’t these guys then…we’ll it should be. No order.
    1. Carlos Boozer
    2. Chris Bosh
    3. Kobe Bryant
    4. Carmelo Anthony
    5. Caron Butler
    6. Baron Davis
    7. Tim Duncan
    8. Kevin Garnett
    9. Rudy Gay
    10. Danny Granger
    11. Dwight Howard
    12, Allen Iverson
    13. LeBron James
    14. Joe Johnson
    15. Shawn Marion
    16. Tracy McGrady
    17. Steve Nash
    18. Dirk Nowitzki
    19. Chris Paul
    20. Paul Pierce
    21. Jason Richardson
    22. Amare Stoudemire
    23. Dwyane Wade
    24. Deron Williams
    25. Yao Ming
    26. Jose Calderon

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    andrew, im at wollongong uni!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Im beginning to doubt that Calderon, Richardson or Gay wil be on the list scott.

  • andrej

    there way beetter players ranked after him

  • http://slamonline.com Simone S.Y Lawy

    Agree for what Hursty has said…calderon, ric, gay, gordon, … ain’t make the list.

  • http://moneybills2cents.blogspot.com/ Money Bill Williams

    me too!

  • Jeter

    Definitely in the Top 15. So far, this has been the most questionable ranking.

  • O.k

    All i want to say is that everyone thinks phillys better that the raptors but who’s better chris bosh and jermaine o’neal or andre igoudala and elton brand, besides jermaine is a 6x all star and bosh is a 3x while elton is a 2x and andre is even one besides elton missed like the whole season jermaine missed 40 some games

  • tommyizkool

    yo i never thought of it like that probably right, but thecs gonnado it again Deron williams 08 09 mvp

  • lalaa

    yo o.ks right the raptors are better then Philly

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