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Monday, September 8th, 2008 at 8:00 am  |  158 responses

SLAMonline Top 50: Michael Redd, no. 43

The definitive ranking of the best players in the NBA today…

by Khalid Salaam

He’s won an Olympic Gold Medal now, which is akin to winning an Emmy. I’ll finish this analogy by saying winning an NBA Championship is like winning an Oscar (you got that, right?).

The point I’m making is Michael Redd is a good player and at times a great scorer, but may have been somewhat overrated in the last few years. He shouldn’t have been considered a top-tier guy to begin with, but I can see how the mistake created itself.

Redd was caught in the same no man’s land that a segment of the NBA always gets caught in. He’s too talented to be a rotation guy but not quite dominant or consistent enough to be a star. Yet these sorts of players always ask and expect to be paid like stars. They also tend to – by the very nature of the League and its financial conditions – drive fans nutty (I make no blanket judgments on a player’s market value. I’m just making an observation).

Players like Redd are better suited as being the man next to the man, but if your team is bereft of talent, then it often gets trapped in the middle. If you follow the planetary sciences, you know planets revolve around stars (Earth revolves around the star known as Sol. Think of the name we call it, the Sun, as something like a nickname) and under them are dwarf stars – great in size and power but nothing compared to their superior counterpart. In NBA terms, Redd is a dwarf star (as are all of the names you’ll find at this point in the Top 50).

If you don’t pay these secondary stars big money, they may leave or sulk. You need them to play – and play happy – so your real stars can function at their top ability. Of course, it’s hard to come to a common ground about what to pay these kinds of players since paying them too much may alienate your real stars and/or leave you with too little money to sign rotation players.

This is Michael Redd in a nutshell.

During the early years, he was considered a find – an up-and-coming guy with a sweet outside stroke who could potentially be a key component of a contending team. But once he signed a $90 million deal back in ’05, people expected him to be great – to be a franchise player – and not just part of the puzzle. Andrew Bogut and the since-departed Mo Williams were thought to be pieces to build around Redd, but things never coalesced in Milwaukee.

Redd put-up the following numbers last season:

Finished eighth overall in points per game (22.7 per), started 71 games, 4.3 rebounds, 3.4 assists, shot 44 percent from the filed, 36 percent from 3-point territory and 82 percent from the foul line. (He’s been solid his entire career, once dropping 57-points in a game against the Jazz in ’06 and making the 2004 All-Star Game).

That resulted in 26 wins, however. An assortment of problems explains the Bucks’ mediocre record, but Redd’s name was firmly in trade talks up until the Bucks brought-in former Nets star Richard Jefferson, a player also in that dwarf/lesser star category. So now what?

I mentioned that he scores well, but here’s what he’s not so great at. He’s an average defender and can regularly be contained by second-tier defensive talents. He’s also not much of a motivating force – he watched the Bucks settle for being regular last year. The upside is he’s in his prime (his age of 29 is hidden by a rapid ascension into baldness. I’m not clowning him by the way, just saying…), and a summer spent surrounded by the competitive types such as LeBron, Chris Paul and Kobe should push anybody to the next level mentally…in theory.

New Bucks coach Scott Skiles is known to push guys, and the team seems like it’s more prepared to compete than last season. His ability to stretch the floor with his outside shooting and overall scoring ability should put the team in playoff contention. Whether or not the Bucks qualify for the postseason will disprove or confirm his placement on our list. We’ll soon find out.

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  • underdog

    43rd

  • Niio

    Man.. this is one negative Top 50 post it almost makes me wonder why he’s ranked in the top 50 lol

  • scott

    Perhaps Khalid believes some others on this list should be ahead of Redd. I don’t know maybe Durant, Martin, Camby, Smith, Ellis, and West.

  • scott

    @ Khalid…I thought the write up was dead on. Jermaine O’Neal wants to be the man and don’t get me wrong he was once a top twenty player but with the rash of injuries he just never was “the man”. However, O’Neal is paid to be the franchise player and to carry the team he just doesn’t have it in him. Perhaps, playing w/Bosh and Calderon will be a better fit for him. Bosh can be the man in Toronto and O’Neal can concentrate on rebounding and defense.

  • scott

    Michael Redd is not the man.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    I guess…he’s at least he’s a top five shooter.

  • Michael

    thats the thing, there are 30 teams, and certainly not 30 players out there worth the max, redd would be a great 3rd option on an elite team but he is not a great player. I think he lucked out that the bucks had to pay somebody and no one else was around. This ranking is probably a bit high, i half expected to see redd 50th

  • http://www.nrl.com.au Money Bill Williams

    I got angry when i saw this pick. I thought to myself “how can they let him go so low?” But reavaluating i think that this is an ok pick. i agree with Niio though this is a negative post Khalid. No love for the preacher?

  • matt the jazz fan

    @scott – good point, worng player.
    does this mean you know who tomorrow’s player (j. o’neal) is?
    and if so are you privy to the entire list?

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    You really should look up the definition of a dwarf star… also, Gregg Popovich wasn’t invovled in this summers olympics so I’m not sure how much interaction Redd had with him.

  • Niio

    Low blow with the early onset of baldness too

  • MSkittle

    Wow, whats up with the negativity?

  • Bruno

    i completely agree with the post here…
    but i have him at #37. as david west #39.
    i’ll credit that on the rookies, that you guys might include and i don’t even have Oden on my list.
    = Minimum of 10 games for an NBA team =
    ;)

  • Bruno

    1 thing mmade me think… Iguodala is, i think, a sure shot for your list… and you rank him before Michael Redd?
    i don’t think i agree on that… anyway…

  • starbury&stevey

    stephon marbury !!!where is starbury??? …oh…he must be in the top10…

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    Damn Khalid, were you making a case for or against him being on the list at all?

  • ciolkstar

    Im not a Michael Redd fan at all. His shot just looks weird and I still feel like he wasnt a good fit for the USA team at all. The guy can play, but he’s so outrageously overpaid that he does more to handcuff a franchise than set up for longterm success. OK so he can shoot, now what?… I might actually take everyone else on the list ahead of him. But thats just me.

  • stillatin

    church!

  • Fresh

    Redd is a deadly scorer and score in bunches but that might be the problem with his game. Not a very consistent player but well deserving of a top 50 but it is just on what night to give him his ranking. The Night where he goes for his 3 50 point game in a week or the night that he goes 1/10 from the 3 and 3/15 from the field. But still shows the glimpses of beginning a premier player, by getting to the basket and drawing but not doing much to more effective than a Mo Williams. But that doesnt take away from the fact the Michael Redd is still a top 50 player.

  • Fresh

    This article makes alot of sense. Redd is sort of and in between player as a superstar role player is concerned. But he can still do alot for a team. Might be slightly overpaid but fills a need. Like on the Olympic team where he filled a need as a pure shooter. The Olympic team needed that after the strecthes in their last international events where the only person scoring was Carmelo Anthony. He was not to be used much but in those stretches where they might have gone cold, he would be the perfect player to put in the game. Also his attitude help, the US national team was looking for good quality players to build a reputation.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    I hope i dont see Finley or a few more players ahead of him!!!!!!

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    he is way better than 43! This is an outrage

  • http://www.slamonline.com Khalid Salaam

    jukai thanks, i was thinking of nate mcmillan not pop. In the future its best that i don’t write stories while watching NFL football. Still i think you get my poin. Although the comment about dwarf stars you made confuses me.. In its basic form the analogy is correct. If you have something to add, please do

  • http://www.slamonline.com Khalid Salaam

    I disagree, this is not a negative post. If you guys want me to slob every player i write about, like i’m some kind of fan-boy..well lets just say i’m the wrong writer. i think its fair. Redd is a good player, i take nothing away from him on that matter.

  • ab_40

    Michael redd should have signed with cleveland for a little less then this contract when he had the chance now he’s playing with a bad team in a notsomuchfun city… just ask richard jefferson

  • Keith

    Redd is an excellent shooter, a second tier player and a weak defender. The article is spot on for him. However, if Bogut ranks higher than Redd, I will lose all respect for Khalid.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    He should have signed with the Cavs for $20 million less. Less money, but he’d probably have more hair.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    And Khalid, it should be rapid descent into baldness, not ascension. After all, baldness is not something any of us are shooting for.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    My apologies Khalid, I was thinking of white dwarfs, which is the dead core of a star. Apparently Red Dwarfs are smaller stars which fit your comparison. I also understand where everyone is coming from: while you are not incorrect on your piece on Michael Redd, why did he get a bit of a scathing summary while Monta Ellis, who was 4 spots behind, pretty much got his butt kissed throughout the entire article?

  • d-rob

    Does that mean all the players from the Celtics should be in the Top 50 because it’s better than winning the Gold? The analogy is a little bit shaky.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Jukai: Different writer maybe?

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    Fair and Balanced, Khalid is like the fox news of Slam writers.

  • http://slamonline.com Khalid Salaam

    no Co Co, i’m like the Godzilla of Slam writers.

  • a_whiteman

    michael redd is NOT better then any of the players you have behind him IMO, but hey its your list. The man is a top 5 shooter in the league granted but so is jason kapono and he will be nowhere near this list, and what else exactly does redd bring to a team???

  • Keith

    Sheer scoring volume is enough to be ahead of Jason Kapono. I can’t even believe you would say something like that a_whiteman. You are comical.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Them’s fighting words Co Co.

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    Let’s all quit pretending like we’ve seen Michael Redd play enough to know whether or not he should be higher or lower on this list. Seriously, if you don’t live in Milwaukee you probably only watch the Bucks play when they’re playing your favorite team.

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    Which is no more than 4 times per year for any of us. :)

  • http://www.sprint.com/sero Dma

    unfortunately, michael redd is playing in milwaukie, where decent players become tagged franchise and then just ride off into obscurity like glenn robinson.

  • http://nba.com GermanMavsFan

    Dirk shoots better than him and he aint even a guard , Redd is way overrated

  • http://SLAMONLINE.com Primus

    fox news Co co?! thats just wrong!

  • http://www.lkz.ch/basket Darksaber

    Khalid FAIR and BALANCED? *snort*!

  • http://www.lkz.ch/basket Darksaber

    Redd looked gimpy in Beijing (but hey, so did Nique most of his career, incredible cross feet) and even though he was the designated “zone buster”, couldn’t reall make it rain in his limited minutes. That being said, olympics were an anomaly for most of team USA, i always enjoyed Redd’s quick release and his knack for scoring. Isn’t better than D-West though.

  • Biz

    lol at co co…i agree with the article but damn is 43 is still too low…but as long u don’t put crappies players before him we’re good

  • http://www.lifehoopsthoughts.blogspot.com the baconator

    Huh… I expected Redd to be much higher, like say in the 30s, possibly high 20s. Michael Redd is a poor man’s version of Ray Allen. He’s a great shooter, clutch as hell, and really isn’t known for his defense. I’m assuming Allen’s gonna be top-10, but if he was still with the Sonics/Thunder, would he be that high? All I’m saying is Redd deserves to be higher; you can’t put that much stock into team record cuz we’re talking best PLAYERS

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Baconator, besides shooting, what can Michael Redd do…?

  • scott

    @baconator…Ray Allen won’t stiff the top 50 (unless it is 1998). Redd deserves to be on the list but not ahead of some these players already appearing.

  • Keith

    I gotta hold my hand up and say I’m a Bucks fan. Redd should only be this high. I’m just happy he made the list at all.

  • Bruno

    Allen top10?!?!?!?!
    don’t get me wrong, i love the guy since the bucks (!!!) but if you can’t find 10 guys better than Ray-Ray… well, that means you only watch 4 or 5 teams during the season.
    i have Redd#35 and Allen#24.

  • Keith

    I thought in the spirit of sport – where everyone is a winner – I’d put everyone as number 1 on my list.

  • luqman

    I think that Redd should be wayyy higher on the list cause he can do almost everyting

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i just dont see 42 dudes better than Micheal Redd.

  • Keith

    So you think he is fairly placed then BETS?

  • scott

    @betcats.. there are 42 dudes better then Redd and Gerald Wallace and Jason Richardson are two!!

  • overtime

    Seems that he’s hit his ceiling, he could prob be great with another great guy near him, in the same way that Antawn Jamison is for Washington, but he won’t carry a franchise alone, you should switch him and David West

  • Keith

    Can West carry a franchise without CP3?

  • Fresh

    Michael Redd is not suppose 2 be higher than Monta Ellis it was just that injury that dropped his rankings. Ray Allen may be more talent than micheal Redd but Redd is more aggresive. Ray Allens talent should have him as a top 10-15 player in the league but it seems like he doesnt want to be.b Ray allen is not soft but I feel he can do alot more on the court

  • scott

    Can Michael Redd get the Bucks even to the playoffs?

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Scott: he can dumb@ss, he already has.

  • scott

    At this stage of his career Ray Allen is no longer an All-Star. However, he is great to have as your third option on offense.

  • scott

    Milwaukee isn’t making the playoffs this year.

  • Keith

    Redd has contributed to the Bucks getting to the Playoffs. I think we’ve already seen that (albeit it a brief appearance).

  • a_whiteman

    @fresh…you clearly havent seen anything ray allen has done in his career, michael redd cant even hold ray allens jockstrap

  • scott

    @betcats…yeah I forgot the Detroit series. Did the Bucks get swept or was Detroit bored and Milwaukee got one game?

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    I gotta develop my own list of top 50…

  • Keith

    What makes you say that Scott? They have a balanced team for the first time in about 7 years, they’ve got a GM not afraid to make changes and hurt feelings and they’ve got a coach who will drill them into the gorund to make sure their defence is solid. Add to that, the fact that this is the LEast and I reckon they’ve got a better shot than the Bulls and Miami.

  • a_whiteman

    i wasnt saying kapono is better then redd cuz hes not, but someone made the point he is a top 5 shooter and i was showing that just because your a top 5 shooter doesnt mean your a top 50 player

  • Keith

    Kapono is solid in 3 point contests, good point. You win.

  • scott

    I don’t like Luke Ridnour replacing Mo Williams. They bring in Skiles to improve the D and Ridnour is a HORRIBLE defender.

  • scott

    Miami stays healthy they will make the playoffs. Much more talent on that team then Milwaukee.

  • Keith

    Mo Williams was to clear cap space, no doubt about it. With the combined contracts of Simmons, Mason and Williams, the Bucks had as much money as a coke addict.
    They didn’t have nearly as much fun though I suspect.

  • Keith

    ‘If’ they stay healthy. I will wager you 17 shillings that Milwaukee gets more wins this year than Miami.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    “scott says:
    @betcats…yeah I forgot the Detroit series. Did the Bucks get swept or was Detroit bored and Milwaukee got one game? ”
    1 man cant beat 5 Scott. Not even Kobe could get out of the first round in the pre-Gasol post-Shaq days, and thats if he made them

  • scott

    @Keith…it is on Miami will get more W’s then Milwaukee.

  • http://www.lifehoopsthoughts.blogspot.com the baconator

    Then let me ask you, Scott and Bruno: Who would you put in the top 10? Now that I think about it, I’d prolly agree with Fresh and put Ray-Ray in 10-15 range, but he’s still one of the better players in the league

  • Keith

    Deal.

  • scott

    @baconator… Oh I don’t know maybe LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Garnett, Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Dwight Howard, Deron Williams, Paul Pierce. This list could get real long.

  • Keith

    Bron
    Kobe
    Nash
    Duncan
    CP3
    Howard
    Melo
    Iverson
    Garnett
    Pierce
    Baron
    Brand
    Gil
    Shawn Bradley
    D-Wade
    Really Baconator? He gets top 15? Interesting…

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Ray Allen doesn’t hit my list till 25

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    I know everyone will be ticked with my placement of Dirk and Rasheed Wallace

  • Keith

    You have Dirk at 381 and ‘Sheed at 17?

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Not quite

  • scott

    @Jukai…Ray Allen in the top 25 this late in his career? Please explain cause I don’t have him in my top 50.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Scott: Simple explanation. You’re an idiot.

  • Bruno

    sorry man, ray-ray is not top10-15 anymore… on my list he was #24, but i have to say that between 10 and 25 its really tough to judge…
    example: i like ray-ray way better, but i gave Melo a higher rank and billups was always on eof my favourites, but i gave him #25 for all the disappointment in the playoffs
    how can Mr Big Shots let detroit make such a run in the regular seasn and than play like that in the postseason???
    anyway, my top10 is the same as scott, except that its not in this order and i take away Nash (#12), Dwight(#14) and deron(#15) to put Tim Duncan (scott probably forgot), AI#3 and TMAC.

  • scott

    That was harsh.

  • scott

    I appreciate the justification of Ray Allen’s status as a top 25 player.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Sorry Scott, but a guy that hits 17/3/3 being the third option in 35 minutes a game while not handling the ball at all. Then when Garnett disappears, dude goes 20.3/5/3 on 50% shooting (both FG and 3P) in the NBA finals, biggest stage in the world. He’s a good defender, a sick shooter, a stalwart clutch guy who is a decent passer and rebounder. Problem is, you don’t notice these things cause he is the third man. But he’s deffinitely up there.

  • Keith

    Co-sign Jukai.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Bruno: where do you have Dirk? Why do you have AI so high?

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Also, sad fact: I could not fit any Bulls or Knicks on this list.

  • scott

    There shouldn’t be any Bulls or Knicks on the list.

  • scott

    @Jukai…I’m not trying to disrespect Allen but he all but disappeared for the first two plus rounds of the playoffs. However, Allen did play great in the NBA Finals. Garnett had a fantastic game seven. Also, Allen is not a very good defender anymore.

  • http://www.lifehoopsthoughts.blogspot.com the baconator

    @Jukai and Scott: Jamal Crawford. You can’t argue that dude isn’t good enough for the list. Def low 40s, high 30s tops, but he’s gotta make it. As for the Bulls, you’re right about that one

  • scott

    Jamal Crawford no.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Scott: Allen went through a shooting slump. It happens. You seem to be judging him by his performance in these two series. I remember Pierce also playing near non-existant for the Atlanta and Cleveland game (he had a great game 7 in Cleveland but was worse than Allen for most of the games) and Garnett was practically invisible against the Lakers. You really need to make your assumptions by watching the entire season. However, just by talking about the playoffs, Ray Allen stepped up when he had to. Garnett was struggling to score so Ray Allen found his shooting touch. That gets him a 25 spot.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    Baconator: Jamal Crawford wont make any of my lists unless I’m talking about stat padding failures.

  • Bruno

    Co-sign Jukai on Allen.
    There ARE NO knicks or Bulls as a top-50, even though i was expecting someone would try to fit Luol Deng in there
    :S
    anyway, Jukai, i hate Dirk man, he is a top10 most hated in the league for me, but, i have to admit that he has his values and i gave him #17.
    i would put him as #20high, but its tough to rank the players you hate, cause i usually take the hate to amazing levels (remember olympics-lebron?)
    anyway, i have AI high cause he was always the man and i think he desearves a very good spot. he was always a top5 on my passion-players… i droped him to 8th, cause i know, he is getting old, but 8th is the worst i can give to this guy.
    he is definitly a true player.

  • Bruno

    Jamal Crawford could make the list…
    COULD, but he would probably need another brain up there and i don’t think he got one this off-season…

  • http://www.nrl.com.au Money Bill Williams

    Co Co says:
    Let’s all quit pretending like we’ve seen Michael Redd play enough to know whether or not he should be higher or lower on this list. Seriously, if you don’t live in Milwaukee you probably only watch the Bucks play when they’re playing your favorite team.

    due to bogut hyped up in aus, the majority of games shown (which isnt many) are mostly bucks games. So i can talk bout his game as i see it sort of regularly

  • Keith

    And I’m a Bucks fan, so yep, I get to comment. I think I may be the only overseas Bucks fan. What do I win for that?

  • http://www.nrl.com.au Money Bill Williams

    Keith, did you just read my comment at all?

  • Keith

    Yes Bill, I did. At no point do you say you’re a Bucks fan. Just a Bogut fan..which doesn’t really count.

  • http://fjsdklf.com Jukai

    Burno: I have AI at eight too. Old, but still better than 99% of the league. I obviously have Dirk wayyyyyyyy lower than you do (lower being lower numbers).

  • John D

    Scott: I watched Ray play 82 games plus the playoffs last year, and trust me, he’s a pretty good defender. Not great, but he busted his ass all year on the defensive end.

  • NBK

    Michael Redd is about the 300th best defensive player in the League and maybe top 20 on the offensive end. So he is in about the right place although I think Tayshun Prince and David West are better all around players

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    NBK, get your joker a$$ out of here. Mike Redd should have been 40th at the least and 30th at the most.

  • scott

    At least Andrew Bogut and Richard Jefferson won’t make the top 50.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    you say that now scott…

  • overtime

    @keith, can Redd carry a franchise without help? no

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    but if they put Redd at 43, i wouldnt put anything past these jokers (much love to the slam staff)

  • Keith

    Ha! Absolutely not overtime. No chance. But then, that’s been established that he’s not a franchise player. But my point is that Redd shouldn’t be switched with West on this basis alone because West can’t carry his team either. No CP3- No New Orleans success. Simple.

  • overtime

    i agree, but the fact is that West does have CP3, if he didn’t your right because he wouldn’t be anywhere near as effective. But Shaq wouldn’t have been as great without Penny, Kobe or Wade; or MJ without Pippen, does that make them worse?

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics/ Moose

    I thought that West was better than Redd, or at least he will be.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I would take David West over Michael Redd. Michael Redd plays almost zero defense. And while he is a good scorer, David
    West averaged about 2 points less, while almost doubling his rebounding. Not to mention The Hornets are going to be a powerhouse (yes, that is mostly because of Chris Paul, but the Hornets would definitely NOT be as good without West either). A lot of players have been underrated so far, especially from the Pistons starting line-up.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I would put Jamal Crawford at least top 50. He’s the Knicks best player. I thought value to team counted?

  • NBK

    If you read Truehoop they did a stat a few months ago that proved michael redd is the worst defensive player in the league that plays more than 20 minutes a game. I think a guy who gives up more points then he scores should not be so celebrated as “productive”

  • overtime

    You read Truehoop?i can’t stand the number geeks

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i 2nd what overtime said

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Great shooter (even if his %’s aren’t that impressive – seriously only 36% on 3′s), but average or below average in everything else. He wouldn’t crack my top 50 that’s for sure. All in all very overrated imo. Only reason he scores so much, is that the Bucks have no one other to put points on the board.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Ramon Sessions?!.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    and that hairless pf are their best options, think about it Yi’s depature actually made their O worse .. just show to what incredible level they stink ..

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    well C-Bogut Pf- Charlie V SF- RJ SG- Mike Redd PG- Ramon Sessions = 49.567812222% chance of making the playoffs.

  • overtime

    Charlie V has turned into a bust, memba wen he droppped 50? Bogut was brilliant 4 australia in the olympics, just doesn’t translate into NBA

  • http://fjsdklf.com Jukai

    Tayshun Prince didn’t make my list. A guy who can’t score outside of the paint or create for others does not make my list.

  • http://fjsdklf.com Jukai

    I believe I put Michael Redd at 41 or something to that effect. The dude has dropped 50 points like what, three, four times… you guys keep talking about him not being able to carry a franchise, but I turn that around back at you: Michael Redd suffers BECAUSE he has no one on his team. You think if you put David West on Milwakee instead of Redd, he’d do even half as good? Don’t think so.

  • Bruno

    tomorrow, the very next one after Redd will be interesting
    i hope Khalid keeps writing cause it has been awesome

  • Bruno

    hey jukai… prince made my list, but anyway, i need an idea for a #49. who is yours?
    i think i’m going with calderon there, but i don’t know, i still don’t trust him, even after last season…

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Bruno, it will be more than interesting at No. 42. Just wait… :-)

  • scott

    Bruno…#49 Michael Redd

  • Bruno

    oh ow…
    here comes a big one. or a complete BUST!
    hahahahah

  • Bruno

    its not my list, but i’m projecting Slam’s list #42 as being someone in the range or Pau or Joe Johnson, maybe Sheed…
    or, the 1st rookie.

  • tealish

    Jukai: I agree with your points about the relative positions of Ray, AI, Redd. But…
    Jukai says:
    Tayshun Prince didn’t make my list. A guy who can’t score outside of the paint or create for others does not make my list.
    First, he can. Second, is Dwight Howard then not in your 50? (By the way, I really hope SLAM doesn’t overrate him. Does not belong in the top 10. Please don’t make that mistake)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=627550406 KA

    always thought of him as a lesser ray allen, which is really saying something, considering i see ray as a 2nd tier guy, at his peak, lower 1st tier. j double is a better g and this makes sense. didnt realize he was top 10 scorer tho, pretty nice.

  • http://basketball-basic.com Pande

    I think Tayshun can, and Howard is in my list..

  • http://fjsdklf.com Jukai

    Bruno: I got Kevin Martin at my 48, actually… Around him, I have Jefferson, Iggy, and Marion.
    Tealish: I should have specified “wing players.” However, I do expect my centers to have range and passing ability, and this keeps Howard out of my top 15. Chamberlain, Jabbar, Shaq, Hakeem… they could all pass masterfully out of a double team and hit the open man. Howard can’t do this yet. It is troublesome.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Please put Shaq at 42. Please…! lmao

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    None of the Wizards have come up yet… or Rockets…. which is good for me.

  • http://www.nrl.com.au Money Bill Williams

    hursty, what is your email address, i got some discussion with you

  • http://www.nrl.com.au Money Bill Williams

    in all seriousness, would shaq even make this list?

  • overtime

    Did no one see prince hitting those awkward looking 3′s in the olympics then?

  • chintao

    Wow. It’s like Khalid read my mind….

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    jhurst @ live . com . au

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Shaq shouldnt really make the list. If he was going to it would’ve been at 50. But that was almost impossible for him to do at this stage of his career. Last year 06-07 he wouldve been around somewhere ( 40-50). Dikembe Mutumbo is the man though.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    @ Overtime: I also saw Yao Ming hitting awkward looking 3′s in the Olympics. Whats your point?

  • Mathew

    shaq should not make this list. Richard Jefferson will make this list. If Sheed makes this list i will lose all respect for the list and just stop reading it outright. 6’10″ 3 point shooters don’t do much for me unless your dirk who can go inside and out.

  • http://www.nrl.com.au Money Bill Williams

    haha at dikembe. always bigging the Rockets hursty( i hope they go good this year)

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    I’m 29 and balding too. I can’t hide the track of my tears.

  • Bruno

    what time do the post the #42?!?!?!?!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Around 8am Bruno. Hey Money I gave you my email above, in case you didnt notice.
    I noticed that on the homepage Michael Redd is dribbling a basketball. Dribbling? Really? He can dribble? I thought he was a shooter. Not a dribbler. This is supposed to be sarcasm but I suck at it. Point is, Redd is not a dribbler and ( I think) that SLAM is taking is taking the p1ss outta him. Or it could be my profound sense of humour :)

  • andrew

    I need to add that I have been going bald since 17. Ascent/descent/whatever you call it, I’m just glad I saw the add for headblade in Slam, otherwise I’d be rocking a terrible stubble from my clippers all year round. Us baldies gotta stick together. For this reason, I will allow Redd to be in the top 50. Hopefully Sheed is in here somewhere, based purely on his nice little hairless patch…

  • overtime

    @Hursty, my point being that Prince blatently can score outside the paint (altho Jkidd never could eitha, but whos gunna say he wasnt great?) and if your comparing the amount of three that Prince hits to the amount Yao does…you probably haven’t seen much basketball over the last few years

  • http://www.myspace.com/261bunzy King Bunzy

    This Kidd Deserves A Way Higher ranking! his Team is Illk! but his games is top_30!

  • Jeter

    His stroke is Top 5. Hi overall game, too high for 43. Overrated.

  • NBK

    Matthew said if sheed makes the list he will lose all respect way to just straight up show you know nothing about basketball.

  • CL SMOOTH

    Does he do anything other than shoot the ball!

  • macmcl14

    Sep.8 at 8:48 am
    DP says:
    I guess…he’s at least he’s a top five shooter.

    On who’s list????????????

  • Are you crazy!!!

    Michael Redd is a legend and he is not no.43 he is no.1 and he always was and always will be the best player in the history of the NBA!!!

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