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Monday, October 27th, 2008 at 8:00 am  |  127 responses

SLAMonline Top 50: LeBron James, no. 2

The definitive ranking of the best players in the NBA today…

by Russ Bengtson

Someday, we’ll look back on this and laugh.

Someday soon, perhaps, when LeBron James is throwing up 39/13/14 lines on the regular and winning championships and making more money that most European nations and fielding eight-digit offers from SLAMonline Top 50: LeBron James, no. 2teams from Algeria to Zimbabwe and looking like a cross between Oscar Robertson and Bo Jackson and saving General Motors and selling shoes and, you know, hitting free throws it will seem inconceivable that there was a time when LeBron James was not considered the best player in the NBA. There is, though. And we’re living in it.

Is it close? Of course. Given the choice of one player for one year to build around, it’s a pretty safe bet that a fair number of NBA GMs would gladly take LeBron. As it is, quite a few teams are doing everything but arranging “accidents” to make sure they can have a go at LeBron in the summer of ’10. (Sure, there are also other Class of ’03 prizes to pursue, but LeBron is the biggest and no one else comes close.) “NEW YORK — Knicks big men Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry were tragically vaporized yesterday when a Cablevision satellite crashed into their Rolls-Royces in the practice facility parking lot. Further tragedy was only avoided because Curry and Randolph had parked hundreds of yards away from anyone else’s cars and were dismissed from practice an hour early. Team owner James Dolan, president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D’Antoni were unavailable for comment.”

You know how many times Michael Jordan averaged at least 25, 7 and 7 in his career? Twice. You know how many times LeBron James has averaged at least 25, 7 and 7 in his career? Twice. Now, Mike posted his in an absurd 32.5/8/8 line in 1989, and LeBron has yet to average eight of anything. But does anyone think he won’t? No one’s averaged a triple-double since Oscar Robertson way back in 1962, but does anyone think it’s outside LeBron’s reach? Just wait until he turns 24.*

There is no more sure thing in sports than LeBron James eventually being the best player in the NBA, if not the best basketball player of all time. Just let him add a few things—a midrange jumper, better touch (and better judgement) from three, consistency at the line, more focus on the defensive end—and it won’t even be close. Here’s a guy built like Karl Malone who soars like Jordan and sees the court like Oscar, who, if he is to believed, is still getting taller and bigger without losing any of his phenomenal speed. And again, because it’s so unprecedented, he doesn’t turn 24 until December 30th. Jordan’s 32.5/8/8, his most well-rounded statistical season, came when he was 25. For LeBron, the best is yet to come.

Still, why compare him to the best of the best when he apparently isn’t even quite the best of the now? Why put that all-time weight on his back when he’s still striving to the best of his own time? This is just the way it’s been. Ever since LeBron came onto the national scene, he’s been lauded as the next big thing. The next biggest thing. The Chosen One and all that. King James. And he’s come so far, fulfilling so much of that potential in only five NBA seasons. He’s been to the Finals, won a scoring title, played in more career playoff games than Vince Carter. His points-per-game average is fifth all-time, and were he to walk away from the game right now, he’d be a lock for the Hall of Fame. That said, the promise of the future distracts from the reality of the present. LeBron James is not a finished product.

And maybe he never will be. There’s nothing wrong with that. There has yet to be a perfect player in any sport—I’m sure you remember that Jordan commercial about his failures being why he succeeds. And while that message was just another way to sell shoes—hey, Mike is human!—there was an element of truth to it. No one wins them all. Losing does teach a lesson. There’s a reason the road to the top is called a climb. You don’t start at the very top.

LeBron James is number two.

Just don’t expect him to stay here for long.

* Robertson actually averaged his triple-double—30.8 points, 11.4 assists and 12.5 rebounds—when he was 23. Also, he missed averaging additional triple-doubles by 3/10ths of an assist as a 22-year-old rookie, by half an assist as a 24-year old, and by 1/10th of a rebound as a 25-year old. Oscar was really, really, really good.

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  • jack schidt

    1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.hoopmixtape.com Simon S.Y Lawy

    no 2…

  • Si

    Wow these came early today…Nice job on the review. It will keep the absurd number of Kobe fans from moaning…and LeBron still has some growing and improvement to do. He’ll be at that One spot soon enough.

  • http://www.hoopmixtape.com Simon S.Y Lawy

    a manufacture king…

  • Ken

    The thing about the Big O missing triple double averages in the assist category, is that back then they only counted an assist if the recipient didn’t dribble. So if you passed to somebody but they took one dribble, then it wasn’t an assist. Big O mentioned this once and sounded real bitter.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Oscar Robertson averaged video game numbers. LeBron James looks like he was made from a video game.

  • Maria Callas

    “There is no more sure thing in sports than LeBron James eventually being the best player in the NBA, if not the best basketball player of all time. Just let him add a few things—a midrange jumper, better touch (and better judgement) from three, consistency at the line, more focus on the defensive end—and it won’t even be close.” i wonder if the writer is ironic or he is just plain & simple…..

  • http://nbaukfan.blogspot.com/ mat smith

    and finally its over, bet you wished you never started it, ah well ive enjoyed it, thanks guys

  • neaorin

    Here’s the thing… LeBron doesn’t seem to care enough about the regular season to average Oscar numbers. I’m not saying he’s been sleepwalking his way to a 25/7/7, but there were nights where he – along with most of the team – put it on cruise control. Try to remember MJ after some loss that put his team at 45 – 5 or some other ridiculous record… dude was pi$$ed off. LeBron will shrug off a midseason loss and keep getting ready for showtime. He doesn’t have MJ’s level of intensity on the court – I suspect this also has something to do with his average defense. But he really wants a ring, so look out come April.

  • folodadon17

    he is a great player
    but cant be king till he has a ring remeber that folks

  • Maria Callas

    @folodalon17….:so, Lenny Wilkens is king…?

  • http://www.friendster.com/sesa Sesa

    He’s great, but he is in a bad team and have a bad coach.

  • http://www.hoopmixtape.com Simon S.Y Lawy

    @maria nikos, as i said, a king of manufacture…

  • neaorin

    yes because 25/7/7 at 23yo and a Finals appearance with what everyone seems to agree is a crappy team with an equally crappy coach were manufactured by the media…

  • http://www.hoopmixtape.com Simon S.Y Lawy

    he’ll never average 25/7/7 and a final appea’ if he play in western con’…got it

  • Black Mamba

    folodadon17 says:
    he is a great player
    but cant be king till he has a ring remeber that folks

    I agree with you, Prince James has to do something in the league first to be considered king, yes he his 6-8,260, but when you think about it like that he should be dominating even more. So who knows what Prince James will be in the future, but lets just see Prince James play with a good Cavs team this year, with a better point guard and some better defensive player. Also to me when Prince James gets some killer instinct, instead of laughing, shrugging and biting his nails in tough moments then he will be king.

  • jub_al

    neaorin: very good point…

    …i’d hate to take a charge from Lebron,look at those arms! imagine what he’d be able to do as a wide receiver…

  • Bruno

    for how many seasons have Slam, and Lebron himself said he was gonna average a triple-double!?!?!
    great stats, but all his game is based on that said “karl malone frame”
    no class, no shot, no GUTS.
    that “sees the court like Oscar” was the dumbest thing, actually, 2nd, cause #1 was CLEARLY “39/13/14 lines”
    .
    the rules just have been made easier day after day.
    i wonder what would be Jordan’s and Oscar’s stats nowadays…
    KING NOTHING.
    overated!

  • kev

    People are so afraid to admit that Lebron is superior to kobe and has been for several years. Lebron is a better passer, rebounder, and an equally talented scorer.He also gets more from his teamates and is a great leader. Lebron doesn’t show fire???(neaorin) Do you actually watch the games or just sports center highlights??? Kobe has a better jumper but thats all! Where was that shot in the finals? Lebron took the Celtics to the brink of elimination with wally scezrbiak and ben wallace(didnt even have an injured boobie gibson) put up 45 in game seven and barely lost. He has also taken an even worse squad to the finals. Kobe couldn’t even get to game 7 with a far superior team and coach. Kobe needed a midseason gift from memphis just to get there in the overrated Western conference. Kobe has a team full of shooters, a legitimate big man and supposedly a great coach. If he is the best why did the Cletics smash them? Kobe is always all team defense but who does he shut down? His defense is based more on reputation. I see lebron spriting full court and throwing shots into the stands on a nightly basis but his d is lacking??? Come on! Head to head Lebron always gets the best of kobe, shut kobe down last year in the 4th and hit the game winner. Leron the most imressive Team USA Player and it’s unquestioned leader! Oh last thing, lebron is also the top 4th quarter scorer in the league by far! That crunch time when games are won and lost. Cavs led the league in 4th quarter comebacks with a different lineup every night thanks to team holdouts and a mediocre at best midseason remake. I can go on all day!!!! Im sorry everyone I was a bit extra but im sick of this argument Kobe is not near Lebron. I understand the hype can be annoying but don’t let it blind you from the truth.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Obviously Bruno. Thanks for enlightening all of us.

  • Bruno

    hey TADO…
    how are you?
    by the way… how is the ball licking on SLAM people going for you, i diot?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Bruno…..enough of the silliness. Russ, I’m glad one of the top 2 pieces actually read well, nice job showing where the kid stands in the game today.

  • Maria Callas

    THE LEBRON JAMES CASE: the next A.I. in terms of unfulfiled potential. Had the chance to become a combination of MAGIC and MJ and instead he decided to became a taller-stronger version of A.I.(“i’ll go for my numbers and my business plan and if i have time i ‘ll see if can do something with my jumper…”)….He was crowned by force “KING” from the NBA marketing. A rational move at the time having in mind that M.J was finished, TD had no fun appeal and KOBE was in the middle of the Colorado case. That propably erased any last chance for him to try and really improve his weak points(shooting,shooting,shooting, defence).Since then his development is basically that of a man becoming taller-faster-stronger but NOT more skilled. A perimeter player CANNOT be considered complete-great(NBA – EUROPE ,whatever..) if he has no jumper and in the words of Eddie Johnson “his shooting mechanics are just terrible”. The reason why he cannot be considered complete is because whenever he comes against a serious defence he becomes mediocre.This is exactly the case with Lebron (although hard to witness while highlights of his dunks are all you see in comercials): in almost all the cases that he faced a serious defence (both Olympics in the medal rounds,against the Spurs,against the Celtics)and he was forced to do what a perimeter player is expected to do (“SHOOT”) he bricked his way to elimination. No surprise here of course, the surprise is how people that have spend a life time covering hoops can’t observe such basic things…well,you know something they CAN observe,be sure on this….but when your clients are Jukai,Hursty,Teddy (you get the idea)there are certain things you can write…at this moment Lebron is a stronger Josh Smith with a way better flour game. Big disapointment on Lebron and really annoyed from the media attempt to force him as the second coming of M.J…

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    I am not one who shares the popular opinion that the winning the ring and being the man on your team makes you “the best player”. Mj was widely seen as rhe best long before getting his first (with a little help from his friends, of course). Bron is Incredible. The 2nd round duel against pierce and the champs was inspiring. Guys wrapping arms around his torso hoping to stop layups ANd failing while getting embarassing and1′s in beijing, that was just disturbing. He’s (in my opinion) already better than yellow/purple man.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    unfulfilled potential? Maria you might want to wait for him to reach ummm 28, 29 before unleashing that gem on us. Wow

  • Bruno

    eboy, why do u have this idea that u rule the posts here?
    you write your stuff, i write whatever i want, and this goes to everyone, ok?
    you want to debate? fine, i like it. you don’t? nice too, but don’t come here as if you were owner of anything.
    very “clever” to write “where the kid stands in the game today.” by the way.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    While you are back there, can you tickle the a$$ or something? Make yourself useful.

  • Maria Callas

    @Darksaber….:honestly i hope you are right and i am wrong….but i have seen the same story with A.I. and you can draw conclusions for many things happening with Lebron….

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    The Hawks took the Celtics to the brink of elimination too Kev.

  • neaorin

    @Maria: did the phrase ‘LeBron James is not a finished product’ pass you by? You know, from the freaking article itself? And are we seriously talking about ‘unfulfilled potential’ regarding a 23 year-old with at least 10 years left in the league?

  • Bruno

    i’m really out. really… MARIA CALLAS, thanks for the writing.
    thats everything i was just waiting to see here.
    i would copy and paste, but not necessarily.
    its all said.

  • kev

    how does lebon have not shot? are you watching? he isnt ray allen but you cant tell me the man cant shoot. 48 game 6 anyone? 45 game 7 anyone? was he not breaking billups ankles and hitting three’s. was he not shooting over tayshaun on the wing? was he not shooting over pierce and kg in the playoffs? does he not stroke threes for team usa? Did mike not attack the basket with when he was younger? DId kobe not attack the basket when he was younger? why fault him for his physical gifts? there have been plenty of big strong and fast athletes in the nba. The josh smith comparison is acually perfect but not for the side you argue. If lebron isn’t skilled then josh smith should be just as good right? iguoldala should be just as good right? Vince carter should be just as good? Tmac should be just as good right?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    maria, maria. I luuv A.I. But he didnt waltz into the league as a pimply teen, with everyone riding his jock ( remember the brawl and jailtime?) THEN produce ridiculous numbers from the get go. Lebron is a zarcan from planet Zarcania. No one in his position leads a mediocre team to the finals and Exceeds impossible expectations.

  • http://nba.com ninja cool

    2 days to come up with Big Fun’s straightforward article then the top 2 guys in 1 day? weird.

  • kev

    Maria how can you compare lebron to AI? AI never passed, was undersized, had a horrible attitude, never hit the weights, didn’t like to practice, beefed with every coach he had. An I am a sixers fan lol. Go Phillies!

  • http://www.hoopmixtape.com Simon S.Y Lawy

    co-sign Co Co, comment 10:11… my hawks did it too…game 7 with celtic

  • vc

    Everyone wants to hate, yes he is the king at 23 he is puttink up way better numbers than kobe did when he was that age, hey he is putting up better numbers than he is now and he didnt even have the supporting cast that kobe has or had but he seemed to make it to the finals and almost beat the champs(chumps)last year. All i ask is for the hate to stop and just ask yourself this if you were 23 could you do the things he does hell get any 23 year old and put him in lb shoes and see if he could do it. Go Cavs f@^% you to all haters.

  • jay

    Good pick…and also wise to point to the future. I’ll expect a 31/9/9 line somewhere down the line…triple double? I’ll belive it when I see it.

  • Maria Callas

    One more thing: i have Lebron as the leader of the “Flo-Jo” club in the NBA(Howard ,Dwade,Ben Wallace been other obvious members..) . I have a running BET with a track&field friend of mine (who also likes hoops) on who is going to be the first between them to pull a “Flo-Jo” up until the age of 50…ZO barelly escapped but i have Lebron as my favorite…i mean,his face has become more rectangular than,..forget it.

  • Maria Callas

    @vc…..:i can feel you cool….

  • Bruno

    Maria!!! watch out!
    messing with James is already enough…
    don’t come teasing with “Flo-Jo”… they are all americans! they are gonna CRACK now!
    ps: they really think it was just “nature” that gave a 17 year old kid that body… yeah, right.
    same nature Ben Johnson used to went through back in the day…

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    What I learned from this article is that Oscar Robertson might be the greatest basketball player of all-time.

  • http://si damascus

    kev… u his trippin… saying lebron was the most impressinve player in the olympics…everyone knows that d-wade was the most impressive player at the olympics.. get ur head out of ur butt… and saying lebron is a better 4th quater scorer than kobe is funny… okay lebron lead the league in 4th quater pts last year… but u know how many times kobe did that in his career.. lebron did one time.. before that year..lebron was always talk about him not being clutch…dont disrespect the great kobe… cause kobe was clutch since the begginning of the lakers championship run..lebron cold as hell though…but kobe had to be num 1 again..after winning mvp,first-team defense,all-nba anaminus,num 1 seed in the west,and going to the finals all in the 2007-08 season,dont ignore the accomplshments.. this was the right spot for lebron

  • http://its-mitch.blogspot.com/ Paps

    If Jordan played in todays game would he not average a triple double?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I’ve never seen a tape of the Big O but those stats are mind-boggling. Unreal. I guess you have to let the haters hate… Dude averaged 30, 8 and 7 last year and I’ve read on this board that he was a no-talent bruiser. Yes, he needs consistency at the line, a better mid-range game and some low block moves. No one’s denying that. Now, you try to stop him and get back to me.

  • http://si damascus

    thats why i respect kobe… ppl that are not fans to him, view kobe as the bad guy,villian,enemy,.. we need that in sports,cause everything succesful thing kobe does,ppl hate on it, and dont wont to see kobe succeed,i know alot of ppl that dont want to see kobe win another ring,cause they think he will get big headed about it..thats the thing..kobe as a target on his back,ppl that are not fans just dont want to see him winning rings..alot ppl will relief to see kobe lose in the finals,and made their days to see kobe fail,and thats what we need in sports.. is that badguy.. and that is kobe

  • http://www.hoopmixtape.com Simon S.Y Lawy

    ppl scare of kobe, cuz he’s way too good …

  • JE

    paps: probably not, but he’d average 40 ppg in his sleep.

    anyway, this was a sweet article.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Hi Russ. Good article.

  • Squirrel7

    Don’t get me wrong, I know Lebron is awesome, but you listed quite a lot of things he needed to improve on, which probably made him sound less of a player than he actually is.

    It’s like saying that the Collins brothers would be good if they improved their offense, defense and all-around general basketball IQ!!!!

    Other than that, good write-up, and probably a fair ranking.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Not nearly as good as MY article, obviously, but still, pretty good.

  • Maria Callas

    @BRUNO…..:doesn’t have to do with countries….has to do with human nature(being greedy)and we see “Flo – Jo” cases all over the world….(chinese athletes, Bolt, weight lifters, Kenteris, Roberto Carlos etc…)

  • kev

    kobe did accomplish alot this year. I’m not sure he deserved the mvp though cause it wasnt even his best individual year year. they got to the finals becasue they got gasol in a trade and phoenix decided to ruin there team by bringing in a washed up shaq

  • Froggiestyle

    Bron will never get a ring with the Cavs – so where’s he off to next?

  • Bruno

    Maria, i didn’t mean “Flo-Jo” is an american phonemo… its everywhere… og course.
    just take a look at tour the france.
    i meant don’t mess with Flo-Jo, calling that a “Flo-Jo” cause she is a kinda of god there.
    i was just making fun.

  • bballer

    Russ bengtson, you should have done the article on Kobe Bryant as well, ’cause Ryan did a horrible job. He did little to convince anybody maybe even himself that Kobe is actually the best player right now.

  • Bruno

    * everything wrong… i meant “phenomenon”.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Wasn’t Russ getting villified just last week?

  • Chris

    Here’s the difference: Kobe is more skilled, better shot, better handle, better touch around the basket, better off-hand, better understanding of the game BUT LeBron is better due to his freakish athletic abilities. Kobe deserves credit for maxing out on his potential, LeBron is barely scratching the surface, but despite all that Bron Bron is better. Just compare their performances against the Celtics in the playoffs, LeBron’s size and strenth allowed him to go whereever he wanted on the court, he’s unguardable. Kobe, despite his skill, could be bodied and pushed around and forced to settle. If you want a player who has mastery of every facet of the game, you’d pick Kobe, if you wanted one player to give you the best shot at winning a 7 game series, it would be LeBron, and isn’t that what it’s all about.

  • LandofCleve

    Thank you Kev!
    kev says:
    People are so afraid to admit that Lebron is superior to kobe and has been for several years. Lebron is a better passer, rebounder, and an equally talented scorer.He also gets more from his teamates and is a great leader. Lebron doesn’t show fire???(neaorin) Do you actually watch the games or just sports center highlights??? Kobe has a better jumper but thats all! Where was that shot in the finals? Lebron took the Celtics to the brink of elimination with wally scezrbiak and ben wallace(didnt even have an injured boobie gibson) put up 45 in game seven and barely lost. He has also taken an even worse squad to the finals. Kobe couldn’t even get to game 7 with a far superior team and coach. Kobe needed a midseason gift from memphis just to get there in the overrated Western conference. Kobe has a team full of shooters, a legitimate big man and supposedly a great coach. If he is the best why did the Cletics smash them? Kobe is always all team defense but who does he shut down? His defense is based more on reputation. I see lebron spriting full court and throwing shots into the stands on a nightly basis but his d is lacking??? Come on! Head to head Lebron always gets the best of kobe, shut kobe down last year in the 4th and hit the game winner. Leron the most imressive Team USA Player and it’s unquestioned leader! Oh last thing, lebron is also the top 4th quarter scorer in the league by far! That crunch time when games are won and lost. Cavs led the league in 4th quarter comebacks with a different lineup every night thanks to team holdouts and a mediocre at best midseason remake. I can go on all day!!!! Im sorry everyone I was a bit extra but im sick of this argument Kobe is not near Lebron. I understand the hype can be annoying but don’t let it blind you from the truth.
    Kobe is not even close to being as great as LeBron. Don’t even waste your time trying to prove it to these Kobe lovers, they don’t let little things like facts sway their thinking!!!
    One more little fact, the CAVs have SWEPT the Lakers for 2 years after spliting with them the year before those two sweeps. LeBron has out played Kobe in at least 5 of those 6 games. Last year LeBron hit the winning shot in BOTH games AND Kobe had an attempt at the buzzer and missed in BOTH games!

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Kobe>Lebron, get over yourself if you dont agree

  • T Money

    What? No Zach Randolph on this list?

  • T Money

    I find it interesting that Lebron is the only dude in the top 10 (or 20?) without another team mate on the list

  • T Money

    That said, i’d still have Kobe @ 1

  • Jeter

    You had Lebron James ranked here at number 2. Then why heck are you comparing him with Michael Jordan? I have much respect for The King, but your line is simply absurd. Someday, LBJ will be number 1. Just not today. But we live in the Now.

  • http://www.nba.com/bucks/ Keith

    Jeter, I think pretty much the article says that one day Bron will be better than Jordan. And then it says he isn’t right now. Hence his number 2 spot.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    December 30th birthdays: LeBron James, Tiger Woods, and me! I’m guessing God ran out of all the good sh*t with them and gave me the leftovers. Lucky me.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Loser.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I think degenerate is better, but that works as well.

  • tealish

    Lol, I love how T Money figures that out NOW.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    A lot of people seem to agree that Kob has a better touch around the basket. Ho-hum. I’m DYING to be convinced but I don’t buy this at all. Everyone agrees (rightfully so) that Kobe is more skilled but how can you guys not mention that Bron’s court vision is something Kob will never ever touch? Objectivity is a muther.

  • Terrell

    I know it seems as if Lebron has been around forever but he is only 23 with a whole lot of room to grow, and if and when that happens, and if Cleveland puts the talent around him or he leaves for a more talented roster in a bigger market…He will be the KING without question. People talk about Lebron like he is in his early 30′s with 10 years in or so…this guy hasnt touched the surface of his potential and he still is the second best player in the game and has been for about the past 3 years now.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    does anyone know lebrons max on the bench press?

  • http://its-mitch.blogspot.com/ Paps

    Until he get some style into his game he’ll always be #2.

  • B Deezy

    i wonder, out of all the ppl who post on here, actually play bball…maybe then they’d appreciate the game more instead of jockin’ on the ballers like they family…

  • a-rod

    ok people here are the facts. kobe is a tad better right now but in june the king will prevail in a game 6 finals win over the lakers. mark my word!!!

  • a-rod

    and im not a delusional cavs fan. im a realistic hoops fan who knows the power of marketing and the nba proved with the tim donahue fiasco that some things are just manufactured for the benefit of the almighty dollar.so can we all agree that kobe vs lebron in june would settle all arguements?

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    LeBron James is good at basketball.

  • a-rod

    paps. do you know anything about basketball? style? um rafer alston has “style” in his game and tim dincan has “substance” in his game. we all know who the better player is.

  • a-rod

    sorry.duncan

  • http://its-mitch.blogspot.com/ Paps

    I’m not saying he’s not good. I’m saying he has no style. No style.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    He styled pretty good on the Pistons in that infamous 4th quarter.

  • ZZ

    Just want to say one thing.

    BRON IS SEVERELY SPLAY-FOOTED. HE SHOULD BE A SPECIAL OLYMPIAN.

  • a-rod

    paps.please use youtube.its helpful for situations like this.

  • http://its-mitch.blogspot.com/ Paps

    Wouldn’t crack a top 50 most styling players list.

  • jrp14

    Lebron is the best, and thats final…but I dont hate you slam.

  • http://si damascus

    kobe post is killing lebron post… 607 to 87

  • Taylor

    this is an outrage

  • Taylor

    he is the best by a long shot, LeBron is the king

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Once again, Oscar Robertson is better than Kobe and Lebron and I’m beginning to wonder if he wasn’t better than Magic Johnson. Magic always gets to be Number One on that list, but dammit Oscar appears to have been an unstoppable force just on his stats alone. And Oscar won a ring once he got Kareem too.

  • http://AllAbout-Penis-Enlargement.com Jukai

    My list goes Jordan, Wilt, Magic, Kareem, Bird… then I always throw Oscar in. Always.

  • Anton

    all hail

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    My list Jordan, Bill Russel, Julius Erving, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Oscar, Wilt, Shaq, Kobe, then Duncan.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    I wonder, why hasn’t Lebron taken part in a dunk contest? If he really wants to surpass MJ – and, well, Kobe – I think he should, just for the heck of it, take part in it. He probably would win it, too, adding another legendary performance to his growing legacy.

  • Dwyane

    I agree with Maria Callas right now hes taking that A.I. road. He only got stronger not even faster. But if LeBron stops working hard and falls into the hollywood scene (which he probably will) and if he trys becoming to much of a global icon he aint gonna win any ring.

  • Anton

    sit yo ass down!

  • Anton

    Maria, the only way LeBron and AI are similar is that they’re forced to become one-man teams. You can’t win a ring with 1 superstar and a squad of mediocre players.
    And it’s not LeBron’s or AI’s fault who’s on the floor, the fact is they work with what they’ve got and it’s a miracle either of them can carry a team to the playoffs, let alone the finals.
    You make it sound like they have given up and choose to get beaten in the playoffs. While the reality is that they get their teammates involved but when it’s crunch time the leader has to take the shot and take over.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    ^^^ Co-Sign Anton. @ BETCATS: I disagree.

  • KA

    i still cant get over how big this guy is (no homo).

  • Joe_6Pack

    @Maria Callas : I do agree with LeBron is good he seems so manufactured.

  • David

    If Lebron had Kobe’s team in the finals last year, think it would have been a closer series? If Kobe took the place of Lebron on the Cavs last year, do they make the play offs?

  • T Money

    101 Comments? Could it be that we are all Lebroned out?

  • kas

    no matter how many rings lebron wins, no matter how many seasons he averages 64 ppg, 32 rpg and 17 apg, i’ll never like him until he developes a beautiful game. When he gets a jump shot as smooth as jordan, allen or even arenas, when he drives with grace instead of just travelling and bulldozing his way to the hoop, when he gets handles(yes, his handles now look terrible no matter what you say), then i migth like him. his dunks are spectacular, but because of his length they don’t look as great as for example steve franchise’s dunks(back when he actually could dunk). lebron is not even comparable to kobe, who should go down in history as the second best player ever, behind mike. lebron should consider himself lucky if he gets one ring and ends up top 10 all time.

  • Maria Callas

    @kas…..:exactly (he can’t do these things cause he is basically a bodybuilder….

  • rikson

    @Kas: Actually, bron should be happy if he can sells fries at burger king next year…

  • Maria Callas

    @rikson….:this is what he is doing(indirectly) for the last 5 years…

  • RedRum

    can we stop it please with the Oscar triple double average… It has been shown that this was a statistical artefact, due to the ballooned number of possessions, lack of defense, faster pace, number of shots taken and missed. MJs 32/8/8 was more impressive, given the slow pace of the game and tougher defenses. If Mike was playing in the Oscar era, he would be 45/15/12…

  • Maria Callas

    if Lebron was playing in the Oscar era…?how about 45/25/15..???!!! no kiding,he could score and rebound better than Baylor(same game,way bigger-stronger athlete),and pass as much as Oscar…..

  • rikson

    *sarcasm

  • http://its-mitch.blogspot.com/ Paps

    kas. exactly, no style.

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  • Anton

    that powder thing is wicked awesome though

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Nice job Russ.
    I would like to see some extensive Oscar Robertson footage.

  • Jason Castro

    Lebron is a CYBORG….compare him to the greatest of all time Air Jordan? Not yet! HELL NO!!!!People have been saying this about Kobie for ten years….and Kobie don’t even come close to Jordan’s accomplishments…I will wait again for another ten years and then start comparing Lebron the beast to the greatest player ever to step onto the court…..

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Redrum
    You want to actually produce some article or something that documents all those things you mentioned?
    You could make the argument that Jordan played against diluted talent because of the expansion of the league while in Oscar’s era nearly every team had one or two stars or superstars, and a plethora of solid role players.
    Anyway, I’m not saying you’re wrong about all those things, I’d just like some sort of reference to check it out myself.

  • Brandon

    He’s king.. cos he was crowned – all star mvp.

    rings are what you get when you’re married.. Although can you have a king without a queen..

    maybe he is a prince… but he doesn’t have a ring..

    Wade does.

  • http://www.GotKickstv.com Sean

    And they say lebron is number 2 plus garnett higher than pierce wow pierce should be higher especially after tonights game look at the stats he proved it but lebrons the man though

  • Maria Callas

    KOBE!!KOBE!!!KOBE!!!!!

  • http://www.nba.com B.I.G.

    Lebron is great.
    Most athletic player in the NBA.
    Hes number 2 for a reason. That reason is Kobe.
    Once Kobe gets old, he’ll be number one.
    As long as Kobe is here, Lebron gonna stay #2.
    I do think Lebron is great. But not the best basketball player ever, will he ever be?
    In my opinion, he can average 30/8/8 or even 30/10/10, but that doesn’t mean he is or will be the best. Kobe, and Jordan didn’t need to average that much to proove they were the best. Kobe is a great rebounder, and assister, but he doesn’t need to do that. Lebron has to get those rebounds. Offensive rebounding, lebron is higher by only 0.6rpg. Which shows that Kobe tries to get offensive, but defensive hes not too worried.
    Congrats to Lebron. Sad they lost to Celtics yesterday, i wanted Cavs to win.

  • Maria Callas

    KOBE!!KOBE!!!KOBE!!

  • Kenny Anderson’s Auditor

    Can someone find out how Lebroken’s ankles are after Pierce turned him out on that in-and-out pull up J?

  • Maria Callas

    KOBE!!!!KOBE!!!!!!!!KOBE!!!!!!

  • kobe

    kobe kobe

  • http://hot twisted AZ

    Lebron is the best next Jordan,, kobe should be number 2 or even 3 thats wacck

  • J.J. Shah

    LEBRON IS NUMBER 1!!!!!!!!! he can drive to the basket, play defence, shoot and score. kobe can shoot but is a crybaby ballhog. The King is better than Kobe

  • frank

    lebron sucks!travel man with crabs…

  • Smith

    You are a hater

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