November 24, 2008 7:58 am  |  65 Comments

Celtic Pride: The Great Divide

Where green becomes one and everyone else fades into black.

by Holly MacKenzie

“I am who I am because of those around me.”

Standing in the same room as Kevin Garnett is an interesting experience. Never in your life will you feel so invisible. I say this because you literally will be entirely and completely invisible in the FocusCeltics locker room during pregame media availability.

Not that Kevin will be unaccommodating or unpleasant, he just truly will not see you. Or anyone else who is not wearing Celtics green. You want to talk about intensity, this man embodies it. We all know this, say this, hear this and think it, but to experience it in the flesh, it’s something that is indescribable.

You know how they say that genius is only a step away from madness? This applies to K.G. in the athletic realm. Kevin Garnett straddles the line dividing intensity and insanity better than anyone.

K.G. has also passed this down, allowing it to filter down through his team, player by player, staff member by staff member and now, the Boston Celtics are entirely and completely untouchable. At least in their own minds.

When they say they believe that the only people who can defeat them are themselves, they mean it. You feel it when you step into that locker room. Vibrant energy emanating from extreme focus, the quiet storm of intensity, the combination engulfs you, swallowing you whole and before you become aware of what is happening, you are invisible. Not even a spectator, you fade into black. Or at least, into the backdrop where the only things that count are the 11 other guys in green.

A reporter approaches Garnett, notepad in hand, asking, “K.G.?” There is no response. He tries again, “Kevin, you have a minute?” Again, nothing. Once more with, “Kevin Garnett?” This time, Garnett turns and walks into the shower area, no flinch, no glance, no movement in the direction of the person requesting his time. He didn’t see him.

Rondo then appears on the scene, notifying the reporter that, “Yeah, he doesn’t talk pregame.” As though it is normal to be dismissed in this fashion. When the topic turns to Rondo himself and whether he can give a moment or two, he quickly says that he has to go shower. Another routine. This one started by Ray Allen.

One by one, as the players finish getting dressed, each have a reason for why they are unable to talk. A star like K.G., it is almost expected. On this team, every player is as much of a star as the stars surrounding them. At least in their minds.

Ubuntu, at its finest.

Showers after shooting around and before game time. Two sticks of gum that have to be handed to a star player by a star PR member. Fist pounds that need to be given, meticulously. The Celtics have their routines, regimens and rituals that simply cannot be broken. They cannot, do not, will not, deviate from these habits. Why would they, when they ended up with a championship last year and are demanding nothing less again this time around?

While other teams are starting to accuse them of being rough and tumble, having heads that may be getting too big, encouraging the refs to keep their eyes on the Celtics, it doesn’t bother Boston. It doesn’t bother Boston because unless it comes from their coach or one of their veteran leaders, they don’t hear you.

Fan, media, opponent. One and the same, to this team. There is a world of shamrocks and Celtic pride and then there is everyone else. If you fall into the latter, you do not exist until after the game and after another victory has been earned, tucked into the back pocket and filed away.

Once the triumph has been attained, the sopping, sweat-soaked jerseys are slipped off and minute by minute, the armor that keeps the rest of the world on the outside begins to fade. While we are all various degrees of gray pregame, the color slowly begins to include more than just shades of green as we are now allowed to join this post-game scene.

Going through the motions, sitting at lockers, getting dressed, and checking phones for messages that were left while they were on their own planet, this is all another part of the routine, only this one, we are all familiar with.

These players who only a couple of hours ago seemed as though they were on a different plain, are now back onto our level, joking, talking, laughing and smiling. Interacting with the rest of the real world because their reality is one that is split into two distinct parts.

Before Game and After Game. They’ve got it down to a science. It’s an art form for this organization that has been used to being the best and now gets to reclaim what they feel is their rightful place at the top of the mountain. With enough preparation, dedication and simplistic routine, they are confident that there they will stay.

They will stay there because this was only game 15 out of 82. With 67 more regular season wins to left to fight for and another 16 playoff victories that they feel belong to them, there will be more time living in the Before Game reality than the After because, when they are in their own world, they are entirely untouchable.

And if you don’t think so, it doesn’t matter. You are invisible anyway.

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  • Ryne Nelson Posted: Nov.24 at 8:00 am
    Great piece, Holly. A lot of people wondered if the Celtics would come back with the same intensity this season. It sounds like they’ve got it.

  • Marcel Mutoni Posted: Nov.24 at 8:02 am
    let it be known that the ‘reporter’ who KG completely ignored was myself. it was a terrifying experience. thanks, Kevin!

  • namik Posted: Nov.24 at 8:05 am
    “… the Boston Celtics are entirely and completely untouchable. At least in their own minds.”
    Also in the minds of the refs. Zing! Nice piece but my hate for the Celtics won’t let me agree with most of it. Guess I’m invisible.

  • James The Balla Posted: Nov.24 at 8:08 am
    Yall should check my name out

  • NACHOveli Posted: Nov.24 at 8:10 am
    The C’s aint nuttin to F@!k with! can we just fast foward to xmas when they go heads up with the lake show? Welcome to the platnum era hoop fans

  • fluxland Posted: Nov.24 at 8:24 am
    Great post, Ms. Holly. Slowly I am starting to respect/understand his “act”. Btw, you know who else is invisible? The Raptors. p.s. told ya they would become a trainwreck. Contenders! HA!

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 8:36 am
    Couldn’t he have just said I don’t do pregame interviews as opposed to ignoring the reporter? That’s rude.

  • Michael Posted: Nov.24 at 8:43 am
    agree with Co Co, he just sounds like a d*ck

  • Simon S.Y Lawy Posted: Nov.24 at 8:47 am
    Great post by Holly, but Celtic are completely rude…BOOOOOOOO

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 8:48 am
    Pretty soon they are all going to start talking in third person. We all know how these things progress. :P

  • Holly MacKenzie Posted: Nov.24 at 8:49 am
    It wasn’t rudeness. It was intensity. It was KG. There honestly is a difference that I don’t think can be explained until you are there. Nothing, no one, can reach him pregame. I don’t even think he speaks to his temmamates. In his own world. Truly, as he prepares. It wasn’t frustrating, it was absolutely amazing to witness.

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 8:53 am
    I think it would be perceived as rudeness from almost any other player in the league.

  • Michael Posted: Nov.24 at 9:08 am
    Well Holly i hope one day i can get into a locker room and be ignored by someone who is good at playing a sport, that would be awesome.

  • Holly MacKenzie Posted: Nov.24 at 9:09 am
    And that is why he is Kevin Garnett. He defies reason, like most of those who are truly great.

  • Michael Posted: Nov.24 at 9:13 am
    truly great? at basketball, yes. I think you put these guys on way too high a pedestal

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 9:15 am
    I’ll take your word for it that it was “intensity”, but from where I stand it just sounds rude. I don’t care if it’s Kevin Garnett or Kevin Martin, it just seems rude.

  • Boing Dynasty Posted: Nov.24 at 9:22 am
    I know i wasnt there, but theres no way KG didnt hear marcel, i guess its just easier to ignore someone then say “i dont speak before games” for the 700 000th time.

  • Boing Dynasty Posted: Nov.24 at 9:26 am
    Also Perk’s primal screams after meaningless dunks in blow outs, and his perma-scowl are SO lame. Get off KGs nuts. Perk is a D!ck.

  • Holly MacKenzie Posted: Nov.24 at 9:26 am
    CoCo, I’d call it rude if he was that way postgame. He most definitely wasn’t. After the game, he doesn’t just answer your questions with some boring, cliched stock answers, he gives you what he thinks, even if others may prefer him to be more diplomatic. He also doesn’t just mumble his way through the postgame scrum, he was really, really good. Maybe that doesn’t make up for it to you, but it only made me respect the level of focus of that entire team more. That was the “Great divide” that I wrote about. Pre and post game, these guys are an entirely different team. Postgame, they are as open and talkative with the media and just open and talkative with each other and the locker room attendants as any team I’ve seen. Michael, you can say what you will and have your opinions about players/personalities/attitudes but one thing that is undisputed is that KG IS great at basketball. That is all I was implying with that sentence, this was a piece about basketball. Not how Kevin Garnett acts when he leaves an arena, not about who he is when he is not working. I don’t know that, nor pretend to and I don’t think many do. Maybe this was something you really had to be there to witness.

  • Cub Buenning Posted: Nov.24 at 9:32 am
    I see Kenyon do that to young reporters almost every game.
    Boing, Martin has probably uttered the statement those 700,000 times, you mentioned. Every team/player has their own ind’l pregame protocols.
    Good stuff, Holly.

  • Boing Dynasty Posted: Nov.24 at 9:41 am
    speaking of Martin, i heard the most obscure team promotion ever, watching that Denver game yesterday. If the Nuggets score over 103 points during a home game, the next day you can take your ticket to a local Taco Bell and recive 3 tacos for 1 dollar, with the purchase of a drink? WTF? Is JR Smith the head of the PR dept.?

  • Boing Dynasty Posted: Nov.24 at 9:42 am
    speaking of Martin, i heard the most obscure team promotion ever, watching that Denver game yesterday. If the Nuggets score over 103 points during a home game, the next day you can take your ticket to a local Taco Bell and recive 3 tacos for 1 dollar, with the purchase of a drink? WTF? Is JR Smith the head of the marketing dept. now?

  • Boing Dynasty Posted: Nov.24 at 9:42 am
    sweet.

  • Michael Tillery Posted: Nov.24 at 10:10 am
    Excellent piece Starchild. I wrote about something similar last year called 50 wins ain’t shhhhh. It’s something you have to experience yourself to understand. Boston’s locker room is incredible.

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 10:18 am
    What if they had this same intensity and they were losing? Would we excuse it then? It’s just like dating, sometimes we put up with a little more crap when the person is really attractive. That doesn’t excuse the shady ish they do, but we’re certainly a lot more patient.

  • Michael Tillery Posted: Nov.24 at 10:41 am
    You really have to see it Co Co. It’s nothing disrespectful. Most players don’t talk pre game. Philly is good probably because they are cool with the other writers and I, but it’s not the norm across the league. They don’t want the influence. Isn’t that understandable?

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 10:46 am
    It’s understandable, I just think it was rude to not just say I don’t do pregame interviews. There’s something to be said for having manners. While KG has been known for his “intensity’ for years I think its a bit contrived coming from most of the rest of the team.

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 10:49 am
    And, it’s not like this was some Boston beat writer who knows the pre game rituals and decided to bother him anyway. This was someone in a whole other country who doesn’t know the Celtics routine. He didnt have to ignore him, that’s all I’m saying.

  • cole Posted: Nov.24 at 11:39 am
    Fine piece of journalism. A+

  • [...] Also out there: Slam Magazine finds out how intense KG is. A reporter approaches Garnett, notepad in hand, asking, “K.G.?” There is no response. He tries again, “Kevin, you have a minute?” Again, nothing. Once more with, “Kevin Garnett?” This time, Garnett turns and walks into the shower area, no flinch, no glance, no movement in the direction of the person requesting his time. He didn’t see him. [...]

  • Myles Brown Posted: Nov.24 at 12:11 pm
    Leon Powe is hilarious.

  • Marcel Mutoni Posted: Nov.24 at 12:51 pm
    to be honest, i wasn’t hurt or offended that garnett totally blew me off. it was a bit startling, and i’m glad rondo told me that he doesn’t speak prior to games before i did something idiotic like tap him on the shoulder or something. that could’ve ended very badly for me and my health bill.

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 2:01 pm
    You should have tapped him in the hopes that he would flip out even though we both know it wouldn’t happen. You could have brought a civil suit. ;)

  • John D Posted: Nov.24 at 2:40 pm
    GREAT piece, Holly.

  • c's suck Posted: Nov.24 at 2:58 pm
    total bj of an article. the penny theatrics in boston will never end as long as kg is there to direct.

  • Avid_Celtics_Reader Posted: Nov.24 at 3:24 pm
    I see where you are going with the intensity angle but it doesn’t make complete sense. It’s common knowledge that KG (like many other stars) doesn’t talk pregame. But I’ve read plenty of pregame interviews with Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen, whom you said don’t talk pregame because to KG’s influence. I have to ask, when were you there? Was it before a big game? How much time did you spend in the locker room? Did you personally try to talk to any of the players? This is a bold generalization to make. I always read a lot of pregame quotes and this doesn’t seem like a 100% accurate depiction of how things really are.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Nov.24 at 3:39 pm
    No Posey, no PJ Brown? We’ll see how things turn out in the Playoffs.

  • Ben Collins Posted: Nov.24 at 3:45 pm
    Holly, this is phenomenal and you know this.
    That said, I disagree with it at its base. Your status should not prevent anyone from a mere platitude. If you can’t incorporate an “ask me after the game,” into your pregame ritual, you have a shitty pregame ritual.
    What’s funny is that athletes don’t understand this concept — that their universal admiration is completely circumstantial. You see it with once-famous hockey players, now grasping at straws, being viewed as bitter instead of intense because there’s just no one there to romanticize their intensity.
    And that’s all we’re really doing, no? Giving the benefit of the doubt to those who will not even give the benefit of acknowledging one’s existence.
    Watch when people can’t afford seats. When those press tables, now commodities, become emptier and emptier, places for cold conversation with Who We Have Left. Watch.
    And when he’s all alone at night — at the end of day — and it’s just you and him in a room, he’ll want to talk. He’ll want it bad. Believe you me.

  • Holly MacKenzie Posted: Nov.24 at 3:51 pm
    Avid Celts: To my knowledge the only guy who spoke to anyone pregame was Ray and that was very briefly, with a TV guy. I was also trying to show the intensity of the team that has trickled down from KG, while Rondo has picked up on Ray’s routine. This was before the game on Sunday and I actually had a conversation with their PR people as I had to arrange an interview with a player who is not one of the big three. I was told that he would not be available pregame and I’d have to talk with him postgame, even though there is 45 minutes of pregame time for media to do just that. Apparently, it is not only KG who doesn’t talk pregame. And yeah, there are a lot of bigger stars who don’t speak to media before the game, but I have never experienced anything like the intensity and focus in that locker room. It was great. I’d be happy if my team was that dialed in before they hit the court.

  • Holly MacKenzie Posted: Nov.24 at 3:54 pm
    Ben Collins, I hear you. I’m with you when guys are jerks, but the C’s were all great with the media postgame, so I have no complaints. I was a bit apprehensive about getting my guy I needed to speak with postgame, but their PR guy was fantastic and ensured I had everything I needed. Kevin was great, Rondo great, all of the guys were available. Ray spent a good 15 minutes with a beat writer giving him everything he needed. They are very accessible, just not before they hit the court. I respect that.

  • Avid_Celtics_Reader Posted: Nov.24 at 4:09 pm
    I still see what you’re saying but I still don’t think it’s 100% accurate. The fact that the TV guy got time with Ray shows that if they know you they’ll probably talk to you. Whereas if you are covering them once on the road it’s harder to guarantee an interview without going through PR. I bet teams are completely different on the road where they don’t know the reporters vs. at home. It’s cool that the Celtics are so locked in and it’s cool that you are showing them in a positive light for that. I’m just saying that from what I’ve read as a Boston fan of many years these guys actually do talk before the games (even during the playoffs).

  • so fresh n so clean Posted: Nov.24 at 4:17 pm
    Great read, Holly. I think a lot of journalists would write negatively about this experience, but your apprectiation of the game allowed you to look past that and put a positive spin on it. I’m not a huge Celtics fan and may not agree with everything KG does on the court, but you his intensity can be compared to VERY few in professional sports.

  • Co Co Posted: Nov.24 at 4:27 pm
    Ben gets me.

  • Moose Posted: Nov.24 at 5:11 pm
    Well, the coach obviously doesn’t follow the routines. Nightly, right before the game CSNNE interviews Doc to see what’s on his mind, and it is brief, about five to ten minutes, but it’s talking nonetheless. And Holly, you say that it’s all fun and joking in the locker room after the game. But we WON that night. I’d be afraid as hell to approach Garnett after a loss. Scared as hell. And Marcel, must’ve been crazy. But I’m still jealous that you have the opportunity to just walk up to Kevin Garnett and ask him if you can talk to him. I’ve never met an NBA player or anything, and being a young’n, it just seems unreal to me.

  • H to the Izzo Posted: Nov.24 at 5:14 pm
    The difference between intense and assh*le?Winning.If KG was with the OK Thunder today,I don’t think his pre game ritual would be as revered,or even accepted.Of course the flipside to this is to say that a player should be able to do whatever the hell he wants to prepare for a game(Imagine Wilt’s pre game ritual-I assume some ’sexy-ass nekkid ladies’ had a part to play).Afterall his job is to play basketball,not necessarily to cater to the media’s every whim,although media interaction is a pretty important subsidiary of being a pro athlete and is often the difference between being lionized or seen as a difficult assh*le.But,as has been pointed out,is a simple ‘I’ll speak after the game’ too much?To me,the whole silence thing smacks of someone trying to create a persona for themselves,and it’ll work–as long as they keep winning.
    This piece was excellent,as always.

  • Holly MacKenzie Posted: Nov.24 at 5:21 pm
    Thanks, Izzo. The thing is, KG has been intense since he came into this league. I could would have to refuse to believe that he is trying to create a persona. Moose, I never meant to imply that Doc does not talk. He talked with us in the hallway pregame and he was great. He was very funny, at ease and comfortable, just as any coach would be when he doesn’t have to worry about keeping his guys focused. They certainly make his job easier. And also, any locker room is somber after a bad loss. That being said, this C’s was pretty great in terms of being open and available, postgame.

  • Moose Posted: Nov.24 at 5:24 pm
    Holly, did you run into the P.I.A.B. people pre- or postgame? And wow, can you get me in the locker room? :)

  • John D Posted: Nov.24 at 5:26 pm
    ^ I think a lot of people don’t understand that about KG. It’s really not a front at all. He’s always been this way.

  • H to the Izzo Posted: Nov.24 at 5:29 pm
    Holly:I don’t think that there is anything particularly wrong with a player creating a persona for themselves,in my opinion most players do–especially the more media savvy ones.If KG has deliberately created a persona for himself,it has most definitely worked.But,be nice to Mutoni is all I’m saying.

  • James Borbath AkA The Dino Blogger Posted: Nov.24 at 6:35 pm
    Nice read Holly. I am not a K.G fan by any means. But it was a cool story. If no one talks why even bother it seems. But it is what it is at the end of the day athletes main job is to win games and how they deal with media is not the important thing from a stand point of winning and losing. People are all different and have different approaches.

  • GiGi Posted: Nov.24 at 7:02 pm
    Nice peice Holly. Love KG. Not many like him, that’s for sure.

  • Michael Tillery Posted: Nov.24 at 7:25 pm
    Ben that’s a total hypothetical. It’s our job to know. When I walk in I immediately find the PR guy and ask who speaks pregame and I’ve found it saves a lot of trouble. The other side of the coin are the writers clamoring mentally to find the one negative in a 30 point blowout…the writer who digs in your side when your uncle is on his death bed…or you are having problems with your wife…or your kids miss you. These types of things lead to pregame rituals because their job is to win above all. Athletic talent is not cultivated through fan and media reaction. When they get paid for it, it’s somewhat of a different story but if I won a championship (the first ever personally and also first since the 80’s for the C’s) doing something cause specific, why change?

  • Z Posted: Nov.24 at 7:31 pm
    Much ado about nothing. KG has been like that since he came to the league. Writers sometimes don’t understand how important it is for players to have a set routine. They hate surprises. I once read stuf about Ray that was borderline psychotic. Always sitting in the same seat on the plane, etc. That’s what they feel they need in order to perform. Cool. If KG doesn’t want to talk to anyone pregame… can he live? As Holly said, he’s always up for a great quote postgame so it’s not like he’s not giving something to the media.

  • Mendel Posted: Nov.24 at 8:09 pm
    this was so freakin gay, holly you can quit riding kg’s jock when jock, its ok

  • Young Chris MP3 Posted: Nov.24 at 8:10 pm
    The whole point Holly is making is that they are focused on the game and don’t want to be distracted before they go out and play. I’m sure any rapper, rock star, or other performer who needs to be in their own little zone before they perform is the same way. When you are at work and doing your job and have to do it the right way, do you want to be distracted? I didn’t think so… Co Co, you need to let this one go.

  • Holly MacKenzie Posted: Nov.24 at 8:17 pm
    Thanks, Mendel. I will definitely keep in mind that I shouldn’t respect and appreciate one of the best players in this league. I will also remember that people don’t want to hear about the craziest locker room setting I’ve ever stepped foot into.
    Young Chris, thanks for getting where I was going with this. The focus is something to be admired. I wish I knew my team(s), had that.

  • Darksaber Posted: Nov.24 at 8:28 pm
    Wow, success IS a bi*tch at times huh? Before KG hit the east coast (while being intense ALL his previous seasons in the Nba), it would have been difficult to find a handfull of hoops fans out there who didn’t love the guy for his traits, and wish a ring or 2 on his long fingers. Now KG is slowly but surely getting the Slamonline patented, Nowitzki-Pierce-Shaq-Wade treatment: people getting on his case cause he’s intense or cause he heckled Calderon, or the C’s are arrogant? Really? Can we just ask guys who were in the locker room for interviews with MJ how THAT felt? Come on people, KG is a godsend for Basketball.

  • Darksaber Posted: Nov.24 at 8:30 pm
    and Miss MacKenzie? Puhlease spill the beans on the “crazier locker room settings you’ve stepped foot into”. Doesn’t have to be the craZIEST, give us the top 2-8, or so :-)

  • Boing Dynasty Posted: Nov.24 at 8:57 pm
    Catch up Darksaber, you just read it.

  • Z Posted: Nov.24 at 9:33 pm
    Leo Rautins mentionned this on the Raptors broadcast. When KG was as intense as ever with the Wolves, nobody cared. Some said that it was even admirable. Now that he’s winning, it seems to rub people the wrong way. This is the same KG that was in Minny, our perception has changed.

  • Young Chris MP3 Posted: Nov.24 at 9:39 pm
    It’s lonely at the top, or so they say.

  • K-k-k-kobe Posted: Nov.24 at 10:29 pm
    To anyone claiming that an “I don’t talk pregame” comment isn’t too much to ask, imagine how many times your average player would get asked that per media session. Good luck trying to focus and prepare in between repeating yourself 50 times to every random person wanting a soundbite.

  • Dre Baldwin Posted: Nov.25 at 4:45 am
    Excellent writing! this really gives me a good sense of how Bostin operates, and from what i see on ESPN.com, it all makes a lot more sense now.. nice work Holly!

  • Michael Tillery Posted: Nov.25 at 12:06 pm
    Just so you all know Holly is speaking fact, this is what I wrote last year after the C’s won their 50th: “Pre-game, everyone else was focused almost to the point of paranoid military tension. After Boston disposed of Philly, things loosened up a bit…” You just gotta be there and I thought Holly’s depiction of the Celtic locker room happenings was perfect. http://slamonline.com/online/nba/2008/03/50-wins-aint-shhhhh/

  • Buzzer Beaters | Hoops Addict Posted: Dec.13 at 10:27 am
    [...] * One of my favourite aspects of having media credentials the past few seasons has been witnessing firsthand the Celtics locker room. Honestly, if walking through that locker room doesn’t give you goose bumps then you’re not a basketball fan. A couple weeks ago Holly MacKenzie summarized the mood in the Celtics locker room to perfection. [...]

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