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Friday, November 28th, 2008 at 2:15 pm  |  88 responses

Knicks Suspend Stephon Marbury

by Marcel Mutoni

Funny, how do you suspend someone who already DOESN’T play? Eh, whatever, it’s the Knicks.

Heeeere’s, Donnie:

“A player’s central obligation is to provide his professional services when called upon,” team president Donnie Walsh said in a statement.

“Because he refused the coach’s request to play in the team’s last game, we had no choice but to impose disciplinary action.”

Marbury, who insists that he never refused to suit up, will “serve” the suspension tomorrow night, and lose out on about $400K in salary.

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  • http://thesportsdiaryonline.blogspot.com Roy

    First! :D

  • Chris A.

    The Knicks organization is just too caught up in basketball. They need to get caught up in life.

  • starbury&stevey

    hahaha…whatever,its the Knicks…Marcel,so right and cold..!deuxieme…

  • Mike

    make him stand in the corner.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    F*ck the knicks this year man they’re testing my ability to root for them at all costs.

  • http://fjsdklf.com Jukai

    It takes a LOT for me to feel bad for Stephon Marbury. Thanks a LOT, Knicks organization.

  • Chris

    Free Steph!!!!

  • Ken

    Honestly, if Steph is getting paid by the Knicks, then he is obliged to play. It’s as simple as that. If Steph doesn’t play when asked to, then he shouldn’t get paid.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    I swear Zeke is still secretly running this team.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I disagree Ken. I understand the point because people keep saying it. But you don’t treat someone the way the knicks have been treating, anyone else would have quit the job but he can’t quit and they won’t trade him.

  • http://slamonline.com Josh D

    Why don’t they just buy him out? Not like they don’t have the money!

  • Static

    If Donnie wanted to really punish him, he’d just force Steph to play…seeing his dislike of coach, teammates, and organization period I think it would piss him off to no end actually having to cooperate with them

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    C’mon y’all… just see it from the player’s POV for a second. The coach openly said that you were not going to play for him under any circumstances (I’m not buying the whole I-respect-him-too-much-to-play-him-15-a-game BS). Now things change, they dumped bodies and they remembered his name. Whatever.

  • http://chodrawings.blogspot.com/2008/01/pen-and-ink-portraits-nba-basketball.html M Cho

    Lol at B.Long at 2:35pm.

    The thing the Marbury supporters forget that this isn’t an equal relationship between Marbury and the Knicks. It isn’t like they’re entitled to the same treatment both ways. Its an employee/employeer relationship. It isn’t a girlfriend/boyfriend arrangement, like someone stated in a previous post’s comments; its a ho/pimp thing. And a pimp slap is long overdue.

  • Theo Papaloukas

    One of the reasons i love sports is because they give us the opportunity to “enjoy-get to know” the characters of guys like Starbury,Artest,Coleman,Iverson,Tyson,etc that if not for moneymaking godgiven athletic talent they would be propably didn’t make it till the age of 20….

  • http://hoops4life.com overtime

    I’m agreeing with Bryan, i side with Starbury on this. Knicks have no honour

  • Theo Papaloukas

    at the same time it is funny how the biggest jokes of players for the past decade(A.I. Starbury) end up having simmilar kind of problems (how strange!!!). Both of them were the hidden poster guys whenever a sportswriter made a comment on guys interested more on their stats than team success in the last decade….

  • Theo Papaloukas

    and ,i hate to admit it, but my favorite magazine didn’t made the situation for them better either by pampering them almost till the end while we had clear signs of their catastrofic ways day one….at the same time i used to be happy 10 years ago just by seeing the cartoon on the cover so i assume a big part of the responsibility…

  • Ken

    Bryan: “…he can’t quit.” Yes he can. He just wants to get paid, so he doesn’t. And saying that the Knicks won’t trade him makes it sound like they could trade him if they wanted to, but that’s not true either. If Steph would agree to be bought out for less than the max, then he wouldn’t be in this position. I still think that if he’s a paid employee, then he should have to do his job.

  • Jess

    this is getting ridiculous….

  • Theo Papaloukas

    i wouldn’t be surprised if a prudent genious like Stern suspended both of them cause their “inteligence” is severely damaging the image of the league but propably he would face serious problem with the players union…

  • Theo Papaloukas

    the good think is that we are two years away (maximum) to getting over with this decade-long sad joke… and to think that there are still kids that think of A.I. as one of the top-100 players of all time…

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    I hear they’re thinking about converting Rucker Park into a Rec League football field considering the Knicks are singlehandedly killing the basketball culture in New York. Go Jets!

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    @Z: I’m seeing it from the player’s POV… and I’m seeing 20 million reasons why he should shut up and play.

  • Theo Papaloukas

    @what…:what?

  • http://thesportsdiaryonline.blogspot.com Roy

    free Starbury…

  • http://LATESTCRY.WORDPRESS.COM akimana

    Man… This aint right. I hate depend Steph but like someone above said. Coach said there was no role on him for this team. dude wanted to play! He came in healthy and in shape but you dont play him. He even said he was cool with not starting but you refuse to play him. Now you need him? Nah F@ck you Dantoni, Free Steph!!

  • BxBaller

    FREE STEPH ALREADY!!!!!!

  • Diogo

    The Knicks are so f*cked up they are making Steph look like a victim.

  • http://www.myspace.com/tyler_tpott T-pott

    Make him sell Quentin Richardson’s shoes for 15 bucks. And if he makes a profit let him play.

  • http://nbaukfan.blogspot.com/ mat smith

    idiot

  • JoeMama

    It was the right thing to do man, cmon if hes not gna play then bam you lose one game’s pay, but stefz gotta be smarter about, at least fake an injury but then again thats fkd up..Best thing to do is get traded to the MIAMI HEAT haha they could use a good PG and PatRiley would whip Stephon Marbury right up!

  • Exile

    Good way to make back your money…. Keep Suspending him.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    He can’t quit actually ken. I’m looking at it from a employee employer point of view. If your boss told you there wasn’t any room and he didn’t want you around and then one of your co workers quit or got sick and took a leave and then the same boss was like hey come on back I was just kidding you’d tell him to f*ck himself. And if you were contracted to your position he would still be required to pay you. Don’t act like the amount of money matters either , the guy is a person if you don’t want him working for your commpany then cut your losses and release him so he can persue other endeavors. The knicks chose not to do that and he has every right to hold on them.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    the knicks are 100% wrong in this situation, especially d’antoni. they said he wasnt in their plans, dont come to practice, stay away from the team. now, coach supposedly OFFERED him some minutes, way before the game. its not like coach told him to get in the game and he didnt. the knicks suspending him is complete garbage.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Just get rid of the loser already, dammit Donnie!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Seriously, Marbury is a good enough player to be getting some playing time in the league. He does not deserve to be inactive anywhere else but in New York, so just ship his @ss up to Boston (word to The Dropkick Murphys). We do not need his heavy @ss contract and we do not need his smog-like presence in New York.

  • rikson

    Didnt the Knicks try to buy him out for little under max? If so, he is just an lazy… Marbury should play and Dantoni should coach – instead marbury is trying to teach us some weird lesson. Im waitin for mike to put on his sneakers…

  • pennydunk_1

    @Theo Papaloukas
    AI is top 50, st least. Jordan had attitude issues too,Vegas anyone??

  • doyouwantmore

    It’s not about who will blink first, as Steph and the Knickerbockers both seem to think. It’s about who is willing to quit being an arse hole first. NY is paying Stephon Marbury mult-millions of dollars. He took the money and is therefore obligated to do what they ask. If they decide they’d like to pay him to sit, he should sit, to play, he should play, to clean the washrooms, to start mopping. To take their money because he’s contractually owed it, but then refuse to be employed in whatever manner his employers see fit is straight foolishness.

    Stephon was just given the greatest opportunity (like he’s been given his whole life) and pissed on it like a spoiled child. A player with character would just play when asked to. If he’d taken the opportunity and exercised some higher principles he’d be on the court, playing basketball for the team that’s paying him. That’s all that should matter. He took the millions of dollars, he should act like a well-paid employee.

  • HBooyah

    Ok but did you read the bit about D’Antoni not even letting Steph know he wasn’t in the plans for the season before he told the entire team? Steph says there wasn’t even a jersey in the locker room for him for the night he said no to . . . seems like a “he said / he said” thing going on here, and they’re all coming out like huge jerks. Buy him OUT. Lebron is never going to sign with a team that has such controversy with their best player . . . furthermore, Lebron is never going to sign with a team that shouts: “Chris Duhon is our starting pg!” Pathetic.

  • I am the walrus

    Yeah, why would LeBron sing with a team thats got no stars. They traded Randolph and Crawford, Eddy Curry is plabnning on eating Nate Robinsoon and Marbury won’t play. LeBron is better think twice before singing with the Knicks!

  • riggs

    f*ck steph.

  • http://www.nba.com iLL wiLL

    D Bag

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ HBooyah: LMFAO you think Steph is the best player on the Knicks? Are you f*cking ret@rded? Wait, don’t answer that, because you just might be. And as for your ignorant @ss, Chris Duhon works out much better for the D’Antoni offense than Marbury would. For one, Duhon’s an actual POINT GUARD who PASSES. Ever heard of it? I guess not, judging by the stupidity you showed in that last comment. Pathetic.

  • mmarra

    Marbury is a selfish individual. If your team needs you you play. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. SINCE HE CAME HERE TO NY HE AS ONLY BEEN A CANCER. I AM A BROOKLYN NATIVE AND I AM BEEN UTTERLY DISSAPOINTED SINCE HE ARRIVED. HE COULD NOT GET ALONG WITH LARRY BROWN. HE COULD NOT GET ALONG WITH HIS ORIGINAL DISCIPLE ISIAH THOMAS AND NOW HE HAS MESSED UP A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER COACH. IF MARBURY LOVES NY SO MUCH HE WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANY PLAYING TIME. WITH CRAWFORD AND RANDOLPH GONE HE COULD BE FLOURISHING OR AT LEAST SHOWING HIS WORTH IF HE HAS ANY. REMEMBER EVERY TEAM HE WAS ON ONLY SUFFERED AND ONCE HE WAS TRADED THEY DID TREMENDOUSLY BETTER. IE NETS GETTING JASON KID AND ALSO AFTER HE LEFT PHOENIX. WHERE IS THE NEED TO KEEP SOMEONE SO SELFISH. HE CAME INTO THIS LEAGUE AND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A POINT GUARD TRUTH IS HE NEVER PLAYED ONE WHEN THE T-WOLVES GOT GARNET HE WANTED TO LEAVE BECAUSE HE DID NOT GET TO SCORE AS MUCH. HE STARTED OFF DOING WELL AND COULD HAVE STAYED WITH GARNET TO GET A CHAMPIONSHIP BUT MESSED THAT UP. EVER SINCE HE HAS ONLY BEEN A CANCER TO EVERY TEAM HE WAS ON. ITS LIKE KARMA. NOW HE IS IN NY WITH THE SECOND HIGHEST CONTRACT IN THE NBA LET HIM EARN HIS TIME. I UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT HE WAS NOT UTILIZED BUT WHEN BEING CALLED UPON DUE TO INJURIES HE SHOULD BE WILLING TO STEP IN MAYBE HE COULD PROVE HIS WORTH FOR ANOTHER TEAM GIVING HIM SOME TRADE VALUE. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED I WOULD NOT BLAME MANAGMENT FOR THIS I ONLY BLAME STARBURY. IT IS A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS COME HOME AND BE A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT. HE HAS DONE NO GOOD HERE AND THE ONE CHANCE HE GETS TO LOOK GOOD HE DOES NOT COME THROUGH. HE WANTS TO COME OFF LIKE A VICTIM BUT WHEN HIS NUMBER IS CALLED HE ACTS LIKE A SPITEFUL LITTLE B#TCH. IT IS TRUTHFULLY A DISAPPOINTMENT THAT THE TALENT FROM BK THAT USED TO LIGHT UP THE GYM IN EVERY BOROUGH IN THIS STATE HAS TO ACT LIKE HE NEVER LEFT HIGH SCHOOL. TRUTH IS HE SHOULD HAVE STAYED AT GEORGIA TECH MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE HELPED HIM MATURE AND LEARN HOW TO PLAY A TEAM GAME. SEEMS LIKE IF HE DOES NOT HAVE A STARRING ROLE HE JUST DOESN’T WANT TO PLAY. AFTER ALL IF THEY LET HIM IN THE OFFENSE IMMEDIATELY HE AND THEY DID NOT GIVE HIM MAJOR MINUTES HE WOULD HAVE JUST HARPED TO THE MEDIA HOW HE WANTED A GREATER or A DIFFERENT ROLE. HE PROCLAIMED TO BE THE BEST PG IN NY AND WELL THAT SUCKED. HE WANTED LARRY TO MOVE HIM TO SHOOTING GUARD SAYING HE WANTED TO PLAY LIKE IVERSON– HOWEVER HE IS NO WAY NEAR THE TALENT LEVEL. (I DID NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH THIS ATTITUDE BUT HEY I WAS WRONG AND LARRY SAID IT HIMSELF ALLEN IS A GREAT TALENT) IMAGINE STEPH THOUGHT HE COULD PLAY LIKE HIM. THE ONLY TIME STEPH WILL LOOK THAT GOOD WAS IF HE WAS PLAYING ON A TEAM WITH A BUNCH OF SCRUBS SO HE WOULD HAVE TO SHOOT EVERYTIME AND EVEN AFTER THAT HAPPENED THE TEAM WOULD STILL SMELL WORSE THAN SOME WASTE MANAGEMENT FACILITY OUT IN JERSEY. WELL HE MADE LARRY BROWN LOOK BAD ON TOP OF THAT HE EVEN FLED THE TEAM WHEN ISIAH TRIED TO MOVE HIS MINUTES DOWN. AND NOW WITH D’ANTONI HE JUST SAYS NO TO PLAYING. STEPHON NEEDS TO LEARN TO BE A TEAM PLAYER. HE IS GETTING OLDER AND OLDER AND IS NO STARBURY AND IF SO IT WOULD ONLY BE AT SOME PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE –WHERE PLAYGROUND MOVES MAKE YOU LOOK GOOD BUT NOT GET PAID. STEPHON GROW THE HELL UP AND BE A MAN. YOUR GETTING PAID MILLIONS FOR NOTHING WHILE I BUST MY BUT TO MAKE A LIVING AND GO TO GRAD SCHOOL. YOUR A COMPLETE SELFISH DUMB-ASS AND MAKE ALL OF YOUR FANS FEEL REALLY FOOLISH FOR EVERY LOVING YOU. I THINK ITS TIME YOU TURN SOME OF THE FROWNS UPSIDE DOWN AND DO SOMETHING UNSELFISH FOR ONCE IN A LIFE. HE IS GETTING PAID LIKE 190,000 PER GAME MEANWHILE THERE IS PROBABLY SOME HOMELESS MAN LIVING ON THE STREET OUT IN THE NY COLD WHO IS MORE SELFLESS THEN HE IS. HE IS AN ABSOLUTE DISAPPOINTMENT TO ANY NY’er. WOW TALK ABOUT NOT LIVING UP TO THE HYPE. HE SHOULD PLAY AND PLAY AS HARD AS HE CAN. HE SHOULD NOT EXPRESS NOT WANTING TO PLAY AND SHOULD JUST SHUT UP AND PUT UP. HE SHOULD MAKE HIS FANS PROUD BEFORE HE LOSES WHATEVER HE HAS LEFT.

  • Dark

    According to the reports I was reading during the Knicks training camp, most writers said it was pretty obvious who the best player on the team was. What Steph did to the team last year was unforgivable, but he came into camp with the right attitude, and even willing to back up Duhon (a guy who was backing up Kirk Hinrich!). First, Steph’s told he’s completely out of the team’s plans (and also that he’s not allowed to even run with his HS team), and then magically when Crawford gets traded and Robinson gets hurt, he’s back in the mix? This whole mess is on the NY coaches and management, in my book.

  • young truth

    First I have to address the RETARD that had the audacity to say STARBURY aka Coney Islands finest was not the best talent on the team. As a matter of fact he is the best talent the Knicks have seen since Ewing. Duhon is garbage with large side of doo doo. Second I have to address this putz mmarra and anyone else that feels like the Star child is this spoiled selfish person. What you call a spoiled athlete I see a person that hates losing a person that was raised and taught that winning is everything even if you have to be selfish with the ball, but of course broke losers like yourself don’t understand that. Growing up in a losing enviroment you were probably taught that losing is acceptable and all of this other character bs, f#%* that in the end you have to look after yourself. And to anyone who thinks steph is over rated name your favorite player and chances are he tore them a new asshole while dropping 25 and 9. And I almost forgot he is making over 20 mil a year he can buy your Life. Starbury keep doing your thing homie keep cashing checks. Holla, YT

  • LAN

    marbury should have just taken the 400k pay cut on his buy out and signed with another team

  • LAN

    ‘HE IS GETTING PAID LIKE 190,000 PER GAME’ lol mmara more like 22 mill for 0 games……

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    El Oh El

  • BETCATS

    damm i forgot to delete my link

  • nastierthanyou

    Welcome to the New Age of basketball. The decisions we all make in life will define us. Some we’ll enjoy while others we’ll regret. The knicks as an organization will outlive Marbury. Meanwhile an athletes career will not span 2 decades. Draw it up any way you like whether you agree with steph or the organization, my kids will still be getting starbury gear for xmas. Nah but fo reel Steph will regret this whole ordeal. he loves New york & was excited to return now he’s beggin to leave. GOTTA HURT.

  • ClydeSays

    It’s funny that even seemingly sane people like Walsh & D’Antoni get caught up in the Knicks vortex and screw everything up.

    What harm would there be letting Steph play a role off the bench at the start of the season? If he played well, great. If he didn’t, then D’Antoni had a legit reason to bench him.

    If they had no intention to play him, then just pay his salary and keep him at home.

    A 21 million dollar expiring contract would be gold in the hands of most teams. Since the Knicks haven’t had to operate with any kind of cap-sanity in the past decade, they’ve managed to screw even that up.

  • http://www.peterrobertcasey.com Peter Robert Casey

    They can’t agree on anything.

  • http://thesportsdiaryonline.blogspot.com Roy

    Co-sign @ Peter Robert Casey

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Theo Paps
    I’m trying to figure out why you have such disdain for random men you’ll never meet and who don’t have anything to do with your life. Seriously, the disdain you showed in several comments for certain players, and the glee you seemed to have in informing us that they probably wouldn’t have lived past 20 if it wasn’t for basketball is just disturbing.
    That goes well beyond having a problem with somebody’s game or how they carry themselves on and off the court. That’s evidence of a deeper issue.
    And, if you think all it takes to make it to the NBA, or NFL or any professional league is god-given talent then you don’t know know much about sports or life.
    You internet dudes are real funny.

  • doyouwantmore

    Y’all are still arguing over things that are irrelevant. Stephon is an employee of a company.

    It’s just me, but whatever my boss decides I’m supposed to do, I do. Because they pay me. I do what’s required. I even do things that are counter-productive or don’t make sense because my boss asks it of me and sometimes it sucks in the short run. But I always come out on top because I respect my employer, right or wrong.

    Unlike Steph.

  • http://n/a 007

    Why we should and shouldn’t take comments seriously.
    Enough. All the time. )

  • Theo Papaloukas

    @Allenp..:i talked about the importance of godgiven talent cause i know first hand the advantages it gives you…i used to be a better player than guys that knew the game much better than me(and were smarter) just because i had a really good vertical and explosiveness….i mean,if you don’t get the importance of exceptional athletic ability in a game like basketball i don’t think i can really help you…at the same time my opinions on A.I. and Steph are the regular ones among serious European bball players that follow the NBA.I have talked with players that have represented their countries(and some got medals along the way) in the Olympics and worldchampionships and many of them don’t even consider those guys capable of playing serious bball (although they find them very entertaining and have their shirts). Basically i have this “disdain” you said cause i am an NBA fun and hate it when friends(that make money playing bball) tell me “the NBA is great for dunks ,highlights and stuff but if you want to see real bball you got to follow the Euroleague”… For his negative impact on american bball alone, A.I is one of the worst players of all time…(of course you could say the same based on the trophies he won wherever he played in the last 15 years….it must be the first time in the history of the game that a player that has won NOTHING, NOWHERE is consider an all time great and compared with real legends like Ginobili, Isaia Thomas etc..)

  • doyouwantmore

    I don’t want to butt in uninvited but I always kind of thought it was wack that dudes who haven’t won championships are considered equal to those who have. I mean I guess what it comes down to is would you rather be a rich and famous legend or a winner? Especially if you couldn’t be both – if you had to choose?

  • doyouwantmore

    I don’t want to butt in uninvited but I always kind of thought it was wack that dudes who haven’t won championships are considered equal to those who have. I mean I guess what it comes down to is would you rather be a rich and famous legend or a winner? Especially if you couldn’t be both – if you had to choose?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    i’m still a lover of the knicsk and stephon….this is like young and the restless
    i love the show they put on with Gstate last night….that was NBA

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    being famous will get you free coffee….as ben folds sung.

  • 王骁男

    KNICKS has nothing to do but waiting until 2010……..

  • andy

    Stephon your in trouble, either go to the Warriors or GET OUT OF HERE

  • jay

    first off i am not a marbury fan…he ruined every team he has been on and does not make anyone better. that being said, i think banishing steph should have been done in game 1..if you do not have him in your plans and dont plan on playing him..this should have been taken care of in the off-season…i think starbury deserves what he gets but no player should be in this position. if they dont want him….work out a buyout and both sides compromise and move on!

  • chintao

    Co-sign Marcel. Can’t Donnie think up of a more creative punishment for a guy who already doesn’t play?

  • chintao

    @ doyouwantmore ==> I have no respect for my employer. The system is a zero-sum game. Either you game your boss, or he games you. Put The Roots on pause for a minute and take a listen to “Hell Yeah” by dead prez.

  • Gaber

    @Papaloukas

    John Stocktos, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing,…
    they won like ZERO championships. They should not be top players in history.
    I guess Robert Horry is one of the best players in the history of the b-ball.

  • Gaz

    mmmm I agree The Rockets + Sydney + Hursty = Crap.
    Oh and BETCATS is rather homosexual.

  • Theo Papaloukas

    @Gaber….:all of them won the second most important(after the WORLD’S) bball championship in the world:the Olympics.At the same time all of them lost to the greatest player of all time at the peak of his game. Ewing also won the NCAA if i remember correct…The cartoon is the only one who NEVER won ANYTHING – ANYWERE!!! To compare him to true legends that led their teams near the top year after year just shows your understanding of the game (or your age…).And i would take Robert Horry in his prime on my team over the cartoon ANYDAY…Once again: A.I &Steph are two of the worst players of all time(they ain’t worse than Benoit Benjamin but at the same time Benoit’s influence on this game was near zero).

  • FLUD

    Theo, you’re a funny guy. As in screwy… “Once again: A.I &Steph are two of the worst players of all time”…. that is just a crazy statement.

  • zee jay

    just trade him bak 2 th suns
    he ll be way better with STAT Nash n
    now thy also got shaq
    knicks=suck at bball
    suns=1 of th best teams in the nba

  • zee jay

    trade em 4 barbosa and hill make starbury
    play shoting guard

  • grave dohl

    Theo P., you are money man, who cares what they say. Americans think they know everything bout basketball.
    Guess what, it’s still a 5-on-5 game. Even MJ knew that, though he was a soloist as much as anyone. Guys like Malone and Stock and Chuck were teamplayers in the end. AI and Steph might have some personal highlights, but what else?! We all love their playground style of ball, but really, “sacrifice for the team” is not whithin their system. They can’t make others around them better and so, lack greatness.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Grave Dohl
    You never watched Barkely play. Clearly, you never watched him play because you would know he was just as much of a gunner as any other superstar. And Malone was the same way.
    Paps
    You never addressed why it brought you such pleasure to point out that AI, Marbury and several others would be dead if it wasn’t for basketball.
    Why was that even a part of this discussion? You revealed something about yourself with that comment, I’m glad I was able to read it.

  • Theo Papaloukas

    @Allenp….: i guess i’m on your “black”(!!!) list now,e..??

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    You are what your record says you are.

  • http://pizzaburekblogspot.com SchW

    come on theo… u with all the smart ass comments… Cuz for a fact i know if u really would be Papaloukas you would not write on this website!!!! And to all of y´all… you remember the 10th anniversary issue of the Slam… when they pointed out how Starbury screwed everything up when he left the Wolves… man those were the days… I´m just glad that KG got one and i wish the same thing for M;arbury. Even if it is something like finley:))) one

  • Theo Papaloukas

    @SchW….:if i was Theo i would spend my time trying to figure out why i couldn’t get by Yasikevicious’ defence(!!!) last Sunday….

  • doyouwantmore

    Chintao – I kind of outgrew Dead Prez a while ago, but they’re still dope.

    If I was in a situation with an unfair employer or I needed to do things different to feed my kids it would be a different story.

    But I entered into a contract that pays me really well to do something I love. Getting paid really well to do something you love is respect. And any employee in a situation like that would do well to respect the employer who put them in it. Even if it means showing some humility.

    No one is pimping Stephon. Stephon is a symbol of how compromise of character and poor personal decisions can throw off all kinds of areas of a person’s life.

    You know a tree by it’s fruit. NO one is pimping Stephon man. He’s gotten everything he REALLY wanted. If he’d wanted to be a champion, a winner, respected, a role-model, or all those things he WOULD be. He’s too talented not to. What he IS is a dude that got what he was going for – a big payday that he didn’t truly earn.

    That’s what the pro-Starbury cats need to admit to themselves. That he isn’t now, and hasn’t yet, EARNED that dough. His talent got it for him but he hasn’t shown any evidence of being worth that much money to the business of the NBA. There are higher principles than just getting paid.

    Maybe you respect the kind of person that gets the dough by any means, and that’s cool. Personally, I respect character and integrity because a paycheck doesn’t help your game one bit.

  • chintao

    ^ Yo, man. EVERY employer is unfair. That is the nature of the system. If the employer isn’t unfair, he doesn’t make any more than the employee. Show me an example of that type of relationship? Whatever you say, it sure isn’t taking the form of the New York Knicks. Also, it doesn’t sound like you “outgrew” the dp’z. It sounds more like you sold out to The Man. It’s funny that, just because Steph makes doe, you think he isn’t being pimped. It’s all relative. Until Steph goes from being merely rich to being wealthy, he’s a ho’, who gets pimped. Your mention of the supposedly sacred nature of contract is ironic. The Knicks owe Steph money, but they want him to take a paycut, so it will be easier to ship him to another team (which likely would not be located in his beloved hometown). You also say that Steph is not earning is cash. That’s a cop-out. The owners thought he was worth the money. They signed him up. Now they feel it didn’t work out, and they want to break the contract to go in a different direction. Like it or not, the owners bear the risk of being entreprenuers, and no matter how much loot Steph makes, Dolan will make EVEN MORE. Who’s really not living up to his end of the bargain here? If the Knicks want to change plans, that’s not Marbury’s fault. Dude got into the best shape of his life. He was ready to play, and on some petty B.S, D’Antoni blacklists him before the season even begins. Now D’Antoni has painted himself into a corner and is trying to blame Stephon. Coach D needs to step-up and take some responsibility, if he wants to get this thing resolved before the end of the year. Instead, he is hoping that the media will get tired of the story. What a pu$$y he is. In closing, I respect character and integrity as much as anyone. Steph is doing what he believes is right. F’ the dumb isht, he has the opportunity to serve-up his revenge piping hot. He is more the man for having the nerve to do it, even though the consequences will surely be adverse to his financial interests. Playing would have been the easy way out. What kind integrity would it have taken to say, “Yessa, Massa D’Antoni. I sho’ is grateful that you is allowin’ me to play (myself)”?

  • chintao

    @ doyouwantmore ==> What do you think Questo or Tariq would think of your position on this matter?

  • grave dohl

    @Allenp

    hence the “in the end”, cus that’s when players become smart(er) and realize the egotrip only lasts so long, as Bartowski did.
    They’re ALL gunners when they start out, unless you’re a true PG coming in and that almost never happens. (Just look at D. Rose. Not so much passing the ball now.)
    You tell me that Chuck with the Suns was a straight up gunner?? Philly, yes, cuz he had poop to work with, but that Suns team was a unit man and at least he passed the ball.

  • doyouwantmore

    LOL! ——’Sounds like you sold out to ‘the man’. Great quote Chintao. You’re probably the first person to ever say that. Whatever, man. I see why you are down with Starbury now. All the drama and hip-hop cliches and everything. It’s all good. I hope the best for Steph, honestly I do. I disagree about him being in good shape though, because mentally I do not believe that guy is in good shape. And to answer your last question I think Tariq would tell me to vote for Obama and Questlove would tell me I’m a good drummer. Please stop researching me now.

  • chintao

    ^ I love how you’re trying to skate on this issue by bragging about yourself. Classy. Anyway, to resume the topic at hand, what could Marbury do to convince you that he’s mentally prepared to play? Steph showed-up to optional team runs prior to the beginning of the year. He said he was willing to come off the bench behind that bum, Douche-hon. What else could Marbury do to show that his head was in the right place? In the end, all that faith he put in the clean slate promised by D’Antoni and the Knicks was misplaced. Now he’s chilling on the shelf D’Antoni put him on. Only a crazy person would be like, “Aw, yeah. You did me wrong, but sure, I’ll come off the inactive list and pull your a$$ out of the fire. No problem.” To me, his actions are super-rational. Then again, it’s a crazy world, so maybe being logical is actually crazy.

  • chintao

    Also, I understand why you’re having trouble accepting my point of view on things. If I am probably the first person to see you for who you really are, you might not be ready to look in the mirror.

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