Monday, November 17th, 2008 at 9:02 am  |  81 responses

The Post Up: Dallas, Phoenix Figure It Out

While Detroit takes down those Lakers.

by Holly MacKenzie

Okay, since I’ve got some lengthy game notes coming your way this is going to be a bit shorter than the usual.

First, before we begin. Thoughts and prayers are going out to Leandro Barbosa and his entire family. If you haven’t heard, Leandro lost his mother, Ivete Barbosa, last Thursday night. He flew to Brazil to be with her and wherever he may be in this world at the present moment, my thoughts are with him.

Props to the Detroit Pistons for taking down the Lakers on Friday night. I am a lot of things, but I am a gracious loser… At least, when Allen Iverson is involved.

Beautiful game from the Pistons. Anyone else feel like the arrival of Ivy has entirely re-motivated and re-ignited the fire that has been fading inside of Sheed? Wow. This could end up being really, really, really great for Detroit. Dumars may just end up looking like a complete genius for this one.

The ball movement. How Iverson’s speed can allow him to hop, skip, jump and drive into the paint and then either flip the ball up for two or dish it out to a teammate, makes him very, very dangerous. It’s only been a few games, but I feel like this is a different situation entirely, than the one on Denver and I like it.

L.A. Well, it was just a horrifically awful effort on their part. When Kwame is outplaying your starting big man, you have a problem.

Onto the weekend. Weekend was good. I absolutely loved the Raptors/Heat game yesterday and I was lucky enough to have been able to sit down wth Shaun Livingston and talk with him about his knee. Very thankful I got to talk to him, since he’s been plastered up in SLAM forever.

Hope you guys caught the Milwaukee/Boston game on Saturday night. Milwaukee taking the C’s to overtime without Villanueva and after Andrew Bogut had been ejected. That was a great game. The Celtics prevailed in the extra session, but I was happy to see Ridnour play so well.

ANTHONY MORROW.

Yeah. What a game from this guy. Undrafted rookie. First career start. “Little Steve.” 37 points. 37 points on 15-20 from the floor. This was an incredible performance as the Warriors took down the Clippers. When you have Coach Nelson saying this is one of the most exciting things he’s seen, you know you’ve done something special.

How about the Warriors as a whole? Nelson, Morrow, Buike and Watson. Four undrafted guys who have found a home in the Bay. It feels right to me and I officially claimed those guys as my team this weekend. Stressful moment, but there really is no need to fight it any longer. I will always bleed purple and gold, but this franchise just makes me so proud with their fight each and every night.

Happy 26th birthday to Amare Stoudemire.

Orlando 90 Charlotte 85

In a game that appeared as though the Bobcats would prevail, the Magic snuck away with a 90-85 victory. While Charlotte discovered that the best way to beat the Magic would be to beat Dwight, they did not quote keep him on the bench long enough. In foul trouble the entire game, Howard finished with only 26 minutes before fouling out. Because of his limited minutes, the Magic needed someone to stop up, this time, they had an entire team of players ready to do so. With the Bobcats leading and the game close in the third, the Magic were able to outscore Charlotte 27-18 in the period to take a lead into the fourth and then go away with the victory. Howard finished the game with only 4 points after going scoreless from the floor. Hedo Turkoglu stepped up with 20 points while Mickael Pietrus scored 18 and Rashard Lewis added 17. Gerald Wallace led the Bobcats with 19 points while Adam Morrison and Raymond Felton added 14 points apiece.

Move! Get out the way!Phoenix 104 Detroit 86

After their big games in Golden State and Los Angeles it only made since that the Pistons would have a bad outing. Luckily for the Suns, still shorthanded with Leandro Barbosa and Matt Barnes out of the lineup, they decided to stumble while in Phoenix. After Shaquille O’Neal was ejected with a flagrant-2 foul on Rodney Stuckey, the Phoenix lead was cut to only eight. This did not last for long as the Suns busted open the game by the half and held a fifteen point lead at the half, 61-46. The second half was more of the same for the Suns as the Pistons could not catch up. Amare Stoudemire scored 29 points and grabbed 11 rebounds for Phoenix. Steve Nash had 17 points and 7 assists in his return from his one game suspension and O’Neal had 12 points before his ejection. Richard Hamilton led Detroit with 19 points as Stuckey added 12 from the bench and Rasheed Wallace had 11 points and 9 rebounds in the loss.

San Antonio 90 Sacramento 88

The Spurs needed to win this one and they did, but it was tougher than they may have anticipated. Still, a win is a win and they gladly took it, since things are looking a little bit dim in San Antonio these days. In a battle with the Kings in the fourth quarter, the Spurs looked to their defense to get them out. It did, as they outscored Sacramento 23-16 in the period to escape with the win. Down the stretch it was Tim Duncan for San Antonio, as he tied the game with less than a minute to play and then hit a bank shot to give the Spurs their 90-88 lead. The Kings got the ball back after Duncan had bricked free throws with 2.3 seconds remaining, but Quincy Douby’s three-point attempt ended up as an airball. Duncan led the Spurs with 20 points and 10 rebounds as Michael Finley scored 21 and Roger Mason had 18. John Salmons poured in 31 for the Kings as Beno Udrih added 16.

Dallas 124 New York 114 OT

With New York impressing and the Mavericks not looking so impressive this was an interesting match up as it still appeared that despite the records, Dallas should take this one. They did, but it took them overtime to do it. With Dirk Nowitzki scoring 26 points in the first half and 39 overall, the Knicks still managed to find themselves in this one at the end of regulation as they allowed Dallas to cut a 15-point deficit and come back in the fourth. With the Knicks going scoreless for the final 2:24 seconds of regulation and then continuing to go scoreless from the floor in the extra session, the Mavs closed out the game on a 19-2 run and that was the ballgame. In addition to Nowitzki’s night, Josh Howard added 31 points and 14 rebounds while Dirk also pulled down 15 boards. Jason Terry added 20 points off of the bench for Dallas. Zach Randolph was big in the defeat with 27 points and 18 rebounds while Chris Duhon had 16 points and 12 assists and Quentin Richardson added 17.

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  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Cub
    Why is Melo struggling so much on offense? He’s the focal point, no Iverson to contend with, and he seems lost out there. However, he is hitting the boards harder.
    TAD
    I wasn’t surprised by that loss Sunday. 1. Nobody on the Pistons outside of Kwame wanted any part of defending Shaq. Sheed, despite his rep, does not want to deal with the mental and physical abuse Shaq can still dish out. Shaq knew that and came out hard. Amir Johnson and Maxiell had no hope.
    2. Michael Curry had Iverson guarding Steve Nash. Don’t know what’s up with that. He should have had Iverson guarding Raja and asked Rip to chase Nash around. That allows Iverson to roam for steals and puts a bigger defender on Nash, which he hates. In the old Suns offense it would have hurt Hamilton on offense to have to chase Nash, but with the new slow it down Suns, it wouldn’t have been an issue. I think that if Curry changed up that defensive situation, and Iverson got more touches early then the game would have been closer, particularly after Shaq went out. However, it would have been a tough game no matter what. The Suns have great size and the Pistons do not. Diaw, Amare, Shaq and Lopez are all good quality big men, with three of the four being able to punish players down low when motivated. Particularly when the Suns play Diaw at the three and he gets to post up little guards, he’s a load to handle. He won’t go at players his own size, but against little dudes he morphs into Mr. Aggressive.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Isiah Thomas for GM of the year. Same players, different system. Isiah sucked as a coach, but he wasn’t a slouch when it came to assembling talent.
    Give the man his credit.

  • http://www.myspace.com/2536545 Bryan

    Ill agree with that Allen. Who knew Wilson Chandler would be so good?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Allenp: Not surprised by the loss to the Suns either. I was surprised by the effort. Then again, it was the 4th game in 6 days on the road and the last road game of a road trip is always the one that gets teams regardless of talent. I’ll take a 3-1 road trip without much complaint.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    TAD
    I can’t wait for McDyess to get back so I can see him hitting open jumpers and crashing the boards. I think he is going to enjoy playing with Iverson.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    December 7th cannot get here soon enough.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    Shia, Caputo knew. Or so he has been telling me.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    From the Denver Post:
    Unquestionably, the Allen Iverson experiment produced some scintillating moments for the Nuggets and their fans. But the more coach George Karl watches Chauncey Billups run his offense — and watches Iverson lead the Pistons — it has become clearer that Iverson, well, wasn’t the answer. ‘There are less bad plays, more solid plays,’ Karl said. ‘I think the wasteful, cheap possessions that we used to have 10 to 15 a game, they don’t exist very much anymore.’ What always irked Karl was Iverson’s inability to run the offense like a general. Arguably, Iverson shot too much, and like Karl said, Denver could outscore about half the teams in the NBA. But when it came to beating the elite teams, the Nuggets had too many questions with ‘The Answer’ — about his shot selection, his dedication to defense and his ability/inability to trust his teammates.”

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    George Karl already working his magic. So Mr. Karl, you expected Iverson to be a floor general even though he’s never done that? Ever? And last time I checked, the Nuggets had improved somewhat on defense, but they still have a long ways to go.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    I knew who Morrow was and remembered him as an excellent 3 point shooter.I claim my $10.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    GM of the year? Isiah wasted $35 million of cap space on three players who most likely will never play for the Knicks again.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    Chris Paul should be given coach of the year for his work with David West.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    Melo’s just had some bad jump shooting nights, and actually the team has, as well. They are now just defending late in games, getting stops, and suddenly have the composure to finish games they have no business winning (IE LAST NIGHT)

    Melo is playing defense and most importantly, HITTING THE BOARDS!

    Karl had not expectations, as he wasn’t the one “shopping for the groceries” as Coach Parcells liked to put it. He couldn’t deal with him the way he wanted to, either….

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    Melo’s just had some bad jump shooting nights, and actually the team has, as well. They are now just defending late in games, getting stops, and suddenly have the composure to finish games they have no business winning (IE LAST NIGHT)

    Melo is playing defense and most importantly, HITTING THE BOARDS!

    Karl had not expectations, as he wasn’t the one “shopping for the groceries” as Coach Parcells liked to put it. He couldn’t deal with him the way he wanted to, either….

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Cub, I’ll give Melo credit for hitting the boards. But, he still looks somewhat lost on offense and you must be jesting about him playing defense. That’s just not the case.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Melo, from what I have seen, has turned into Vince Carter 2.5 where he is just shooting jumpers and driving occasionally.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    JOHNNY SALMONS!!!

  • Candice

    Tad do the Pistion’s play the Cav’s next? If so then I think Detroit will bounce back and win. I know the Cav’s are playing good but it seem’s like no matter who play for the Cav’s, it doesn’t matter to AI. AI loves to play against Cleveland, I think he average’s like close to 40 pts against them. It stem’s form his rookie year.

  • Candice

    I don’t know what was the point of Karl throwing AI under the bus like that but wasn’t AC the pg? I like Melo but he’s doing the same thing’s that he was doing when AI was there. Also they started the season playing good offense, it didn’t just start when Chauncey got there.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Yup. Cleveland next. Then Boston again. I expect to learn a lot in these next two games.

  • Candice

    I think they will be okay as long as htey play like they did against the Laker’s. It was a thing of beauty to see Rip and AI run around on offense. I guess Mo Williams is the difference for the Cav’s but I really feel that will bounce back. They should play better against the Celtic’s to me as long as Boston doesn’t get away with thing’s.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    It’s odd, but I’m not sure whether anything matters with the Pistons until the playoffs start. I mean, sure, you can see how they play and stuff, but it’s a given they’ll make the playoffs—the question is whether they’ll be able to beat the Cavs or the Celtics in a seven-game series. The rest is just window dressing.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I agree 100% Russ. Thing is, these games WILL make a little bit of difference since AI and Chauncey are two entirely different entities and Curry is the opposite of Flip on the coaching matters as well. Also, Amir and Kwame are new to the rotation. So yeah, while i’m sure Detroit will make the playoffs, they need to learn their identity.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    With that said, when the playoffs start, it is Finals or bust for the most part with Detroit.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    I don’t think they’ll make the Finals, but that’s just one o’ them gut feelings. In fact, I don’t think they’ll make the conference finals.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Maybe, maybe not. But the move was made with that in mind.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    i think that the pistons are one Power Forward away from being a championship team. He will show up on December the 7th.

  • http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/hollie30 K Holls

    BETCATS is intelligent for that comment.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    you are underestamating me K Holls

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    I am watching UNC/Kentucky (’90) on classic right now and it is just a sea of flat-tops. Mashburn’s is by far the dopest.

  • http://www.freewebs.com/betcats BETCATS

    Monster Mash was a beast of a hornet, i remember when the hornets traded him to the 76ers on the deadline the same year they got C-Webb . That was funny because i knew he was never gonna play agian and Billy King was trying to p!ss iverson off with all his might.

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