November 21, 2008 6:12 pm  |  119 Comments

Walsh Keeps Working: Trades Zach Randolph to Clippers


by Ryne Nelson

As promised, Donnie Walsh is taking matters into his own hands. In the course of four hours, the Knicks shipped three players, in two trades, and received three in return.

The most recent deal, according to the L.A. Times, involves Zach Randolph and Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley of the Clippers.

The reshaping of the Clippers continued with the acquisition of forward Zach Randolph and guard Mardy Collins from the New York Knicks for shooting guard Cuttino Mobley and forward Tim Thomas.

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The Knicks may also have a second round pick, but that’s peanuts. Let’s focus on the backbone of today’s trades.

Walsh dealt the Knicks’ two best players. Plain and simple. Al Harrington can arguably fit well in D’Antoni’s system, but the Knicks are clearly looking to be major players in the 2010 free agency goldmine.

Knicks fans, don’t get excited just yet. The deal is that unless the Knicks get a top free agent—LeBron James, Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh—keeping Zach Randolph’s 20 and 10 might have been the best move.

Still, the Knicks did it right—they received cap relief without trading draft picks or young players. And that’s genius.

Rebuilding starts at the top, and hiring Walsh is delivering. Oh, and David Lee will have playing time again!

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  • Moose Posted: Nov.21 at 6:13 pm
    FIRST

  • Moose Posted: Nov.21 at 6:14 pm
    Wow. Hello, LeBron!

  • Moose Posted: Nov.21 at 6:14 pm
    That sentence was premature. But the Knicks are in it to win it . . . in the future.

  • thesubwayconnection Posted: Nov.21 at 6:18 pm
    Lame. I don’t see how Cat or Thomas is going to help at all (outside of cap room).

  • Young Chris MP3 Posted: Nov.21 at 6:24 pm
    Tim Thomas? Really?

  • Ryne Nelson Posted: Nov.21 at 6:26 pm
    @Subway: I don’t think they will. But as Matt Caputo told me when we first heard news of this deal, Walsh has done more in three weeks than Isiah did in three years. He’s taking the chance!

  • Boing Dynasty Posted: Nov.21 at 6:28 pm
    you all realize they all these contracts come off the books in 2010 right? Donnie Walse isnt trying to win now.

  • J-O Posted: Nov.21 at 6:29 pm
    while isiah went for the now and got killed for it what happens when walsh who is banking on the future doesnt get any key FA

  • TADOne Posted: Nov.21 at 6:31 pm
    WOW…I like Walsh.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 6:38 pm
    I got Be Ups!

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 6:38 pm
    And fake TadOne is waaaaaay stupider than the real one.

  • the piano man Posted: Nov.21 at 6:38 pm
    Walsh, got some balls! This happened much sooner than anyone could anticipate I think. I was surprised that the Knicks were doing well at the beginning. And I’m guessing that made Zach and Jamal that much easier to trade. I guess I’ll be going to MSG to see the other teams play for the next couple of years…

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 6:38 pm
    TIM THOMAS IS BACK IN NEW YORK!

  • Pve84 Posted: Nov.21 at 6:43 pm
    Yes. Walsh has major stones to trade the minor success (albeit short term) that NY has craved for years and finally gotten at the start of this season for the possibility of greater hope in the future. Admirable, Donnie.

  • Bryan Posted: Nov.21 at 6:47 pm
    They didn’t deal Steph so they didn’t trade their best player yet. It all makes sense now they’re keeping the expiring deal on the books so they’re back at zero.

  • Bryan Posted: Nov.21 at 6:49 pm
    This is actually pissing me off.

  • RV Posted: Nov.21 at 6:51 pm
    i hope no one else says they don’t get these trades….CAP ROOM!!

  • B. Long Posted: Nov.21 at 6:56 pm
    First trade today was Thomas-like. This one is much better.

  • davidR Posted: Nov.21 at 7:00 pm
    i dunno man.. that 20-10 is a lot to lose

  • RV Posted: Nov.21 at 7:01 pm
    i dont think the knicks will be that much different though, they can run more with Harrington, they lose some athleticism that crawford had, but they’ll probably keep their current winning %, at least once the new guys get some practice in.

  • TripleDouble Posted: Nov.21 at 7:01 pm
    With this new roster, how much ca$h is guaranteed in 2010? Will they have enough to sign two big free agents?

  • Dma Posted: Nov.21 at 7:04 pm
    Ask Portland how losing that 20-10 worked out for them. Zach Randolph is a cancer. Plain and simple. Mobley, Harrington and Thomas will love D’Antoni’s system. And Galinari is faking his injury. The Knicks are just riding it out for a high draft pick. Heh.

  • RV Posted: Nov.21 at 7:06 pm
    if david less is let loose, he’ll get about 11 boards a game, along with maybe 15-16 pts.. chandler gets more touches and he shoots a better % than crawford and randolph…i think it was a nice job by walsh, he got what he wanted and didn’t turn the team into trash.

  • Bobby F Posted: Nov.21 at 7:09 pm
    damn knicks gonna suck balls now and next year……team actually had a winning record….tired of seeing nuttin but loses

  • RV Posted: Nov.21 at 7:09 pm
    well, the knicks only were down for 35 mil in 2010 after the harrington trade, now with the latest trade…they drop about another 16 mil.

  • blackice87 Posted: Nov.21 at 7:10 pm
    if they do tank the next few seasons, they might end up with some nice draft prospects and a superstar in 2010. That being said i just heard jalen rose say Chris Bosh is more likely to leave toronto than James and Wade leaving their respective cities…..that just pissed me off.

  • RV Posted: Nov.21 at 7:12 pm
    well bosh is from texas, so houston may try to sign him…dallas as well

  • Wongtouski Posted: Nov.21 at 7:24 pm
    Great move by Donnie, they might as well start reserving #23 now.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 7:41 pm
    “Nov.21 at 6:47 pm
    Bryan says:
    They didn’t deal Steph so they didn’t trade their best player yet. It all makes sense now they’re keeping the expiring deal on the books so they’re back at zero.” Marbury is not the Knicks best player. That would go to Jamal Crawlford WHO THEY DID trade. Marbury had the better career, but Crawlford was the alphadog on this Knicks squad. Saying that Marbury is better than Crawlford NOW is like saying Shaq is better than Stoudimire NOW. In their careers neither STAT or Crawlford have accomplished as much as Shaq or Marbury, however, that is history, this is the present. Curently Crawlford>Marbury. Plus, D’Antoni doesnt even like Marbury, thats why Steph is not a Phoneix Sun anymore, and problay wont play at all for the Knicks unless they get desprate.

  • RJ Posted: Nov.21 at 7:45 pm
    who’s the face of the knicks now?

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.21 at 8:01 pm
    The Knicks are now more or less entirely unwatchable. Wonder what would have happened if they just kept Scott Layden’s roster?

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.21 at 8:05 pm
    OK, “unwatchable” is an exaggeration. They still have Nate and Lee and Chandler. But if the goal is to cut salary, will they re-sign any of those guys? These are strange times.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.21 at 8:14 pm
    And bringing Tim Thomas back…just…wow.

  • the baconator Posted: Nov.21 at 8:16 pm
    This is really difficult. As fat and selfish as he is, Z-Bo is still a 20-10 kinda guy who can bang underneath when he puts his mind to it. On the other hand, at the end of games he tends to camp on the perimeter and look for his gawdawful three. Collins sucks, plain and simple. He dribbles higher than a middle-schooler and is easy to steal the ball from. Bringing in another shooting guard is flat-out stupid. They already have guards in Robinson, Roberson, Crawford, Duhon, Chandler (who can play 2-3), and Q-Rich. Tim Thomas might be a forward, but he’s the wrong kind of forward to trade for. If you’re giving away a 20-10 guy and getting Tim Thomas in return, something’s seriously wrong with your front office. I might just have to become a Clips fan if NY keeps up this crap

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.21 at 8:16 pm
    WHAT?!?! WE JUST TRADED OUR TWO BEST PLAYERS. WHAT THE F*CK IS DONNIE WALSH’S PROBLEM. WHYYYYYYYY??? I’M AT A F*CKING LOSS FOR WORDS.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.21 at 8:19 pm
    @ the baconator: Zach Randolph was the second best player on the Knicks, so shut up. 20-10 is not easy to come by, so I agree with what you’ve said about how the trade is horrible, but you really need to get better at determining how good players are. Also, Donnie Walsh sucks @ss.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.21 at 8:20 pm
    @ Dma: Actually, you’re a ret@rd. Randolph was working out great for the Knicks. We were winning ball games and he was producing big numbers, while everybody else on the team was able to contribute.

  • Marleezy Posted: Nov.21 at 8:41 pm
    yeah and btw baconator they dont have crawford anymore. They better f***ing get Lebron or DWade. Thats all I have to say.

  • adams Posted: Nov.21 at 8:53 pm
    We got rid of Zach Randolph, y’all!

  • Moose Posted: Nov.21 at 9:03 pm
    Marleezy, you mean they better get LeBron. Wade is staying in Miami, dawg.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 9:07 pm
    Teddy, do not kick the chair out from under you, their is a possiblity of light on the horizon, its no sure thing, but its a possibility.

  • Alpha-bet Posted: Nov.21 at 9:08 pm
    Wow, throwing away the season and looking ahead to 2010 must be the new s#*!t this year..word the the Pistons, Gil Arenas and now New York…

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.21 at 9:09 pm
    I still can’t believe they brought back Tim Thomas. Donnie Walsh should just go around to all the season ticket holders houses and spit in their faces.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.21 at 9:10 pm
    Also, Utah is PSYCHED, seeing that they’re holding the Knicks’s unprotected 2010 first rounder.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 9:15 pm
    Russ, i guess they want to be underachivers agian?

  • Cam Jones Posted: Nov.21 at 9:17 pm
    You people are so fairweather it’s rediculous. Knick fans for years have been absolutely begging for management to blow this team up. They get a few wins and all of sudden people view these former underachievers and malcontents as All Stars. Earlier this year people were mad as hell Donnie didn’t trade Z-Bo straight up for a 2nd rounder. Now we get that plus two bodies that will be off the cap soon and people throw a fit. Knick fans have suffered through years of suck, what difference does one more season give.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 9:19 pm
    Moose, was the dawg part nessisary? Have you been hanging out with Randy Jackson (the only person using that word since 2004)

  • thasam Posted: Nov.21 at 9:20 pm
    Just heard Jalen Rose on ESPNews say it is a foregone conclusion that LeBron and Bosh are in Knicks uniforms in 2010, even go as far as saying that Cavs and Raptors fans better get all the autographs and memories that they can now. I guess it also means that Jay-Z better sell his share of the Nets ASAP - which he really should; the Brooklyn arena is not happenening and he has no use for the franchise now. The Nets really f***ed themselves and the only way to begin to make amends is to move to the Prudential arena in Newark and start fresh there.

  • Gerard Himself Posted: Nov.21 at 9:24 pm
    this might be the first time Steve Francis wishes he was still on the Knicks.
    And this is also the first time this season that I believe that my beloved Nets still have a chance to have a better record than the Knicks this season. (and Cam Jones is so right)

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 9:24 pm
    now that i have calmed down, a lineup of C-David Lee?(Who is their center, please dont say Eddy Curry or Jerome James), PF-Al Harrington, SF- Wilson Chandler, SG Cuttino Mobley, PG Chris Duhon is only 47.953333333333333311% worse than the previous one, and they clear up cap space and a lottery pick this year, so whats the problem(besides lack of a center)

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 9:26 pm
    my only question is who will take all Jamal Crawlfords shots? Nate Robinson?

  • Gerard Himself Posted: Nov.21 at 9:34 pm
    @BETCATS: maybe Q-Rich will shift to the SG spot? So you have Duhon, Richardson, Chandler, Harrington and Lee?

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 9:39 pm
    Gerard: I could see that working if Q-Rich were still dating Brandy, still had Steve Nash helping him get open looks, and still wore a Phoneix Suns jersey. The only thing he has left from those days is Mike D’Antoni, lucky him.

  • thasam Posted: Nov.21 at 9:39 pm
    Cam Jones - well said, I’d like to add that the Knicks have needed to clear cap space for a decade at least. Alpha-bet - it was overdue for the Pistons to break up that squad, and yet they got one of the greatest scorers in NBA history and maintain their status as one of the elite teams in the East with an outside shot of going to the Finals, I wouldn’t call that throwing away the season Moose - I wouldn’t consider it a foregone conclusion that Wade will stay in Miami. A lot depends on whether the Heat will improve in the next to years and/or get a quality free agent as well. The only thing that South Beach has that NYC lacks is warm weather in the winter months, and with some of the drama that’s beginning to creep in his single life, maybe he would want a change of scenery. Russ - Tim Thomas played the best ball of his career under D’Antoni in Phoenix. Granted, it was a contract year for him and it got him paid by the Clippers. But maybe D’Antoni thinks he can motivate him and he would be great for that system, plus next year will be a contract year for Thomas again

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 9:44 pm
    thasam: He had Steve Nash passing him the ball then, now he has Chris Duhon. No disrespect to Chris, but he aint Steve Nash

  • RV Posted: Nov.21 at 9:47 pm
    i agree with cam, its not like they were building a contender in NY, and they were pretty much a .500 ball club, now they’ll be…yeah a .500 ball club..

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.21 at 10:21 pm
    @ BETCATS: I’d much rather have their old line-up. Definitely.
    @ RV: Its not the same without Jamal Crawford and Zach Randolph. Those two guys were our stars and in 1 day, ONE F*CKING DAY, Donnie Walsh takes those two players away from us. Un-f*cking-believable.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.21 at 10:23 pm
    Also @ BETCATS: You know, Chris Duhon might not get the stats Nash had, but he is a very effective PG for the D’Antoni system right now. He has a higher Assist-to-Turnover ratio than Nash did in all of his three years playing under D’Antoni, including his MVP years.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.21 at 10:31 pm
    Why didn’t our Knicks just get rid of Marbury and Curry and keep the two best players? A Duhon, Crawford, James, Z-Bo, Lee would be a championship caliber line-up. Chandler and Nate coming off the bench? Wow.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.21 at 10:32 pm
    It WOULD be amazing. Too bad Donnie Walsh is a f*cktard.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 10:39 pm
    Teddy, i would too, buts its not as bad as i orginaly thought, but it does make the Knicks a lot shorter (unless Jerome James or Eddy Curry are willing to step up)

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 10:41 pm
    well putting 100% of a franchise’s hope on getting a key free agent while having to compete with the rest of the NBA AND Europe is gonna be hard for the Knicks to do.

  • Cam Jones Posted: Nov.21 at 10:44 pm
    They did not get rid of Maurbury because no one wants to cough up 21 million dollars in expirers for Maubury plain and simple. Why pay 21 million when you can get him for less either this year if the Knicks buy him out or next year for peanuts as he needs to fix his tarnished rep.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.21 at 10:46 pm
    Cam: i thought he was going to Italy after this year…I am out

  • Basketballologist Posted: Nov.21 at 10:49 pm
    @teddy- but who wants curry??

  • Cam Jones Posted: Nov.21 at 10:53 pm
    The Local Krispy Kremes wants Curry…. or is it the other way around

  • jose Posted: Nov.21 at 11:23 pm
    this is scaring the sh*t out of me .supposedly they’ll have enough cash for more than a lebron .enough for 2 superstars .lebron+ wade,bosh,stat or sum other superstar. oh man!!im freakin out man.

  • KP Posted: Nov.21 at 11:24 pm
    why isnt marbury playing????

  • jose Posted: Nov.21 at 11:29 pm
    wade,plz dont be tempted to go .stay in miami things will improve more and more there

  • Alpha-bet Posted: Nov.21 at 11:53 pm
    @thesam, I do know while the Pistons is still one of the top 3 teams in the east..and they didn’t get worse with A.I.. but I don’t think they got any BETTER either..prolly wasn’t gonna beat Boston and have major trouble with Cleveland either way. A.I. is one of my favorite players of all time, and I LIVE in the D so I’m glad he’s added some excitement to this area that’s been hit so hard recently with the auto industry, economy.ect.. But it is what it is..Allen Iverson is a temp on the Pistons..You seen they just gave A.I. the shirt off Chauncey’s back and slapped “Iverson” on it. As to say “Here just take this for now”..

  • Alpha-bet Posted: Nov.21 at 11:55 pm
    meant to type “thasam”, apologize about the misspelling..

  • SHERLOCK FOAMS Posted: Nov.22 at 12:02 am
    $100 SAYS MOBLEY ASKS FOR STEVE FRANCIS’ OLD LOCKER/JERSEY/JOCK-STRAP/SOCKS/APARTMENT/LIMO DRIVER… I still think D’Antoni should get over it and use Marbury (not because he has not choice but because he actually WANTS him playing). If not, good luck trying to land Derozan in June!

  • Z Posted: Nov.22 at 12:20 am
    Make no mistake, this is LeBron or bust for Walsh. Basically, the Knicks just threw the towel for this season AND next season as they won’t try to better themselves and they won’t eat any contract. If LBJ comes, it’s all good. If he doesn’t, it’s a waste. Wade, Melo, Bosh, Amare, none of that matters. LBJ OR BUST.

  • Timmy D Posted: Nov.22 at 12:30 am
    Why would Lebron want to go to a team with a stank a$$ roster like the one the Knicks have now. Lebron wants to win titles and there is no history of championships with the Knicks no matter what people seem to believe. They might be the most overhyped NBA team in history, theyve won 2 titles in like a hundred years, nice job

  • RV Posted: Nov.22 at 1:50 am
    because NY is not just clearing cap space for one big free agent, its aimings for TWO big names….rumor is Bosh and Lebron. Once you’ve got two big names like that, and keep guys like wilson, nate, maybe Lee, and Gallinari works out…then you got a nice team, sign another smaller name center in the 2010 class and that’s one hell of a team. nate
    Lebron/who cares
    chandler/gallinari
    Bosh/Lee
    Tyson?

  • 007 Posted: Nov.22 at 2:32 am
    d’antoni is actually “trying” to build a suns version in the east..that is d new york..thus d big trade moves..although..walsh wud have done better if he traded other guards like q-rich instead of jamal.

  • NBA-JERSEY-KING Posted: Nov.22 at 2:44 am
    So the Clips now have Kaman, Thornton, Camby, Z-Bo up front- they gotta trade one of them…..

  • RV Posted: Nov.22 at 3:19 am
    thornton is a small forward, he’s not up front…they’ll probably just have Randolph split time at the 4 with Camby,

  • jaywhy Posted: Nov.22 at 3:26 am
    Camby off the bench? anw i dont think Knicks should do so much just to clear up cap room for LeBron… sure they want the money to pay LeBron, but they should keep a few talents since they’re a playoff team this season… it will be harder for a superstar to resist both money and a team success… this trade is okay but the Crawford trade was just absurb… Jamal would be a great side-kick to *cough* LeBron James…

  • NBA-JERSEY-KING Posted: Nov.22 at 3:49 am
    but look at Miami - they desperately need a big - send Kaman to the Heat….

  • Roy Posted: Nov.22 at 4:24 am
    nice trade but they are still keeping Starbury…

  • pennydunk_1 Posted: Nov.22 at 4:32 am
    7th seed in the East

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 5:24 am
    The whole thing wouldn’t bother me that much except for Donnie Walsh stating that the players they got were the main thing, and the fact that it’ll increase cap flexibility down the road is secondary. Uh, what?

  • NBA-JERSEY-KING Posted: Nov.22 at 7:15 am
    coo blog RUSS - just checked it out…

  • ClydeSays Posted: Nov.22 at 7:16 am
    So I’m watching the Knicks V. the C’s earlier in the season and during a time out, Randolf pulls up his jersey for some reason to reveal a gut. Not like muscles but a beer drinkers, hanging over his shorts, gut. I think “There is no WAY Walsh can trade this guy unless his contract is expiring. I guess I was wrong. Get rid of Curry & JJames & I’ll really be impressed.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.22 at 8:42 am
    What happended to my “Be Ups”? I found this story, i want my credit.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.22 at 8:44 am
    well i got work to do and do to work. Peace!

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 10:38 am
    I also love how every knee-jerk blogger and beatwriter mentions that Tim Thomas played well under D’Antoni in ‘04-05. Yes, it was called a CONTRACT YEAR. This year he’s shooting a robust 38 percent and playing with his usual lack of anything resembling a care. Things are going to get much worse in New York before they get better. This is the equivalent of dumping your wife in hopes that the hot 16-year-old down the block will be interested in you when she turns 18.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 10:40 am
    Not to mention I don’t see how they’ll have the cap space to sign both LeBron AND another superstar free agent unless they plan on either having a four-man team or fielding a squad of LeBron, Bosh, and a mess of D-leaguers. Enjoy Nate Robinson and David Lee while you can, Knicks fans, because they won’t be coming back.

  • Tom Posted: Nov.22 at 12:55 pm
    So on the other side of the coin, does bringing in Z-bo pretty much guarantee Kaman gets dealt soon? I mean Camby, Kaman, and Randolph, one of them has to go

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 1:01 pm
    I’m just curious how many more times Z-Bo will get traded before his contract runs out. He’s definitely gonna get dealt as an expiring in the ‘10-11 season, but will he still be a Clipper then?

  • Spurs fan Posted: Nov.22 at 2:33 pm
    If they don’t get Lebron,D-Wade,or Bosh they will be really pissed

  • Josh D Posted: Nov.22 at 2:39 pm
    Knicks! Nets! Teams which are thinking about freeing up space for a run at LeBron,Wade and Bosh i think they said that if they change teams it would be to go to a team with a decent chance at the championship! If Cavs didn’t have LeBron,Heat didn’t have Flash and Raptors didn’t have Bosh they’d all be better than the Knicks are right now after these trades

  • Quail Posted: Nov.22 at 2:48 pm
    the clippers are a sure top 5 team in the west now. that big 3 of camby, randolph and BD is gonna be D O M I N A N T. now i just cant wait to see wut happens in the summer of 2010.

  • RV Posted: Nov.22 at 3:42 pm
    why does having 3 guys who can play the 4 and 5 mean one of them HAS to be traded?? One of them may get traded, but its not necessary. Camby wasn’t playing a lot to begin with, he was playing like 26 mins, there’s plenty of time available for Randolph. And the Clips said earlier this season Kaman isn’t going anywhere.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 4:18 pm
    If I WAS going to trade one of them, it would be Camby. But yeah, I can see those three all getting minutes.

  • NBA-JERSEY-KING Posted: Nov.22 at 4:59 pm
    this trade has to happen - it would benefit both teams http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=990~509~2165~70~510&teams=14~14~18~18~18&te=&cash=

  • NBA-JERSEY-KING Posted: Nov.22 at 5:00 pm
    the trade is Curry and Marbury for Marion, Blount and Banks - the salaries match, Miami gets what it needs in a C and PG, D’Antoni gets his favourite Marion back and Miami gets rid of Blount.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 5:35 pm
    No way do the Knicks do that—they’re not taking on any salaries that go past the summer of ‘10.

  • thasam Posted: Nov.22 at 6:03 pm
    @Russ - I hope that comment about Tim Thomas playing well under D’Antoni wasn’t aimed at me because I acknowledged that his time in Phoenix was his contract year and he got paid by the Clips, for which he proceeded to do what he has done his entire career - not give a s**t. But maybe D’Antoni thinks he can keep him interested this year and next year is another contract year for Thomas as well. I’m not saying it’s gonna work, I’m just pointing out a possible rationale for getting Thomas beyond his favorable contract

  • the baconator Posted: Nov.22 at 6:42 pm
    @Teddy: Um, I’m a Knicks fan as well. Nowhere in that comment did I say Z-Bo was a crappy player; I merely called him fat and selfish, which is true. He forces a lot of shots and takes unnecessary threes. However, I respect his ability to bang underneath and put up 20-10. Believe me, I’m just as pissed as you are that the Knicks traded him, especially when it was for practically nothing. Between him and Crawford, they traded 40 pts for roughly 30 (Thomas, Mobley, and Harrington). If this isn’t a betrayal to Knicks fans, then I don’t know what is

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 7:02 pm
    I didn’t even remember your comment, dude. Nothing personal. But man, hasn’t everyone been burned by Tim Thomas enough? His career averages are 11.8 points and 4.2 rebounds. That’s pathetic! This is a 6-10 guy who was supposed to be one of the all-time greats. I’d love to see them buy him out along with Marbury.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 7:04 pm
    And wow, are the “LeBron to New York” columns/articles going to get tired, not that they aren’t already. I wish LeBron would sign a long-term extension with Cleveland TOMORROW.

  • the baconator Posted: Nov.22 at 7:29 pm
    Russ, those “Lebron to NY” columns are one of the few things that give us Knicks fans hope. Our organization just signed away the two best players on the team for virtually nothing; we need something to still keep us sane

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 7:35 pm
    Only 152 games to go!

  • the baconator Posted: Nov.22 at 8:00 pm
    *sigh*…

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.22 at 9:16 pm
    I’m just the messenger.

  • Melvin Posted: Nov.22 at 10:03 pm
    Haha.. David Lee is again the starter.. I believe Al would play the center position and still David at 4 spot

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.22 at 11:19 pm
    Q Richardson lit it up tonight. So did Nate and Chandler. Duhon had 11 assists tonight too. Also, Nate started at shooting guard. How gangster is that?

  • Dark Posted: Nov.23 at 12:25 am
    As for the Cleveland fans who think Lebron won’t go join the “stank-a$$” roster the Knicks have, they should look at their own team, minus Lebron. It’s a testament to Lebron’s greatness that people (incl. Danny Ferry) don’t realize how weak most of his cast members are.

  • RV Posted: Nov.23 at 1:17 am
    Wally was a former all-star, who can still shoot, Ben is still a good defender and rebounder, Mo will is a good pg, Z is an above average center, West is an above average bnch player…not sure how that’s weak at all…

  • Hursty Posted: Nov.23 at 4:40 am
    To add on to RV- Varejao does the same job as David Lee, Gibson can shoot the ball a bit and they’ve already been to the Finals with LeBron.

  • Dark Posted: Nov.23 at 4:54 pm
    Mo Williams is a legit player - I’ll give you that. Please don’t bring up Wally as part of a strong Cleveland bench (6 ppg?!?) But do you really think you could take Bron off that team and see them in the playoffs?

  • Hursty Posted: Nov.23 at 7:10 pm
    Take Howard off the Magic, Bosh off the Raptors, Wade off the Heat and Granger off the Pacers and they are all in the same boat Dark.

  • KobeWearsAPurpleThong Posted: Nov.23 at 8:58 pm
    Sorry Knicks fans-Lebron’s mommy calls the shots. He will stay in Ohio. Look for the Cavs to dump a couple big salaries in the next 24 months and make history with the most lucrative contract in NBA(maybe in all sports) history in 2010.

  • KobeWearsAPurpleThong Posted: Nov.23 at 10:52 pm
    Man, you Knicks fans are a sorry lot….Poor bastards.

  • chintao Posted: Nov.24 at 3:45 am
    Co-sign Russ Bengtson @ Nov.22 at 7:04 pm. As a Knick fan, I don’t think LeBron fits the ethos.

  • Breeze Posted: Nov.24 at 11:45 am
    well it wouldnt be wise if clevand wanted to keep him to clear up cap….would would they trade or give up that would make the team still sufficient ….the knicks has to paper to do so …and to be honest the knicks with crawford and zach..would have mostlikey end up with the same record as they will now…you knicks fans act like ya was going to the playoffs or something haa…i actually like how the knicks are playing now what are they 6-5 thats not bad ….i think they should buy out tim thomas the most talented doucebag i ever saw he should go play with the obannons ..and let mobley come in off the bench…but as for teh rest of the knicks fans lets watch nate the great go to work…

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