Thursday, December 18th, 2008 at 9:00 am  |  73 responses

Hawks vs. Celtics: This is a Rivalry?

by Marcel Mutoni

All told, yesterday was a pretty rough day for Atlanta sports enthusiasts. Not only did their former shortstop spurn them to stay in sunny Cali, but the local pro hoops team lost in heart-breaking fashion (again) to their arch nemesis from Boston.

And the worst part was how much the Hawks had done to build up the hype prior to the game. From over-dramatized YouTube productions, all of the town’s celebs showing up, to wild-eyed statements from the players themselves. Here was Joe Johnson’s take on matters, courtesy of the AJC:

“It’s so much trash talking, and I think that’s what makes it such a big rivalry. You look at all the altercations that came throughout that series. It’s a rivalry when you know that there’s going to be a fight for your life every time you face a team. And it’s going to be like that every time we see them. But it’s a respectful rivalry, too. When it’s all said and done, both teams respect what the other has done.”


Riiiiight. Some rivarly. What I see, more than anything else, is a nice little matchup.

Sure, these two teams don’t like each other a whole lot, and often play highly entertaining games filled with drama. At the end of the day, though, Boston wins, as they should. And they will likely continue to do so.

But, hey, thanks for coming out to play (again), Hawks.

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  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    I wasn’t watching the game on tv so camera angles don’t really mean all that much to me, but thanks anyway. And you act like the Hawks were on their game offensively last night. Don’t give me that Boston would have won by 20 crap. It doesn’t even make sense when you consider they only won by 3. Had they won by 15 maybe you could say that, but to go from 3 to 20 is just dumb.

  • steve

    Ha, Hindu’s don’t eat beef on account of their religion. I think I stole he line from the book fight club or something. Not really sure what you are going for by pointing that out, seams like a ignore the facts and focus on the words type argument. Good stuff there, I’m impressed.

  • steve

    Statistically, the celtics held the hawks to exactly where they average holding teams to. They are what, 3rd in the league in that, maybe better. 1st in opponents field goal percentage. I’ve watched every game and just thought they were a little offensively off last night, expecially Ray. He has been scoring 25-30 points lately. He was shooting crappy last night. They weren’t rebounding good either. I mean, I think the hawks played pretty good defense, don’t get me wrong. I just don’t think the Celtics played nearly at 100% on the offensive side. I mean, it doesn’t really matter because they are a defensive team, and the won. That’s what they seam to do no matter how much other teams fans hate it, they win.

  • steve

    The celtics have bring 2 games to the table… Either they are awesome on defense and just “get by” on offense, or they play awesome defense and click offensively. Either way they have been winning. The only difference is, if the big 3 is feeling it, they win by 20+.

  • Myung

    Steve, I’m not sure if you were referring to what I wrote or what Co Co wrote. My post was actually all about giving props to the Celtics and Danny Ainge for turning things in a 365 day span. Co Co and I both support the Hawks very passionately, but we tend to see things a little differently from time to time (as I’m sure all fans do).

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    In order for it to be a rivalry, both teams need to win games and all. I know that they won in the first round for three games there, but they haven’t won a title over them or anything. Beat Boston in the first round, and it’s a rivalry. Or get some vicious techs and it’s a rivalry. Right now, I wouldn’t say so.

  • Crook

    We TRUE Celtics fans indeed DO remember the sub 20 win seasons as we remember the Banner years of Parish Bird McHale DJ Ainge etc etc. Those sub 20 years are why this feels soooo great.

    I’m the 1st to yell at the refs when they make bad calls on our opponents as I do when they make them against us. A team tries not to get in a situation where a bad call costs them a game and if they do then oh well it’s ONLY a game…

  • Crook

    Oh yeah, it’s not a rivalry. 1 exciting playoff series does not make a rivalry. We haven’t been gfood long enough to have a rivalry with anyone yet. The Lakers Celtics final was called a Rivalry because of the past history and for ratings. That’s it.

  • j-smoov 5

    Obviously a rivalry! Wait till the playoffs, they’ll probably meet again.

  • Crook

    No one hated the Celtics when they were losing. lol. No one hated KG when he was losing AND talking trash but now that he is winning he is called an AnalCircle. what a joke.

    As far as bad calls, if your Hawkes hit the crucial freethrows at the end they could have at least went into OT so don’t blame the refs blame the miscues.

  • http://www.stumbleupon.com blackjack

    Everybody hates #1

  • Crook

    1 last thing…how many Celtics should make the ASG? Be honest with yourself. KG, Pierce, what East pg is playing better than Rondo? Can you deny Ray? Remember his 4th qtr show last year. How many East Centers are playing better than Perk? Think about it before you write the negativity. J Smith, J Johnson should be there for ATL…I love A Horford but he isn’t a true center.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Yo Crook, are you T. Crook, the Celtics fan that got in Trash Talk a few issues ago? Looks like it might be.

  • Myung

    Crook, I am a Hawks fan, and the only person even close to being worthy of an All Star berth other than Joe Johnson is Mike Bibby. Josh Smith (blame the injury if you want) hasn’t made the proverbial leap, and Al Horford isn’t an All Star either (he’s my favorite Hawk, but I’m objective too). To answer your question, I’d say Rondo, KG, and Pierce.

  • Myung

    Regarding your question about East centers playing better than Perkins… how about Okafor, Dwight Howard, Horford, Jermaine O’Neal, Bogut, and Zydrunas? All you need is 2 or 3 (since I doubt more than 3 centers will make the Eastern and will probably be just 2). You can’t be serious in thinking Perkins is an all star. He’s a bruiser and plays his role well, but he’s basically just an Eastern version of Brandon Bass. On a good day, he’s Nene. Translation: he’s not an all star.

  • Crook

    Not an All star but very functional

  • Young Chris MP3

    CoCo, when was the last time the Hawks won a championship? 20 years or not, and I believe E will attest to this too, when you win the big one, you win the big one.

    If the haters wanna hate, then it’s their loss…

  • Young Chris MP3

    And Crook, Ray Allen is playing the best ball on the entire team thus far…

  • melvin ely

    Why is it being seen as a negative to have the Hawks look at the C’s as their rivals? Well yeah sure the C’s barely acknowledge them, but to me the important thing is that the Hawks are a young and hungry team looking at the top dogs as someone they believe they can beat. And if your a hawks fan (or someone who just plain enjoys watching hoops for that matter), having a young team with that combination of fire and potential in them is a very very good thing. Screw the C’s is what I say, if these hawks think they’re equals and back up their talk with games like these (it’s not a W, but hey: how many teams have taken the mighty Boston Juggernaught this close to losing?)then that’s what they are.

  • chintao

    As a neutral fan, I would say that a rivalry exists here. For me, it’s about intensity. It seems like both teams bring a little extra when they go against one another. It kind of reminds me of the old Knicks-Heat thing. The Knicks won almost all the games that mattered, but every night got pretty personal.

  • ClydeSays

    It’s a rivalry if ESPN and the Hawks Marketing team says so…

    I do think the Hawks are inching their way up the ladder to challenge Orlando for #3 in the East.

    C’s are just dominating this year though. The scary thing is that they can still improve.

  • http://www.slamonline.com John D

    This is not a damn rivalry. Come on.

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    Steve, it was just a joke, chill out

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