Marbury: ‘I Got Shot in the Head By My Own Guys in My Foxhole’

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• starbury&stevey Posted: Dec.1 at 10:35 am
  ΅Σταρμπουρι!!!!…come to greece..please€€€€

• Co Co Posted: Dec.1 at 10:36 am
  He’s right about some of this. No One came to his defense before so its not fair to crucify him for not wanting to play.

• TADOne Posted: Dec.1 at 10:42 am
  This gets dumber by the day. Pay the man his money and release him already.

• niQ Posted: Dec.1 at 10:44 am
  This makes D’antoni look like a complete as$hole.

• Simon S.Y Lawy Posted: Dec.1 at 10:46 am
  looks like i care…

• dfrance83 Posted: Dec.1 at 10:49 am
  The Knicks handled this situation poorly. Instead of stringing him along in the pre-season and giving him consistent minutes, they should have told him from jumpstreet they were going another way. Then to try and turn to him to play after telling him he wasn’t in the plans??? I understand he’s under contract, but I don’t blame him for telling them to eff off. Hopefully he’ll get picked up and can salvage this season…

• Diggy Posted: Dec.1 at 10:50 am
  Steph is right. No one stood up for him getting unfairly benched. Give him his money and set him free. They are still paying Jerome James and all he’s done in NY is eat!

• neaorin Posted: Dec.1 at 10:56 am
  obviously they were shooting blanks…

• ciolkstar Posted: Dec.1 at 11:11 am
  D’Antoni hung Stephon out to dry. Then Nate went down, and he offered Steph a chance to play. But Steph was so offended by having been benched that he said “No, thanks” They’re both being prima donnas. Bottom line: They deserve each other. PS: Who will sign Steph? You know somebody will want to, and he’ll be motivated to prove his (numerous) doubters wrong…

• Mo Charlo Posted: Dec.1 at 11:14 am
  “JUMP ON THE GRENADE!”

• TADOne Posted: Dec.1 at 11:15 am
  Mark Cuban.

• BETCATS Posted: Dec.1 at 11:22 am
  a better anology would have been ” i am a prison guard, but i still got r@ped in the shower” Your welcome

• Diogo Posted: Dec.1 at 11:23 am
  Steph pulled that analogy off clean. Nice.

• Young Chris MP3 Posted: Dec.1 at 11:30 am
  He’s Stephon Marbury, not Manny Ramirez. Dude’s done…

• maio Posted: Dec.1 at 11:32 am
  Send him to Washington.

• BETCATS Posted: Dec.1 at 11:34 am
  Send him to the Vancouver Grizzlies for the draft rights to Steve Francis

• Allenp Posted: Dec.1 at 11:42 am
  Quention Richardson was fake for those comments.

• Keith Posted: Dec.1 at 11:54 am
  All is fair in love and war. Shut up Knicks. Shut up Steph.

• Bryan Posted: Dec.1 at 12:00 pm
  How sad.

• Pve84 Posted: Dec.1 at 12:01 pm
  Yes, Quentin was ridiculously fake. I didn’t realize it prior to reading this but Stephon is actually making a valid point here, although I still think he should play when called upon.

• Joel O's Posted: Dec.1 at 12:04 pm
  Maybe this is rubbing it in a bit, and I know you NY people have probably heard / read too much about it already, but on hindsight I feel that Starbury wouldn’t be getting this type of treatment if not for all the stupid drama he and Isiah Thomas got into the past few seasons. All the Knicks sucked, and then there was the whole brawl thing with the coach egging them on… but through all that the other players seemed to honestly try to keep their peace and play through the losing. But Starbury being in the headlines non stop for all the wrong reasons over the past few years, I think, is the big reason why his teammates and coaches are all turning on him.

• Los Man Posted: Dec.1 at 12:07 pm
  Because Steph never turned his back on his team? He has been a terrible team mate for years.

• riggs Posted: Dec.1 at 12:24 pm
  why would steph get help from his teammates earlier this year? so he can do the same BS that he’s done the last few years before that? also his analogy was completely idiotic, it would have made sense if he was committing suicide and his squad mates shot him instead to make it easier.

• Allenp Posted: Dec.1 at 12:26 pm
  Riggs
  I thought the analogy made sense. The vast majority of NBA players thought what the Knicks did to Steph was unfair, but not a single Knick player said anything? Even if they despised him, they should have spoken up just because of hte principle behind the issue. Instead, they kept their mouths shut until Q pops off about how Steph isn’t a real teammate.
  That was wack. If you’re going to be quiet, then be quiet.

• mike Posted: Dec.1 at 12:28 pm
  do you think magic johnson will put in a good word for him in LA?

• D LinkWit Posted: Dec.1 at 12:32 pm
  Is it not sort of his own fault for facing the wrong way in the foxhole? Maybe turn around? He’s so passive aggressive.

• Bryan Posted: Dec.1 at 12:40 pm
  Co sign allenp. I’m having a hard time rooting for the knicks this season. I truly hope Steph catches on somewhere and gives everyone buckets and drops 35 on the Knicks when they play and is out there talking sh*t. Iim always gonna be a Knick fan but damn show some respect.

• underdog Posted: Dec.1 at 12:53 pm
  I wonder who’s gonna pick him up. And what about D-Miles?

• what Posted: Dec.1 at 12:55 pm
  Steph is completely right, but he’s still getting paid $20 million ain’t he? Kinda hard to feel bad for him…

• Spaceship Jay Posted: Dec.1 at 12:56 pm
  This is a pretty ugly divorce. Both Marbury and the Knicks pretty much screwed each other. Don’t you think it’s time for Steph to change his outlook just a little bit???

• Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.1 at 12:57 pm
  I’d give him $25 million in cash, a selection of New York’s finest interns and a one-way, first-class ticket to anywhere in the world.

• Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.1 at 12:59 pm
  Also, for those defending Steph, please point out one time in his long career when he’s ever taken the tiniest amount of responsibility for anything. He’s clashed with every coach he’s ever played for, from Larry Brown to Isiah Thomas, yet nothing is ever his fault. It’s disgusting.

• BxBaller Posted: Dec.1 at 1:00 pm
  I agree with Allenp & Bryan. I can’t stomach watching the Knicks anymore. Nate’s hurt, Steph & Jamal are gone, and as long as Whiny Tim is playing, I’m done with them.

• j Posted: Dec.1 at 1:04 pm
  Not as disgusting as what DRose did to Andre Miller yesterday. This “respect” thing is getting out of hand. You’re being paid millions of dollars by an organization who holds the rights as to what to do with you (bench - play, etc). All he had to do was go out there and THEN ask to go his separate way. The buyouts are getting ridiculous too, they need to address that as well.

• Sam Posted: Dec.1 at 1:09 pm
  Stephon Marbury has gotten the shaft since he was drafted. He and KG averaged 55 wins a season when they started their NBA careers. They offered KG 120 Mill and Steph 60, when at the time they were both the cornerstone of the Timberwolves. He asked for more money and the media attached the greedy label to him when he and KG were both responsible for the wolves success. Steph was at the time one of the most unguardable point guards to play the game since HS. Because they didn’t want to pay him they ship him to New Jersey where his only team mate was Keith Van Horn (!?) and they blame him for the losses. They trade for Jason Kidd surround him with Kmart, Jefferson, Kittles, and a bench and then compare his tenure to Steph’s. Now the media says he’s overrated. So now he’s in phoenix with an injured Antonio McDyess an undeveloped nash a rookie Steven Jackson and he gets them to the play offs anyway. The Knicks were horrid to begin with Walsh spends the entire cap on Charlie Ward, Howard Eisley, Allan bad knees Houston, and Latrell I can’t live off this Sprewell all who were gone but still reaping the reward and though Ike Thomas didn’t work he at least was able to unload all those crappy contracts and get some type of talent in return and some ok rooks, but still no Robin for Steph’s Batman. You all should be ashamed of doing Steph Like this. Nobody mentions Donny Walsh. Nobody mentions that Steph may not be warm and fuzzy, but no drug possessions, no gun possessions, no female abuse, no missed practices, no large amount of techs he may not be warm and fuzzy but he always wanted to when and always competed. The Knicks are trying to ruin his value and the media doesn’t say anything.

• Captain America Posted: Dec.1 at 1:22 pm
  Could fit in Barack’s civilian defense corp? No?

• Bryan Posted: Dec.1 at 1:29 pm
  I’m not gonna say nothing is ever his fault I’m just talking about this situation.

• ClydeSays Posted: Dec.1 at 1:30 pm
  I’ve been a fan of Marbury’s when he’s been on his game. But now I can’t even remember the last time he was playing consistantly good ball… If they buy him out, can the Knicks still trade his expiring deal?

• Rod Fillmore Posted: Dec.1 at 1:39 pm
  Go Away Marbury!! I’ll buy you a ticket to Europe.

• Josh D Posted: Dec.1 at 1:44 pm
  Heres to hoping he’ll get a new set of teamates

• speedy Posted: Dec.1 at 1:45 pm
  @Sam
  Some real nice points .
  But what you forgot is that Stephon made an ridiculous amount of money in New York and did only cause trouble … a lot of trouble !!!!!!

• KA Posted: Dec.1 at 1:51 pm
  I posted this on a forum: its effed up what the knicks did. somebody mentioned that the knicks are just serving steph back the bad karma he’s putting out but that’s bull. the NBA is a business and good business dont screw around with their employees. the knicks jerked steph around and while its debatable he deserves it, its still bad practice on knicks part. I’m just glad to see this thing ending. btw allenp, where’d you get the feedback on what the rest of the NBA is saying?

• Allenp Posted: Dec.1 at 1:51 pm
  Russ
  I’m not defending Steph’s career, I’m agreeing with his assessment of this situation. He’s gotten shafted by the team and his teammates and to pretend otherwise would be ludicrous. I’m not a Marbury fan, but this thing is bad. Plus, if we’re going to take a holistic approach to considering Steph’s career, then does that mean we consider his philantrophic work as well?
  Other people
  Why do y’all find it so hard to have sympathy for someone with a lot of money? How much money voids the right to be treated like a decent human being? I don’t get that mindset.
  What does his money have to do with your ability to have sympathy? Isn’t that just an admission of envy?

• Allenp Posted: Dec.1 at 1:54 pm
  KA
  It’s been all over these analysis shows on NBA TV and TNT with the former players often parroting the sentiments of current players. Basically, most people do not understand why they had Steph play in the preaseason and then benched him without warning. D’Antoni has never offered and explanation for that move, and I’m left to wonder if it was just spite. After all, everybody says Mike D has hated Steph since they were in Phoenix together or something.

• Stewie Griffin Posted: Dec.1 at 2:04 pm
  Can’t understand all that talk about a guy who hasn’t won anything, EVER!; I’d even go a step further by saying all the teams he has played for started winning the minute he left the building.

• Ryan.T. Posted: Dec.1 at 2:05 pm
  This is exactly the point I was trying to make on a article last week. And of course I got comments thrown back my way…. About how his teammates wouldn’t go against the Knicks organization, because they’d be “putting their careers on the line” by asking for him to get some PT. @ Russ, Marbury had nothing bad to say about D’Antoni when he was hired as the Knicks new coach. But we all knew D’Antoni didn’t and still doesn’t like Marbury, before and after this whole incident. Marbury was willing to play for D’Antoni and come off the bench for Duhon, what more could you ask from him? Asking him to play AFTER he had nobody else to turn to is a total sign of disrespect. I just don’t see how D’Antoni went about this in the right manner….. Because Marbury is a New York native (Jersey actually), Their starting point guard, makes the most money, the only player on that squad to ever make an all-star appearance, and their featured player, but all of a sudden D’Antoni made him a after thought by placing him on the bench the way he did…. That doesn’t seem right to me.

• Bryan Posted: Dec.1 at 2:13 pm
  I agree about the money part. Any of you people wouldn’t put up with this crap at your job , sure you get paid less money but you always aren’t subject to public humiliation the way pro athletes are. The size of a mans paycheck doesn’t make him less of a man. He shouldn’t have to put up with anything more than you or I do. If the knicks don’t want to play him , since they are the ones who made the choice they are obligated to pay him and full and let him seek employment elsewhere.

• Paiz Posted: Dec.1 at 2:18 pm
  @Russ.B - Sams 1:09 comment is rather compelling, I’m curious to hear your thoughts?

• Co Co Posted: Dec.1 at 2:23 pm
  How are other players looking at Knicks management now? They are trying to attract free agents in a couple of years are they not? I’d think long and hard before walking into a power trip like this. I know Steph has not been a good little troop for the entirety of his career, but the way Walsh and D’Antoni are handling this situation is very suspect.

• Myles Brown Posted: Dec.1 at 2:25 pm
  Co Co sign. I just wanted to say that.

• jaymes Posted: Dec.1 at 2:31 pm
  If you think any body but steph is to blame for how his career is turning out your a dreamer…Every team he’s been on, go well following his departure, the dude isn’t a victim…

• Jalepino Sausage Posted: Dec.1 at 2:32 pm
  Stevie Griffin - As a Sun Steph was the man. At least he hit the game winner against the Spurs in the playoffs. How many cats can say that in the League ? not many suk it Thank You

• LA Huey Posted: Dec.1 at 2:39 pm
  Watching mainstream press and SLAMophiles talk about Marbury is like MSNBC and Fox cover politics.

• Ben Osborne Posted: Dec.1 at 2:41 pm
  Nice, Huey.

• riggs Posted: Dec.1 at 2:44 pm
  Im the keith olbermann of the SLAM Nation

• Dark Posted: Dec.1 at 2:48 pm
  Thank you Sam!!!

• Dark Posted: Dec.1 at 2:57 pm
  Except for a few things Sam . . . Nash wasn’t on the Suns during Steph’s stay there, and Stephen Jackson was with Steph in NJ, not Phoenix. Also Donnie Walsh was not the GM sign those guys to huge deals.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 3:03 pm
  in my dreams an owner with a sence of humor is pairing A.I with Starbury to make the bball version of the old movie with Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels…funny thing is that i bet some kids are already adding up the carrier averages of those two cartoons and are rushing to the toilet !!! (Allenp …??)

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 3:06 pm
  My team of dreams:
  Steph–A.I.–Artest–Marion–Darko!!!

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 3:10 pm
  @starbury&steeve….:elpizw na eisai vazelos kai na erthei ston Panathinaiko…megale prepei na eisai o pio asxetos mpasketika ellinas katw twn 40 etwn…

• TheMC5 Posted: Dec.1 at 3:33 pm
  For those defending Marbury: Do you not remember last season, when Marbury bailed on the team early in the season, and then Isiah took a team vote to determine whether Marbury should play? Cause I do, and I’ll bet Q-Rich does, too. To me, benching Marbury seems like an entirely defensible basketball decision on D’Antoni’s part, even if D’Antoni did have a personal agenda. Consider the Knicks guards entering the season: there’s of course Marbury, Crawford, Robinson, Duhon, Collins, and Roberson. Now, everyone knows D’Antoni likes 3 things above all else as a coach: a short rotation, quick ball movement and shots, and good shooters. Marbury, though very talented, is not conducive to quick ball movement, as he spends a lot of time trying to break guys down off the dribble. Unless you’re Steve Nash, D’Antoni is no fan of over-dribbling. Marbury is also not a very good catch-and-shoot guy, so he doesn’t work well in D’Antoni’s system. And though he may be more offensively talented than Duhon, he is nowhere near the on-the-ball defender that Duhon is (and Duhon also moves the ball quickly, despite not being an incredible playmaker). So I can easily see Duhon starting for D’Antoni over Marbury for purely basketball related reasons, and Crawford’s height and shooting ability reasonably gave him the edge at SG. So that basically leaves one guard spot open (since D’Antoni likes a short bench) that correctly goes to Nate Robinson over Marbury. Which leaves us with spot minutes off the bench, which would likely go to Collins since he’s also a better defensive player than Marbury. You think Marbury really would have been down with spot minutes? I surely don’t. Nobody would even be saying this if we were talking about an end of bench guy. If you’re Joe Nobody and you make an NBA roster, and the coach plays you quite a bit in the preseason, and then decides not to play you once the season starts, but then has to turn to you because of trades/injuries, it’s your duty to your teammates. Q-Rich was right on point, and it seems pretty clear to me. Marbury used to be a good player, but he isn’t anymore, and he’s never been a good teammate. He played pretty well in the preseason, but not well enough to take anyone’s spot, and with his skill set he doesn’t fit what D’Antoni does. The only reason Marbury’s refusal to play isn’t insubordination is due to a mere technicality.

• Russ Bengtson Posted: Dec.1 at 3:33 pm
  That 1:09 comment has so many factual errors and slanted perception in it I don’t even want to get started. I will say that the Timberwolves didn’t offer Steph half of what KG was making—if you’ll remember back to ‘99, after KG signed his $120 million deal, the new collective bargaining agreement made it IMPOSSIBLE for the Wolves to give Steph the same amount as KG. (And, considering the course of their respective careers, it’s probably best that they didn’t.) Instead he got dealt to Jersey (where he was happy to go) and they gave him a max contract. He then got ANOTHER max deal from Phoenix, if I remember correctly.

• Bryan Posted: Dec.1 at 3:42 pm
  My point exactly co co.

• TheMC5 Posted: Dec.1 at 3:50 pm
  That rant made more sense with paragraph breaks.

• Allenp Posted: Dec.1 at 3:56 pm
  Paps
  Iverson and Marbury did win one of the greatest All-Star games of all-time in the same backcourt. Just saying.
  Actually, nobody who watches basketball would think that Steph and AI could coexist.
  LAHuey
  Good point about the way Steph seems to polarize people. It’s weird that so many people have such disdain for him. I’m not a Steph fan (which by the way has become the new “I’m not a Muslim”)but I can still see some serious flaws with the way management has handled this situation. I didn’t have a problem with the T-Wolves trading him and thought he was stupid for counting another man’s dollars. I thought New Jersey was smart to trade him Kidd. But, nobody from the Knicks has bothered to explain why they played him in the preseason, or why they didn’t approach him about a buyout before the season if they didn’t want him around.
  Seriously, that is just piss poor management and if Isiah Thomas had done it, there would be no end to the second guessing.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 4:01 pm
  @The MC5….:Starbury (and the other cartoon) has never been a good player. It’s just that he spend some years on lottery teams where he was taking care of his stats without any coach (or somebody else) really caring on the impact of such behavior to the team. D’Antoni was the one to notice this first at Phoenix. The Nets took him basically for the marketing impact he would have on the kids of his hometown area.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 4:08 pm
  @Allenp….:i know why you made this hilarious comment on ALL-STAR game success but i ain’t biting….funny comment though,…i remember how both cartoons acted after they won this exhibition game….i mean, i try hard to imagine Bird having such a reaction and i think he wouldn’t celebrate this way,not even for 100000$,..

• collin Posted: Dec.1 at 4:11 pm
  has anyone even noticed that NY is 8-8?, which is a very respectable record. they need to get rid of starbury, all he’ll ever be for the knicks is a distraction. he obviously is a hall of famer and needs to go to a team that will respect that. he’s an amazing player, but as usual new york just ruins people. for example: anyone remember steve francis? he is a hall of famer too, but all he ever did in NY is get injured and benched. now all he does is sit on the rockets bench, by the way, with stevie there, isnn’t there technically a “big 4″ why doesnn’t anyone talk about him anymore? he is still one of the best players in the game.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 4:13 pm
  by the way: i TOTALLY agree(seriously) that Starbury was shot in the head, but i am not sure it was by his teamates and definitelly this didn’t happen on the knicks…(judging by his behavior for the last 15 years that we know him, this propably happened in a hospital in a cold night of February 1977…)

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 4:16 pm
  @collin…: you are one of the main reasons i follow this forum… And you are also a hall of famer (first ballot, along with the cartoon!!!)

• collin Posted: Dec.1 at 4:18 pm
  speakin of the knicks why are they clearing cap space this season, not next, besides anyone who only thinks about two years in the future is dumb. they got a good thing goin this year. if they still had their 2 superstars (crawford, zebo) they could have clinched the 8th spot. then who knows what could’ve happened next year while they are building off that. besides the cavs are the 3rd best team this year, Bron won’t want to leave that.

• Andy Posted: Dec.1 at 4:21 pm
  Maybe I’d have some sympathy for Marbury, IF he hadn’t bailed on the Knicks last season. Presumably, that was completely different, right Steph? As it is, don’t let the door hit you on the way out, you hypocritical moron.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 4:22 pm
  @collin….:boy you are a gem….!!!

• Moose Posted: Dec.1 at 6:16 pm
  Steph, can you just go away for a while, please?

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 6:28 pm
  Moose in da house!!!!

• Z Posted: Dec.1 at 6:31 pm
  Until someone explains to me how the Knicks let this situation run until the month of December, joke is on the management. Good god, you’re telling me that Mike D had NO IDEA that he didn’t want Steph as soon as he signed the contract? Steph could have averaged 30 a game in the preseason and we’d still be in this situation. I’m just saying.

• Kieran Posted: Dec.1 at 6:32 pm
  erm Collin hate to break it to you but Marbury and Francis are certainly not HOFers! that may be the most ridiculous thing ever said on here. theo did AI touch you when you was younger? Why do you feel the need to take swipes at him in every single article regardless of topic.

• Roy Posted: Dec.1 at 6:57 pm
  Damn….

• jaymes Posted: Dec.1 at 7:12 pm
  Marbury and Francis hof? That is gold! Love your work collin….

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 7:15 pm
  @Kieran….: A.I and Starbury make me feel like a bball mastermind here since for a “strange” reason the kids refuse to see the obvious with those two cartoons…i mean, there were many of them saying that A.I. would help Detroit fight for a title!!!!(i wrote down names on that day to use for future reference.it is something like the “Lebron list”)

• LeeVan Posted: Dec.1 at 7:23 pm
  Bryan Colangelo is a smart man, but I could see him signing Steph to a modest contract if Steph gets his buyout from the Knicks and is smart enough to take decent money from a team that he can become an instant contributor on.
  AS long as the Big Bosh Man and JO can keep Steph under radiation, he could be a good scoring option for the Raps.

• jaymes Posted: Dec.1 at 7:26 pm
  Theo,Call me a kid if you like,but whats the obvious with al?

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 7:32 pm
  @LeeVan…..:i bet that in Starbury’s wonderfull mind he is clearly better than Calderon!!!! i would kill to somehow get Calderon at Olympiacos…on the other hand i would like to kill Angelopoulos if he gets us any of the 2 cartoons next summer just to make a buzz….by the way: Lynn Greer is better than both cartoons at the moment E-A-S-I-L-Y….

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.1 at 7:38 pm
  @jaymes…:you ain’t on my “kids” list (yet…). The obvious is that they NEVER won ANYTHING ,ANYWHERE in their storied(!!!) career and that the tend to make teams better by leaving them (like all diseases tend to do..)

• jaymes Posted: Dec.1 at 7:42 pm
  Didn’t the sixers make the finals in 01, i guess by your not winning anything anywhere ever logic, Malone, Barkley and Ewing were scrubs too?

• CARTEL Posted: Dec.1 at 8:27 pm
  i just wanna say, props to jamal crawford…he was the only one to actually say he didnt think it was right how they handled steph and also spoke on how steph worked hard to get in shape for the season and was later treated unfairly by the organization…mainly coach d’antoni…he even stated how steph did everything to cooperate with coach DAN but was still discarded…so i think it was more than just steph, it was handled poorly on both sides…and lets be honest here, as soon as we found out that mike d’antoni was coming to NY, we knew steph was gonna be heading out, whether he wanted to stay or not…

• Dacre Posted: Dec.1 at 8:29 pm
  Malone no, Barkley no…Ewing…juries still out.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.1 at 8:34 pm
  I really don’t know where I stand on this issue. Its a shame Marbury didn’t get to pan out in this system, or play for that matter. But both sides have been acting irresponsibly. At first I was angry and Steph, but now, I really don’t know what to think. The Knicks are my team, but at the same time I also support NY ball players. I hope Marbury can get back on track and our team can recuperate from this mess.
  It really helps to see things from both sides. Seeing the story from Marbury’s view starting to make me feel bad for him. I know he was trying to make things right at the beginning of the season and came to play, but was mistreated and thrown into exile. That’s unacceptable. If he really feels that betrayed, he must be feeling horrible. But so do his teammates. All I know is this nonsense has got to stop, before both Marbury and the Knicks get screwed. I think its really a miscommunication on both parties involved, with both sides acting irresponsibly about this whole matter.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.1 at 8:34 pm
  And to the Euroleague people who keep talking about sending Starbury away to Europe, please, shut up. He’s better than that. Come on now.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.1 at 9:25 pm
  @ Theo: You’re an idiot. You don’t think players are any good if they don’t win championships? Okay, then I’m guessing by your poor choice of words that Elgin Baylor was nothing. Well, you sir, are an idiot.
  PS: Allen Iverson is an amazing player. Don’t you dare compare his career to Marbury’s.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.1 at 9:26 pm
  No offense.

• ballerfromwayback Posted: Dec.1 at 9:49 pm
  hey, uh “betcats” there is no team in vancouver. welcome to 2008. they left van in ‘01

• ballerfromwayback Posted: Dec.1 at 9:53 pm
  marbury’s a problem, but he’ll excell where ever he goes. he’d fit in great w/ a veteran team, coming off the bench (san an for example) he can’t b/c of his rep, start anywhere right now

• Mavus Posted: Dec.1 at 9:53 pm
  CAN I ASK… WHAT ARE THE KNICKS WAITING ON? PAY THAT MAN!!! Nobody is going to make a trade for a guy that will be on the market 3 days later, AND WHAT ABOUT EDDIE CURRY? Nobody told them to pay them that much in first damn place.. live with your mistakes in the past and move ON!!!! YO… 2010 is two years from NOW and LEBRON is NOT COMING TO A TEAM THAT HAS NOBODY!!!

• mutoni Posted: Dec.1 at 10:18 pm
  i CANNOT believe that i didn’t tie this post into the incredibly hilarious plaxico burress fiasco. that was like watching a letters-high fastball sail by. forgive me, for i have failed you all.

• KA Posted: Dec.1 at 11:40 pm
  I dont like to putt this all on pringles because I love his impact on court. I think the real culprit here is the disconnection between coach n management. they started the season with intent to go separate ways with steph but couldn’t pull thru and now its a mess. even if steph has a hand in it its still the knicks job to clean it up. its called damage control, knicks suck at it.

• Nashty Posted: Dec.1 at 11:43 pm
  Wow, I cannot believe there are still people out there trying to denfend Marbury. At this point, Marbury could probably go to his fans’ houses, shoot their entire family and still it’s not his fault.

• KA Posted: Dec.1 at 11:48 pm
  also allenp, LOL at not a Muslim comment. I’m a Muslim n that’s frickin hilarious.

• Jake Posted: Dec.2 at 12:27 am
  No matter what your stance on the guy, if you are a Knicks fan then you’re going to miss the consistent entertainment value this guy brings with his quotes.

• chintao Posted: Dec.2 at 12:58 am
  Teddy, please do the right thing for once. Marbury has been wronged. The Knicks are being controlled by an apostate regime. Steph deserves our support much more than a team that is under control of one of the five worst owners in the league.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.2 at 2:50 am
  @Teddy….: where have you been my little friend…!!!!! We were looking forward to your wisdom but it was worth all the wait…your argumentation was one of a kind, a work of a genious, i mean, i don’t think the cartoons would have made it better..case closed!!!
  Once again : Both cartoons are two of the worst players that saw this league and fortunatelly we nearing the end of this sad joke.

• davidR Posted: Dec.2 at 4:11 am
  steph infection.

• rikson Posted: Dec.2 at 6:10 am
  @ RyanT.: “Marbury was willing to come of the bench behind duhon”… Are you serious??? ITS HIS FREAKIN JOB!!! This guy is NO Allstar (anymore), and even if he were, shut up and do whats best for the team… Actually he wont be a starter for the rest of his career - period. Marbury is that kind of guy that wants recognicion for usual stuff. “Its not my fault, i was willing to come off the bench” -> well youre supposted to dumb@ss. Same as: “I never been to jail”; “I take care of my kids”…

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.2 at 6:38 am
  IVERSON FOR PRESIDENT OF THE PLAYERS UNION!!!! STARBURY FOR GENERAL SECRETARY!!!!

• Crook Posted: Dec.2 at 7:59 am
  It’s amazing, some how Marbury always comes out looking like the poor victim. There’s always a lot of people throwing his “great” numbers around to justify him (I’d get great numbers on decent to bad teams if I controlled the ball the whole game) It’s like the crazy women who want to marry a serial killer when he is in jail. LMAO! I thought it was a joke to put his numbers up in comparison to Magic and The Big O. They are similar but does that make him a player of their status. NO! Marbury was a good player who couldn’t play well with others. He says his teammates shot him in the head, well players usually stick together so for his teammates not to stand up for him says volumes. I liked Marbury’s talent but he is the one who seems to be the Anal Circle. He and Plaxico should go into business together.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.2 at 8:07 am
  @Crook….:”Marbury was a good player who couldn’t play well with others.” In which game he was a good player since he couldn’t play well with others?? Cause in bball this cannot happen by default since it is a TEAM game…Was he a good swimmer..? Maybe a good ballet dancer …?? wait,wait , i found it.!!!! With his mental abilities it is obvious that he was a good chess player!!!!

• Crook Posted: Dec.2 at 8:41 am
  @ Theo P…He did make 2 ASG’s and he did have talent. I wouldn’t have him on any team of mine but his skills were good. In the game of bball you CAN be a good INDIVIDUAL player AND not play well with others. It is a TEAM game but it consists of INDIVIDUALS…

• rikson Posted: Dec.2 at 9:11 am
  A child using a war antology… kind of funny

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.2 at 9:12 am
  In the game of bball it DOESN’T MATTER AT ALL if you are just a good individual unless we talk about exhibition games for “kids”…(no wonder both cartoons had some of their biggest moments in exhibition games…).

• nastierthanyou Posted: Dec.2 at 9:41 am
  Cartoons don’t support families. Ballers are ballers whether you support them or not. hopefully steph balls out and closes his career on a good note. Steph has used his career to enabled kids and adults to look decent for a reasonable price. I don’t make a bunch of $, but I can get my daughter clothes to play in and clothes for church meanwhile I also can pay my rent. Thank you sheph

• rikson Posted: Dec.2 at 9:45 am
  If you dont make a bunch of $ - maybe, just maybe, you shouldnt care so much about your fashion… JUST SAYIN.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.2 at 9:51 am
  @nastier….:the negative impact of the cartoon’s and other stars selfish behavior to the society(through kids) is way more important than a free pair of sneakers(that is given usually under the advise of consaltants. Starbury’s behavior-game is so selfish that he would never do such a thing by himself)…ask whoever sociologist you want…

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.2 at 9:53 am
  @rikson…:!!!!!!

• collin Posted: Dec.2 at 11:59 am
  when i said marbury and francis were HOFers, i didnt mean now i meant later on. if they get their careers back on track.

• Theo Papaloukas Posted: Dec.2 at 12:47 pm
  @collin….:don’t worry..they will for ever be hall of shamers no matter what!!!

• collin Posted: Dec.2 at 12:53 pm
  hey theo papaloukas, theres probably a place in the HALL OF SHAME reserved for you

• Candice Posted: Dec.2 at 11:55 pm
  Okay from my understanding he was told he was not part of the plan’s the beginning of the season from the coach. Walsh was shocked that Stephon didn not start/play in the opener or against the Sixer’s. Then they trade away people and expect him to be gung-ho? I don’t think so. If he was asked to play he has the right to decline. This coming from a non Marbury fan. Mike knew he wasn’t going to play him so they should have did what Indy did.

• chintao Posted: Dec.3 at 2:05 am
  Ban Theo. Teddy might make some pretty spurious arguments, but at least he’s not an a$$hole.

• rikson Posted: Dec.3 at 5:58 am
  @candice: Okay from my understanding Marbury signed a contract. This contract forces him to play whenever the coach wants him to play, nomather what the circumstances are!!! Its just not his decition - especially since they pay him a huge amount of money… I think only very (VERY) few people have the posibility to work when they want to - but to demant a situation like this is just a sign of a too high flying marbury…

• rikson Posted: Dec.3 at 6:02 am
  What would you say if a coach that is on a hot seat (or close to getting fired) just didnt show up, as the organization doesnt include him in future plans - ridiculous…

• Candice Posted: Dec.3 at 2:58 pm
  If he is ask to play, he has the right to say no. Even old player’s and media are on Marbury side, that tell’s me something. The Knicks bothched this from the get go.