The Carlos Boozer Situation, and Paul Millsap’s Place in it

Stevie your a child right? You can’t compare 2005 and the Olympics to this season, plus wade had shaq in 05 and lebron didn’t. LeBron went to the finals more recently and the heat were the worst team in the league last year. If stuff from 2005 matter stuff from 06 and 07 should matter too. And what should matter more then anything is cleveland 20-4 record compared to miami’s 12-12. You can say whatever you want but i would rather have the guy that leads his team to victory on a more consistent bases. By himself.

I think youre wrong.

This team with Wade + good roleplayers has been and is a 6-8 seed around.500 team.

Wade+Boozer+good roleplayers changes things a TON. Having an inside out duo like that is world-changing, especially when youve been living off one man. It would make Wade even better and more efficient than he’s already been as well, it will make the whole teams offense (and then defense since they can get back and set) better, plus rebounding, etc.

I think Beasley WILL be a bust. He’ll always score, but thats all he’ll do, and he’ll never be an inside scorer and he’ll never be a bigman.

Zo/Joel
Boozer/Kirilenko
James Jones/Kirilenko
Wade/Cook
Chalmers/Quinn

I see that as a 55 win team if they played this whole year together form the start, and Wade with that supporting cast would have a great chance at knocking off the celtics, probably better than Lebron has with the cast around him (Big Z’s post presence and Mo-Will’s secondary playmaking plus roleplayers).

They would only get better as they grew as a team too, and as their hunger for a ring grew, they would win a ring within the next 3 years i bet, and maybe end up as a dynasty (i would bet on that, due to wade’s hunger and greatness as their leader)

NBK: Thats why i said “WHEN HEALTHY”

Yes the heat were the worst team in the league last year: Wade was hurt last year.

That is why i said: “WHEN HEALTHY”

FYI: Im 24 years old (april 11 1984), not that it matters.

Youre the moron who judges a player when he’s hurt instead of when he’s healthy.

Now lets recap: Wade in 05-06 playoffs: best player

Wade for 2006 team usa for world championships: best player

Wade in 06-07 season up until injury: best player

Wade’s return to health on this years olympic team: bst player

Wade so far this year: best player

Plus who cares what the Heat were last year? They shouldve NEVER traded Shaq. He was their post-up presence and 14ppg/8rpg 28mpg center inside…… similar to what Big Z is for the Cavs right now and the last 3 years.

HELL: If Lebron was hurt last year the Cavs would be the team with Beasley right now, maybe they wouldve traded Big Z for Marion and Banks too.

Also: The heat won the title in 2006, not 2005, and shaq was as much of an impact as Big Z was for the cavs a year later, actually lebron probably had MORE help in his finals series than Wade had in his (depending on who you’d take: Gooden/Pavlovic/Hughes or Antoine Walker/JWill/Posey)… the only difference is after losing the first two games Wade decided to take over, something lebron couldnt do

No way Beasley is getting traded for Boozer. Boozer will go to the team who bids the highest. The dude left the Cavs when they were on there way up, for the jazz-who at the time had no chance in the west. It doesn’t appear winning means more than coin to Booz.

LeBron James is the best player in the world Stevie to me dwayne is tied for 2nd but to say he is better then LeBron after what LeBron has been doing the past 2 years is bs. And wade was the best scorer on team usa, on defense he took risk after risk and because of the inferior competition it payed off more then it should have. But to say he was “obviously” the best player is rediculous. And in 06 the best player was Carmelo Anthony and that wasn’t even close. But you can believe whatever you want your opinion is obviously biased. There is no use discussing this with you, your a heat fan, your always going to think they are better then they are.

NGK I agree that the heat probably wont win anything this year but to say that with Boozer they wouldnt have a chance is somewhat naive. Boozer is probably a better post-up presence right now than Shaq was in their title run, and Wade is better now than he was then………………………………..

I dont think you understand how important it is to have a 2nd scorer for Miami. Beasley can do it but he really cant pass or make plays or play defense, so its moot. Marion cant score AT ALL in the halfcourt….. i dont think youre picking up how good Wade has been or how good the HEAT would be if they added a 2nd option for Wade. For example: If you replaced the name “Marion” in the lineup with the name “Caron Butler” or “Josh Howard” I would bet my life that the HEAT would be at worst 15-9 right now and the 4th seed in the east, i think if we had a time-machine and went back to the beginning of training camp and you switched out Marion for Caron Butler that they would likely be better than that and be the 3rd seed in the east at this very moment in time.

Stevie, for a Heat fan your off Bealey pretty early. Give him time before organising his departure, he’s only played 20 odd NBA games dude.His D will improve as he matures, and his offensive game will improve with more touches. Forget about Booze.

Oh yeah boozer is more of a postthreat now then Shaq in 05 huh? Shaq was 2nd in MVP voting that year don’t bring some bs like boozer is more dominant then Shaq a year he got a ring. That was stupid and I mean to offend you when I say that

let’s wait and see if Boozer even deserves a raise first…he played like crap the last month of the season and stunk in the playoffs and if i remember correctly, didn’t exactly show he was back early this season. The way millsap has been playing, why bother with Boozer. Let him walk. I sure wish Sloan would bench him before he (if) gets his groove back just so no one will pay him.

your right he didn’t but his stats were virtually identical except he only played 56 games. He was 2nd in mvp voting in 2005 the year before and did not decline in production the following year. So your right i was a moron but saying carlos boozer is more dominant then shaq in a title year is still the more moronic of the two.

The majority of the comments after mine are incredibly hard to read. Ever heard/seen spacing fellas? Mmm…

I understand that a player’s career is short and that especially early in their career’s if they can score a big contract, they should take it. But from a fan’s perspective, Boozer blew what might have been his only chance at a ring by leaving Cleveland.

He got his money in Utah, but that was followed up by almost 2 full seasons of being injured, being called out by the owner and fans and now he’s talking about opting out not even halfway through the season.

Maybe it’s me, but if I’m an owner or GM looking at Boozer, I have to look at his performance in Utah, his injury history and his focus on a contract above all things.

on utah’s side they better find trade value for boozer if they cant give him d raise..or think he deserves it..

lol @ rock lob

All atheletes care about is money.What happened to the love of the game?

While I don’t have much respect for Carbos Loozer’s game, at least he is among the few who recognize that the NBA is a business. I have to respeckonize that.

I would definitely love to not have Boozer back next year. I mean Millsap’s potential is just good as advertised. The Jazz can then have more cap space on getting more important pieces to their team

Boozer for Marion is looking more plausible by the day just to let everyone know marion to cleveland is dead (like i said) and boozer for marion straight up is still a possibility. So there you go heat fans they will not have to give up Beasley to get Boozer, and like i said the jazz are not totally against having kirelinko and marion on the same team.

Boozer is a tart. Millsap for Jazz’s starting PF in 2009.