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Monday, December 22nd, 2008 at 9:01 am  |  109 responses

The Post Up: Dwyane Wade’s Balling

While Devin Harris silences Mark Cuban for once.

by Holly MacKenzie

Good Morning, greetings from Nova Scotia!

And, man is it cold here. We got hit with a snowstorm last night and have a white winter wonderland all over the place. I’m happy there will be snow for Christmas, but I could do without the freezing cold wind. Particularly because I only brought one pair of boots with me and then took them in get the lifts on the heels fixed and now I’ve got stilettos and a pair of flats, all of which can only be worn with bare feet.

Eeeek. It’s been cold. Ha!

So, my Lakers. Some of you made fun of me awhile back for saying they need to get their focus right, and well, I was right. Losing to Miami and then Orlando, unacceptable. Yes, the matchup between Dwyane and Kobe was a great one, but still, these Lakers should not be dropping Only in Miamigames like this. Not with the way they started out the season.

I’m frustrated with the focus, and effort, late in games.

Frustrated with news that Jordan Farmar has torn the lateral meniscus in his knee.

I’m also relieved that I’m not a Pistons fan. Really, how wrong was I, loving the Iverson trade immediately after it happened. While I was unable to catch their latest Sunday loss (this time to the Hawks), I’ve been catching word that Curry benched Iverson late and AI was none to happy about it. It also sounds like the other vets are out of control with the technicals and complaints flying around and that Rodney Stuckey is the voice of reason, trying to keep everyone together.

Step your game up, Pistons. Figure it out.

News that Glen Big Baby Davis was in a car accident on the way to the Cs game against the Knicks brings well wishes his way.

Speaking of the Celtics, I’ve got to mention my Rondo-Watch. 26/6/5 to go with 2 steals yesterday against N.Y. With all of the people who want to talk Rondo down, I have decided I’m going to do my part to talk him up, like he deserves. Love that kid.

Jamal Crawford. 50 points. Golden State win. No one knows/watches/cares. It’s tough to be a Warrior right now.

Kobe scoring 41 and losing to the Magic who were killed by Jameer. And, a  Dwight who made big free throws late. Blah.

Dwyane Wade doing his part to keep himself firmly into the MVP talk.

The Nuggets rolling over and dying in their game against the Cavs this past Friday night, which was also my first night live-blogging for The Score. That was annoying.

The best moment of the weekend came during halftime on Friday, when Avery Johnson and Bill Walton talked about the Harris/Kidd trade. I absolutely love Avery. Also love Harris for "Listen, I'm going to embarass you now..."dropping 41 and 13 on Kidd and the Mavs. Gangster.

And finally, just because I can, Syracuse is 11-1. This makes me happy.

Boston 124 New York 105

Another great game from Rajon Rondo, another solid performance from the Celtics and another win. This time, tying the club record for consecutive victories at 18. Dropping the Knicks 124-105, it was Rondo who came up big in the third, with the C’s trailing 63-62. Rondo scored 18 of his 26 points in the quarter as the Celtics went ahead by as many as 12 in the period. In the fourth, the C’s continued to roll and now sit at 26-2 on the season. Ray Allen scored 18 points for Boston as Kendrick Perkins had 12 points and 12 rebounds and Paul Pierce added 17 points. Quentin Richardson scored 29 points for the Knicks while Chris Duhon scored 20 points to go with 10 assists (but 6 turnovers), and Nate Robinson added 23 off of the bench.

Atlanta 85 Detroit 78

Another Sunday game, another loss for the Pistons. This time with an angry Allen Iverson, an ejected Rip Hamilton and a Michael Curry who was not at all happy. With Iverson allowing Mike Bibby to go off, scoring 27 points on the night, he spent some of the final minutes of the game on the bench. After a non-call and Rip getting ejected from the game, Iverson was thrown back onto the court where he wanted nothing more than to pass the ball, even when open.  At the end of the game, it was the Hawks who stood victorious, attempting 22 free throws to the Pistons 7 attempts. Joe Johnson scored 19 points for the Hawks while Al Horford had 11 points and 11 rebounds. Rodney Stuckey and Rasheed Wallace each scored 20 points to lead the Pistons as Rip Hamilton added 16 in the loss.

Dallas 97 Washington 86

While the Wizards hung around early, they stumbled late, as the Mavericks used a strong fourth quarter, outscoring Washington 28-18 on their way to the 97-86 victory, dropping Washington to 4-21 on the season. The Wizards shot only 39 percent from the floor in the game and had only two more assists (18), than turnovers (16). It was a sloppy Sunday as the Mavericks won despite starting point Jason Kidd going 0-7 from the floor and finishing with only 1 point to accompany his 11 assists. While Caron Butler did what he could to cut the deficit, he couldn’t get his team any closer than five down the stretch. Dirk Nowitzki finished with 23 points and 9 rebounds, Josh Howard had 17 points and Jason Terry scored 25 off of the bench. Antawn Jamison led Washington with 22 points, Butler finished with 18 points and Mike James added 17.

Cleveland 102 Oklahoma City 91

After completely dismantling the Nuggets on Friday night, the Cavs continued their winning ways yesterday against the Thunder. While Oklahoma City was coming off of only their third win of the season (against the Raptors, Saturday night), they were no match for Bron and Co. While the Thunder kept up for the first three quarters, a 12-4 run late in the game extended the Cleveland lead to 18 and the Cavs rolled from there. Bron finished with 31 points and 7 assists as the Cavs shot 55 percent from the floor for the game. Mo Williams scored 20 points and Delonte West continued his strong play of late with 18 points. Russell Westbrook led Oklahoma City with 24 points and 11 assists as Kevin Durant scored 26 points and Jeff Green added 16 points and 10 rebounds.

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  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I still have a sneaking suspicion that the Pistons are going to be a really hard out once April and May roll around.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    i watched J-Creezy and cried a little. That was art in its purest form. So many perfectly placed 3′s, nice mid range shots, and all them layups. It was not even beautiful, it was beyond that, it was art. I enjoyed it, even if it was on my Bobcats.

    But we beat the Grizzlies by 29 the night before so its really all good.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    “Also love Harris for dropping 41 and 13 on Kidd and the Mavs. Gangster.” That line was Gangster. Nova Scotia deserves do become a part of America for that. Yall damm Canadians dont deserve Holly.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Who put fire under Jameer’s butt? Dude is playing out of his mind right now. I, for one, didn’t think he had it in him. I’m a big fan of SVG–he’s got these kids playing above their heads, in my opinion.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    No school today, BET?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    yup. 2 fu(kin weeks off. Its 24 degrees with a 15 degree windchill. But i am still gonna freeze my @ss off and go out to ball in some sweat pants in like 20 minutes. I will legitamley look like Sarah Palin’s black baby with all the sh!t i got on. I have no idea how the fu(k i am gonna shoot or dunk or anything, but everybody else is bundled up too, so we all gonna play like garbage.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    also, i have been writtin a whole bunch of bannana brick bonkers sh!t to post on the Bachi as soon as we are aloud to post stuff agian. IT will be a crazy January for your eyes.

  • http://4point0show.com Wes

    Most improved: D. Harris. Runner-up: J. Nelson.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    “I will legitamley look like Sarah Palin’s black baby with all the sh!t i got on.” I don’t think anything else this Christmas holiday can bring me can top that!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Since Wes decided we are giving out awards: Most underrated/underloved: Joe Johnson Runner Up: Rammon Sessions, Boris Diaw

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    i am off to teach the world how to play Power Forward. Hopefully this Okafor jersey is not beystowed with the Curse of The JJ Hickeyson. Peace

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I have an odd feeling that BET plays the PF spot like a much smaller Sean May.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m wondering how Eboy got that sign into the United Airlines Arena past security?

  • http://www.friendster.com/sesa Sesa

    Maybe this is just me but pulling Rad out of the lineup is messing Lakeshow’s chemistry

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    I expected better from E-boy’s sign. No death threats or Colorado references? Step your hater game up, E!

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    This may have been the worst weekend for me collectively as a sports fan.

  • http://danchamb.com.br/Home/ Lz – Cphfinest3

    Loved that sign and the thought of Betcats balling in his Teletubbies outfit.

  • http://danchamb.com.br/Home/ Lz – Cphfinest3

    After watching Heat-LA, I’m thinking that the conversation shouldn’t be whether Kobe or LeBron is No.1 but rather whether Kobe or Wade is No. 2.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    I was one of those people who were talking Rondo down. Guess I was wrong. I’m not wrong very often, so enjoy it, kids.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Hi Tariq.

  • Guillaume

    I am with Betcats to support Boris Diaw (even if nobody cares). He’s playing great since the trade, with a good field goal percentage. The Bobcats have improved a lot as a team with Raja Bell’s D and with what Diaw brings for the team’s chemistry (see the game vs the Grizz’).
    Now their frontline Okafor-Diaw-Wallace is well-balanced and is a threat defensively and offensively.

  • Young Chris MP3

    Rondo is gonna have a field day with Derek Fisher on Christmas…

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONDO!!!!!!!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    You beat me to it, Russ. Man, it’s great having him on my team. Anyways, I have to keep saying it. I told you so (to whoever doubted what I said in the first place).

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Celts are really scary right now. Rondo is beasting but Perk is definitely legit right now. I’d say that their only weakness is their bench right now… if you really want to be picky. I don’t see how they’re not repeating… maybe if LBJ just effing wills the Cavs to victory like he did against Detroit two years ago.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    Z, Eddie House, Leon Powe, Big Baby Davis, Tony Allen . . . our bench isn’t that bad. And Pierce’s will is stronger than LeBron’s, we saw that in the 41 and 45 point performance game 7 from them. And Pierce is more clutch, and he also has a better supporting cast. If I’m looking for will, I’d take Pierce and the Celtics over LeBron and the Cavs. It’s a bold choice, but LeBron won’t just will Cleveland to a win with Pierce and the C’s in the way.

  • http://www.reflex.com reflex

    I said during the top 50 pre season that Dwade being ranked 8th didn’t do him justice, I said only players I’d have over him would be Lebron or Kobe, I said it was criminal that he was never talked about in that light as one of the elite elite even though he truly carried his franchise to a chanp (with an over the hill Payton, J Williams, Shaq, Mourning et al). But yet y’all put him at 8. Now he’s got the Heat at over .500 looking like they might make the play offs while better squads like the Wizards & Sixers looking trash. He still doesn’t have any big help, even big money Marion’s numbers are trash, but he’s doing his dan thing. He probably won’t be MVP, and rightfully so, LeBron is balling out of his mind right about now, but let me hear Dwade out of the top 4 when discussing the NBA elite and I’m going to have to e-slap a mofo.

    Dwade, I salute you.

    An unashamed stan.

    reflex.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Devin going off on the Mavs was a nice conselation prize to my Lakers and Cowboys sh!tting the bed this weekend.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Kid Presto

    top of the morning, cadets. fly society is officially in the building. The lakers are really really bad for my health that it is crazy. My mother has even threatned to take away Leauge pass away from me because she heard me yelling uncensored things at Kobe the other night and I was throwing sh*t like Bobby knight(indiana version). but hey…like holly said, can’t be worse than being a pistons fan. TAD what up!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    Okay.. SOOOOO. I woke up this morning to a whole lot of snow and zero electricity, but looks like I’m back in business! Didn’t read all of these yet, made it to BET’s “gangster” comment. Made my morning. You are the best, BET. ha

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Kid Presto

    With these past few performances, Kobe can forget about me buying his new shoes for right now. Time to cop the wade’s for the winter! great snow boots.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    @Moose- Pierce had a stronger will then LeBron last year, this year LeBron is a different monster, plus LeBron is only getting better and Pierce is sitting on a plateau its not like he is going to be any better then he was in the playoffs last year and he was barely good enough to lead them past the cavs. This year other then experience the celtics are a weaker team (no james posey) although it hasn’t mattered in the regular season a 7 game playoff series against the cavs will take every weapon boston can muster to match what they did last year. Especially considering the Cavs are getting better and so is LeBron.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Kid Presto

    Rodney Stuckey is also becoming one of my favorite young guards in the L.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    NBK, the Celtics are not weaker. Posey leaving did not make the Celtics weaker. Have you been following the Celtics? They said that we’d be weaker without Posey, but we haven’t shown a bit. With Rondo and Perkins maturing, we’re getting stronger in the starting five, and with our bench maturing, we’re getting stronger there as well. Leon Powe is taking the offensive fouls like Posey did, Tony Allen is playing the perimeter defense like Posey did, and Eddie House is shooting the three like Posey did. We’re filling the void well. And I know that LeBron and the Cavs is a whole different animal, but Boston is more of a team. I’m saying when it comes to will, I want Pierce and the Celtics to be the way. Maybe that’s only because I’m a Celtics fan, but with that matchup, I want Pierce to will a win.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Kid Presto

    yeah with a 18 game winning streak they are freaking dying at the fact that posey is not in the game.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    I understand where your coming from with the fill-ins but you are not going to have 3 people playing the one position posey did while he did all of those things. In the playoffs house will not get the opportunities to shoot like he is in december, tony allen is not going to guard lebron james his defense might be equal to posey most the time but now when pierce goes out of the game lebron is going to be able to absolutely shread the celts, (he already does regardless) tony allen will not be able to frustrate LeBron at all, Posey could, and late in games when Perkins is in foul trouble the celtics will not be able to go to that lineup with posey at the 4 spreading the court and hitting robert horry like threes. There is so much they lose by not having Posey anymore that will not show up until playoff time. I am a celtic fan too moose, but i just think that if it comes down to another game 7 there is no way pierce is going to be able to one-up lebron like last year.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    @Kid- I am not talking about the regular season the fckn rockets went on a 22 game streak last year the regular season means jack ish to the title teams other then homecourt. Which teams liek the celtics, cavs, and lakers can get with their eyes closed.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    so what are the predictions for the streak, i just don’t want them to pass 22 obviously, but i feel like Boston can go close to 30 if it wants to….haven’t seen their schedule that far ahead, but there’s very few teams who could just go and take a W from them.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    it all depends on xmas

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    I know that Allen is short, NBK. The point is down the stretch, in the playoffs, Pierce will be playing the minutes. That’s why Garnett and Pierce and Allen haven’t played much this season so far (for them). And that’s where PJ Brown came in to play. He was the defensive stopper and great 4-5 that came off the bench to sustain the other guys and their positions. Losing Posey was a blow. But they’ll be able to do it. Our bench is maturing, our starters are maturing, and we’re ready.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    And RV . . . I think that we’ll win on Christmas. And I hate to say it on this post, but Cleveland on the 30th scares me. They scare me because we’re playing a sh!tload of games up until then. So, we’ll be a bit tired, and, well, it’s LeBron. I’m NOT saying it will end there by no means. I’m just saying I’m scared. I DO think that we’ll win that game.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Moose there is another problem then don’t have PJ Brown although i expect them to sign Dikembe. I still give the advantage to Boston against Cleveland i am just talking about a game 7. If there is a game 7 i think LeBron James cancels out homecourt advantage and it depends on timely shooting a crunch time defense itll defenitely be compelling.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    NBK, who’s better at timely shooting than Paul Pierce and Ray Allen? And they’ve made it pretty clear that signing a guy like PJ Brown will happen, even if it doesn’t look like Mutombo is the man. I expect them not to sign Dike, after what Rivers said. Color me surprised if they do. And Rondo and Allen bring the great on-ball D that they need, and Garnett and Perk bring great inside D.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Nobody is better then those two thats a great point but do you really think cleveland is going to let those two beat them with jump shots? Ray Allen struggles against Cleveland, but i cannot say anything for clevelands shooters because they havent even felt the pressure to hit a big shot thus far so i am not sure how they will react when the time comes. Donyell Marshall used to be LeBrons favorite kick it out option so I don’t even know who he would throw it too.

  • riggs

    RONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • Ken

    I still think Duhon deserves MIP more than Devin.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    If Duhon gets MIP then Mike D’Antoni should be the one accepting the award.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    Devin Harris > Chris Dooooohon

  • thesubwayconnection

    Woooo! Cuse! Thanks for the shout out Holly, that’s my team! And yes, the Pistons are screwed.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Devin Harris is playing his way into the Deron/Paul discussion.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    B- I think Devin Harris has a lotta winning to do before he gets into that conversation. Both those dudes have been really successful, great numbers but winning is what matters.

  • Anton

    that’s what you get for being “bored”, Lakers.
    Maybe OJ smells blood and will spread the whole team with Mayo tonight.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think Devin harris is underrated defensively as well. NJ doesnt play good team D, but i remeber Harris being the ONLY dude that could stay in front of Tony. I’m considering dropping Augustin for a non PG who hits 3s…Maybe JR? My PGs are too sick right now. Devin Harris, Joe Johnson, and Rondo. Boo ya!

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I need 3s, who should I add?
    Jeff Green
    JR Smith
    Matt Barnes
    Delonte West
    Any of these guys worth dropping Augustin for? I couldnt get any takers on 2for1s with DJ…

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Jr or Delonte, Matt Barnes has been good since JRich came, how much are OReb worth in your league?

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    Not sure if Devin’s in the CP3/Deron convo as much as he’s AI 2.0.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Russ Devin Harris is a way better defender then AI. And he passes the ball a lot better and does not have as many scoring moves. Devin Harris is a Kevin Johnson remix

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

    Russ
    He’s better at running a team than Iverson ever was, and he’s not really as complete a scorer as Iverson once was.

    I think Devin is more Tony Parker than Iverson.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

    I’m surprised at how much love Devin gets for doing what Tony has done for years.
    I know Tony has Tim Duncan, but does anybody really doubt that Paker would put up crazy numbers if it was just he and Manu balling?

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    He’s a better three-point shooter than TP. I wouldn’t say he passes the ball a lot BETTER than Iverson, although he may pass it more. AI is a heck of a passer.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Tony Parker does not play D like Devin Harris, and he doesn’t shoot the ball like Devin. Tony Parker is great for San Antonio but Devin Harris would be great for everyone.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    He’s dragging a team that would rival the futility of the Thunder without him into the playoff picture. The Jazz and the Hornets are both probably playoff teams without those two guys(The Jazz definitely, Nawlins maybe).

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Except you would not have said that about the Hornets last year when they were not expected to be a top tier team. Chris Paul and Deron Williams are the reasons their teams are expected to be in the title hunt. Devin Harris has to make New Jersey a title team- or atleast a lock for the playoffs before he joins that discussion. Good Point Russ Iverson is a great passer but he still doesn’t do it enough therefore Harris is better at it.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    B-The jazz a playoff team without Deron? The Jazz are the 8 seed right now and Deron’s been playing for 2 weeks. I know he is not 100% but if they did not have him all together them making the playoffs is 50/50, the hornets on the other hand have no shot in hell at the playoffs without CP

  • Anton

    anyone see that Celtics press conference after they beat the Bulls?
    KG bringing the lulz: “I got 1 rebound? Man, they gon’ trade me!”

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    It’s hard out there for the Jazz—Booz has missed what, 17 games and counting? And the Nets wouldn’t be quite TTFKATSS level without Devin. Vince Carter’s still got some game left, and Twin 2.0 has proven to be far better than the original version. They do have a weird roster, though. Lots of guys I forgot were even in the L.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    I will say this the Nets have had the best Backcourt in the L this year other than Boston

  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    two more losses like the last few, and Kobe’s gonna go into full on Mambiatch mode until the allstar break. And with N’awlins/Ceatles coming up next, a very realistic thought. Nice to see he can cut, and score his way to 41 in lowtops though… ankle sprain watch, day 2: no occurences.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    It has been Scientifically proven that Lowtops do not increase your chance at spraining your ankle. Unless you step on someones foot which will cause you to sprain or roll your ankle even if your wearing some red wing work boots. Stop hating on Lowtops thats all soccer players play in and they do 100 times as much ankle damaging movement as an nba player.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

    I think y’all are overrating Devin Harris’ shooting ability and underating Tony Parker’s. Plus, I feel like Devin Harris’ shooting percentage drops greatly when he’s not in the middle of the floor. I like Harris, but I don’t think he can get in the Deron and Chris Paul discussion and I don’t think he’s better than TP. And I don’t think he plays like Iverson.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

    And Tony Parker is very solid on defense. Just as solid as Harris in my opinion.
    Plus, Tony Parker has shown he can run a team with a dominant big man and a two guard that needs touches. I can’t think of a single team in the league he wouldn’t play well on.
    I can think of several teams where Devin Harris would struggle mainly because I still don’t think he’s great at running a team. He’s great at isoing and taking him man off the dribble to create opportunities, but I don’t think he has the same point guard IQ of Tony Parker. Which is why Tony would fit in better on almost any other team.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    My sign made it for about 4 minutes….I was then politley asked to keep it down……luckily one of my boys was in another part of the arena. I met him in the mezzanine and he held it up until halftime in the upper deck. Inter-arena networking rules.

  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    on a more forgiving, softer, yielding surface than a b-ball court, NBK. And with spokes for added traction.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

    Eboy
    What did the sign say?

  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    @Eboy: YOUR sign? that pic above was one of YOUR sign?! You my friend, are gangsta. That’s even cooler than what Chintao was screaming at Kobe in the olympic opener.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Tony Parker is not in Devin Harris’ league on defense thats common knowledge. And your Tony Parker has showed he can run a team with a dominant big and a 2 who “needs” touches is totally off base, for 1 he is not playing with just a dominant big he is playing with the best pf of all time and his coach has been coaching the same offense for some 10 yearsish so hopefully he will be able to follow the system he has played in his whole career. Tony Parker has never taken over a game with his playmaking but more with his scoring and ability to get deep in the paint. And Ginobili does not “need” touches he would be perfectly happy not scoring if the Spurs win. And Devin Harris has proven he can run a team he did have quite a bit of success in Dallas. Tony Parker’s “PG IQ” that you claim is so high is more comparable to a SG then a true point. If anything Tony Parker plays more like AI then Devin Harris.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    What did the sign say Eboy? Nice win for your Heat too, I bet you were rocking the perma-smile out there. Harris and Tony both have elite speed and strong finishing ability.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Dark Saber i don’t know how much you actually play basketball but i hope you realize you don’t sprain your ankle because of “not enough traction” its normally because you foot sticks and your bodies momentum keeps going. Its a scientific fact that low tops do not increase your probability to sprain your ankle. Its proven your argument is Null

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    No Dark, that sign wasn’t sh*t. Mine was of a comment that one of our commenting fam made last week which referenced Kobe as the little white girl and the Celtics as Kobe Bryant.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    As far as Tony and Devin Harris: I think Tony’s still probably the better shooter, but Harris is improving mightily in that area. To me, those guys’ speed is what sets them apart from most PGs in the league. For example, Deron is great but he doesn’t have even close to the quickness that guys like CP3, Devin, Tony and Rondo have. The value of being able to consistently blow by defenders at the top of the key can not be overstated.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk
  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    19 years of league level ball notched on my belt, Mr. Nbk know it all, and 6 years of league level soccer before that. we’ll continue this little “scientific” discussion of yours when the Mambiatch suffers a horrific ankle sprain in the next few weeks hmm? Was nice reading ya.

  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    @Eboy: no you did not!!! i read one such commen last week, something about Kobe hurting his pinky while….? you didn’t go there with your sign did you? Damn.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    and for the record tony parker has gotten progressively worse from 3pt range since 02-03. His attempts have gone down as well as his % except in 06-07 when he went 15-38. Ill take devin’s jumper, devin’s defense, devin’s speed, vs tony parkers experience, and scoring ability

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    @Dark Saber when my 4:09 comment comes through you can read for yourself from the link that shoes show no significance in determining ankle sprains. And thats not the only study

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Oh yeah, Dark, I did. It pays to be unimportant like me. Plus it helped that everyone around me was in full support.

  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    Way to go E.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Nbk, just for clarifications sake, and from an uninterested party, I wore low tops for a short time and had nothing but problems with instability in the ankles, lack of confidence in making hard cuts and yes, I sprained my ankles severley twice in the same summer. Since then (20 years) I’ve only worn mids or highs to ball in and have NEVER had another ankle issue, unless I landed on someone’s foot.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Maybe the problem was the shoes your were wearing were on your feet 20 years ago and not today? Or maybe it was just that pair of shoes? I wear low tops and only low tops, i have sprained my left ankle once (hauraches 2004) and my right ankle twice (lebron 2′s – amar’e air max uptempo) and i currently wear the gil zero’s and haven’t sprained my ankle at all

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    So, it’s basically a case to case basis then, Nbk?

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

    NBK
    You think Devin is quicker than Parker? Well, maybe he’s slightly quicker, but not that much.
    Devin is not on the same level as Tony Parker as a point guard. Tony has been doing his thing for years and has never really gotten the respect he deserves. He understands tempo, how to pick spots, how to feed the hot hand and everything else a point guard needs. While Tony and Devin are both scoring point guards, Tony is much better at picking his spots and runnign the team in my opinion.
    Devin and Avery regularly clashed, and that could be chalked up to Devin’s inexperience, but I also think it’s a function of his mindset. When I watch him play, I tend to think he overdribbles at times, and takes some ill-advised shots. And I don’t know why you think Devin’s jumper is better than Parker’s. It’s truly not. Byron Russell shot a better percentage from three than Michael Jordan, but that didn’t make him a better shooter than Jordan. Parker’s jumpshot is much more reliable than Harris’s right now.
    Tony is underrated on defense. He doesn’t get cooked that often on defense. I don’t know if he’s better than Harris, but he’s definitely no slouch.
    In my opinion, Tony Parker is better than Harris. He’s proven himself longer and has shown no sign of falling off.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    I am not saying high tops are why i sprained my ankle but i have been playin ball for 18 years and have never sprained my foot in low tops or mids. up until this last sprain i never really cared how high my shoes were but now i don’t feel like im wearing a turtle neck on my foot low tops allow a lot more freedom with your movement it is actually a little bit harder to loose balance. (I am a guard though so wearing con

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    basically yeah case by case but it seems that physical mechanics and the way you move are the reason people sprain their ankle not the shoes their wearing, *if its made to play in then it is fine* (depending on foot shape and movement mechanics)

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Big Man tony parker is shooting a lower percentage then devin harris on less shots. What are you talking about tony parker is more consistent? Devin Harris is 5th in scoring and 5th in efficiency rating (whether you respect statistics or not effinciency rating shows if he is wasting possessions). It is obvious that Harris is a better shooter right now, its the playoffs where Parker’s jump shot has a slight advantage but i peg that on his scoring ability and the confidence he gains from some easy buckets. I am not saying Harris is a better player overall but right now this season Harris has been better then parker at just about everything except winning.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    The Byron Russel thing is the exact opposite of what we are saying, Devin Harris shoots more shots then Parker and still shoots a better %. THat means that even though he shoots shot he probably shouldn’t he still shoots a better % then the often reluctant to shoot Tony Parker. If jordan did not attempt as many jumpers as byron russel you would be right.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

    NBK
    First, Tony Parker has had injuries this season and has had several games where he’s been trying to work his way back into the lineup. I’m not surprised that his field goal percentage is lower, but we both know that typically he finishes up around 50 percent of the year. Now, I know that’s because of his layups, but his jumpshot has improved tremendously in recent years and I believe it’s better than Harris’s. By the end of the season, the field goal percentages should even out.
    Tony Parker is not reluctant to shoot, he just doesn’t settle for shots he doesn’t want to take, and he rarely forces shots. That’s most impressive to me in a point guard. I do not think Devin Harris has figured out the right balance between scoring and running a team, and I think Tony Parker has.
    But, we can agree to disagree.

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    Never would have thought going from Chauncey to AI would hurt them so much on defense. I think they will get it together offensively, but I don’t see that defense fixing itself unless another trade is made.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Thats true in a sense but I think what your pegging as Devin Harris’ disadvantage is something he has to do in NJ, think about it, the scoring options for them are really Devin Harris and Vince Carter. If he wasn’t shooting semi-bad shots then someone else probably would so why not have your leading scorer as the one puttin um up. The Tony Parker is smart about his shots is very valid and a really good point but thats begs the question – Isn’t that what devin harris did in Dallas? He did play pg the whole season dirk won MVP- and he never put up numbers like he is until he had to, its not like Devin Harris put up so many bad shots in Dallas he proved he knew what to do with the ball. And unlike Parker, Harris has proven his abilities on more then one team, the only other team we have seen parker on is France and he really did not lead them to anything.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

    It’s about more than just shots.
    It’s just about the flow of the game when each player is playing. Harris has a myopic view of the court and right now is scoring simply as a function of his superior quickness and leaping ability. He doesn’t understand the subtle game of angles and change of pace that Parker understands. It takes Harris far more effort and shots to impact a game offensively.
    Harris was not a heady player in Dallas and chafed under Avery’s demands that he run a team intelligently. He has always been at his best when freed from having to run a team. In many ways, he’s similar to Parker when Parker first came into the league.
    What
    I agree with you on Detroit’s defense. I didn’t realize how much of a leader Chauncey was.

  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    actually Nbk, i’ve balled in both types of shoes during my career. and early on, ankle sprains were my main problem, even in hightops. Due to a knee injury 4 years ago, a sports doc. i visited showed me the main cause of ankle sprains, the way your foot rests in the shoe. Bad fitting is responsible for a number of leg and posture injuries in high impact sports like B-ball. after getting corrective inlays for my kicks, i haven’t twisted my ankle ONCE in 3+ years, be it in good hightops (nike shox elevate, testify) or in horrible ones (nike shox jumpoffs)

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Like I said before Big Man Devin Harris is 5th in the League in Effinciency Rating so everything you just said about Harris needing more shots to impact the game is wrong. Harris is shooting more shots because he has too he is not doing in recklessly or at the expense of his team. You are making Harris out to be a lot worse then he is. And he is vastly vastly better then Parker when TP was a rookie. You keep saying that avery johnson could not keep up with Avery Johnsons demands but you neglect the fact that the whole team grew overwhelmed with Johnson, everyone’s production slipped. Saying he was not a heady player is awkward and without merit.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    exactly my point it has everything to do with Anatomy and the shoes your wearing not how high on your ankle they go up. And unless you lace hightops up the highest possible it is impossible for them to be stable enough to affect any part of your leg and most people do not use every lace whole (whatever there called) anyway

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Jamal Crawford is the man. Seriously, I repeat:
    JAMAL CRAWFORD IS THE MAN.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    in regards to my 5:19 post i meant devin harris instead of the 1st avery johnson my bad

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    Um, NBA players get their ankles taped by professional trainers and use custom orthotics. Lowtops, hightops, I don’t think it matters that much.

  • rikson

    @NBK: A guy outtin up 30 on a bad team doesnt mean anything. Look at all those Iguadalas and Odoms… Harris came to a team that had basically (old carter who gets it goin from time to time) no scoring option, while parker started his career with a contender. Now I dont like parker (mainly because i hate france) but you have to admit hes the best scoring PG in the league the past few years. What I wanted to say is not that parker is better, but that he has already proven himself on a contender, while harris still has to do so – so get your feed on the ground again!

  • rikson

    * puttin

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Like I said before Rikson, Harris proved he was a solid PG in Dallas, where they are competitive year in and year out. He had to prove he was a good pg w/ tons of potential to even be traded for Jason Kidd. And because of Harris NJ is not a terrible team. Also Harris is putting together much better performances then iguodala ever has and same with odom so i do not really get what you were tryin to compare. And the best scoring PG in the league would b tony parker most seasons but this year its devin harris. I do not think Devin Harris is necassarily a better player but right now he sure is playing better.

  • rikson

    @nbk: i agree with that. Harris is better at the moment – but that will change till the end of the season. As the spurs get their full roster back on the court parkers stats will go up… I hate the spurs but parker was playing out of his mind the last few years – gotta give props for that.

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