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Thursday, January 29th, 2009 at 6:45 pm  |  200 responses

Breaking: Shaq Headlines All-Star Reserves


by Marcel Mutoni

I got home from the office a little while ago, and logged into my Facebook account. One of the updates on the main page was from Adrian Wojnarowski, who claimed that he was breaking the news over at Yahoo! Sports – well before the official announcement – of who the All-Star reserves are.

Here, reportedly, is the list:

O’Neal, 36, was one of seven Western reserves chosen by the NBA’s coaches, and will play in the All-Star Game for the hometown Suns.

The rosters, and the West reserves also include the Los Angeles Lakers’ Pau Gasol, New Orleans Hornets’ David West, Dallas Mavericks’ Dirk Nowitzki, San Antonio Spurs’ Tony Parker, Denver Nuggets’ Chauncey Billups and Portland Trail Blazers’ Brandon Roy.

The East reserves include two Orlando Magic, Jameer Nelson and Rashard Lewis. East coaches also chose the Boston Celtics’ Paul Pierce, Atlanta Hawks’ Joe Johnson, Toronto Raptors’ Chris Bosh, New Jersey Nets’ Devin Harris and Indiana Pacers’ Danny Granger.

The Magic will have three All-Stars in the game, including starting center Dwight Howard, who received the most fan votes of any player. The East-leading Cleveland Cavaliers will have just one, LeBron James. Among the notable misses on the East’s roster: the Cavs’ Mo Williams, and Boston’s Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen.

Also snubbed, were Steve Nash and Al Jefferson. Sorry, gents. Maybe next year.

And you may begin complaining … now!

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  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Great to see Granger and Harris get the nod..

  • mo

    damn…where’s rondo? He’s been playing better than Harris for most of the year

  • http://www.shermradio.com Sherm

    Mo Williams is going for 50 tonight, or Lebron for a triple double on his behalf

  • http://www.slamonline.comi Jake Appleman

    Fantastic news for Devin and Rashard. Channeling my inner Mackenzie, I will say that I’m very happy for both of them. [smiley face]

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    David West?! Wow.

  • Phil B

    If a teammate has to go off on your behalf… the coaches made the right call. I’m just happy for BRoy.

  • Jacob

    im with you myles, david west is a shocker

  • Sebastian B. O. Bunionstow, esq.

    League.Really.Sucks, Inc.

  • Matt

    shaq deserves to be a starter

  • BigWalt206

    Way to go BRoy!

  • Eazy Yi

    Durant needed it as a mental boost, this is going to send him bi-polar

  • scott

    David West over Kevin Durant? That is insane.

  • WhaHuh

    jefferson was robbed

  • Andrej

    YES JAMEER IS IN OVER RAJON

  • tenorca

    Rashard? Really? I don’t see it. He’s like the black Turky-glu

  • Sari

    wers Vince?!?!?!??!

  • matt

    the truth over ray ray? no melo? ….

  • Young Chris MP3

    Rat Allen and Mo Williams should be there instead of Granger and Harris

  • tenorca

    All told though, I’m happy to see Shaq-a-Claus in there for, most likely, the last time. It’ll be nice to see Dwight eat his babies.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Kevin Durant is going to torch the Lakers, but somehow the Thunder are still going to lose by 50.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I’m pretty shocked VC didn’t make it.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I’d rather see Ray Allen in the All-Star game instead of Paul Pierce. Seriously.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Al Jefferson should have been in instead of Shaq. Seriously.

  • ENDS

    WE DID IT BROOKLYN!

  • ENDS

    I TOLD YA’ll Nuhchas

  • ClydeSays

    Devin Harris over Rondo? Come on!

  • ENDS

    Raw Lew we did it N****

  • ENDS

    Premiere Nelson We Did it, My Brother! Short People in the Building!

  • Stargazey

    David Lee > Rashard Lewis.

  • ENDS

    hell Naw

  • ENDS

    Dont Hate

  • ENDS

    Congradulate, Gary Payton

  • http://aol.com Matthew

    David West is only averaging 20 points a game to Al Jefferson’s 22.7 and is averaging about three less rebounds than AJ. Jefferson has no Chris Paul on his squad, and its not as if he’s five or six inches taller than West. David is 6,9 while Al is 6,10

  • ENDS

    Waiting Sux

  • tenorca

    Stargazey’s right. Shard is arguably the third best player on the third best team in the East. That’s not an All-Star in my book.

  • ENDS

    EBOY! WE DID IT!

  • http://hoops4life.com overtime

    Agree with Matthew, Jefferson should be in over West, i also want Nash and Carter in! Bring on the mysterious injuries forcing other stars in2 the game depending on the publics reaction.
    And yes, Big Diesel is back at all-star!!!

  • http://slamonline.com/online/media/2008/10/slam-radio-the-most-unlikely-preseason-venue/ James The Balla

    Most nicknames EVER used in all the comments!!!

  • ENDS

    David stern just Wanted Eva courtside

  • bullish

    jameer nelson is avg. 16 and 5… wow least worthy on the list..those stats would be good if it was in the ncaa

  • bullish

    but love to see shaq back in it, best personality in sports, cant wait for one his killer cross over or tee pot free throws haha

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    The East’s lack of size is disturbing…

  • ENDS

    Bron is a Freak and the west aint gonna play there bigs all game

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    If Vince didn’t make it this year, is it safe to say he’ll never be an All-Star ever again? Also, it’s too bad Melo got hurt.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-Sign Stargazey.
    WHERE THE HELL IS DAVID LEE?!?!

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    No real complaints. But IMHO Turk should be in there before Rashard Lewis. He’s clutcher and more important to the Magic than Rashard is.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    This is just retarted. The West has 0 reserve Small Forwards and the East has 0 reserve Centers (Bosh is a PF)

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Props and Congrats to Trouble B. Roy.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    You guys are right though, the East is tiny again. Their reserve “big men” are wispy finesse forwards. The wispiest big guy on the Western team (Dirk) is muscley-er than either, on any day.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I also just feel weird about there being an All-Star game without Nash or Kidd in it. Is Nash the first two-time MVP to not make an ASG while arguably still in his prime?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    People need to realize that just because Shaq is playing better than he was on the Heat, it does NOT mean he should be an All-Star! He’s only been playing well recently and its not like he’s been dominating in his old Lakeshow days.
    Al Jefferson deserves to be an All-Star more than Shaq. I don’t know why people are talking about taking away David West for Shaq, when David West deserves to be an All-Star more than Shaq!
    I guess the coaches let this one slide because the game is in Phoenix, and in any other occasion it would be unacceptable. I understand that, but please, people, wake up!

  • Jackie Moon

    Kobe and Shaq, together again. Reunited, and it feels so good!

  • Jackie Moon

    This makes the Cleveland – Orlando game that much more interesting …

  • http://slamonline.com/online/media/2008/10/slam-radio-the-most-unlikely-preseason-venue/ James The Balla

    Agree with moon on both points!!

  • http://slamonline.com/online/media/2008/10/slam-radio-the-most-unlikely-preseason-venue/ James The Balla

    As much as I can’t stand Shaq now… one lob pass from Kobe would be sweet!!

  • ab_40

    carmelo anthony over david west and VC over either rashard or nelson then I would be ok with it. I hope the two players who I think were snubbed take this as motivation to go out and help their teams win some extra games.

    you know it will be the shaq show in phoenix. probably his final apearance. I hope chuck will get back for the ASG.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    Well, didn’t expect RR to make it anyways. Too bad, though. Next year. And where the hell is David Lee? Sigh.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Teddy, watch Shaq closely. He is playing great because now the offense revolves around him. I am not complaing because my boys beat em by 22 points, i am just saying, when you have natural ablity and get the ball fed to you, you will have a all-star season. Plus the game is in Phoneix.

  • Sari

    no kidd, no nash, no vc…. feels wierd

  • http://nba.com tealish

    No Ray Allen and no Vince are mistakes I didn’t think I’ll see. I also can’t believe Vince didn’t even make the “notable misses” when Mr. Rondo did….
    There. Those are my complaints. You asked for them!

  • Young Chris MP3

    teddy-the-bear needs to take a nap.

  • Young Chris MP3

    Vince Carter is no all-star, that’s why he didn’t make the team. Ray Allen, on the other hand, has been the best player on the defending champion Boston Celtics this year.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Hmm…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Ray Allen should be in for Pierce.

  • Chris

    No Ray Ray? This is getting ridiculous…who do I have to club for him to get the nod?

  • Young Chris MP3

    It’s all good. Ray will rest that weekend and continue be fresh for the second half of the season. Them boys in green are focused on the repeat.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    David West making the all star team makes me want to puke

  • http://nba.com tealish

    Young Chris: Why isn’t he an All-Star? Because the general perception is that this former superstar can’t do the things he used to do and is therefore by default, past his prime and past his period of relevancy?
    Dude is putting up 22/5/5 on 44%/40%/81%, coming up huge in crunch time more often than most of the other All-Stars. That’s why he should be an All-Star. I’m not even counting the entertainment value that VC brings to the ASG.
    So, why do you think “he’s no All-Star”? Because he quit on Toronto?

  • jay

    vince carter? Not even an honorable mention? Ray Allen? Cmon man. Ray lew IS the 3rd or 4th best player on the 3rd best team. Seriously WTF?

  • Costa

    David West? Really? I can name you other guys who are WAY more deserving than him… just to name a couple Kevin Durant and Al Jefferson…

  • Jordan L.

    David Lee deserved to make the game. Dont care how turrible NY is. One of the best bigs today…

  • ab_40

    20 and 7 buh, 15 3 and 7 buh.

    david lee will never never ever be an all star. david west is the west’s jamal magloire this time. funny how the best 6 point guards in the nba all play out west.

    jose calderon is a better player then both devin harris and jameer nelson. there I said it:P

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Apparently Wally Szczerbiak is upset that he got snubbed.

  • http://phoenixsunsrising.blogspot.com/ Hersey

    It sux that Nash won’t play but there isn’t a compelling argument to put him in over anyone. David West seems like a stretch but I can’t argue with the team because of injuries to players I’d like to see.

    As for the East, it seems like Orlando is getting rewarded for winning while Boston is not. I hate that logic though. Solid players on good teams get rewarded in the playoffs.

  • king of 2k9

    cosign hersey

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Not that i ever intended to agree with nbk about his D-West bias, but West over Jefferson? Really. Wow, this year’s allstar voting process was very controversial.

  • Joey

    Hey dwest didnt ask to be put in instead of melo or jefferson. He just comes in and plays hard. Melo is injured so they didnt want to risk it, and jefferson is on a losing team (even tho they real good this year) Just stop complaining

  • Michael

    Man the coaches may be even worst than fans. David West, really. Rashard Lewis, realy PaulPierce over Ray allen. Nobody has gotten more acolades averaging 19pts on 40% shooting than Paul Pierce.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Please, STOP talking about David West not making it. David West is SO much better than Shaq its not even funny. Talk about Shaq dammit!

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Whats all this Ray Allen over Pierce nonsense..Come on, if you had to choose one of those 2, it has to be Pierce…Deron,Melo,Al Jeff, Rondo and Nash can all feel hard done by IMO..Yeah Russ i agree, it will prob be the end of Vince’s all star days..If he ain’t voted by the fans, i can’t see too many coaches pulling for his selection

  • BostonBaller

    OK, 1st of all it’s just a game and we’re all going to watch it regardless of who is in it. lol. #1 Shaq should be there b/c he is playing at a high level, his numbers are about the same as Jefferson’s w/out being the focal point of the team as Jefferson is(check stats), Shaq is entertaining AND the game is in Phoenix.Plus Shaq shares the pts and rbs with Amare’. #2 Ray’s numbers are similar to R Lewis’ & J Johnsons’even though Ray is the 3rd option and he is more fun to watch (last years REAL ASG MVP) #3 I would rather see Durant than D West for entertainment purposes but West’s numbers are close to Durants’ & jeffersons’ #4 VC has the numbers and is way more entertaining than Pierce. #5 Bosh & Granger have numbers on their side but again, thay get the lions share of the offense therefore their numbers are slightly inflated. #6 Since I’d take VC and can’t have 2 Nets I’d have to take Rondo ove Harris plus Rondo needs a bone thrown his way for keeping 3 future HOFers happy AND more than holding his own versus other PG’s (Nelson included) Which would you want on your team, Nelson or Rondo? Be honest with YOURSELF…lol. I love to watch AI but to be honest I’m not sure if he should even be on the team let alone starting,his numbers are slightly under Nelson, Rondo & Harris AND identical to Mo Williams. I don’t hear anyone complaining about AI, all I hear is Shaq Shaq Shaq…I can’t believe Orlando has 3 players in the game. T. Crook

  • will

    wat about deron williams he been getting busy

  • Michael

    Ray is having a better season then Pierce is by far. Truth is he had a better finals as well but people were mesmerized by Pierces game one Heroics and gave him the MVp.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Yeah i’ wouldn’t have Nelson and Lewis in there, but i don’t agree with Vince over Pierce (no dis to VC)..Finals MVP and top notch 4th quarter man offensively and defensively, Pierce deserves a spot.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Did you watch the entire playoffs Michael..When Ray was struggling, Pierce was carrying the bulk of the backcourt load at both ends..He should be there for that alone.

  • Michael

    Yeah but it’s finals MVp. ANd Ray Allen had an excellent finals. Paul Averagerd 19 5 and 4 on 40% shootin. If they gave it for the entire palyoffs then Paul should have won, and Kobe would have two as well but they don’t.

  • vmcb

    David West???? are you kidding me???

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    But this is a debate over all star selection not who should be MVP, IMO Pierce has done more in the playoffs, finals and this year to warrant a birth over Ray Ray..Just my opinion

  • Jose

    Rashard and West are shockers to me personally. I Understand why melo’s not in and nash hasnt been nash.kidd hasnt really grabbed my attention . VC Maybe shuldve been invited and to me i dont go against ray ray being in or not

  • Nick the Great

    I don’t have a problem with West per say. But it is utter garbage that Melo isn’t on the list.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    West doesn’t shock me too much, there wouldn’t be too much for a coach not to like bout his game, but Lewis caught me off gurad though..

  • Todd Spehr

    Russ, to answer your MVP/prime/Nash question, the only similar I could find was Bob McAdoo – even though he won just one MVP (in ’75), he didn’t play in an All-Star game after the age of 26, which would classify as his prime.

  • drose1

    anyone for Derrick rose all star 2010???

  • http://www.http://courtsidebasketball.blogspot.com/ stu

    i agree that it is gona be weird with no kidd and nash, but moreso without vince.. the only change (apart from west/jefferson – nbk, you got me) for me would be carter or durant instead of rashard lewis, but i guess their record helps. i’m gona have to call the diesel for MVP – hometown, kobe’s gona play to him, and he’s rejuvinated.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    The VC of today is better than the VC of old. He’s more dangerous at the end of games, and nigh unguardable when he feels like it. But All-Star games – let’s face it – are as much a popularity contest as they are about ability, so that’s a no go for VC the chucker of fadeaways. Plus the Nets are pretty mediocre, which is why the coaches didn’t pick him.

  • Jesse Bielasiak

    DG33 ALL THE WAYYYYYYY!!!!!

    Batcave earned

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Yeah Joel, IMO Vince has only made the last few ’cause the fans picked him, i don’t think the coaches would’ve. The starting picks are a popularity contest, but the bench picks are legit..

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Damn, Vince had two of the most spectacular game winners this season, is scoring at an efficient clip, and hasn’t lost much vert, but coaches didn’t want half man/half amazing? Sad to see how the man’s bad press is sinking him in public opinion. Oh and 3 O-Town boys is…. i’m speechless at that nonsense. RAY ALLEN GOT ROBBED!

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Also, the “David West sucks sans CP3″ argument is stupid. Does Amare suck without Nash? Malone without Stock? Did KG lead a decade-long failure of a career before his first title? No.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    IMO Vince has a bad rep with coaches for his diva like antics at the end of his Toronto days..The dude played like a busted ass for a couple of ‘injury’ plagued years then went to Jersey and could magically jump out of the gym again..Personally i like watchin him get up, but i’m far from surprised coaches would rather Granger, joe Johnson or Paulie p.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @jaymes: Yup, the bench picks were legit for the most part, all right. Granger and Devin Harris? Well deserved.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Definately..no dis to the guys that missed out, but both those guys have had great years.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    And, well, I know I should be defending my Toronto guy Bosh, but there’s no reason why Jefferson should be left off the squad if Bosh is an All-Star, based on what they’ve done for their respective teams this year. But which forward *would* you take off that stacked Western bench?

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Good question..Pau or West prob, again both guys have had good years too..Someone is always gonna be p(ssed at the selections..Deron for eg.?

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Darksaber: Like the game-winning buzzer beating alley oop against the Raps that ripped out the hearts of the entire ACC? That was cold.

  • BostonBaller

    Shake just dunked it so hard the backboard moaned…Turn on the game if you dislike the Shaq choice and hopefully he changes your mind. lol

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Well Deron missed a whole bunch of games, and Utah’s hovering barely above .500… I think I’ve got no problems at all with the Western bench, but it’s pretty puzzling really why there are 3 Orlando players on the Eastern squad and only 2 Celtics. There really honestly shouldn’t be more than 2 from each team. And Turk > Rashard.

  • Witness

    What about carmelo? he was playing at a high level before he got hurt.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Yeah can’t answer that one bout Orlando..Sorry i was referring to Deron over the past 3 years more than just this year alone, he’s been bloody unlucky not to have been an all star already…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-Sign Michael 9:57
    Deron Williams should be an All-Star too..

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Okay, the fact is, there are so many good players right now in the league, that is really, really hard to leave any one of them out, especially in the Western conference. You can really make a case for a dozen of players right now.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Waitaminute. Deron still hasn’t played in an ASG? That’s a travesty.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    With that being said:
    Shaq should not be an All-Star.

  • clapzilla

    David West Is Having A Horrible Year By His Standards. I Have No Idea Why The Coaches Would Even Consider Him. Also, Melo Is Now The Anti-Vince Carter. Carter Always Played Really Good Before The All-Star Game And Was Named A Starter, Then Wasn’t As Good After The All-Star Game. Melo’s Always Got Something Keeping Him Out of The All-Star Game, But Then Plays His Best Basketball After The Break. Its A Bit Annoying.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Dunno if West is having a horrible year..True bout Melo though, dam shame he ain’t there….And Yeah its criminal Joel!

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Teddy, i’d rather have Shaq than Yao..

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Well regardless, the ingredients are all here for what hopefully turns out to be a competitive ASG and not another meaningless dunkfest blowout. The East is really top-heavy with KG, Flash, Superman and Lebron. But its reserves, on a second thought, include Orlando’s 2nd and 4th option, as well as lone stars on lame duck teams (Bosh, Granger, Harris). The Western squad, on the other hand, does not have a single player whose team isn’t playoff bound.

  • je708

    david west last year he earned it no question, this year not quite

  • front office daddy

    love to see that many first timers

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Sounds like a recipe for an eastern win, right Joel O’s? :-)

  • T Money

    Maybe we can get Andrew Bynum to break Rashard Lewis’s rib?

  • T Money

    And David West earned his spot after stroking Dirk’s chin in the playoffs last year. That was straight gangsta.

  • T Money

    Perhaps next year the NBA should consider a 30 man rotation…

  • T Money

    And I realise this thread is pretty much done, but I’m sho nuff not waking up at 1am to post comments on SlamOnline

  • http://kb24.com Bigi

    If healthy…Melo and DWill would be in the game…As much as I love Allen Iverson,he’s gonna pass the torch to Rose next year…IF Rose keeps gettin’ better.

  • lakers4life

    WOW.CANT WAIT.PHIL KOBE AND SHAQ REUNITED.AWKWARD.

  • rikson

    Im really happy for west. Most of you guys seem to forget that players like Al or Durant are the the main offensive guys on their squad, while the hornets have much more talent (especially on offense) on their roster. Plus the coaches wont always take the best player but the one that will fit their system best. Also props for Harris and Granger. Danny has had a great year thus far and earned his spot – no doubt!

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    system? On all star sunday?

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    @Bigi….:i hope Rose doesn’t reseive the torch from AI. Basically i hope he gets nothing from him…Rose has potential to be a good player…
    @Russ(8:18pm)….:nice point…

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    We got AI but at least we didn’t get Melo…next year everything will be better: no AI & TMac, Durant making his first as a starter!!

  • buggsie7_aus

    David West should not be on the squad, there are three other forwards that deserve the spot over him. Carmelo, Al Jefferson and Durrant all deserve to be there instead of West.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    best players to be left out of the East(in order):Allen,Carter,Tourkoglou.
    best players to be left out of the West(also in order):
    D.Williams,Durant,Nash.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    tell somebody at the beggining of the 2008 season that a healthy Nash won’t be a part of the 2009 All-Star game in Phoenix!!!!

  • http://fdklf.com Jukai

    David god damn West? Are you serious?

  • Blinguo

    Granger then why no Jefferson(West instead), in terms of records and who is killin’ it? Milsap’s numbers are at/above David Lee without D’Antoni system(the reason those TV guys say no Lee -then again Granger 14th, 2nd to last in East), although 9th in West – he piled up the double doubles in Boozer’s absence almost at Marcus Camby’s clip this year. (Fantasy beasts no doubt) No Nash = even with Philly’s resurgence come back, no Andre Miller ever, (Iggy maybe in a year or two) maybe due to already 2 PHX players – but can’t give a reason for Philly other than yes, record but still 7th in East. Top 8 = playoffs. No representatives. (NYC only percentage points behind Milwauk-no-Yi for 8th) And Jersey stinkin’ it up behind NYC ups and downs, again if they go with “winners, teams with winning records.” But who knows when the deadlines they turned these votes in by. Early season? Last month?

  • dwyane

    vince carter?

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    PV- Why do you like Durant…but not Anthony? Personal preference? Or game compatabiliyy?

  • Manumaniac

    NBA All Star Game sucks! I mean, it really sucks, man! It’s all set up and nothing more. Last year Ginobili was left out and so was D-Will, but they were both chosen to an All-NBA Team. Considering this, I believed that this year the coaches would not make the same mistakes again. I mean if Ginobili didn’t make it last year, then how come Tony Parker did it this year? Is it because he’s married to Eva Longoria or what? Tony Parker, an All-Star… What a joke! What about David West and Jameer Nelson? Turkoglu deserved it more than Jameer and that’s a fact! NBA ASG is only about marketing, nothing more…

  • L

    Paul Millsap for West
    Al J for Shaq
    VC for Lewis

    L

  • Blinguo

    Baron Davis had much more claim to an All Star spot than Tony Parker last year(Or Roy whom had Rookie-Soph game which was enough), in case you forgot. But you’re both Manu-and-Maniacal so I won’t get into any nonsense debates. (Agree that the TV jokers like Eva Longoria way too much, like she became the new JKidd’s wife to cut to all the time. Played out, ya 5’2″ no body, facepainted makeup ABC actress.)

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    Ugh, I can’t believe Kobe made it. Are you kidding me? ;)

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Vince deserved it over Rashard. Al Jefferson deserved it over West. I’m happy for Billups, Roy, Harris, Granger.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    @Hursty….:i DEMAND from a perimeter player to be a really good shooter in order for him to be considered great. LeBron is not a good shooter but he is super-human athletically and he really has game….Melo has great offensive moves but is not a very good shooter he is poor defensively and i don’t like his overall style-character(Magic is the only perimeter guy that i consider really great without being a great shooter but he had game like no other one in my opinion,was one of the greatest leaders ever and many other things that makes me have him top-5 all time easily)..on the other hand Durant seems like a little child that is just passionate about playing bball and becoming a complete player (maybe this is my wrong perception) but most of all the fact that he can really shoot the ball while being practically 6-11 and moving around the flour with the smoothness of a guard has me thinking that this guy has a real chance to present as something we haven’t seen up to now in basketball (something like an athletic Larry Bird or a combination of Garnett and Reggie).

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    PV: Your ramblings take on a whole different life from time to time. LeBron is great, regardless of what you think of his jumper. He is also a leader. Melo can shoot, i’m not exactly sure who you are watching. We all know of his defensive shortcomings. As for Durant: yes, he will be very good, but I would stop short of comparing his game to greats like Garnett, Bird, and Reggie at this point. Give the kid a chance to develop.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Well, Carmelo has arguably one of the top 5 mid-range games in the NBA along with Rip Hamilton and Kevin Martin, so does that count? He’s not an elite 3ball shooter, but he’s more than proficient.
    What about Wade- below average from 3, but his game (apart from that) is amazing.
    ps- I wouldn’t call Melo strictly a perimeter player because his game from the middle block is fu*king unstoppable- especially that jab and fade away move.
    He’s the same height as LeBron btw. Durant is barely a centimetre taller than either he’s not even 6’10).
    And he’s a 3 who’s been playing the 2 because Westbrook wasn’t around and they had Green playing the 3…now both are playing their natural 3 and 4 spots and it shows in their games.

  • Manumaniac

    @Blinguo…: Never said that Baron Davis didn’ t deserve to be in the All Star Game last year or the year before. Of course he deserved to be in New Orleans and Las Vegas! Baron Davis should be a perennial All-Star and he proved that two years ago at the Playoffs! And that’s what I’m saying: it’s awkward that Baron has 2 All-Star (2002, 2004) appearances and Ginobili just one (2005), the same time that Tony Parker has three already (2006, 2007, 2009) and still counting… Don’t judge me by my nickname, all I’m saying is that Baron Davis, Manu Ginobili, Deron Williams, even Elton Brand are players who always get snubbed at the All Star Game and that really disturbs me! Especially, when you consider the fact that whenever Tony Parker averages more than 18 points, he always makes the All Star Team. That’s ridiculous!

  • J.B

    david west? over big al?
    bs…stupidos

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    Durant has a standing reach of a guy 6-11(maybe even taller) and that makes him (for basketball purposes) “practically” (as i wrote) 6-11. Wait a few years with Durant,i cannot guarantee anything but i think that he will be the best player in the world in 3 years time(if Lebron doesn’t fix his shoot which he propably will not,doesn’t have enough time to do so,his body doesn’t help him now either…)

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    Tony Parker is top-15 in the world and for this he deserves to be in this game (like Manu, Deron,Nash,Allen…)

  • Manumaniac

    Tony Parker is a very good player, don’t get me wrong on that, but he’s not one of the top-15 players in the world. The guy goes as long as Duncan allows him to go. He’s never accomplished anything outside the San Antonio Spurs. He’s never lead his national team to a big success (like Pau Gasol, Manu Ginobili, even Dirk Nowitzki). He’s always mediocre in (inter)national competition basketball. He deserved to be in the All Star Game back in 2007. But three All Star appearances are way too many for a player like Tony Parker. Remember: Deron hasn’t been picked even once!

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    Deron is better than Parker(basically he is the best PG in the world and second best in the NBA to CP). Parker hasn’t achieved anything worldwide as you correctly say but he did so when he played with good teammates(Spurs). France ain’t Argentina by the way…On the other hand he is so unstopable-efficient offensively when he wants(as demonstrated at the begining of the season) that i see him as better version of AI in his prime: ,unstopable with the ball BUT more efficient, more coachable,and generally knowing when to call his number and when not (AI never figured that out…).

  • Manumaniac

    No disagrees on that. I’ll say it again: Tony Parker is a very good player, one of the best scoring point-guards in the game today. But, in my opinion, he’s not a player that should have 3 All Star appearances. All I’m saying is this: there are some guys that the NBA “loves” them and some guys that the NBA “hates” them. The NBA “loves” Tony Parker and “hates” Manu Ginobili. And here is the proof: Tony Parker made the All Star Team back in 2006 and 2007 when he had an average of 18.9 and 18.6 points respectively but Ginobili didn’t make it last year when he had 19.5 points. Can you explain me how did that happen? I’m sure you can imagine the reason (what’s up Eva, star system). After all, it’s obvious you have knowledge of the game.

  • jerseyboy

    Devin deserves it.For all the people that think Rondo should’ve made it over him.Put Rondo on the Nets and see how good he is, he would be playin off the bench for Dooling.Anybody can run the point in Btown with all that talent and he still can’t average 10 assists.

  • Blinguo

    Its all good Manumaniac, I wanted to stop any disagreements before they started(not that there would have been any, just made sure none happened) by joking along like so with your name which is all I can go on.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Darksaber: Yes indeed. Hah.

  • BostonBaller

    NEWS FLASH: Years ago we would have been fighting about who got snubbed out of a starting spot at every position (EAST & WEST) That is how deep the league used to be. B. King, L. Bird, M. Johnson J. Erving, D. Wilkins etc etc. Now we fight over who should fill the bench, the bench used to be filled with legit 1st teamers. lol. Parity or lack of talented fundamentals.

  • Bballrehab

    Not hating on TP, but him being an all-star while Nash is not sounds like a joke.

  • Bballrehab

    I just realized Deron is out as well. Oh well, what did I expect? Isn’t A.I. (and god knows how much I like A.I.)a starter in the East in what can be considered the worst season of his career?

  • Biz

    damn…nice to see that VC still got love

  • Fred

    B*llsh*t! West over Melo and Shaq over Big Al. Wow the coach know nothing about basketball. OK maybe Shaq because it in Phoenix but West, common! He never appear in any All-Star discussion.

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  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    BBall rehab TP is having the best season of his career while Nash is how he was in Dallas. And Deron has been at 60% for like 75% of the season

  • MeloMan13

    Ok im from Toronto and i agree Vc definately got snubbed. and how does Orlando have 3 All-stars and Boston only has two. last i checked the C’s had the best record and ray allen deserves it.
    now to the Melo factor. i kno dude has missed a third of the season but common… David West?!?. hes gud and all but hes not having a gud year and Melo got snubbed his first 2 yrs. he shud have the perenial All-star staus by now no matter what

  • MeloMan13

    u cant tell me that ther is not one All-star small forward in the western confrence. they need to change this voting thing. even with missing a third of the season I’d say Melo is having a better year than Amare. Amare is the third most important player on his team.
    MELO!MELO!MELO!MELO! i hope someone gets injured so he can take wat is rightfully his…although it should have never come to this in the first place

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Melo has been injured….and the fans voted amare, but your showing real dedication

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    Melo is past his prime. Sorry…

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    So’s LBJ and Wade..Oh and Kobe..

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    jaymes is wayyyy before his prime….!!!!

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Ouch, saucer of milk for alphabet! Did i read correctly? Did you give AI a wrap before in a round about kinda way? Don’t know if it was this post, but i’m sure i saw it somewhere…

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    I think i read that Durant will be the best player in the world in 3 years…Slight exaggeration? And Melo can’t shoot? Your rollin today p.v!

  • Tyquan

    Milk carton: Ray Allen and Carmelo Anthony. The Celtics should be the only team in the L to have three All Stars if that’s what it is but not Orlando. Don’t have time to debate on who is less deserving Nelson or Lewis cause Ray was more consistent this year than he was last year. I might be different since I believe that the NBA should reward teams for winning a championship when it comes to the all star game. In Melo’s case hell yeah he should have made it over Gasol or David West but Gasol would have made it last year if he would been with LA from the jump its like this Gasol was gonna be an all star no matter what for whatever reason. David West is that dude but if you base it on numbers and team success for me the Nuggets and Hornets are on da same level overall with a slight edge to Denver because of their bench to be honest having Melo playing the way he was before the injury made Billups transition a little smoother. Not to say CB7 got selected of the strenghth of Melo but Denver could have had two All Stars in the West since everything is based on first half of the season type success or whatever.?! Can’t wait to see Shaq’s pull up jumper from the top of the key make it or miss it he’s entertaining as hell!

  • DruWil

    Somebody please explain to me, how the hell did AI make it to the ASG? I never thought I would say this but AI doesn’t deserve to play at this year’s ASG period. David Lee and Ray Ray deserved to be there. And Pau Gasol? Really? Melo is playing 1000 times better than him right now and oh, I’ll take Kevin Durant over David West anytime anyday.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    ^not a real fan, just casual

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    @DruWil…..:”somebody please explain me how the hell AI..” well, in this forum we just have three words: IT’S THE KIDS !!!! and since one of our little friends is right now with us(jaymes!!!) you can ask him straight for an explanation!!!!

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    It is better then China getting their way, they almost voted 4 players as starters in teh all star game. 3 in one conference…fan voting is BS

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    IVERSON!!!T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!!T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!! T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!!T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!!T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!!T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!!T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!! T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!!T-MAC!!!!IVERSON!!!T-MAC!!!!

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Tracy McGrady’s votes came from China you silly European

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    I dont vote pv, and i don’t think AI should be in either..I just don’t have the same hatred for him that you do.. and i told you i’m 14 and 9 months, that means i’m an adolescent!

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    It could have been worse my little friend: IVERSON’S votes came from Disneyland!!!!

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Seriously though pv, Why the AI hate?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    He is European

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    @jaymes….:so why didn’t you like my comment about your prime…?? you have already peaked at 14…??? in that case it is you and Nadia Comaneci!!!!!

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Who said i didn’t like it? I thought it was cute..

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    i guess you know why….(its that secret affair with my mum that you talked about the other day!!!!)

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    So he didn’t shoot your dog then? Thats a relief..

  • Fred

    By the way, Melo score 33 in a quarter this year!!! He should be a All-Star just for that. I can’t even do that in a video game.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ Panagiotis Vasilopoulos

    it was difficult for him to shoot a dog….

  • MeloMan13

    @ Fred: 100% agree. ONE other player in the history of the league did that.
    I officially hate all curent western confrence coaches

  • clapzilla

    It’s A Disgrace That Manu Has Only Been To One All-Star Game, But Parker’s Going To His Third! France Sucks, Argentina Dominates, Parker Owes Everything To Pop, Manu Is Crazy Anywhere You Put Him.

    And PV, Quit Hating On Melo! Dude Was Playing With One Arm All Season, Then He Got His Hand Busted, Then Scored 15 Points With A Broken Hand!

  • Caleb

    David West deserves it purely for the 40 & 11 he dropped on the Lakers.

  • Caleb

    @Fred: “I can’t even do that in a video game.”

    You must not be very good at video games!

  • Caleb

    @Fred: “I can’t even do that in a video game.”

    You must not be very good at video games!

  • DruWil

    I don’t hate AI either. I just thought that All Stars should include players that are playing the best basketball at the break and clearly AI doesn’t fit that criteria. But hey, its the NBA. It’s all about marketing, it’s all about making money and it’s all about the hype.

  • WhiteOut

    WORST ALL STAR RESERVES EVER!!!

  • floe

    fvck that! where’s starbury ?

  • KoBynum716

    al jefferson over david west

  • Fred

    @Caleb: I can beat you eye close! OK maybe not eye close. But I can beat you. It would be interesting to play against each other!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Danny Granger was no stranger to danger!

  • skeme

    Ray Allen is one of the best shooters in NBA history!! I mean, I’d rather pick Ray Allen over Devin Harris.Ray Allen is one of the best of the bests is what I’m really trying to say. GOSSHH!!!

  • nathan

    nash needed to be in, as well as vince, i would wanna see ray allen in their.

    who cares about david west or al jerfferson. they both suck.
    haha.
    melo did need to be in the game tho.

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