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Wednesday, January 21st, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  52 responses

Rip Hamilton Calmly Heads to the Bench

by Marcel Mutoni

As it turns out, there was no need to worry about which Piston starter would become a sixth man. Michael Curry asked Rip to come off the bench, and his veteran shooting guard accepted the demotion with nothing but class and grace.

From the Detroit News:

“A lot of people have made a lot of things about this,” Hamilton said. “Regardless, you want to win games. Me and Allen both know that. They told me I was coming off the bench, that it was something MC (Curry) wanted and I said, ‘Fine, cool.’

“The bottom line is you want to win games. If this is the best way we can win a championship, then I am all for it. The thing is, we have two great scorers, me and A.I. We have to figure out how both of us can be our best.”

The move will allow Detroit to start with a bigger lineup – a strategy that netted them eight wins in ten tries while Hamilton was out with a groin injury – and not be at a disadvantage on the boards and defensively.

Will Rip stay cool, and give the Pistons get a deadly scorer off the bench heading into the second half of the season and towards the postseason? As always, stay tuned to find out.

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  • Ken

    The real question is what the Pistons do this offseason. Do they keep AI and Sheed, or go for the cap space? Pistons aren’t making ECF this year. It was a good streak, but its done.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    It’s not even All Star break yet and we are questioning the offseason? I’m not sure why I even bother sometimes.

  • http://www.alloutblitz.com cordeazy

    The Billups trade will haunt me forever

  • http://fdklf.com Jukai

    Co-sign Ken, mainly to piss off TAD.

  • http://www.nba.com iLL wiLL

    AI was a mistake.

  • Andy

    A mistake? Really? Detroit won 8 of 10, including 7 straight, whilst Rip was out. Now, the Pistons can get that starting 5 back, AND they have a 18-20 point-a-game guy they can bring off the bench. I wouldn’t be ruling them out of anything just yet.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Andy is smart.

  • Andy

    In fact, I’d go as far as to say that Detroit – in Stuckey and AI – have the most talented starting backcourt in the Eastern Conference. If those two can light it up, then I think they can give anyone in the conference a match-up. It’s what the frontcourt does that will mould the Pistons’ season.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Ok, Andy is also a bit dramatic. Talent wise, I can agree with what you said. Chemistry and overall results wise, it just hasn’t panned out that way yet. Regardless, with those two players and Rip, the Pistons backcourt is extremely talented. So yes, the frontcourt will determine Detroit’s finish this season. I’m looking at you Tay, Sheed, Dice, Amir, and Maxiell.

  • http://fdklf.com Jukai

    Andy is smart Smart enough not to mention the five game losing streak that Detroit had against some juggernauts like The Bobcats, the Pacers, and the almighty Thunder. Oh, and they had a full lineup.

  • Andy

    TAD, yes, I said talent-wise. And I did say “if” they could light it up. Jukai, I’m pretty certain their recent losing streak coincided with Curry trying to play small ball by accommodating Rip, AI and Stuckey…and the ugly sight of Tay playing at power forward. My point is that the starting 5 of Amir, Sheed, Tay, AI and Stuckey will do a lot better than a starting 5 of Sheed (undersized centre), Tay (vastly undersized PF), Rip, AI and Stuckey.

  • Pawelczyk

    Yeah, I wonderd why Detroit lost to those teams……Juggernauts???? LMAO….DUMBASS

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    And after all of that Jukai, the Suns and the Pistons have the same amount of wins.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m with you Andy. Regardless of what lineup they employ, they need someone to stepup and be the unqestioned leader.

  • ENDS

    Rip is a better human than me. Id go kicking and screaming

  • http://fdklf.com Jukai

    @TAD, if I had a choice of being a Suns fan or Pistons fan right now, I’d choose the latter every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I was watching a Suns game about half a month ago, and I’m watching Dee Brown, Matt Barnes, Grant Hill, Louis Amudson and Shaq… and I’m asking myself, what the hell is this? Where are the Suns I love? I immediately ran upstairs and kissed my Nash/Johnson/Richardson/Marion/Amare poster and whispered in its ear that it would be alright.
    @Andy: if that’s your point, then I VASTLY agree. AI, Sheed, Amir, Tay, and Stuckey is a sick lineup that’ll go far.
    That being said, I still don’t like Rip on the team. I think there will be fourth quarter collapses trying to give all the players playing time in the 4th. I think Hamilton will force shots to get his numbers to make him seem valuble off the bench. Sure, Rip’s good enough to iso up and tear apart the lesser team’s benchs, but there are some deep teams that Rip wont be able to score effectively on by himself. Can the bench get Rip in the rhythm through all those screens and pick and rolls? I don’t know. I have my doubts. I’d like to see it work.

  • http://hoops4life.com overtime

    Class and Grace: he dint say, ”cool fine”, a week ago he said ”it aint gunna happen”.
    Also love how he threw everyone not named AI under the bus with his two great scorers remark

  • Pistolen-Peter

    What about bringing Allen-Me-Myself&Iverson off the bench?

    They would be better at the defensive end with Rip and will also have a legitimate scorer coming off the bench in Iverson…
    Besides, he can play both guard positions: bring him along with Stuckey as SG or with Hamilton as PG

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    seems like “a’int gonna happen” ummm, happened. I remember TAD hoping for this last week, as “never been kissed” blabbed about steady rotations, champions of past years etc. Good call Tad.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    if you can say one thing about Rip, it’s that he doesn’t mask his team’s problems.

  • Mendel

    @ ill will, your commenting is a bad mistake.

  • Mendel

    I knew Rip was a true professional

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    rip=microwave ’09. Embrace it Richard

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Devin Harris and Vince Carter are a better back court than Iverson and Stuckey. It’s close, but I think they win. Bibby and Joe Johnson would also like to join the conversation.

  • underdog

    RIP is comin’ for that sixth man award. Better watch your back Jason Terry. Anyway what happened with RIP “ain’t gonna happen” attitude?

  • Candice

    Tad: I hope Sheed of all people wakes up, he’s hard to figure out sometimes. I watched Pistons game before the trade, I didn’t really notice what people was talking about when concerning him. Now I see what Piston fans and the media complain about now .Sometimes he cares and sometimes he doesn’t. Some of the games I caught, it took a ref to make him mad before he did something.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Sheed makes Vince Carter blush.

  • Candice

    I like the way some media outlets (ESPN) conviently left out that Rip didn’t want to come off the bench either and only mention AI .

  • Candice

    Tad:Maybe you can tell me, but what teams does Sheed get get up for? He seem real interested from the tip off in the Laker game and the Orlando game but after that….

  • http://dsfkjl.com Jukai

    This is going to absolutely BLOW everyone’s minds away… but…
    I disagree with Allenp. I think the AI/Stuckey backcourt is better than the Harris/Carter backcourt. AI is just too superior of a player compared to Carter, and from the way Stuckey’s been playing as fo recent (if he can keep it up, that is), I’d say that Harris isn’t that much farther ahead of Stuckey.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m not sure Sheed “gets up” for any team in particular. I think it depends on whether he got Ranch dressing with his wings or what ref is doing the game. Sheed is a very spiritual person and looks at where the moon and the stars are lined up that day as well.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Someone else is using Jukai’s name right now. I’m convinced of this.

  • http://dsfkjl.com Jukai

    With Stuckey and AI, you got superior ball movement and defense (At least AI’ll get you some steals. Harris and Carter wont do squat). What do you have with the Harris/Carter one two in Jersey… a slightly more varied offense?

  • Candice

    Wow Jukai, I thought I’ll never see this day.

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    Damn, Allenp at 12:30 beat me to it.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Rip-chard Hamilton is a cool dude.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    How come you people don’t mention Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen in the “best backcourt” talk? They should obviously be considered in that category.

  • wilz

    The expression “throwing [them] under the bus” is fast becoming the most overused around the NBA..

    if Rip can be Manu of last year’s spurs then its all good.

  • http://www.bbl.org.uk Josh D

    How can move involving AI starting give a team a bigger lineup?

  • whooo!

    coaches all over the league should be thanking popovich and ginobili. it’s one thing to ask a player to come off the bench, but when there’s a blatant example of an all-star caliber player who has been coming off the bench on another team, that’s a lot more pressure for the player for the player being asked to do so willingly. remember years ago when iverson refused to come off the bench after coming back from injury?

  • matt

    rip will go to utah for boozer at the deadline. d-will and rip will be the best backcourt in the league.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Iverson for Elton Brand and Reggie Evans. Both teams win. Philly gets a Dalembert-Thad Young-Iggy-Iverson-Andre Miller lineup, Detroit gets a Sheed-EB Games-Tay Tay-Rip-Stuckey lineup with another big man for the bench. Everybody wins.

  • http://fdsklf.com Jukai

    Matt: Actually a damn good trade

  • JE

    I agree with Matt’s trade idea as well, considering Boozer has all but confirmed he’s not going to stay in Utah.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Harris is underrated on defense. I’ve seen him put the clamps on Iverson, and I’ve seen him abuse Iverson on the other end. Then, Carter is still a beast when he wants to be and he’s having a better year than Iverson right now. Don’t know if he’s a better player, but he’s having a better year.
    I like Harris and Carter better. Harris more consistent than Stuckey.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    BET
    No way Dumars takes on Elton Brand’s contract. And there is no way Utah trades an all-star big man for a shooting guard on the decline. (Sorry Tad, but it’s true.)

  • Tower

    @Betcats. And you really think philly dare to take the iverson train again, because if it wasn’t for that, it would make sense.

  • JE

    Allenp
    under normal circumstances, I’d agree that Utah wouldn’t trade Booze for Rip, but he’s out of there once free agency rolls around, and Detroit is one of the only teams that would be willing to give anything for him. It could happen.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    When I first saw this thread title I thought it read hamilton heads to the BEACH…

  • melvin ely

    @Allen: Actually if trading Booze for a declining SG would mean unleashing the beast that is Millsap, I’m all for it

  • http://www.kayceonline.com/blog/ Kevin

    pretty interesting trade ideas being tossed around.. but i can’t say the Billups/Iverson trade was a bad one – the Pistons as we knew it needed to be blown up one way or another, and i’m assuming there weren’t too many other options on the board for Dumars to make that move.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Why would you trade Boozer for Hamilton, when you could probably get a player on the upside of his career? If I wanted a wing for Boozer, I’d look for an up and coming wing, not an aging jumpshooter. They already have a shooter in Korver, they need an effective total scorer to pair with Williams and Rip isn’t that guy.

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