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Tuesday, January 6th, 2009 at 11:00 am  |  274 responses

T-Mac: ‘I’m Going to Have the Last Laugh’

by Marcel Mutoni

A torrent of criticism made its way towards Tracy McGrady following a road loss to the Toronto Raptors this past Friday. It had a lot to do with his effort in the game (or lack thereof) – check out the clip of the game highlights, and peep the sequence beginning at the 1:30 mark when Tracy lets Jamario Moon walk right by him for an uncontested dunk – and how tough it is for the Rockets to deal with his situation.

According to McGrady, the press and fans can criticize all they want; shoot, he’ll even join in:

“I criticize myself,” McGrady said Monday. “I can take it from anybody, from everybody. I know my ability. And when I do get right, all that … is put to rest. So kick me when I’m down, because I swear to you, I’ll be back up. And when I get back up, I’m going to sit back, and I’m going to laugh, man, because I’m going to have the last laugh. Right now, I’m down. I’m physically down.”

One person who Mac isn’t getting any sympathy from is his coach, who thinks Tracy could be going a little harder in games and practice:

“That’s what he has to do,” Adelman said. “He has to be aggressive no matter what. The other night, we were playing poorly as a team, and he became very unaggressive. He can’t play that way, (or) he’s not going to get through it or out of it, and we aren’t going to be any good…Like I told him today, ‘There’s going to be times you’re going to succeed and times you’re going to fail, but that shouldn’t have an effect on how hard you play. You have to play through the good times and the bad times.’”

McGrady says it’s not over for him, and that the criticism only serves as motivation. It all sounds true and sincere, but one can hardly be blamed for having a tough time buying into it.

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  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Mentally, Tracy has checked out. Damn shame.

  • http://slamonline.com Tzvi T

    T-Mac has been looking like he ate one to many Big Macs as of late.

  • ab_40

    I feel bad for the guy I hope he get’s a little more healthy before the season ends. If he’s only 75% the rockets are contenders again. now? I thinks he’s at 30 especialy with the injuries stuck in his head

  • http://fdsjlkf.com Jukai

    He may have the LAST laugh, but as the owner of him on my fantasy team, I’m having the right-now cry

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    I feel like this isn’t the first time Tracy’s talked about having the last laugh. And that’s great and all, but why be satisfied with laughing last? Dude shoud have been laughing his whole career. It’s kind of depressing, actually.

  • Mendel

    Yeah the lasat laugh is when some buys that ugly mercades from him.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Ryan: “No you are f*cking not.”

  • http://thesportsdiaryonline.blogspot.com Roy

    Co-sign Russ.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    He may laugh again, but I wouldn’t bet on a “last laugh”. The Rockets will have to get really lucky to even get homecourt in the west. I’m really beginning to wonder if T Mac will ever be healthy again. He just doesnt put the neccessary time and effort into rehabbing. The injuries he has won’t just go away any time soon, he has to work through them.

  • Mendel

    when I down and then get up is copy writed by Wade, he now owes some roalities in my opinion

  • http://www.hoopmixtape.com Simon S.Y Lawy

    who’s fault ?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Mac’s eye ain’t the only thing about him that’s lazy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    “The Big Sleep” now makes more sense as a nickname.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    i beat you to it. hahahahahahahahaha

  • Jas

    This reminds me of Penny and his declarations of revenge – we all know how that went. Tmac’s kidding himself, he’ll never regain the athleticism he once possessed and dominate in the NBA like he once did.

  • Codeman

    You get paid alot of money to play a game and go hard every night…….boo hoo

  • Fred34

    “He who laughs last, laughs best – and only has to play D every other Tuesday ” :)

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    It’s been proven times and times again in sports : intensity is not something you can switch on and off. Rasheed, Vince, T-Mac are guys that think they can switch it on whenever they feel like it. All 3 guys are aprt of the NBA elite but they still are having disappointing careers in regard to their basketball abilities.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    What Mac needs is a sport psychologist. Giving your all on every single play is mentally draining (morese than physically, those guys are freak athletes). Coasting is a natural behavior when something seems easy, pro athletes need to fight that tendency in order to excel.

  • Plasticman

    No, nobody is laughing or going to be laughing Mr Mac. Unless you mean when thinking back over your career and you start to cry that way when people cry but it kinda looks like you’re laughing but you’re not laughing you’re actually crying. Yeah, that’s it…

  • riggs

    im laughing right now

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    another day on slamonline, another day full of vince and tmac hate.

  • http://danchamb.com.br/Home/ Lz – Cphfinest3

    Hello fellas, just a quick Q. When I click the SLAM facebook link on the top of the site. I just want me to log in, when I do that I just goes to my own facebook-site. Isn’t there some SLAM stuff on there?

  • http://phoenixsunsrising.blogspot.com Hersey

    He’ll get his last laugh when he starts the All Star game… and shatters on his first dunk attempt.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    Ryan: He still dunked on you, though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Russ is right. Tracy McGrady remains the only player in NBA history to have dunked on me. That’s gotta be worth something.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    the tmac hate is well deserved…i actually just posted something about this last night on hibach(my link)i, along with Tmac trade rumors from a credible source,

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    To be honest, you were sort of just in the vicinity. Sometimes it seems as if that were 25 years ago.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    TMac is basically untradeable, the Rockets won’t give him up without getting someone who can help them win a TITLE, McGrady is consistently hurt and no team will give up their star or best contributor to get him. Orlando is the only realistic option, but the Rockets would have to willing to take on Hedo and Battie. That would be an awkward trade for a squad that just picked up Dikembe. (How many years does Battie have on his contract?) And it does not seem like the Rockets are as interested in cap space as they are in winning. Michael Redd “could” be an option but I don’t think Milwaukee has the right peaces. I do not see what Toronto could give up that the Rockets would want. Sorry for the rant

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    pieces****

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    TMac dunked on Ryan? Was it a donut in his coffee? Details please.

  • http://www.bbl.org.uk Josh D

    What he should of said was “So kick me when I’m down, because I swear to you, I’ll be back up. And when I get back up, i’ll go down again, and when i get back up, i’ll go back down again and so on”

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    T-Mac falls down eight times and gets up seven.

  • Boing Dynasty

    Lawrence Funderburke remains the only player in NBA history to give me a high five while passing me on opposite moving escalators at the Univeristy Square mall in Tampa. So theres that.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Russ just made me laugh. Out loud, even. But yeah, that was back when T-Mac was considered arguably the best player in the League — which was, what, the 1830s?
    Tad: All you need to know is that I dunked on Mac TWICE.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    And Boing’s got me beat. Obviously.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    how was t-mac ever considered the best played in the league? He was at his best while his team was the worst.

  • http://www.alloutblitz.com Cordeazy

    He’s getting the last laugh because he’s getting paid millions of dollars to play basketball. At least, that would be enough to make me laugh last, and first, and everyday. I’m pretty sure I would be incapable to do otherwise.

  • doyouwantmore

    I bet he doesn’t even advance past the first laugh.

  • Tommy Vercetti

    It seems like eons ago when Tracy was competing with Kobe for the title of the best player in the league when he was on the Magic. Now I doubt if he is even a top 10 or 15 player in the league. The injuries have taken a major toll on him.

  • Boing Dynasty

    NBK dont be foolish.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    its not the magic had the worst record in the NBA the season T-Mac had his best year

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Nbk: “Arguably” might be the operative word in that sentence, but regardless, his combination of height, quickness and athleticism made McGrady, at his peak, pretty much completely unguardable. He averaged 32, 7 and 6 on a good (though obviously not great) Orlando team in ’02-03. That was certainly enough to put him in the conversation.

  • Boing Dynasty

    ok? so t mac is Kevin Martin now?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    doyouwantmore WINS.
    And Nbk, obviously, fails. The ’02-03 Magic went 42-40 and almost upset the Pistons in the first round.

  • Boing Dynasty

    Thank you, Ryan.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I does what I can.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    The Magic sucked, but TMac was pretty much unguardable for two years. Unfortunately, he couldn’t give Grant Hill a healthy ankle.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Your right they were 42-40 but he still was not the BEST PLAYER in the NBA. He has never been a great defensive player but once again what can i expect except the people on slam taking an offensive player and making him out to be better then he is. He could have been the best offensive player but best player is booty. He has never been out of the first round, the best player in the NBA does not lose every playoff series they play.

  • Boing Dynasty

    When you decide one day that instead of being a defensive lock down/rebounder type player, you rather just become the best offensive player in the league and the face of a franchise, and it only takes one summer. You cant agrue with that.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    even if he only played in 3 at the time. Would LeBron be in the discussion for best player in the league if he never won a playoff series? how bout dwayne wade? Well thats about the age mcgrady was in 0203

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Reading comprehension is hard for some people.
    I (italicize, underline and bold that pronoun in your head, please) never said Tracy McGrady was the best player in the League. But, at his peak, given his statistical output, he was absolutely one of a very, very small handful of players in the running for that mythical title. You’re free to believe he wasn’t the best player, but if you can’t see that he MIGHT have been the best player, you are a fool.
    “You” being directed at no one in particular, of course.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Would any of you said Dominique Wilkins was the best player in 86? Its no different except that Hawks team actually won a series.

  • Boing Dynasty

    Its very different. Because t mac is not ‘nique, and the ’03 magic are not the ’86 hawks.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    My problem as i say over and over again, just because a guy is great on offense or good on offense does not make him an elite player or the best player, but day after day the media, and contributors on this site and every other sports site try and make cases for one way players as way better then they are.
    Tracy McGrady, Steve Nash, David West to name a few

  • a_whiteman

    Can you get the last laugh if your eliminated before may every year???

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    thats why its a comparison and not a carbon copy

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    That’s a great comparison, seeing as how Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were all playing at or near their prime in 2002-03…

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    would you have said Nique was better then Clyde Drexler? it is the point that just because a guy had a great statistical year does not make him the best player.

  • daveeey

    “tracy… guard somebody!”
    “but my back hurts!”
    rockets lose

  • Boing Dynasty

    True NKB, David West gets waaaay to much credit.

  • Boing Dynasty

    Everyone stop jocking David West. Okay?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    i was taking the most comparitive year from a leading scorer with a team that had similar situation (the hawks were better then the magic), in 02 03 the best player in the NBA was Tim Duncan, then Kobe or KG in no particular order. It is not debatable

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I made a Subway sandwich for Stephen Jackson when he played for the Spurs. Boo ya!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    It occurs to me that maybe Nbk is actually having a conversation with himself.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Wait — it’s not debatable? Cool, everyone can go back to what they were doing (work, school, internet p0rn, whatever) before Slamonline existed. Nbk has definitely and finally answered the “Who, in (sort of) order, were the top three players in the NBA in 2002-03?” question once and for all. Very good. I’ma go wash my cat.*

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    *Note: Ryan does not actually own a cat.

  • Boing Dynasty

    i just figured you meant your vagina.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I call that my joo-joo. But that’s me.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    yeah there you go try and make fun of me, you know i am right, those were the three best players, duncan was the best, you dont have to admit your wrong nobody on here ever does just keep acting like a frustrated teenager.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    NBK is a punk. Its *ALL* debatable. I happen to agree that TD was the best in 02-03 but its not factual. Its impossible to really compare players who are in different (team)situations, but we do it anyway. Also, Nique was better than Clyde.

  • Boing Dynasty

    One on One. Mac vs Duncan? Mac all day. There goes your agrument.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    do you say duncan is the best pf of all time ciolkstar? i know you do, that was duncan’s best or second best year (02 was about equal more scoring less defense and rebounding) it is not debatable. especially if you think duncan is the best pf of all time, plus he was the MVP in 03 and the FINALS mvp. But mcgrady choked a 3-1 lead in the first round. It is not debatable that he was “the best”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I’m 35, homie. I honestly wish I could even remember what it was like to be a frustrated teenager.
    Anyway, can we please go back to talking about my vagina? Because I’ve got work to do, and I need two more hours of distractions to keep from doing it.

  • Boing Dynasty

    you cant be the best player in the world if your game is to limited outside the paint. Plus timmy cant f*cking jump. Hes a great system player.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    yeah boing because the nba plays one on one all the time. that has nothing to do with who is a better player And for the record it would probably depend on who starts with the ball because neither guy can guard the other.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    My vagina has a great first step; Tim Duncan could not guard it.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    you act 35

  • Boing Dynasty

    We get it NBK, you and mac went on a date, you thought it went well. He never called back. Get over it.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Ryan is a comic genius. TD’s probably not the best of all time, maybe the best PF.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Oh, SH*T. That was like Soulja Boy on Ice-T — straight ruthless. I have been well and truly got. Is there no one else here old enough to qualify for half-price movie tickets who can help me out? Anyone?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    good one maybe you should become a comedian

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    i said best pf

  • Boing Dynasty

    Ryan’s vagina is undersized, but makes up for it with neat hair styles, like Chris Anderson.

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    I think Darvin Ham was the best player in the world in 02-03.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    High-top fade, actually. Actually, sort-of low-top… it’s a question of perspective, I guess. This is confusing. Respect your elders’ vaginas!

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I F*ing hate Malone, so yeah I have to ride with Dunacn as the best PF ever. What does “you act like you’re 35″ mean? I honestly have no clue. How old are you NBK?

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    Ryan shaves his joo joo like Scot Pollard shaves.

  • Boing Dynasty

    I could have went with undersized and bumpy like carlos boozer.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Undersized vaginas are my favorite type. Hairstyle is of limited importance, as long as its neat.

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    “you act like your 35″ means you act like an adult. I think NBK is Chukaz.

  • Boing Dynasty

    I think NBK is Tim Duncan

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    And Mo, great call, but you’re off by a few years. Serge Zwicker still has little pieces of glass in his Euro fro from when Darvin ripped that rim off back in the ’96 tourney. And you know why I remember that? Because I’m f*cking OLD.

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    I wonder what Marcel thinks of this thread?

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    Ryan, I remember getting that sports illustrated in the mail.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I remember the Darvin Ham Slam too, I’m only 23 though. He played for Texas Tech, right? I watched hella basketball when I was 11 though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Click on his name, fellas. His blog says he’s 15, which I think makes me guilty of statutory mental cruelty. And you know why I know what “statutory” means? Because I’m f*cking OLD.

  • Boing Dynasty

    Just a Thought: Joey Graham = Darvin Ham 2.0?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Yeah, c-star, if I remember correctly, that dunk inspired them past UNC into the Sweet 16. That Tech team was dope — Ham and Jerryl Sasser, I think? Fun as hell to watch.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    And you know why I remember Jerryl Sasser????

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    ciolkstar, yes, he played for TT. Also, I’m 24 and from central TX. *high five*

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    three things i’m 21 if you must no
    referring to your vagina as the topic you would like to discuss- more of a betcat (16ish) thing to do then a ryan (35) to do
    i played ball with a dude last night whose career was ruined by darvin hamm in college. Hamm undercut the guy and he tore all three tendents in both knees. He used to be 6’1 220 now dude is 6’1 265. just a coincidence

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    OLD!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    100 and counting… you’re welcome Mutoni, you ungrateful Canadian. Later, fellas.

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    Ryan, I know! Also, wtf is nbk doing not studying? Shouldn’t he be in school? Nbk is caught up in the game, he needs to get caught up in life.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    BLong, Mo Charlo, me, Justin Walsh… Forget NYC. TEXAS is running SLAMonline.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    weird how college at asu doesnt start till the 19th so nothing to study. And unlike some people i actually have to work full time while i go to school.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Yes, I must no… sigh.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Whats a tendent? I’m still pretty sure you’re 15 NBK. Not debatable.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    if i was 15 (wish i wish i was) i would be in high school right now nowhere near the internet.

  • Boing Dynasty

    whos ever heard of internet in schools, or say not going to school?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    haha tendon my bad lol didn’t even notice i did that

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    yeah i don’t go to school every single day just so i can post on slamonline. In high school i spent a good hour a week on the computer. Now i work on one, hence me consistenly posting on slam

  • Boing Dynasty

    Whatever essay.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    Great comments.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Nbk is hustling, I respect that. If I may really act like a 35-year-old and try and offer some friendly, if unsolicited, advice to a college-age reader: Try not to be so immovably certain about sh*t, man. Slamonline appreciates your patronage, and a good debate is always encouraged — but you’ll probably have more fun with it (and in life in general) if you can avoid thinking you KNOW so much.
    If you find this advice genuine and at all helpful, cool. If not, blame my vagina.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    F*ck you, Izzo.
    And goodnight.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    wrong kind of essay ese

  • Boing Dynasty

    duh, i was testing you.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I blame the v@gina of Ryan Jones for plotting this all. We all know that Lawrence Funderburke was hands down the boss dawg of 02-03

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    i find the advice helpful, but on certain topics like was T-Mac ever the BEST player in the NBA i am not wrong and will not budge. I understand what your saying Mr. Jones but at the same time when you KNOW someone is wrong no matter how much they try and make fun of you or use unrelated crap (tmac can beat duncan 1on1) there is no way I will budge. As i have said time and time again if you have proven me wrong I am not afraid to admit it, I have no problem with losing a discussion or whatever but to argue for something someone says just because you don’t want to look wrong is garbage. I am to blunt when I say certain things and am probably to aggressive in how i post but I am just tryin to improve the perception of the posts so I or everyone who knows what their talking about can have an educated discussion. I was not trying to have a big conversation about this Tmac crap but its plainly obvious he was not the best player. Its simple look at it from my point of view, you have the first pick and you can pick in player in the league to win a title. Its 2003 where would Tmac fall- number 3 or 4 guaranteed.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    “Nbk Posted: Jan.6 at 3:19 pm
    three things i’m 21 if you must no
    referring to your vagina as the topic you would like to discuss- more of a betcat (16ish)”

    I was refered to in a conversation in a negative way about how to conduct a debate! MISSION A-CUNT-LISSHED

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    i was referring to Ryan acting immature bet. It had nothing to do with you not knowing how to debate.

  • Boing Dynasty

    or 1.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I dont know how to debate? lololol!!!! My swagg is more phenomenal than a marsupial is a mammal!!!

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    hey boing was Jerry West better than Wilt Chamberlain? If you think so then your Tmac stance should not change but if you think Wilt was better then your an idiot for staying with your Tmac view.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Nbk, you have been on here since 1:20. Lifes cost $1 at Wal-Mart, go get one their.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    i did not say you don’t know how to debate for the third time. i said ryan was acting like a 16 year old. do you know how to read?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    like i said i am at work getting paid for posting. Ill be here all day hoe

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    ” Jerry West better than Wilt Chamberlain”

    EL OH EL, Jerry West, one of the most dynamic guards of all time against Wilt, one of the most dominate centers?

  • Boing Dynasty

    trying to equate jery wests athletic abilitys to T Macs dosnt make sence. try again.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    “do you know how to read?” No Nbk i dont. I thought we made a pact that you would not make fun of my illiteracy if i promised not to make fun of your fat brother rosie o donald!

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    true that, but rosie got his penis removed he is now my gay sister. Trying to say Tmac is better then Tim Duncan a year duncan got the mvp and a ring and finals mvp doesn’t make sense. SO shut up

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    “like i said i am at work getting paid for posting. Ill be here all day hoe ” hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha. You get paid to sit in a cubicle and start flame wars with me (and now Ryan)? And your ‘boss’ doesnt check your computer history and see you are goofin off? Sounds like you are home schooled buddy.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    This was the best comment section ever. One question. Do Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter just take turns being the biggest “joo-joo” in the family? Seems like as soon as one is playing well the other disappears.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    “Saying ‘I’m sorry’ is the same as saying ‘I apologize.’ Except at a funeral.”

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    he who laughs last isn’t very smart

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Nbk, individual talent has nothing to do with team preformance. Tim Duncan had HALL OF FAMER DAVID ROBINSON as his buddy in the paint. Who the fu(k was TMac’s point guard? JAQUES VAUGHN!!!! I REPEAT: JAQUES VAUGHN

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    no my dad owns the business, i aint in a cubicle that would be tight like office space style. I am on the phone most of the day and posting on the internet does not affect my work much. Hate all you want but your doing this because your bored at home or wherever and i am bored at work.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    You can’t be the best player in the league if you don’t win. I never said he was not the most talented he probably is still top 3 most talented player in the league right now.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    i am at work too. I am a cow.

  • Boing Dynasty

    iam an astronaut.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Well Nbk lets put things in prespective. Tim Duncan DID have a great year. 23 points 12 rebounds 3 blocks 4 assists is no joke. Plus he got a ring HOWEVER TMAC lead his team in scoring (32 ppg) Assists (5.5 apg) REBOUNDS (6.5 rpg) STEALS (1.6 spg) AND BLOCKS (0.8 bpg). So basically he WAS the entire team. Tim had a great year, but nobody did it bigger than TMAC.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    hey bet KG led his team in every category that year too. Oh and KG’s squad went just as far as Tmacs. It does not matter that Tmac was the best player on his team it matters if he leads them to victories. Nobody will ever say a player who cannot win is the best of all time, same should apply to single seasons. And once again KG did the same thing as Tmac and I am willing to bet they are not the only two players to do that in 03.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Duncan was better the fact that you are arguing something so commonly known means yuo either like to argue, or don’t like me. I am going with the latter but I know and everyone else knows (if they know what they are talking about) that Tim Duncan was the best player that year.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Dammit, how do I go to lunch and miss Jones going straight vagina jokes and sh*t?! I fail at life.

  • http://its-mitch.blogspot.com/ Paps

    Duncan got 2 more without Robinson.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Ryan was in rare form today.

  • http://www.yamahyouth.com Germs

    Sorry guys, but I’ve got the last laugh. Thanks to y’all. Great comments!

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Nbk:Dude, if you don’t want people to call you 15yrs. old you shouldn’t post a link on your comments to your blog that states that your 15 yrs. old. If your really 21 and your just posing on your blog as a fresman in high school, I’m notifying the people at “To Catch a Predator”.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Nbk: Garnet also had a great year. But 32 points beats 23 points every time. Also the fact that TMAC was a GUARD leading his team in rebounds and blocks makes what he did all the more impressive.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    where did bet go? are you are one of the leave when your wrong because you don’t want to own up types just like just about everyone else

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    there we go my bad

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

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  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    i actually left because i had a great snack. Goldfish + Little Debbie Fudge Cookie = Mouth Orgasm.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    where on my blog does it say i am a freshman in high school. In my blog i said when i was 9 steve nash was a rookie that would make me 21 jackass

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    and for the record bet you can be impressed with T-mac’s numbers or you can be impressed with garnetts because he was a PF -Tmac played the 3 by the way- and he (garnett) averaged more assists, more rebounds, more blocks, and .2 less steals. Garnett had a better year then McGrady that year statistically which is all that matters to you people.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Nbk has a blog??????????????

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    hahahahahahahahhahaha!!! TMAC WAS SG, GRANT HILL ‘played’ Small Forward when he was around, when he wasnt, some scrubs filled that spot. But call me crazy, i find that scoring 32 points a game to be a pretty impressive mark, i find the fact you dominate the game when your only options that anyone has ever heard of are the decaying bodies of Shawn Kemp, Grant Hill and Horace Grant to be quite a big feat. Maybe i am having a mental breakdown, but my opinon leads me to belive TMAC had the best year. YOUR OPINION makes you think its the year of the Tim Duncan. Its just opinions at stake here, but lets be clear: MINE IS BETTER.

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!

  • Chris

    Tracy put so little effort into that game in Toronto, I thought I was watching Vince Carter (except the only time Vince gives an effort is when he’s being booed in T.O.). If he’s injured, he’s injured, but the Rockets played that game 4 on 5 when McGrady was on the court.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

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  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    oh and bet 12 rpg trumps 6 more then the 4 extra baskets mcgrady made on worse shooting plus garnett averaged 1 more assist and 1 more block. Plus those statistics mean jack sht because Duncan (the best player in the league no matter who is teammates were) won more games, won the mvp, won a ring, won mvp of the finals. did everything a guy could do to merit best player in the league

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    ^Unfortunately for the internets, yes.

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    Yao Ming is the best asian ever.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    That was for BET’s question about the blog.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    when TMAC is 6’7 and KG is 6’11, i think not. KG is suppose to be blocking shots and grabbing rebounds, its the JOB of a power forward, which he was. TMAC had no quality Power Forward (sorry Pat Garritey) and decided he was going to do it all himself. Assists are what a point guard should do, but KG is a team orriented stat stuffer, and so you know he will get assists. However, he had Troy Hudson, who was averaging 6 assists per game too. None of TMAC’s point guards averaged more than 3. SO basically without TMAC their would be no Magic, without KG, the Wolves had some quality players and would have been able to destroy a TMAC-less Magic. As for Tim, when you surround a great player with other Hall of Famers HE WILL SHINE. So duh he was having a great year, but TMAC had the greatest year.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Once again, Ryan said that Mac’s numbers that year (32, 7, and 6) put him in the discussion about the (mythical) best player in the league debate. Which is 100% true. He never said he WAS. Scouts, analysts on TV, GM’s, etc. (pretty much anyone questioned) all agreed that TMac and Kobe were 1 and 2 that year in the league. Of course Duncan was in the convo, he always is. And yes, Duncan did win the actual MVP award that year. But TMac did much more than just score the damn basketball! 7 boards and 6 dimes along with a couple steals and blocks a game is not exactly an easy thing to accomplish. If you were to compare who Duncan had playing with him and who McGrady had with him, you would see exactly why the Spurs did much better. But yes, TMac was one of the best in the league that year. Fact.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Tadone has ended the debate

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Elvis has left the building

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    Best I can tell, the quote that started this unholy clusterf*ck was Ryan’s assertion that “that was back when T-Mac was considered arguably the best player in the League.” Call me crazy (no, seriously), but the words that jump out to me are “considered” and “arguably.” He didn’t say “absolutely was” or “was unmistakably” or “was better than that loser Tim Duncan.” He simply stated that Tracy McGrady was possibly considered by some to be the best player in the League. Not the most valuable. Not the most successful. The best. At that point he was the League’s leading scorer and throwing up 30-6-5 on a nightly basis on a team that had the following gentlemen listed at center: Pat Burke, Andrew DeClerq, Steven “Who?” Hunter and Olumide Oyedeji. Their second-leading scorer, Mike Miller, missed 33 games. Their third-leading scorer, Grant Hill missed 53. Their fourth-leading scorer, Gordan Giricek, missed 55. Their fifth-leading scorer, Drew Gooden, missed 63. What I’m trying to say here is Tracy didn’t have much help. Yet his Magic won 42 games and took the Pistons to a seventh game in the first round. When it came time for MVP voting, Tracy finished fourth, and received a couple of first-place votes. Which says to me—inarguably, in fact—that some people considered him the best player in the League. But hey, what do I know, I’m just another old guy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Or what Russ said.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    your right Kg’s job was to lead the league in Rebounds that was his “job” and because he is a stat stuffer and mcgrady is a “scorer” garnett averaging more assists means nothing. And your right Tmac was the whole magic team even though with Tmac the next year they had the worst record in the League. Tmac is the only best player in the league to ever lead his team to the worst record in the league.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    AARP discounts b*tches!

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Jones said ‘arguably’ so i argued it.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    Nbk’s selective reading is second to none. He may be arguably considered the best at it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m not far behind you Jones. But I think 33 is like 63 in Slam years, so Denny’s has a discount meal waiting for me in the internet world.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    hahahaha at yall old MC Hammer Shell Toe fools.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    the phrases ballon pants and Run DMC should have been added but i hit enter too quickly. It happens.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    like i already stated i did not plan for this to be a big argument i said mcgrady was not the best player, most talented is a different story but best player (maybe i am crazy but i think i have said this before too) means winning, no matter who your teammates are you have to win to gain recognition. He was a great player top 5 in the league no doubt about it but to say he was the best player in the league when he best pf of all time had his best season is wrong. It can be arguable or whatever but Duncan was better plain and simple, i do not care about statistics enough to have them be proof a guy is the best player in the league. If that were the case why is there even a debate about who is better between LeBron and everyone else? He went for 30 7 and 7 two years ago. It is hypocritical to call Tmac the best player in 02-03 if you don’t think LeBron is the best player in the league for the last 3 years.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Huh??? Ok, i’m off. It’s probably for the best.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Never Boost Krack?

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    you just said ‘Lebron James’ while Jones was reading comments. Terrible idea.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    I could argue all day with noone in particular over sh*t I pretended people said.But I really think I’d kill myself first.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    but in my personal preference world: Gerald Wallace and Boris Diaw>>>>>>>>>>>>>the nba in general.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    homework + to do = goodbye

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Ah.
    If Michael Jordan had lined up with the four dwarves who are in the new Rodman movie, the ’90-91 Bulls would’ve won zero games. By Nbk’s “best player means winning” logic, the same Jordan who averaged 30, 6 and 6 on that title team could’ve played just as well as he did alongside Pippen, but, because his team would’ve sucked, he would NOT have been in the best player conversation.
    Dude, this goes back to the advice I tried to give you…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    But, truly, this has been fun.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    You’re trying to make lemonade out of bowling balls. SOME people DID consider him to be the best player in the League in that timeframe. He was in the discussion. I think the fact that he received first-place MVP votes in 2002-03 is absolute proof of that. Not that he WAS the best incontrovertibly—last I checked no one’s saying that—but that ARGUABLY he could have been CONSIDERED the best player in the League. Which obviously he was.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    and i love how everyone rounds mcgrady’s numbers up to make his year sound better he averaged 6.5 rebounds and 5.5 assists. he did not put up no 32 7 and 6 he put up 32 6 and 5. Out of 71 games mcgrady went for 7rb and 6 assists in the same game only 18 times.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    Everyone? I said 30, 6 and 5. You can go back and look. I rounded DOWN. Is 30, 6 and 5 terrible? Must be, I guess.

  • http://twentythreenine.blogspot.com Russ Bengtson

    Keep twisting and turning the argument, though. I’m done here.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Wow, just wow.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    lack of heart runs in the family…?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    he was considered to have the best SEASON not the best PLAYER. because he got an MVP vote means he got a vote as the most valuable player to his team which he actually might have been (garnett more so). to say he was the best player is at most debatable but for every poster to team up and try and fight for the McGrady was better then Duncan side has nothing to do with who is right and who is wrong, all you btch about the way i post and team up against me every single day i say anything. I don’t care at all it is comedic. Winning is everything you can’t be the best if you can’t win, basketball is about winning not statistics and for the record MJ got out of the first round after his 3rd year (maybe 4th) McGrady never has done that. I was not saying you have to win a title to be the best player but you do have to win.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I said 32, 7, and 6. Sue me.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    sorry russ your the ONLY one that said 32 6 and 5 my bad.

  • karma89

    hey, remember when people thought T-Mac was in Kobe’s league? Hell ,even VC is better than T-Mac. More clutch, less injury prone, and a better scorer. ZING!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    I’m not sure what this idiot is sayong,but is he honestly trying to suggest that T-Mac wasn’t considered one of the best players in theNBA at the times?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    32-6-5 is in no way terrible but it is not that much better then 23-13-6. Especially when Garnett shot 50% compared to McGrady’s 45% from the field. Statistics do not show the whole story, and it is crap to judge what happened 6 years ago on stats alone.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Is this izzo idiot joining the clan and making sht up? (yes)

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    This is absurd…

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Since i love procrastination:

    “Nbk Posted: Jan.6 at 5:25 pm
    sorry russ your the ONLY one that said 32 6 and 5 my bad.” “BETCATS Posted: Jan.6 at 4:08 pm
    Well Nbk lets put things in prespective. Tim Duncan DID have a great year. 23 points 12 rebounds 3 blocks 4 assists is no joke. Plus he got a ring HOWEVER TMAC lead his team in scoring (32 ppg) Assists (5.5 apg) REBOUNDS (6.5 rpg) STEALS (1.6 spg) AND BLOCKS (0.8 bpg). So basically he WAS the entire team. Tim had a great year, but nobody did it bigger than TMAC.”

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Can we just officially start ignoring NBK?

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    NOW i am done

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    i was referring to what had been said since you put his exact stats out BET.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    and its weird how up until the point where i disagreed with Ryan everyone was hating on mcgrady and now everyone is defending him. Ignore me all yuo want but you know that in 2002-03 you had to pick a player to win a title (the only thing that matters) you would have picked Duncan or Garnett (maybe shaq). You would not have selected Tracy McGrady unless you were playing a video game. And if you would not pick mcgrady before someone in order to win a title doesnt that mean that mcgrady is not the best player.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    its hard to believe the best player in the league can’t win a game when he is up 3-1 and is so happy to “finally be in the 2nd round” the best player in the league always makes statements and then totally chokes on his words. Happens all the time

  • boogster

    whatever you kids talk about t-mac, he`s not going to give a SHlT, and will go ahead with his `last laugh` (then choke and die) so why don`t we talk about something else, ;ike the girl who Kobe try to score, (or did)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    There’s a possiblity Tmac is being shopped around, especifically to an eastern team…Ryne i’d like to know your opinion on this (look at my latest post + comments on Hibachi)

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    RV- Who is Tmac rumored to go for? I looked at eastern teams and only saw two tradeable options but milwaukee seems out of the question (michael redd) and orlando would be giving Houston equal value

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    would *not* be / unless they did lewis and a 1st rnd pick

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Nasty Butt Krack.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Needlesized Boyhood Kid

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    b.long= butt loving ominous nut guzzler (your a douchebag)

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    ^Wow. Just for that I’m going to pop your blog’s cherry and be the first person to comment on 8 months worth of writing. Congrats.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    8 months without a comment if i did that i would be so proud. lol it isn’t even a month though

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    the source isn’t very clear, i don’t think they have the specifics, or maybe there aren’t any, its more like Tmac is being shopped around so teams are talking, presenting different scenarios. All I can say is Toronto maybe, but take it with a grain of salt, obviously if Tmac stops acting like a punk then talks may stop, but there’s talk of Tmac basically trying to force a trade by not directly asking for one, teammates getting frustrated at him, etc..

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    *frustrated WITH him

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    understandable but how would toronto work? i understand they are rumors but its a rumor that doesnt make any sense…the raptors would have to give up (realistically) either jermaine o’neals expiring contract which wont happen the rockets don’t need big men, or moon, parker, and bargnani for tmac. Either way it does not seem very plausible. I am interested to see the possibilities or even what exactly the Rockets are looking for. McGrady for Allen Iverson makes a lot of sense to me though

  • WhaHuh

    Classic stuff. Wasnt the point that TMac did have a great season and never reached that point again? It is the equivalent of LeBron having already reached his peak when Kobe was still playing. Keep the internet rage going though. I imagine NBK and BETCATS typing with their fists saying HULK SMASH

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    /SLAM explodes.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    both Tmac and Jo’s contracts expire in 2010, Tmac’s is about 1 million more, perhaps Toronto figures its a chance to give the raptors another look, another identity and opportunity to contend, and if it doesn’t work out, they let him walk, like they probably will with JO anyway.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal.
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  • FLUXLAND

    NBK..Toronto has been actively shopping JO. In fact, BC has tried to trade him 6 times already. Or supposedly, whatever.

    BETCATS.. epic stuff on SKB.

  • FLUXLAND

    I meant SKO. I blame NBK.

  • Nbk

    I know that toronto is shopping JO I was talking about McGrady moving to Toronto does not make sense for Houston. Houston does not need another 4 they have 3 already. And Houston’s goal is a title not to have cap flexibility. JO is virtually unmovable this year unless a contender bows out and is looking for cap flexibility for 2010. Or if Toronto has given up hope on him completely and moves him and Parker for big z and wally sczerbiak. Unlikely though either way (considering the salary cap is projected to actually be smaller in 2010 then it is right now)

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Are we positive that NBK is not mentally challenged? There seems to be a serious lack of reading comprehension here. As Russ pointed out, nobody said that T-Mac was the best player at the time. What Ryan merely implied (rightfully so) was that he was in the discussion, he was considered amongst the best players in the league. Some even went as far as proclaiming him the best in the L. Some. At that time. What is there to argue?

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    i feel that a lot of “debate/argument” that happens around here is because people have different definitions of what things are. “Is so-and-so a winner” had been argue to death here because people don’t have the same standard of measure, which is fine. but arguing definitions makes for really frustrating and pointless debate.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    I missed all the fun. Damn after school practices.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    NBK, the Rockets secretly ARE looking for cap flexibility. Everyone is talking about other teams as in the running for the big FA class of 2010, but Houston has some expiring contracts that year and i believe that’s their back up plan, if this team continues to go nowhere it’s gonna get tweaked that year in a big way. Tmac’s 23 mil come off, Rafer’s 5 mil, Scola’s 3 mil, Luther’s almost 3 mil, chuck Haye’s 2 mil, Barry’s 2 mil, brooks and dorsey as well. They only have Yao, shane, and landry guranteed past 2010. Brooks is probably the only guy who is sure to stay past then.

  • Nbk

    Maybe RV but as I said the cap is expected to b smaller in 2010 then it is this year or a little bigger (55-58million)when it was expected to b about 10-15 mill higher so even though Houston will get cap they will probably not have the oppertunity to have ad much talent as they do now (Yao will get a max deal)

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    T-Mac was the best player in the league that season.
    There, I said it. You scared @ss punks.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Is it just me or is NBK and Jukai the most…’untolerated’ people on slamonline…?

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    No, thats pretty accurate. Ryan is really good at pissing people off Dacre.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Just a review on this thread…. i thought this was really a heady back and forth sparring over statistical explanations and basketball IQ until it got broken down to who could come up with the best acronyn for the other persons name… amazingly funny stuff….pass the ventalin puffer…

  • Boing Dynasty

    Just so its clear; T Mac is the best player in the history of basketball, and Nbk is wrong about everything. Also i thouht it was sweet how u sh!tted on people for rounding Macs numbers up .5, and then immediately proceeded to round his numbers down exactly .5, basically making you a retard. Sleep tight.

  • http://slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I was there, so I’m pretty sure it happened, but to be safe, I’d like to announce that Penn State arguably just beat Purdue.

  • http://slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Although I might have rounded up the score…

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    hahahaa…*choke*….. :)

    IS EVERYONE SEEING KOBE’s third quarter against NO ??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

  • Boing Dynasty

    Look Jones its not all about stats, its about who i happen to like more. So TCU > Penn.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com albie1kenobi

    Y’all hilarious

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Wow, 240+ comments for the Houston crybaby? Really?

  • KA

    while I do think slam ride some nbaers jocks a bit, nbk is a very entertaining troll. also, 21 is a perfectly acceptable age for petulant behaviour on discussion boards/comment sections. go ahead and think tim was the absolute best player that year. I just remember tim being quoted if he could have somebody’s game for a day, he’d take tracys. this was the issue with mac/dunc/kg. thats gotta tell you something.

  • stu

    wow, just read all of that – nbk, i have never in my life seen one moron harp on so stupidly and failing on such a grand scale.
    you keep saying that tmac wasn’t the best that year. except no one ever, ever, ever said he was. ever. d*ck head. your whole arguement is based on something you are making up. was he arguably the best. absolutely. was he considered as one of the beat? the MVP panel thought so. fail. fail. fail. ignorant child.
    and i’m old as f*ck too (for this club, you know, not for the earth), have been reading slam since gold tooth larry, and have been a linkstigator since week one (check the comments archive if they have one, i went back and forth with lang via comments on september 12th after the attacks, when you were in grade school) your argument is amazing, because you are arguing against something that wasn’t said!!!! imagine going to mcdonalds, ordering a big mac, the person behind the counter saying “would you like fries with that?” then you start flipping out, ranting about how stupid they are for offering you a soda!.. stupid analogy, but you are making sh*t up, and it is making my brain want to fold in half!!!!!!

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    read em Darksaber. Its not a waste of time. At all. I promise.

  • stu

    ^beat = best…
    see, i can’t type straight… i sit and read the links and the wire and all the comments etc every day, barely ever commenting, but this is ridiculous. ryan, you are a gentleman and a scholar. so is your vagina.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    @Hursty: thanks man, i do like reading a lot of the comments, but when nbk/juks/Bet go on a tirade of sorts, well i usually phase out. and 240+ comments for T-Mac (at this time in the season) is not worth it, in my humble opinion.

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    this post should continue forever

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    Arguably the best question to ask is: How does NBK get this much attention? Is the idea of him wrecking keyboard after keyboard in typing rage so tempting? Are people waiting for him to have a heart attack while giving his standpoints futile try after futile try? NBK, don’t be the first Slamonline fatality. They’ve gone so long without having anybody die. Although, would Slamonline Martyr be an even higher honor than that of Linkstigator? something to consider there, NBK…

  • Plasticman

    NoBodies Klown.
    Wow that escalated fast!
    Great stuff guys

  • jay

    If NBK keeps typing his keyboard will explode!

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    Nbk just wants the last laugh

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    lol. We really should better find things to do with our time.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I can’t believe I just read all of that.

  • MKP

    T-Mac should have never left Toronto because he’ll never get out of the first round of the playoffs and will never compete for a championship. Just like his time spent in Orlando and now with Houston.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    It was comic gold though Eboy.

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  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    seriously, this thread needs to be kept alive. Where’s NBK?

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    moooooooooooooooooo

  • jay

    NBK is buying himself a slurpy and a new keyboard…

  • Harlem_World

    Second Russ on Nbk selective reading. Scrolled down from there, blah blah blah. For the record, TMac is skilled at the highest level, but his heart and commitment don’t match that level. He quits on his team. No getting away from that.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    For accountability’s sake, I’m just gonna post this everywhere today:
    “H to the Izzo Posted: Jan.6 at 10:33 am
    Ryan:If your Nittany Lion (whatever the hell a Nittany Lion is) manage to beat Purdue I’ll shave a portrait of Joe Paterno onto my head.”
    Do they have good barbers in Dublin?

  • Nbk

    I realize I started a discussion abot something that was never exactly said but there were people arguing against me although I did get carried away, but hahaha why doesn’t someone think of somethin other then complaining about me. Other then Ryan who has kept his rythm

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  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    HAHAHAHHAHAHAaaa…
    See i got the last laugh there.

  • Jackie Moon

    Ha.

  • ClydeSays

    Hey Tracy, I hope it works out for you, but your loooooong history of injury says otherwise.

  • rikson

    Actually McGrady played pretty good defense in his prime (remember the block against kobes fadeaway in the ASG). And if you say West plays no defense you should (re-)watch the playoff series agains duncan and the spurs… nough said!

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Yes Rikson…. a great example of his defence is an all-star game. You should have just said his final year in Toronto or his first 2 in Orlando.

  • Scruffz

    My fantasy team doesn’t feel sorry for you, T-Mac. When your knee can make it to the first laugh, let me know.

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  • rikson

    Youre right – not the best example. I just loved that sequence!

  • randy thompson

    T-Mac = Penny Hardaway, both seemingly lost the love …………… I think with Tmac ..he needs to be challenged….maybe now that Kobe threw up 61 on the knicks …..maybe that will put a fire under him !!!!

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