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Wednesday, January 28th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  321 responses

Post Up: Cleveland Rocks

Bron and Mo ball out of control while the Bobcats shock LA.

by Holly MacKenzie

Blah, blah, blah. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Lakeshow lost to the Bobcats. Again. I know, I know. I don’t have too much to say about that. Great, great, great effort from the Cats, especially with Gerald Wallace leaving the game in the fourth after taking a hard shot to the side from Andrew Bynum on a trip to the basket.

Seeing him writhe on the floor moaning was not fun. He’s had too many injuries already. Let’s let him be healthy, k, thanks.

Felton was fantastic, Diaw was great and I loved seeing Raja play against Kobe.

When Kob fouled out, I kinda knew it was over for real. Eeek. Ariza left the game with a concussion, but apparently is not expected to miss any playing time.

On to Cleveland and Sacramento. LeBron James. Triple-double. Mo Williams. Career-high 43. To go with 11 and 8. Nice. Apparently the last time two teammates have had lines like this was in 1971. Pretty wild. Those Cavaliers are also 21-0 at home now. They are going to be something to face in Cleveland. Gotta love that homecourt. advantage.

The Magic got back Mickael Pietrus and now they have another weapon to help Dwight open things up inside with his outside shooting. Pietrus had 27 points and 10 rebounds last night in his first game back and the Magic offense was on fire as they dropped 135 against the Pacers.

A near-trip-double ain't a thing.Didn’t get to see much/any of the Denver/Grizzlies game, but looks like once again it was Billups to get his team the victory.

The Spurs. Freaking awesome to see TD drop a line like he did last night. We talk abut the Spurs but I never give them the respect they deserve and I’m always looking like a dummy in the end when it comes to Pop’s boys.

I feel badly for the Jazz who’ve had so many injuries as of late, I can’t even keep track. I’m always analyzing the box score to make sure I can make sense of who is playing and who’s out. Get healthy, Jazz.

Speaking of getting healthy, the Wizards just can’t catch a break. Now the news that Andray Blatche will miss 2-4 weeks with a knee strain. If I were Gil, I’d almost not want to come back this season for fear of another injury with the way this team’s luck is going. I sure do miss seeing him out there though.

I’m sick of the nightly shot of Melo’s outfit on the bench, too. It’s time to see him in uniform, playing ball again. I’m missing Melo.

Great to see Darius Miles with another 13 points last night for the Grizz. Sure they lost, I’m just happy for Miles. He’s like the posterboy (man?), for the underdog this season, with all odds stacked against him. I’m rooting for him, obvously.

Okay. I’m on the verge of going off on another Lakers tangent so I’m going to close this up here. No need for my Bobcats-induced rage to come out.

Cleveland 117 Sacramento 110

Another victory, another triple-double and this time, another career-night by someone not named LeBron. While it was he who had the triple-double, this victory was all about Mo, as Mo Williams had a career-high 43 points on 15-21 field goals while also dropping in 11 assists and 8 rebounds to help the Cavs hold off the Sacramento Kings. With Bron doing his usual superstar thing, finishing with 23 points, 15 rebounds, 11 assists and three blocked shots, the Kings were no match for the Cavs late as they hung around, but didn’t really threaten the Cleveland lead once LeBron and Mo took over in the third to put their squad ahead. While the Kings dropped to 0-19 against the East on the season, the Cavs improved to 21-0 on their home floor. Cleveland absolutely pounded the Kings on the boards, hauling down 49 to Sacramento’s 25 as the Cavs had 17 offensive rebounds alone. Kevin Martin had 35 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists to lead the Kings while John Salmons had 21 points and Jason Thompson added 16.

San Antonio 107 Utah 100

Those damn Spurs. They are doing it again. While we talk about them every other week, while we all know it, they still somehow shock the hell out of us when we really stop and give them the shine they desreve. Last night against the Jazz, Tim Duncan showed all of us how silly we are when we forget to mention him in the list of best players in the league. Dropping a line of 24 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 2 steals and 3 blocked shots, he was solid when his team needed someone to guide them against the Jazz. When the Spurs went on a 10-0 run to take the lead in the fourth, Utah had no answer for them besides fouling and the Spurs were solid in the fourth after struggling at the line in the first three quarters. Tony Parker also had 24 points to go with 6 assists as Manu and Roger Mason each added 13 points. Mehmet Okur had 22 ponts and 17 rebounds to lead the Jazz as Deron Williams added 19 points and 13 assists and Ronnie Brewer added 23.

Charlotte 117 La Lakers 110

Somehow, I knew this wasn’t going to be so easy. Maybe it was BETCATS promising I’d be sad when Wednesday arrived, perhaps it was the moment Chris Webber and Gary Payton decided to heckle Ahmad for his Bobcats/MJ love, but I knew those Bobcats would be giving the Lakers a run for their money. In the end, the Cats outlasted Kobe Bryant and as he went down, so did the Lakers. While the Bobcats led throughout, Bryant led the Lakers back and a Derek Fisher three-pointer forced overtime. In the first overtime, the teams traded baskets until Bryant fouled out while guarding Shannon Brown on the perimeter. Without Bryant in the additional overtme period, Andrew Bynum did his best to help the Lakers scoring all seveo of their points in the second overtime, but they fell short as Brown scored five of his 15 in that session. It was a bittersweet victory for Charlotte as they lost Gerald Wallace when he took an elbow from Bynum on his way to the bucket. Raymond Felton had 21 points, 9 rebounds and 11 assists for the Bobcats as Raja Bell had 17 points and Boris Diaw added 23 points, 9 rebounds and 9 assists. Bryant finished with 38 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists before fouling out for the Lakers. Bynum had 24 points, 14 rebounds and 6 blocked shots while Fisher added 14.

Orlando 135 Indiana 111

Last night the Magic topped 30 points in each quarter of their game against the Pacers. With Indiana not being able to play any kind of defense, Orlando was able to roll to an easy, easy victory to try and get on the right track after a shaky week of losses. The return of Mickael Pietrus was an added boost as he played in his first game since breaking his hand and scored 27 points to go with 10 rebounds for the Magic. After the Pacers managed only 18 points in the first quarter while Orlando dropped in 36, the game was all but over. Dwight Howard had 22 points and 10 rebounds while Rashard Lewis scored 24 and Jameer Nelson added 12 and 8 assists. TJ Ford scored 23 points for Indiana as Danny Granger was held to only 10 points on 4-14 shooting.

Denver 100 Memphis 85

Thanks to a 30-20 point second quarter and then a 14-point run by Chauncey Billups in the third, the Denver Nuggets were able to put away the Grizzlies with relative ease last night, en route to a 100-85 victory, again, without Carmelo Anthony. The Billups led Nuggets were just too much for a Memphis team that lost it’s 10th straight despite having a new coach on the sidelines as they shot only 37.5% for the game. Billups had 29 for the Nuggets whie JR Smith scored 20 and Linas Kleiza added 16 off of the bench. OJ Mayo had 19 points for the Grizzlies while Rudy Gay, Kyle Lowry and Darius Miles scored 13 points apiece.

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  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    first

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    I’m going to the Celtics-Kings game tonight. My first Celtics game ever. I wonder what the result is gonna be . . . ?

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    All I am saying is all these people who are like “Bron is the whole Cleveland team” this and that. Look at Kobe. Kobe is the epitome of his whole team. YES YES I know, he has Pau and Bynum and whoever else you wnat to say he has. But last night was the perfect example. Kobe for MVP!! Terrible call on the 6th foul!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Uhm……BET is going to be even more wild today then when the CATS beat the Celts. And Bynum needs a 1 game suspension for his shot on Gerald. Very dirty…..and similar to the shot he gave to Lebron, as he made it seem like he was out of control…..he got away with one already….need to send a message to the young fella that it’s a foul play. Hard fouls are a good thing….but using elbows to peoples faces and ribs is just poor form.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    James, the Lakers are uber-talented, and Kobe’s supporting cast is brilliant. They scored 115 points the other night, Kobe scored 11. Kobe is not his whole team. And Bron isn’t, either. But the Cavs wouldn’t be very good if they didn’t have LeBron. The Lakers, better than the Cavs would be.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    James……please…..why start again?…..No one cares anymore. It’s been talked about everytime the Cavs or Lakers lose a game.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Mr. White Hot has a point. But my point is, The Lakers>>>Cavs if neither Bron nor Kobe existed.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    SNOW DAY FOR BEANTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    lol

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    And Moose is excited for many reasons.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Lucky you Moose……and I saw your response to me on Lang’s Hawks broadcast post yesterday….mind you manners buddy, or I may take a snowmobile up there and give you a lesson or two.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Eboy, you wouldn’t know what to do if you saw snow. You’ve never left WPB.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Weekly power rankings just aren’t cutting it these days, huh? I think we need to update the Dirty 30 on an hourly basis.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    But yeah I probably shouldn’t mess with the man who earns money in court. Don’t sue me.

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    No ya’ll never seen snow. Come even more up North!!! North Bay Ontario lol. My front yard is like 6 feet of snow!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Uhm…..I’m from New Jersey, you little Moosepipe…..I lived there longer than you’ve been alive.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    But was the using me as an example as the opposite of an all-star really necessary? I need reasons for your abominable actions, Eboy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Ryan’s right…..

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    One thing about LeBron (’cause, you know, I can’t help myself). It’s nice to see him having a ridiculous game for once that’s not on a Friday. I feel like he’s been doing that a lot this year, just to give other guy’s a chance at some Post-Up love. He’s conscientious like that.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    LOL!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    I was just kidding about that, E, the snow stuff. I knew you’re from NJ. And what’s up with the Moosepipe name?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Wait, I’m sorry — the Lakers lost at HOME? I totally missed that. Hmm…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    They didn’t lose Ryan…..they haven’t lost all year.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    It’s just a term of affection, Moose.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    ^B. Long, stop commenting under the name Eboy. It doesn’t fool us.^

  • Fleezy

    Raymond Felton needs to be on the edge of being shipped out constantly. he has been clutch as of late. Way to go Cats. Glad to see Larry Brown is living up to expectations.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    I was talking to 9:16 Eboy in my last comment. And thank you, then, E. We can add that to the list of things I’ve been called on SLAM and bl0gs:
    Moose
    Lil Moose
    Lil Moosie
    Mo0seknuckle
    D0uche
    D0uchebag
    Non-Homie
    Moosedroppings
    Moosepipe

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Many of those monikers are honorable. And I didn’t make up a single one of them.

  • http://danchamb.com.br/Home/ Lz – Cphfinest3

    If James the Balla spent as much time actually watching basketball, as he does waiting to post “first” on articles around here, he would know that the Kobe-LeBron discussion is no longer. James simply outplays Bryant on a daily basis, so enough with the nonsense all-right. And yes Moose you’re right, Lakers are miles ahead of Cavs if you take away both players.

  • Tom

    Let me go on the Laker rant for you Holly…….For an elite team, they are pretty bad a rotating on D. So many times, Pau/Bynum go to help, and there is no one left to box out Okafor or it leaves someone wide open for the 3. If it wasn’t for Raja and Diaw bricking 6 ft’s in a row at the end of the 4th, the game would have been done then. Eboy: Totally right about Bynum and the fouls, he def. deserves a suspension for that one. Hope Wallace doesn’t miss too much time, but those rib injuries take forever to heal. And over the last 2 or 3 seasons for some reason the Cats have had the Lakers number, so I fully expected this last night.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Ryan is right. He can’t help himself.

  • namik

    Pau Gasol needs to nut up. Seriously.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Therefore, LeBron James is the Most Valuable Player. That is my argument in a nutshell (no Austin Powers references, please).

  • http://danchamb.com.br/Home/ Lz – Cphfinest3

    Congrats BETCATS.. Hate to say it, but Larry Brown actually seem to be a good fit in NC.

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    Kobe for MVP!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    James, you need to understand something . . . Kobe is not the MVP.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Hey Moose….I would think that the Celts will win tonight, somewhere in the area of 120-92….or something big like that. The Kings will be worn down after a decent showing against the Cavs last night.

  • http://danchamb.com.br/Home/ Lz – Cphfinest3

    Moose, everybody who watched the Olympics knew the MVP race was over even before the NBA tipped off.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    For any team in an offensive funk, it must be nice to see the Pacers or Kings on your upcoming schedule. Mo Williams is pushing for that All Star bid. Raymond Felton=Late Bloomer. Andrew Bynum=Bad Defense. Tim Duncan=Updated Software. Chauncey Billups=Denver MVP.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Exactly what I was thinking. The Kings have been giving up bucketloads of points lately. I’m hoping for some Bill Walker action tonight.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I like the Updated Software line, TAD.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    I’m out . . .

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    . . . Because I have stuff to do. Be easy . . .

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    Mo Williams stated his case for the All Star game emphatically last night. I digress.

  • neaorin

    I think they replaced some hardware on the Robot as well. He’s been great lately.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    It’s funny how we take Duncan for granted at this point.

  • namik

    I think its pretty obvious that LeBron is leading the MVP race. But Kobe would be right behind him. So its not as ridiculous as some people here are making it out to be. We aren’t even at AS break yet so it might be too soon to right Kobe off. Especially seeing that he has picked up his level of play in the past month or two.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Uhm…..Dwyane Wade would like to have a word with you, namik.

  • namik

    Or write Kobe off even….

  • neaorin

    Co Co: just to be completely objective, Mo saw absolutely NO defense last night, as opposed to the All-Star game where… actually, never mind, Mo’s in.

  • namik

    Eboy, I meant that LeBron has been the leader through out. The people behind him have been Kobe, Wade, Dwight or Billups even. Where I would pick Kobe because of the Lakers record and also because I am a Laker fan. But if you argue for DWade then you I hope you had been arguing for Kobe in 2005 and 2006.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Cleveland is 21-0 at home.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Over Steve Nash one of those years?……Yeah.

  • namik

    Are you arguing for Wade over LeBron this year?…..No. But Wade is doing exactly what Kobe did those years. Score a lot, lift a weak team from obscurity to mediocrity and make lots of flashy plays. MVP? For Miami, sure. The League MVP usually needs a great record to back it up.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Dwyane is more valuable to the Heat than Kobe is to the Lakers…today. That’s all I’m saying.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    In unrelated news, Mike Conley posted a -27 last night. Tremendous.

  • namik

    There is no doubt about that. And its great to see him back doing it like only he can.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Russ with the bottle of happiness. LMAO!

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Well, it was offset by JR Smith’s +27, so there’s that.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Mike Conley was way overrated out of Ohio State. However, he is still only 21. He needs to be traded to Portland to be with his BFF Oden.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    The Heat have no chance of making the playoffs without Wade. The Lakers have no chance at a chip without Kobe. Leading team to the playoffs and probably going home in the first round < Leading a championship contender

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    ?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    I blame the media’s negative portrayal……

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Arguing about the NBA MVP in January is like arguing over whose turn it is to shovel the driveway in July.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    (And it’s LeBron by a mile anyway.)

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    The BETcats are balling right now. Good for them. And Mo Williams might’ve made the All Star team last night. Can anyone else here imagine Bron scoring less but averaging a triple double for an entire season once he’s paired with another legitimate star (ie Bosh)? I certainly can. I guess that game was aginst the Kings though…

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Pietrus put up a sick stat line last night. Though much of it came in garbage time. Still, Orlando has been absolutely blowing lesser teams out of the water, especially when they’re hitting threes.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    TAD: the “updated software” line was nice. The Spurs are another team thats really tough to beat when they’re knocking down the 3 ball. which is what we failed miserably at versus the Lakers.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Damn. I cleared the room.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    “I shot Dre in the head. You can’t touch my riches even if you had MC Hammer and the 357 b!tches” -The Notorius BIG

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    I told you to prepare for tears Holly. I told you!

  • The Seed

    Namik: But if you argue for DWade then you I hope you had been arguing for Kobe in 2005 and 2006. I love this statement, people are talking about Dwade for MVP in the least conference with the big three teams. Remeber when the west was better and Kobe had Smush, Walton, Odom, Kwame starting and no bench-went to playoffs should have been 1st MVP, I would take Dwade’s team over that Laker team starters. Kobe to me is MVP, last night without him they lost. Lakers have no slasher. So posting up Bynum and Gasol will only work so much. Lebron has Mo Williams, he has always been a beast, even in Buck land. KOBE is MVP.

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    terribly quiet on the BET front today. not what i expected

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    and i took a nap earlier in the day so that i could stay awake to watch the game. IT DID NOT DISAPOINT ME!!!!!!!

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    o there it is

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    G-Force leaving the game made me sad. I was scared. I hope its nothing too serious, i need to check that out.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    apparently, what Brown can do for you, if your a Lakers fan, is make you extremely p!ssed. SHANNON SHANNON SHANNON!!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    “my Bobcats-induced rage to come out.” so many fans suffer from this. Phoneix, Portland, Boston, Detroit, now you in LALA land know what it is! PUT US ON NATIONAL TV TURNER BROADCAST!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    put your hands in the air if your a beliver (all of SLAMONLINE keeps hands down besides Lang who said we were a ‘suprise team’ in the preview issue)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    “LOS ANGELES
    Charlotte Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace has been taken to a Los Angeles hospital where he will likely spend the night while being tested for a possible collapsed lung and fractured rib.
    Wallace was taken to Centinela Hospital to have a CT scan to check for a collapsed lung. An X-ray at Staples Center indicated no fracture, but as a precaution, Wallace is going to get a second X-ray at the hospital.
    Wallace was injured in the fourth quarter of the Bobcats’ double-overtime victory over the Lakers when center Andrew Bynum hip-checked Wallace to the floor on a drive to the basket. Bynum was called for a flagrant foul, and Wallace had to be helped to the locker room by teammates.”

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    i now dislike the Andrew Bynum. I didnt realize how serious the situation was until now…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Bynum = Kermit Washington 2.0

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    nobody is here???

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Hi BET.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I think you should write a tribute piece to Boris Diaw for Hibachi.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Hey….am I the only one who can see the SLAMOnline comment count after I post?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    no. i can too I think i wont write anything else until i know Wallace is alright.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    I find it amazing SLAM does not report Wallace’s lung collapse/broken rib

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Eboy: maybe i will. And no, everybody can see the comment count

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Collapsed lung?! Yeah, suspend Bynum please.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Its amazing isnt it TAD? This is something that could be charged as attempted murder (seeing that bynum ultra fouled Gerald and caused the collapse) yet SLAM doesnt find it newsworhty?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Why is nobody beside me commenting? Are my comments so amazing you have to stare at them all day?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Yeah BET. I actually have yet to see a video of the foul. Time to venture into Youtube land…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    since nobody is here, i am just gonna conclude this rant by saying: FU(K ANDREW BYNUM. We still won the game

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    BET….he was only tested to see if he had a collapsed lung and broken ribs…..it wasn’t reported differently….hopefully he doesn’t.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    really? Well no foul should ever be hard enough to let that happen. Police brutality is when cops beat somebody before arresting them, what Bynum did was player brutality.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    It was a stupid play on Bynum’s part.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Ok, I just watched the video of it, from like 5 different angles. My conclusion? Bynum made absolutely NO attempt at the ball and flung his shoulder/arm/forearm/elbow into Wallace while he was in mid-air and then rolled him off his shoulder and pushed off with his arm. He then tries to help Wallace up! I’m just surprised none of the other Bobcats stepped in after this happened. Bottom line: Bynum needs at least a one game suspension, if not two.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    dont worry BET, the cavalry’s arrived. Oh and Bynum just got added to my list of nba players i despise. Funny thing though, 3 of em are on the yellow/purple team. Though his shove did not look too serious at first glance, i guess a guy his size/weight could seriously hurt ya when he feels like being dirty.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Man, I feel so bad for Gerald Wallace. I really hope the injury is not as serious as that report made it sound. The league definitely needs to take a second look at that flagrant by Bynum. I think he should be suspended for it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Bynum was actually one of the very few players I liked on the Lakers, but he is quickly becoming very unlikable. Besides this play, he has done this before. He seems more worried about his offense than his defense and just has an aura to him that he feels he is owed something since he got that new contract. I’m sure i’ll catch flak from the Laker diehards on here, but so be it.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    btw, morrisson’s foul on the gasol dunk earlier in the game was also dirty(and i hate pau timberrrr). Gasol goes up for the easy slam and adam goes for chest/shoulder/arm, making pau land awkwardly on one foot. Shoulda neen a fragrant, adam cant block gasol even if he had derric rose’s hops!

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Hi Holly.
    You probably felt impending doom because the Lakers are inexplicably 4-5 all time against the BETcats. Not to worry though: LA will win it all come June. You’ll see. Destiny.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    didnt gerald have rib injurie woes earlier this season? and Ariza had a concussion? Damn, that must have felt like bulls/pistons ’89 up in there. 6 game winning streak sure brings out the malicious intent on both sides of those growing “rivalry”!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I liked Tariq better when he didn’t have a rooting interest.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    The Lakers were just officialy fuc*ed by Tariq’s promise. He did this last season as well, and we all saw how that worked out. I know..I know….I’m putting a lot of stock in Tariq’s words…..but dude is a genius.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    TAD….give him time…..5 years from now he’ll be telling everyone in earshot (or eyesite) that Lebron James has transformed himself into the greatest athletic phenomonom in the 21st century and will be rooting for whatever team he winds up on. I’m sure of this.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Eboy:
    Yes, I AM a genius.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Seriously though, I just have a feeling…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You’re welcome.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Hey Holly, tell me how BETCATS’ ass taste

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And Tariq….to be serious as well (putting my dislike for the squad aside)unless the Lakers figure out how to hold teams under 100 points per game ALL THE TIME….they will NOT be holding the Larry O’Brien Trophy anytime soon.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I used to be a Bynum fan as well. But that youtube vid of him “making it rain” and the fact that he’s always wearing those ridiculously stupid Ed Hardy shirts turned him into just another Laker I dislike. (And yeah TAD, I think his attitude has changed since signing that big extension. Alhough he has been playing his ass off recently)But this situation with Crash makes me dislike him even more. Ariza is now the ONLY Laker I don’t hate.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    quick statement: Mo’s line, incredible as it was, was not more impressive than TP’s 55/10 or Amare’s 49/17 in november. I feel strongly about this, Juks disagrees though. We both use the same facts to argue for/against this: Mo’s many attempted three’s. Neither TP or STAT had the luxury of making a bunch of 3′s in their superb games (though TP did have double OT’s). Any thoughts?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And I know….they average giving up just a shade under a 100 for the season…but the last month or so has not been that way.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Cleveland is 21-0 at home..

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Yeah E, everyone was raving about the lakers D early on and they were shutting some teams down, but they really don’t rotate or cover for each other defensively. Bynum has finally started rebounding and defending the paint a little better but if the Lakers run into a team that moves the ball well and hits open threes they are very beatable.

  • j4zz m4n

    the lakers again underestimating supposedly “weaker” teams.you only beat what’as in front of you and therefore should play every team like they were top seeds.pau pau pau what a poor performance

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Eboy:
    I don’t think the Lakers will suddenly morph into the 04 Pistons in terms of defense. I mean, yeah, if you allow the Bobcats to score 34 pts in the paint in the first half, then yeah, you’re not displaying championship form.

    That being said, they’ve shown they can play decent D this season. They just need to be more consistent. Also, only the Celtics really scare me. I think LA can take these improved Cavs because they don’t have as much interior strength as Boston, Bron’s ability to get to the rim at will notwithstanding.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I don’t hate Bynum…..I just think he’s trying to get a reputation as an enforcer instead of concentrating as being the best center in the conference (which he is close to being). Obviously we all knew he had the little nasty streak about him when he threw the elbow into Shaq’s back as a rook…..but going this route (if it truly turns into a trend) isn’t going to make anyone outside of LA a fan of his….and it’s a shame…’cause he is megatalented. Plus….how can you not hate Kobe, Pau, Sasha more? That’s an impossiblity.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    T, I think the Celts and the Cavs will both be able to handle the Lakers over a seven game series. Why pray tell, would you venture that terrible prediction, Eboy? ‘Cause the Celts and Cavs both play D for a full 48 and that’s what makes them tougher than the Lakers, imo. The Lakers are without a doubt the most talented offensive squad from 1-8, but their D is limited, and when yur own coach says “i’ve long given up thinking they’ll be a great defensive squad”….mindgames or not…..tells a bigger story.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    The Lakers are the 5th best defensive team in the league.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Misleading….Mr. Brown.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Kobe scoring 38 with two (!!) injured fingers on his shooting hand is quite amazing. Gotta hand it to the guy, he loves lighting up the perceived kobe-stoppers (Raja, Bowen, Ray&Tony Allen etc.) in that aspect, he does display jordanesque mannerisms to perfection

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I had to look it up, but the C’s went 40-1 at home in the ’86 season and the Bulls went 39-2 in their 72-10 season. Does anyone think the Cavs could do the first 41-0 at home ever? Yeah, I know it’s early.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    In a week and a half Big Z will teach that punk how the big boys do it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Myles, if you can….who’s above them….if you happen to know?

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    that should have been a flagrant two on bynum….. the refs let the lakers get away with so much

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    TAD….I think they’ll lose 4 games.
    Anton….I don’t know if Big Z would be that guy….maybe Shaq would give him a bruising performance on one of Shaq’s “vintage” nights he’s been coming up with.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Eboy:
    You’re making the Lakers out to be complete p*ssies on defense. They aren’t the absolute best, but they aren’t THAT bad. In any case, wanna bet the Lakers’ll win? You beat me last time, but I was just on the bandwagon then…

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Cavs will go in with a 22-0 home streak and a chip on their shoulder. Bron and Mo will go for a combined 96 points for the win.

  • seb

    I think the Cavs would still be better than the lakers without their superstars. It would pretty close, but overal if they have the same chemistry like now, every1 healthy i think they could win. Kobe does a lot and can wait on his team, though lebron really doesn’t play near as much as kobe.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    No I’m not, Tariq….stop exagerrating. You never lived up to your end of the bet last year, btw….so why would I go there again? Fu*ker.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Boston Celtics:Scored 101.1 points per game, Allowed 91.3 points per game. Pace Factor: 90.7 (17th of 30). Offensive Rating: (4th of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 99.7 (1st of 30)

    Cleveland Cavaliers:Scored 101.2 points per game, Allowed 90.6 points per game. Pace Factor: 89.4 (25th of 30). Offensive Rating: 113.0 (3rd of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 101.2 (2nd of 30)

    LA Lakers: Scored 107.7 points per game, Allowed 99.2 points per game. Pace Factor: 94.3 (5th of 30). Offensive Rating: 113.7 (1st of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 104.7 (4th of 30)

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Z won’t do it physically but mentally. If Bynum dunks on him he’ll go to the other end and nail a three while Bynum watches with a “the hell do I do now?” look on his face.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Thanks Myles…..I think?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    All I can make of that is that the Lakers give up 8 more points per game than the other two league top record holders. That’s a pretty big swing.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    The Cavs and Celtics play at a far slower pace and have less possessions. Which is why their defensive numbers are that much lower than the Lakers. In actuality the Lakers defense is somewhat impressive, considering that they are 5th in the league in pace and 4th in defense. Just as it is somewhat impressive that the Cavs are 3rd in offense despite being 25th in pace. Probably stems from defensive stops and fast break points.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And yes, I see the Lakers averaging 6 more points per game….but I don’t know if straight offensive greatness is the hallmark of title teams. Anyone?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I would think the Cavs and Celts paces are more conducive to playoff ball on the norm though, yes?

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Eboy:
    I didn’t live up to my end of the bargain because you refused to give me your address. Give me your address and I’ll send you the DVD :)

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    I think the run and gun Suns won a championship a few years ago

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Thats entirely dependent on the opponent. And even if playoff ball equates to slower ball, then the points allowed would just go even further down for the Lakers. Not up.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    True.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    …add the Spurs to that list, E.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Double True.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Eboy:
    Give me your address and I’ll send you the DVD, punk.

  • jackyl

    i hit the over in the laker bobcats game because of double OT. Thank you.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    I will say this: I’ll be really surprised if the Lakers don’t win a championship this year. I mean, I’m no expert, but that’s just how I feel.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Well…if you were to believe the national US media….you would be correct, good sir.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Who are you talking to and what are you talking about, Eboy?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You and your Lakers feelings.

  • Todd Spehr

    Still waiting for someone to mention that Andrew Bynum is overrated AND apparently dirty too

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Ah, my Laker feelings. They’re almost menstrual.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Eboy is multi-tasking 8 different convos. I guess lawyer school paid off.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    TAD….I really need to get some client conversation goinng otherwise my ass won’t be able to pay off school.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I wouldn’t say Bynum is overrated. He hasn’t quite lived up to expectation this season, but he’s been showing what he’s capable of in recent games. He definitely has the tools to be the best center in the league not named Dwight Howard.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Where did you go to Law school, E? I’ve been meaning to ask…

  • Herfdawg

    lol watch Bynum’s play. he was late and wallace was already in the air when bynum made his move. it wasn’t dirty, it was just plain dumb. watch. he thinks he can block the shot then realizes he’s not in HS anymore. so he just takes away wallace’s momentum. its not like he threw him to the ground.

  • Herfdawg

    also note that wallace could have avoided contact. he drive straight into bynum.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    he wasn’t even looking at the ball as he made the contact. 1 year suspension

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I wish I could say Harvard or Yale….but alas, I can’t. I’d rather not put out the location here though….ciolk, for varying reasons.

  • http://nba.com Big J

    Bynum pulled a real d!ck move against g wallace which was uncalled for he has been doing that alot recently and the refs just ignore it

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    E doesn’t want to give Willingsboro Community College any love.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Tad:
    Well-played.

  • namik

    TAD all the things you said about Bynum are true. The whole season he has acted like he deserves to be the center of attention in the offense. And now that he played a couple of good games, his sense of entitlement will only increase. If the Cavs and the Lakers met in the Finals, I would be very worried. More than I would worry about Boston. They just don’t feel right this season.

  • Michaelbchnn

    Lebron’s the MVp. Kobe did get robbed in 06 thouch.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I should have gone that route. I wouldn’t be in a student loan tsumani if I did.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Namik: You are a Lakers fan, right? I forget. If so, was that sarcasm or do you see that from Bynum as well? I honestly am not trying to attack the young dude, but he just seems like he is getting an arrogant type attitude to his play.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I liked Bynum a lot better when he had that whole Quizno’s persona about him.

  • namik

    I am a Lakers fan TAD and I have been saying exactly the same things for the whole season. And he has had that attitude his whole career. What pissed me off the most was that he almost refused to defend and rebound till a few games back when he finally scored some points. You are absolutely right about him.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Ok, so I guess it is correct to say he only hustles, plays D, rebounds, and sets picks consistently when he is getting touches on offense? That is what I see. He seems to sulk around when he isn’t getting touches on offense.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Sounds like a certain cactus dwelling legend in Phoenix.

  • Garrett

    Andrew Bynum is a punk…that foul cannot even be played off as unintentional and it should be at the very least a one game suspension.

  • namik

    TAD-yes, almost exactly. When you think that about 2 weeks back, dude managed to get something like 5 rebounds over the course of 3 games, and all of a sudden he is pulling down boards on the regular and has stepped up his defense, its pretty obvious that he is thinks he is owed something.

    Eboy- The similarities are scary, especially for a Laker fan. Now if only he had that kind of talent, it might actually make sense.

  • Garrett

    This shows what can happen to a player when they are hyped up before proving themselves, they kind of become the anti Greg Oden…

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    ^^didn’t make sense

  • namik

    Actually, it was 5 blocks in 5 games and 7 rebounds in 3 games. He had 3 rebounds against Dwight, who managed to let the ball fall into his hands 20 times that night. And delusional Laker fans were complaining about his ill defined role. Grab rebounds and block shots-sounds pretty f*cking simple to me.

  • Garrett

    I meant they get extremely conceited and think they can get away with anything as opposed to Oden who was so hyped that he became timid and afraid to assert himself. Wasn’t the best example, my bad.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    That’s cool, E. I’m not on that YHS level either. Hoping for Texas or George Washington at best, after that either UC Hastings/Davis or University of Houston as my backup.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    So your trying to say that either thing can happen to a player that is overhyped?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    …or you can get a Lebron James… unquestionably the most hyped athelete to come out of HS. Add Kevin Garnett to that list as well.

  • Garrett

    Yeah, it seems like when a player is really hyped early in their career they go one of three ways: Embrace the hype and flourish, become very self- conscious (like Oden), or develop a massive and unjustified feeling of self- entitlement.

  • Garrett

    Of course you can’t throw every hyped player into those categories, but those seem to be the three most popular paths that players take.

  • Garrett

    I’m out, time for class…

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Boston and Cleveland, despite their extended offensive droughts, are crazy efficient on offense according to those figures Myles posted. Particularly Cleveland, which plays at a horrible pace, but seems to score a lot of points. I like Cleveland’s chances even more now.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Also, Bynum has had pretty much the same attitude since he came into the league. He’s always been a little lazy. Plus, most big men don’t like to just hustle, block shots and rebound. They want offensive touches as well. Everybody likes to touch the ball, very few players want to be strictly role players.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Horrible pace? I’m going to disagree with that. The Pistons played at a very slow, deliberate pace when they beat the Lakers in the Finals in ’04. Pace is just factoring your number of possesions per game. You don’t have to run up and down the court to have an efficient offense. The Cavs realize that defense is where their bread is buttered and have played that way all season. They will be better come playoff time for that.

  • http://slamonline.com Sean

    I hate the Lakers, but that Bynum situation was an accident. He meant to foul Wallace instead of giving up a dunk, but there was no malicious intent. Just bad luck. Bynum’s been playing well, but as long as the Lakers lose, who cares?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Cleveland picks there spots (to run, gamble, even substitute (lebron)) better then any team except maybe San Antonio. Which makes sense since Brown was Pop’s protigy. But I think that “instinct” is what sets them apart from Boston, who rely so much on intensity and ability that they do not play much into strategy (not literally all of strategy but the things cleveland does well boston seems to ignore)

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    I always thought the Pistons played at a horrible pace. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t effective, but Mike Fratello’s old Cavalier teams were effective and they probably led the league in shot clock violations.
    I’m not a huge fan of the Mike D’Antoni uber pace, but I do prefer a game that features more running and gunning then the one the Pistons typically play.
    Anyway, I’m impressed at how much the Cavaliers have improved their offensive efficiency. That is a credit to Mike Brown and to Danny Ferry for finally getting the right mix of players and using them well.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Fair enough. I’m a fan of any pace that wins you a title.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    “Charlotte Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace was diagnosed with having 30-40 percent of his left lung collapsed and a non-displaced fracture of the fifth rib following a CT-Scan at Centinela Hospital in Los Angeles.

    He did not accompany the team to Portland.

    Wallace had a chest tube inserted into the lung to help restore it to functional capacity, but will remain in the hospital over the next 48 hours for observation.

    Additional information about his progress and a timetable for his return will be updated in the coming days ahead.

    The injury occurred after Wallace was fouled by Lakers center Andrew Bynum as he drove the lane in the fourth quarter with 2:22 left to play in regulation. He was immediately taken off the floor and received x-rays at the arena. Preliminary pictures were inconclusive, which prompted Lakers team physicians to arrange the additional examination.

    The Bobcats defeated the Lakers at Staples Center in double-overtime 117-110.”

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    BET, as I said, we’ll get to it eventually.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    So is it safe to say that Gerald Wallace is giving Eddy Curry a run for his money in the ‘Worst Year Ever’ award compition? His father and grandmother passed away during the season, now 40% of his lung collapsed. This is just terrible.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    i didnt check my email, but okay Ryne.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Yo, that’s bad news for Gerald Wallace. A collapsed lungh is just, man it’s just bad. I saw the video and it looked like Bynum was going to try to swipe at the ball, saw he wasn’t going to get that and then just committed a dumb foul.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Wow. My thoughts go out to Gerald. He really has had a tough year and had been playing some great ball of late.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I watched the video about 10 times Allen, it appears Bynum originally intended to hit the ball but then decided to commit a hard foul instead after seeing that was the only way to stop the play. Bynum used force to stop himself from getting dunked on instead of just taking it, he was originally trying to block it but saw it wasnt gonna happen, so he could either A)Get dunked on or B)Commit a hard foul. He choose B which makes him a dirty player and a b!tch.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    for a player that choose A in that scenario, see Oden, Greg.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Don’t know if comitting a hard foul over getting dunked on makes you dirty…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Uhm wow…..that’s fu*ked up bad. Bynum deserves at least a two game suspension, regardless of his intent.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Yeah, I can’t say it makes you dirty. But, it still looks bad.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    No suspension, if Wallace didn’t get hurt it would be a pretty standard foul, i feel for Wallace he didn’t deserve the injury, but sh(t happens..

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Back in the day…..Bynum would get f*cked up, on the house, the next time the teams met. Kind of miss those times.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    jaymes obviously has never played basketball.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    the league will take action. stern will not have such actions take place in his perfect league.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Sh*t, get well soon Wallace. Totally agree with BET 3:08pm. If you want, I can pay Bruce Bowen to headbutt Andrew in the post season for revenge.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    DP….are you trying to be funny? ‘Cause a dude getting that much damage off some reckless bullsh*t foul isn’t funny. Go forbid that type of foul happened to Bean…..the world would have to be restructured today if it did.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    you might not even have to pay him, Anton. :)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    In my day we just invite each other over for salads and wings and we talk about which girl is the baddest.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Settle down E, how many time do you see a defender go up with the arm across the chest and kill the attackers momentum before he takes off, it happens when a dunk is looming. Bynum just got their late, and his immediate remorse to me shows it was careless and not reckless..Again i feel bad for Wallace though..

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    Eboy, I’m serious. I’m not being funny. maybe sarcastic but nah I’ve seen people get hurt like that and the sh*t isn’t cool. no offense taken.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Again…..and by your lack of response to my comment, it’s obvious you have never played the game of basketball.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    I’m saying the league should take action. My homeboy next to me is a big gerald wallace fan (shout out to alabama for him!) and I am too. I hope he gets well and back on the court soon.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Just saying DP…..if you took a shot like that coming through the lane and got an elbow into your chest that collapsed your lung and broke a rib…..I think you’d be looking to whip someone’s ass, no? Don’t try acting like your all peace and love either….’cause I’ve read some of your tirades when someone’s pissed you off and I can only imagine you’d get heated in a heartbeat.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Yeah good comeback E, i’ve played for over 15 years and although the injury is bad the foul wasn’t a brutal act of violence IMO. If Nate Robinson commits the same foul and no one is hurt on the play, does he get suspended?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    maybe rec league jaymes?

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Yeah, not the L DP, sorry to dissapoint..

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Well jaymes…..if somewhere in the world I ever see you on a court….and you try driving the lane on me and I put you on your ass in the same manner…..don’t get upset….it was just careless on my part. Lord, how has the state of basketball fandom come to this?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    You are right, eboy. I can get pretty pissed off at anything really but I will admit my sarcastic comment should have not been made at the expense of wallace. I would be ready to box. I would be ready to throwdown on bynum, actually. I do try to support peace though.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    That’s cool, jaymes. I used to play that too when i was 5. no shame.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    And i’d take the hit and if i get hurt so be it..It’s a hard sport and stuff like this happens. I agree it’s a hard foul, but i don’t think it’s as brutal as it’s being made out to be E..That’s all dude.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I’m not saying fighting back is right, DP, but if a foul is out of line enough to get you to WANT to fight…..then that sh*t was out of line is all I’m saying. And I’m sure of Gerald could have breathed normally….he probably would have took them both out of the game at that point with a confrontation.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Pace is overrated. What you score is what you score, what you give up is what you give up. The Lakers have trouble getting key stops, the personnel is not there. They’re actually more than okay on the perimeter, but nobody thinks twice before driving the lane. Who’s going to alter the shot, take the charge or just ‘show’? Bynum? Pau? Odom?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Uhm…….let’s see Jaymes (I think I’m a bit older than you)I’ve probably watched 28 years of NBA basketball…..I have NEVER….EVER seen a dude get a collapsed lung and a broken rib from an incidental foul…..actually scratch that…..I’ve never seen that type of injury occur in an NBA game…..PERIOD….regardless of the foul type. Something’s fu*ked up in this particular equation.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    DP is so cute!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    BET…..I feel bad for you boy…..that has to be a season ending injury, I think. That just sucks.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    I asure you this though, I’m not pulling a chase bundinger if I get hit that hard. I don’t care if my crew tries to hold me back or not. I at least want to get in dude’s face and let him know that I’m not one of his little pushovers.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Eboy is right Jaymes and if you were fouled like that you would not feel the same as you say “if i get hurt so be it” a few days in the hospital with the possibilty of surgery and you think a Bynum being suspended one game is a bad idea? Wallace is going to miss a few weeks and possibly never be the same…, if your in the NBA you know how to foul someone. Shaq has never even done something like that. d*mn

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    There’s a first time for everything E, Mchales hit on Rambis and last year Williams hit on Rondo were pretty similar, i’ve seen guys brake their wrists and one guy’s elbow pop out the skin from the same type of foul. IMO those fouls were more blatant, just because the players don’t get hurt badly doesn’t mean the foul wasn’t harsh.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    But seriously DP, what were you trying to prove with your comment? Then you apolgize and offer a sign of peace? Bynum did the same thing yesterday!!! Laker players and fans share a lot of thing in common. IF Gerald had played for a larger market team (say the Lakers) and Bynum was on a small market team (say the Bobcats) this place would be more flooded than New Orleans after Katrina, all with Laker Fans calling Bynum out and trying to get him suspended. BUT instead it is filled with comments by a insane fan of the small market team SCREAMING about this and Lakers fans playing it off and making nice sillies out of it. I LOVE IT!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    BET is kind of right.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Breaking an elbow and wrist is a little different than losing half your lung Jaymes. Don’t be rediculous

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Compare the hits NBK…forget about the injury. Yeah ok i submit..1 or 2 games suspension is fair, but i still don’t believe the foul was all that brutal, despite the terrible injury..

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Eboy, i am just happy Gerald is not dead. And it might end his career even. They call him crash for a reason. Now with this, they might as well change it to Train Wreck, because that’s what his health looks like right now, a train wreck.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Well…..I hope he can get back at some point BET….not a career ending situation. I don’t know enough about the long lasting effects of a collapsed lung to know what that means for his playing future.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    NBK..If Bynum goes in a little later or earlier with the same intent and Wallace doesn’t get seriously injured is the foul still as brutal?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Could this really be career threatening?! That would suck so bad. Although, I think its pretty fair to say Gerald will be back. Maybe not this season, but I REALLY hope this isn’t the end of his career.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    No don’t forget the injury because if you let Bynum get away with it once then he has no reason not to do it to the next guy in the key….it is called prevention Jaymes, its like when Amar’e and Diaw got suspended in game 6 against san antonio, they did not deserve it really but to prove a point the league took control of the situation….and since then has anyone left their bench for anything?????? same concept don’t elbow players in places where you can kill them

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    I’m sorry. I just learned in public speaking today that listening is the most important part of communication. Eh, I was just foolishly making convo about something I didn’t even know happened until 30 minutes ago.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    All i am saying is doctors were saying he was (and still is) one concusion away from a broken spine. Same situation as TJ Ford. Now you add that he does not have full lung capcity. It just does not look good.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    At least when Tony Parker and other weaklings run into Shaq it’s like hitting a marshmellow wall: it still hurts at high speed but you gotta laugh at its softness.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    14 hours of no SLAM coverage. Ryne promised he would put something up. He has to tell you about some real good Real-Estate he can sell you first!

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    I don’t think Bynum intentionally got him where he thinks it would kill the guy nbk,that’s my point..But if you need to give him a game or 2 to prove a point so be it.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    “jaymes Posted: Jan.28 at 4:02 pm
    NBK..If Bynum goes in a little later or earlier with the same intent and Wallace doesn’t get seriously injured is the foul still as brutal? ”

    To quote a wise man who went on Maury for a DNA test (and was not the father) ‘If IF were a Fifth, we’d all be drunk’. What happened happened jaymes.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Lets apply the Lakers fans logic to a legal case! If the defendant claims he ‘didnt mean to do it’ and he was nervous and pulled the trigger, yet he still killed the man, is he guilty of murder? Lakers fans would aquit him, i would let his a$$ rot in the State Pen. for a while.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    exactly what BET said, Jaymes i am not doubting the dudes intent, but if your drunk and kill someone in a car accident but you didn’t intend to crash isn’t it still your fault? or do you think we should let everyone who does something unintentionally go scott-free? Use some reason

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    yeah….

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    wow. You know something is fu(ked up when me and nbk have the same argument 1 minute apart.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    true that

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Stop ganging up on me you lot!! My standing on the subject is if you play like Gerald Wallace, (someone who drives the lane with purpose), you expect to take hits. Obviously you aren’t expecting a collapsed lung from it, but conversly, on D if you are trying to stop the driver you’ll go at him hard too, and same as the attacker your not expecting to collapse someone’s lung in the process of stopping him..Accidents just happen..

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Wow, people are really saying Bynum doesn’t deserve at LEAST a one game suspension? Really?? Is that you final answer??? F*ck intent, it still happened and he still didn’t go for the ball. The man was in MID-AIR! How he didn’t get a flagrant 2 in the actual game is beyond me. Let Sheed do something like that. He would be ran out of the gym.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    ^Exactly.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    jaymes, i challenge you to watch the video from every angle then come back and say it was a accident. I will just copy and paste my 3:08 comment for you to explain it; “I watched the video about 10 times Allen, it appears Bynum originally intended to hit the ball but then decided to commit a hard foul instead after seeing that was the only way to stop the play. Bynum used force to stop himself from getting dunked on instead of just taking it, he was originally trying to block it but saw it wasnt gonna happen, so he could either A)Get dunked on or B)Commit a hard foul. He choose B which makes him a dirty player and a b!tch.”

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    co-sign Tad.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Jaymes you obvoiusly don’t play basketball, or have not at a real competitive level…..guys go in the key, jump high and take risks assuming the guy trying to block them is not a moron….you should know how to foul, if you’ve ever been undercut, or played in a crappy open gym with some athletes, they will quickly tell you how frustrating it is to play with people that don’t know how to foul. Bynum made a high school play and almost (actually might have) ruined a guys career because of it. Intent or not Bynum was wrong and should be punished for it

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    And i’ll use my comment from earlier BEt.. i don’t think making a hard foul over geting dunked on makes you dirty..

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    if its in mid-air, yes it does.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    jaymes Posted: Jan.28 at 3:34 pm “i’ve played for over 15 years” in your front yard? You have no idea what your talking about if you think it is ok to make a hard foul on a guy who is already going for a dunk. It is actually part of the reason they made the clear lane to the basket rule, so guys would not foul without a chance at the ball

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I can’t believe I’m going to do this………………………………………………………………………………..co-sign NBK @ 4:28p.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And again @ 4:35p. It’s time for me to go!!!!! Get well, Gerald.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    hey thanks Eboy

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    If this was the playground, Bynum would have gotten f*cked up. Bottom line.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Agree Tad, no doubt at all bout that..NBK, clothes-lining someone on the break, Bruce Bowens chippy leg trip B.S and Bynums foul are things that happen in the game..In the spirit of competition or not the sh(t still happens..Thats all i’m saying..

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Matter of fact, I play in my rec league tonight. Now, this is well controlled, decently officiated rec league, but we have some ballers and a few high fliers. If someone were to go flying in for a dunk and I was stuck making a slow transition on D, i’ll let him have that. We are all trying to go to work in the morning.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    But in the L TAD you’d probably try to block him and you may end up popping the guy..right?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Its understandable to make the mistake IMO the league has to do something to keep it from happening again. If that were a smaller player who takes the same risks as Wallace he could have lost his Lung all together. And you would not be making this argument if he would have died just like we would not have made this argument if he didn’t get hurt

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    But trying to block a guy who is already in the air is different then jumping with the guy Jaymes. I think thats what your missing, you don’t make a play on a guy in the air if you dont have a chance at the ball.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    True nbk…

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    I’m watching the Cavs/Lakers game from a week ago and Bynum just swiped at the face of James. If an elbow was involved he’d be laid out.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    It happens though nbk,and accidents can happen in a fast paced league when split second reaction time is required..

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Jaymes, Bynum clearly made a very slow defensive rotation and, at the most, should have stood stationary with his arms extended straight up. But because he decided to turn kind of sideways to Gerald, while the man was in mid-air, and then follow through with his arm motion into his body while not even attempting a swipe at the ball, that is the problem. He should have either let it go or stood with his arms straight up.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Now, i’m not saying Bynum had any intent at all. I don’t believe that. And yes, split second reactions can be blamed for a lot of bad calls or missed calls, but he had time to decide to not follow through with the arm motion. That was stupid.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Bottom line: if he doesn’t get suspended, then Stu Jackson has some explaining to do.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Yeah it was stupid TAD, but do you rub him out for a game or 2, or for a long stretch?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Jaymes you keep admitting that it should not have happened and try and justify it by sayin it happens. I realize it happens but the only way to keep it from happening is to do something about it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Jaymes: I’ve been saying all day at least one game, but two at the most. Without intent, i’m perfectly fine with one.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Like I said earlier, looked like Bynum was late getting over, planned to swipe at the ball, thought he couldn’t manage and then committed a really hard foul. He’s a big dude, so when he hit Wallace in a vulenrable position, it did some damage. I don’t think that makes him a dirty player, or a bad dude, but if Kobe got suspended for swinging his arm around, then Bynum should get suspended for this. End of story.
    I do agree with Jaymes that calling Bynum names and saying he’s a horrible person is over the top.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    who called bynum names lol he is just a dummy for making that kind of mistake.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Allenp..Spot on..NBK i really don’t think you can stop a clumsy act in a split second fast paced game, you just have to live with this sort of thing happening once in a blue moon, unfortunately it happened to Wallace.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    ONCE EVER, is way different then once in a blue moon. And sayin you can’t stop a clumsy act in a split second is contradictory to the fact that you can only make a clumsy act in a split second. The fact that he made the clumsy act at all shows it is a problem that will keep occuring unless something is done to fix it.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Like?

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    And who said once ever? I know Eboy couldn’t remember one but i’m sure a player somewhere has had a busted rib and collapsed lung playin hoops..Happened in just about every other contact sport

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Suspending him for a game and make him go to the hospital and sing gerald wallace a refreshing song. lol i don’t know exactly but that foul was brutal, intended or not

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    The only other Basketball related collapsed lung was from Joakim Noah————————– Star forward Joakim Noah was standing on top of the scorer’s table inside the Georgia Dome s a sea of Gator fans gazed up in awe. As he traditionally does when excited, Noah began to pound on his chest with his right hand. After a minute of this, the 2006 NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player collapsed and was rushed to Piedmont Hospital in Atlanta.

    Doctors quickly diagnosed Noah with a collapsed lung, probably caused by incessant chest pounding. While most of the media wasn’t able to speak with Noah, SSNN reporters were able to sweet-talk their way into the player’s room and ask why he persists in flagellating himself.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Ha ha..maybe some Thelonious Monk or Marvin Gaye might calm the lung, the sh(t’s good for the soul!

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    thats the only other documented high profile (college or nba) collapsed lung related basketball incident. And watch the replay a few more times, what Bynum did was bad

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Bad, but not as evil as it was made out by some other commentors…

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    It was really really bad. I would tend to agree more with the angry commentars then someone who is trying to justify what Bynum did Jaymes. Your wrong for thinking what he did was even acceptable as a mistake. Plain and simple

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Opinions nbk, their like a**holes, everyone has one..I’m trying to think calm and reasonably on the matter, not fly off the handle on a hard foul.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Are you not watching the replay, and are you not paying attention to the results. The fact that it was a brutal foul is not an opinion it is a FACT.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Opinions are like yesterdays.
    Now, that foul against Kurt Rambis was brutal. When James Edward grabbed MJ’s legs and pulled them out from under him, that was brutal.
    What Bynum did was not “brutal.” The result of his actions was terrible, but the actual foul wasn’t that ghastly.
    When I was in college, I was playing pick up tackle football with some friends. One of my homeboys was killing, but on a particular play, I stalked him on the sideline and caught him with a nice lick when he cut back across the field. I didn’t really him that hard, but the impact of my rather large frame and his shoulder hitting the ground, separated his shoulder and left him in agony.
    My hit wasn’t vicious, but the damage it inflicted was. Sometimes that’s how the cookie crumbles. I once clotheslined a dude in pickup football and he wasn’t hurt at all. Another time I unloaded full bore on a cat, no injury. It’s just the luck of the draw sometimes.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    I’ve seen it mate, what i class as brutal clearly isn’t what you class as brutal, hence, different opinions

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Allenp..The voice of reason..Finally!!

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Its Brutal – because he did not make a play for the ball, and he stuck is elbow out. Brutal does not mean intentional allen (i guess that would be an opinion), and the fouls you have explained were intentional. So i guess in a way i am an a**hole for assuming you know my meaning of brutal. But to me a foul like that is the epitomy of brutal

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    NBK
    Dude, you are so sad. Seriously, you are going to call me names for disagreeing with about somethign as subjective as how “brutal” a foul was.
    Let’s get it straight, the day I need you to explain word definitions to me is the day I kill myself. I promise.
    You need to check on the word brutal. Here’s a definition from the American Heritage dictionary:
    Extremely ruthless or cruel.
    Crude or unfeeling in manner or speech.
    Harsh; unrelenting: a brutal winter in the Arctic.
    Disagreeably precise or penetrating: spoke with brutal honesty.
    See, that definiton takes “intent” into account, which means when you call something “brutal” you are also talking about intent. Here are some better words to use:
    devastation
    harsh
    terrible
    fierce
    violent
    All of these words explain the results of the foul, without speculating on the mindset of the fouler. Apparently you can’t grasp this simple concept.
    Try harder.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Haleluja…say it again Allenp!!!

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I don’t think Bynum had “malicious” intent, but what he did was reckless and unfair to other players, and thus deserving of a 1 or 2 game suspension. Whether or not his intent was malicious, that type of lazy play where a guy rotates late, realizes he doesn’t want to get dunked on and then takes a guy out in mid-air should not be tolerated. The league is different now, and we should be glad (atleast for the players sakes) that these types of fouls are not regular occurances. And AllenP basketball is not football, those pads make a BIG difference.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    I did not call you anything Allen but now I am going to call you a b*tch. I explained MY MEANING of a BRUTAL FOUL not the word BRUTAL. ANd I called MYSELF an A**hole. But apparently you can’t read
    Calm yourself and eat a fatty

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    ..and to clarify I agree that Bynum’s action was not “Brutal”, “evil” or even “malicious”. While it was “lazy”, “uneccesary” and “irresponsible”

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Man, I’m done here. I’m CERTAIN that Bynum feels terrible about all this.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    true that ciolk.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk
  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Eat a fatty?
    Brutal the word versus brutal the foul?
    Gotta remember what cats say about arguing with fools. Gotta remember.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Yeah Ciolk, true indeed, and when it’s all said and done i’m sure Wallace will hold no grudges, but he may give him a little sly pay back in future matchups..Not to say Bynum won’t cop his fair share of poundings from other players who share the same view as NBK, BET and Eboy.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    You made a huge mistake reading my comment, sounded dumb, made assumptions, I see why people think the same about you as they do about me. Except I have stopped jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about other people’s comments. Plus I explained before you went to the dictionary that my meaning of brutal in this instance is different. keep trying to sound like a intellectual superior. It is funny

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    @Allen

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    an* sorry didnt want to upset you with my grammer too

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Don’t get me wrong, If I was on the BETcats or if Wallace was one of my homeboys, you can be sure Bynum would feel me the next time we played.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    NBK
    You do realize that the further you go down on the list, the less “accepted” the definitons are, right?
    ruthless and unfeeling implies intent. Brute implies intent. Cold and cold-blooded implies intent.
    You keep missing this point because you might be an idiot.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    NBK
    If you weren’t being snide of demeaning in your explanation of your thoughts then I apologize. Clearly I did not understand your intent and I erred in insulting you.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    I know how a dictionary works Allen stop being snide. And a definition is a definition no matter how far down the list it is. I know what implies intent I am college educated but something can have more then one meaning, especially when talking about a foul on a basketball court. And like I said, I have my own meaning of a Brutal Foul (obviously), but my use of it is not BY DEFINITION (not matter how far down the page) completely wrong.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    NBK, Ryne has it spot on in his words at the top of the Wallace injury post (the one with the clip)IMO..check it out and see if you disagree.

  • Melo Man TO

    I agree with Holly about seeing Melo back on the court….but u gotta admit, His outfits off court help ease the pain

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com Nbk

    Yes I disagree read what I just said Jaymes at the bottom of that Post.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    ^homo

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    I meant Melo Man, not Nbk…that I know of

  • Bernie X

    Bron…? In Cleveland, LeBron goes by LBJ or L-Train…

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    damn, this was a fascinating read. I’m with ciollk, allenp & jaymes on the malicious part, and totally agree with E’s opinion that this woulda caused a ruckus in the golden age nba. Add this to Ariza’s concussion, Adam’s equally dumb foul on Gasol and the 6 game win streak and it’s safe to say that the next meeting of both teams might get chippy.

  • MeloMan13

    i dont see how Anton. im just showin love to another brotha for his sence in style

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