Wednesday, January 28th, 2009 at 6:02 pm  |  64 responses

Top Point Guard Draft Prospects

Volume 2.

by Jeff Fox

The 2009 NBA Draft point guard class offers plenty of intrigue, even without a certain Spanish senor tossing his hat into the ring. There’s an American in Europe, a bunch of shooting guards trapped in point guard bodies, undersized playmakers and a “small” school point guard who could be the best of the bunch.

Here is where Draft 365 currently has these primo point guards ranked, with our preseason ranking in brackets.

1. Brandon Jennings – Italy – 1989 (2)
When it comes to experience, none of the other guys on this list come close to matching BJ. While there has been much ado about his difficulties in Europe, lets be perfectly honest—the dude is making over a $1 million to play basketball in one of the world’s most famous cities. In the grand scheme of things, the kid is doing alright.

While his performance and playing time has been sporadic—29 minutes one game, 9 minutes the next—he is playing against the top competition outside of the NBA and hasn’t hurt his draft stock in the least.

2. Stephen Curry – Davidson – JR (No. 4, shooting guard)
He’s not really a point guard but he plays one on TV. Considering we don’t plan on writing a “Top 5 Combo Guard” column, Dell’s little boy will be on our point guard list. Whether or not he plays the point in the pros will probably An NBA point guard?depend on what team drafts him. He has proven this year that he is quite capable of running the point in the college ranks, while still scoring almost 30 ppg against constant double and triple teams. He also is taking relatively good care of the ball and is a good playmaker. He might not be an NBA star but probably won’t be a NBA bust, either.

3. Jeff Teague – Wake Forest – SO (NR)
Next to Kentucky’s Jodie Meeks, Jeff Teague is probably the biggest surprise of the season. His numbers, while playing in one of the top conferences on a team formerly ranked No. 1 overall, are astounding. 54 percent shooting from the floor. 53 percent from deep. 83 percent from the line. About 22 points, 4 boards, 4 dimes and 2 steals per game. 34 points, 6 boards and 4 assists in a win over North Carolina.

Now the fine print. Despite being 6-2, 180 pounds, he’s not really a point guard. He has almost as many turnovers than assists. To excel in the NBA, he will have to prove that he has the goods to run the point. But all the tools are there. Consider him an Allen Iverson-lite.

4. Eric Maynor – VCU – SR (5)
Some are calling Eric Maynor the best pure point guard in the class. He definitely has the complete package – scoring (22 ppg), dishing (6 dimes) and boarding (4 rebounds) with the ability to knock down shots from everywhere on the floor, including out behind the arc. He also takes very good care of the ball. He doesn’t play in one of the top conferences, however, and when he did play, one of the top teams this year—Oklahoma—he laid an 5-19 egg with 8 turnovers.

5. Darren Collison – UCLA – SR (4)

Darren Colliso’s UCLA squad has been a major disappointment this season, but the senior playmaker is as steady as ever. His shooting touch, despite being ugly, is still highly effective—he’s only missed 3 free throws (out of 67) all season and is good for one to two long-bombs a game. He is still a top-notch defender and playmaker, with a stellar 2.55 assist-to-turnover ratio. He might not be star material—he probably is too small and not explosive enough—but he could be a steady back up/occasional starting point guard for a long time in the NBA.

Next in line:
Ty Lawson, North Carolina; Patrick Mills, Saint Mary’s; Jeremy Pargo, Gonzaga; Greivis Vasquez, Maryland; Curtis Jerrells, Baylor.

Not expected to enter draft:
Ricky Rubio, Spain; Jrue Holiday, UCLA.

Jeff Fox also writes about college hoops and the NBA draft at College Hoops Net.

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  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Where the hell is the kid from Syracuse?! I’m forgetting his name right now…hold on.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    Jeff, love the updated list! Glad to see Jennings get his due. Also his playing time issues are nothing to do with his play, everything to do with the Euroleague system in which young players get rare minutes in a loaded league (Even BARN-YAAAAANI [everyone loves phonetic spelling] had issues getting time on Panathaniokos (definitely check spelling on that Jeff)). Also, I think Teague is playing better than Curry and has more potential than Curry personally, but that’s just me. Like you said, his numbers are ridiculous & are definitely in a tougher setting than Curry’s league. I also think that Collison should not be ahead of Curtis Jerrells from a draft standpoint. Collison is an undersized, underathletic for his position, by all accounts he’s just a “solid college player”. Similar to an Aaron Miles- good college player, wont do much if anything in the league.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    Johnny Flynn? Yeah he is solid as well. Who do you put him above by the way ciolkstar?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Johnny Flynn!!!!! In fact, I think I like him better than everyone on this list (besides Jennings, I guess, I haven’t seen him play enough to form an opinion)

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Teague is really not a PG IMO, but he’ll be a solid pro. Think: Lou Williams.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I always laughed at Bilas who unrepentantly slobs Collison. Especially last season, calling him the “best PG in the nation” when he clearly wasn’t even the best PG on his own team.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    Teague isn’t a true PG, but like Jeff said, he won’t be doing a combo guard piece. I think he has more potential than Lou Williams, I’m thinking Gilbert Arenas. And Ciolkstar, I wont say take it from me, but I’ve seen him play in person MULTIPLE times, met him yadda yadda yadda- dude is for real. He’s NBA ready. His stats aren’t super high because his coach limits him severely. Euroleague coaches are notorious for limiting and being ridiculous about the playing time of young adults. Trust me. Unless your name is Drazen Petrovic (RIP), you aren’t getting major minutes as somebody under 21. (I brought up DP because he was a HERO in Euroleague play and set the stage for proving European products could make it in the NBA. He became a 20 PPG scorer in the NBA before dying in a car crash. RIP RIP RIP. Without DP you don’t have Dirk getting drafted at age 19. Without him you don’t have this influx of European draftees. DP is to European players what DR J is to the highflyers of today.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Teague’s numbers are absolutely ridiculous. I have to show him some love. I guess I’d put Flynn third, but I’m shocked he doesn’t even get a mention here.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    Jeff, he might not go pro this upcoming draft, that might be why.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    ciolkstar* sorry, haha Teague on my mind, i typed his name instead of your handle! aha

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I’ve seen some of Petrovich, the guy was a serious player. And I’ve heard nothing but great things about Jennings from a bunch of people who’s opinions I trust (yours included) So I believe in his talent. I’m just a big Johnny Flynn fan, and think he’s the closest thing to Chris Paul that exists in the college game. He’s not at that level yet, but he’s got the stocky build, handles, passing skills and mean streak that have made Paul unguardable. There may be something scouts know that I don’t, but, to me, he’s a glaring omission.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Ahhh, that makes sense. I’d actually be really happy to see him stay in school for one more season. But, if he stays healthy, I have no doubts about that guy’s pro potential.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    Flynn is a huge talent. But at Syracuse, it seems PG’s always go overlooked! Most scouts agree Flynn is seriously talented, and he will get drafted 1st round I believe, remember it’s a severely shallow draft this year.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Yeah, I’m glad you agree. I haven’t heard much hype about him, and that may have to do with him being at ‘Cuse. But he impresses the sh!t out of me everytime I see him play.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    not to say Cuse players dont get drafted or that they don’t get hype. Just saying ‘Cuse guards don’t go super high in the draft much. It’s more of a school for forwards

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Yeah, Carmelo really solidified that I guess. Although Donta Greene slipped a lot last season, but that may have had more to do with maturity than anything else. I think he came out too early anyway.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    Never forget about Hakim Warrick :) And yes, he came out early, but scouts just LOVE his versatility. That size with his shooting ability. Yum

  • http://www.collegehoopsnet.com Jeff Fox

    Flynn isn’t included because I don’t expect him to enter this draft.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I’m out. My workday is(finally)over! Go Blue Devils!

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    in reference to his shooting ability i mean Greene not Warrick

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    Fox, I figured that was why. It’s not like you don’t know your stuff! Alright guys, peace out. DUKE V WAKE TONIGHT. We can see good ol’ Teague play tonight

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Thanks for the clarification Jeff. Like I said, I’d be happy if he stays. Although the perceived lack of depth in this draft could influence his decision…

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    Patty Mills is the real deal, killed it at the olympics and made everyone else look slow(especially Deron, kidd and Paul)..should be in the 5..But i may be just a little biased.

  • Dre

    Ty Lawson is a true PG and is definitely high on a few NBA teams radar. B. Jennings playing time is a result of his team even though his coach has publicly criticized his play quite often his team does a rotation per game with a lot of youth. However every team in Europe doesn’t do that… perfect example Calderon, Fernandez, and Rodriguez. They were young and in Spain they got tons of PT because their play dictated it.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Johnny Flynn is going to be a huge steal whoever drafts him.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Tywon Lawson, too.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Also, sort of unrelated, but BLAKE GRIFFIN SUCKS. HUUUUUGE BUST when he’s drafted, especially if he’s 1st pick.
    Brandon Jennings is going to be so good.

  • a_whiteman

    There’s a kid with dreads on arkansas, his last name is fortson. He’s a 5’11 freshman, but is putting up 15 5 and 5, he should be on some part of this list

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    SHERRON COLLINS OWNS EVERYONE ON THAT LIST.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    have fun never being half as good as CP3

  • http://fdklf.com Jukai

    Dre: Also, Rubio.

  • http://fdklf.com Jukai

    It’s too bad Rubio’s not goin’ into the draft. That dude totally blows all these guys out of the water. Respect for Jennings, but the rest of the field is rather weak.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    jaymes you aint biased…Patty Mills should have been on that list just under Jennings…. He will go pro a year or so from now and will be AWESOME. He’ll have Leandro Barbosa type quickness with…. he’ll be great. Which ever team he goes to will be my new second favourite when he’s drafted.

  • Ben

    Let’s be honest about Mills, he really needs to reduce his assists/turnover ratio. Sometimes he gets a bit out of control and tries to drive through the whole defence. He also needs to shoot a higher percentage from the floor. He’s a solid defensive ball handler and excellent at pushing the ball but he doesn’t really have serious 1 on 1 moves to use with his quickness like many of the US guys do, nor a CP3 yoyo play-maker handle he’s got a more fundamental handle. But to Scouts salivate about his ability to push the ball, see the floor and make the pass or get himself a shot off the dribble or that layup, as well as play on the ball D? No doubt.

  • jay

    where to put ricky rubio if he came out…hmmm

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    My boy nick calathes gets no love! (other than me and our EIC) the soph busted a triple double last night v Georgia! College trip-doubs are unheard of mind you.
    I would add bc’s tyrese rice in this group, too.
    NBA pgs were often ridiculous college scorers! Scottie Reynolds?
    I like Jonny flynn a lot.

    Teddy, c’mon.I am trying hard to ignore that blake griffin is going to be a bust comment…….yeah, a smart, under-control,rebounding-machine, team-player with little ego that goes a legit 6-10 250 and can jump out of the gym smells like bust to me!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    “When it comes to experience, none of the other guys on this list come close to matching BJ”
    -
    I apologize, I didn’t even get past this sentence. A person with a dirty mind could take this about 20 different ways.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Also, who says Syracuse isn’t known for guards? Anyone ever heard of Sherman Douglas?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    Thank you TAD, that confused me a bit too.
    Pearl wasington. Lawrence moten, sherm,…..
    So how many ways did u take it? Like 30?
    Does jennings really have more experience than say a seasoned college player just because of a couple months getting inconsistent playing time in europe?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    Those old Cuse names probably date us a bit, TAD.

    My family had just moved to Denver when Keith Smart hit that baseline j to sink sherm, rony, dc, and the orange.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Damn, forgot about Pearl. Syracuse is a basketball factory, period. And Cub, I can’t say for sure with Jennings. I hear different things about the overseas leagues. I do think that him playing with grown men everyday in practice who aren’t taking it easy on him is surely improving his play and fundamentals. Of course, coaches need game tape in order to fully evaluate players and Brandon will be short on that playing overseas.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    Agreed on the grown man comp, which is surely going to improve his game (and did mine getting beat up by men at the downtown Denver YMCA during offseasons) but college players play all summer against grown (often pro) guys, too. I need to see some games (not highlights) of Brandon.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    sorry I didn’t give my love to the ‘cuse guards. I just meant as of late (since about Melo) no ‘cuse guards have really gone bananas in the draft. and Courtney Fortson is very talented to whoever asked earlier, but he won’t go one and done, he isn’t even thinking about going pro after this year.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Understandable Justin. Flynn is going to change that, and soon. Oh, and Courtney Fortson has some damn hops!

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    TAD, I know, we covered him in HS. He has SKILLS. Looks a bit like Lil Wayne to be honest, haha. Also CUB, no need to bury me like that :-P haha. Oh, by the way Cub, have you ever known much about the Oral Roberts squad? Not the Ken Tut, Caleb Green led Golden Eagles, I mean a few years before, like ’02 and 03, when Markius Barnes OWNED the conference. I was wondering if you ever watched him play or anything because he coached me in AAU and taught me the game. He’s overseas playing Euroleague now. Actually he’s been doing that since college, almost made it to the NBA, was on the mavs summer league team and got cut when he tore his MCL and ACL in 04

  • BigWalt206

    If Jrue is on the not expected to enter list (which would give ucla TWO pgs on this list btw) than I think I must point out that not only does Isiah Thomas OWN Jrue (who either had a terrible game when I saw him on Sat or is severely over rated) but Mr. Collison didn’t look any better guarding the freshmen sensation…there is a west coast outside of LA, shocker I know…

  • Kelvin Powell

    What about Florida State’s Toney Douglas?

  • http://www.ballislife.com Justin Walsh

    BigWalt, nobody is sleeping on Isaiah Thomas, he is killing in the PAC10. and Jrue isn’t the overrated portion of the UCLA backcourt, it’s Collison. He isn’t able to be the true Jrue PG because Collison has seniority and he’s still on most NBA scouts top 10 boards.

  • BigWalt206

    also, for those of you out east or those of you who don’t follow the PAC10 (the best sports conference period!), here is a little heads up on the new Zeke http://gohuskies.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/012909aaa.html
    and a little earlier
    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/preps/255798_thomas16.html

    now go find some video of him yourself, I’m telling you this kid is sick!

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