Who Will Come off the Bench: Hamilton or Iverson?

i am not going to wait for never because thats how long its been

NBK
That’s bullsh(it about the Suns. They did not change their style of play which was the reason why Mikey D got shown the damn door and Shaq was complaining about his lack of touches. That was a bullsh(it answer by you. The Suns still ran all the time when they first got Shaq, which was one of the reasons why Amare was still flourishing.
I never siad that Detroit was going to be successful this year. I said that it’s highly unlikely that they are going to start running out of the blue because that doesn’t happen in the league. I’ve proven that point.
However, typically, when teams acquire new players it’s the player’s job to adjust, not the team’s. Iverson has adjusted pretty well, outside of a shooting slump.

uhm they did not run like they used to allen i watched every single game. And just like a team should they changed what they did. Ofcourse D’Antoni stuck to his running principles but they slowed down drastically after they got shaq acclamated (spelling my bad). And Amare Scored a lot of his points when he flourished last year off of shaq in the post in half court then in transition.

Really NBK do you expect the Pistons to start running now?

no but they should….i do not think michael curry is a creative enough coach to incorporate running into their system. See what jukai seems to misunderstand is you can keep your system while making small changes. Like say run on all defensive rebounds try and create mismatches for your one on one players to do what they do best. Just one thing they can do to take advantage of the unique skillset they have on their team.

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NBK
Mike D got shown the door. Believe what you want. He was pushed out and his contract was not renewed. The Suns kept running after they got Shaq. They were still a running team. They are not a running team this year.
Detroit has changed their offense since they’ve gotten Iverson. They run more plays with Prince at the one. But, they are not going to morph into a running team with the roster they have. They run selectively.

NBK
Let’s see:
1. You consistently tell everybody else they don’t know what they’re talking about, but everybody on this site without exception thinks you are full of crap.
2. Now, generally I don’t care what the masses think, but given the fact that you have NO supporters, you might want to rethink whether everybody else is as dumb as you think they are.
3. Finally, stop trotting out your basketball playing history as proof that you know stuff. Lawrence Frank never played basketball, he’s knows a lot of stuff. Jeff Van Gundy and Stan Van Gundy as well. That is all.

I told jukai he didn’t know what he was talking about allen- I also coach aau – have helped coach high school – and made a college team if that makes you happier. I do not want to brag about my experience but when people say things that have no basketball clout it is embarassing that people think it is right. Especially on slam the only site where you can talk openly about your opinions on basketball. And given the fact that the “masses” (jukai, bet, allen) hardly the masses all disagree with me does not matter to me because it is based off of a wrong idea about the topic.

Hmm..this is all happening because Stuckey has become a decent player…?? I’m thinking this stuckey kid is professional enough to go back to the bench….

BET…I’ll split you 50/50.

Yeah but then you give Sheed an excuse to stay on the perimeter, he already spends to much time there for a post up player IMO.

why not use it to your advantage jaymes? Why are you looking at it like he won’t be in the post instead of he will be out there anyway?

Dear Nbk,

I am only writting this because i am worried about you. I can sum it up in song: “Everywhere you go people want to know who you are so you tell them I am the dumba$$ the allmighty dumba$$. But i think my views rule all so you suck.’

NBK try and be more open minded. Because i really think you are here to say the opposite of logic. Anyone who thinks sh!t thru would not say 1/4 the garbage you say. The pistons throw lobs? David West sucks? COME ON MAN USE YOUR BRAIN.

Or maybe you are really retarded. In which case, i retract all my words towards you.

BUT i know you are smart. Nobody can argue for such long times about such stupid ideas the way you do. Which means you are here to mess with us.

STOP

Love,
BETCATS

I understand what you mean jaymes i am sayin in transition though, not have him be the trailer to every play. Just when he is under the basket or inbounding the ball after defensive sets. But JUST IN TRANSITION, not in the half-court they would be toasted every game if Sheed got a 3pter every time complex.

me uneducated about the game. If their was basketball school i would be a PHD scholar and you would be the drunk homeless guy in p!ss-stained rags asking for change outside my classroom’s door.

I got about half way down…and it started looking like everyone was repeating themselves…..so I’m going to just jump in and make some comments…. [nbk] Thinks that Detroit would be more successful if they ran more ( I take that you mean, they became a ‘running team’). But as nbk himself pointed out they arent a great rebounding unit overall…so I would say that those two traits need to work in hand….you want your three ball handlers to run??? You gotta rebound…and Rasheed wont RUN like that…thats not what he signed on for.
[nbk] made these points. I think they sound right but there’s more too it – [nbk] I feel you stipulated that certain success would come from running more. I don’t agree with that thought. They made the ECF for years in a row based on the slow-down approach and turning that team into a faster team would make them worse for the very ‘flaws’ you felt Detroit have.
Once again [nbk] pushed a particular point just that little bit too much to get things fired up….
I love Wednesdays.

Hump day for us Dacre..but you can understand the Seppo’s being uptight..Tueday’s a prick of aday..

jaymes…yeah. Mind you for me its accentuated even more so, I work from Tuesday – Thursday so Tuesdays feel like Mondays, BUT Thursdays feel like Fridays… I’m in all kinds of crazy.
Go Suns…

This is exhausting. I don’t think Detroit should try to change into a “running team” and I’m sure they won’t.

every thread ends up feeling like that ‘TMac’ thread…

Its not like it matters what they do…no one is taking down cleveland..or even boston for that matter, so do whatever you feel like Curry! Dont bench my childhood idol Iverson though…that will make me feel like my time on this earth is going by faster and faster. I still remember when AI dropped like 40 in 5 straight games as a rookie.

This debate doesn’t interest me anymore but I want to add this :
1) AI has not lost a step yet. Which is quite remarkable. Give him a team full of blue collars that don’t want to shoot like his old Sixers and he will still drop 30 on your a– every day all day.
2) Nash is quick but not fast. Well, not THAT fast. He has an excellent first step but I don’t think he can hang with Iverson and Rip in a foot race down the court. Quick =/= Fast.

i liked iverson and muntumbo/eric snow they got a game from the lakers in o1 iverson needs to start anywhere he plays. but for the sake of detroit he could come in after 5 min and play 30 strong min…a night and still shoot 15 -20 times

Iverson can’t come off the bench!!!! Please tell me there’s a rule that says he can’t!