Portland’s Amare Bid

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• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 10:33 am
  Wow… now THAT trade I like! Pull this one Phoenix! Get a guy who can play with Shaq, a combo guard who can back up Nash, and this crappy expiring contract you love! Send Amare to Portland, that backcourt would be drop dead sexy!

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 10:36 am
  Uh… funny, that trade failed on ESPN’s trade machine. Better throw in one of those point guards.

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 10:38 am
  Hey, here is one that works: Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire for Webster/Outlaw, Bayless, LaFrentz, Blake, and Aldridge…
  Does a starting lineup of Nash, Roy, Fernandez, Amare, and Oden make anyone else drool?

• Squirrel7 Posted: Feb.11 at 10:42 am
  I can’t surely be the only one who would rather keep Aldridge than bring in Amare? And even if I am, I just felt someone other than Jukai needed to post!

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 10:42 am
  You could also switch out Blake with Sergio Rodriguez… give Phoenix another up and coming.

• Gumdrop Posted: Feb.11 at 10:43 am
  I think the Blazers are giving up too much if the above goes down. Sarver is desperate for savings so teams can milk him.

• TADOne Posted: Feb.11 at 10:44 am
  Um, please explain why the f*ck Portland would even consider that?

• Wiz Posted: Feb.11 at 10:45 am
  Dam if the suns really wanna ship out amare then this is the best trade. You spread out the middle for shaq with aldridge and bayless Is a good back up for nash.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Feb.11 at 10:45 am
  *surely can’t

• rainman10 Posted: Feb.11 at 10:46 am
  Thats a nice trade for Phoenix, good for Portland too. But if I’m the Suns I’m looking for a decent perimeter defender in return. I’m not hearing Nocioni’s name in those Bulls rumors, but bringing him and Gooden/Thomas and a pick would be nice. Nocioni can play the 4 some and spread it for PHO more than Amare does.

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 10:46 am
  This isn’t really such a bad deal for Portland, guys. Amare is way better than LaMarcus Aldridge, it’s not even funny.

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 10:49 am
  Okay, after playing around with ESPN’s trade machine for four minutes (that’s the limit of my attention span), I’ve come up with a trade that would make me super happy but will never happen because Kerr wants Nash to die of depression in Phoenix for daring to challenge the Spurs:
  Amare and Nash
  for
  Bayless (young talent), Aldridge (young talent), Rodriguez (young talent), LaFrentz (expiring), Frye (expiring).
  Portland is instantly an NBA finals contender (no, really!) and Phoenix remains exciting with Bayless and Barbosa running the ship but also has their expirings.
  Anyway, feel free to criticize, guys.

• Squirrel7 Posted: Feb.11 at 10:50 am
  I think Aldridge has a huge upside, he’s only a few years in to the league. Whereas I don’t see Amare getting any better than he is, and his poor defense will prevent him ever achieving as much as he should.

• TADOne Posted: Feb.11 at 10:50 am
  Not sure about WAY better. Aldridge is really good and he is younger.

• rainman10 Posted: Feb.11 at 10:51 am
  Bayless and Barbosa “running the ship”? Sounds like titanic.

• TADOne Posted: Feb.11 at 10:53 am
  If this trade was really proposed by Portland, I wouldn’t have even hesitated pulling the trigger if I was Sarver.

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 10:55 am
  rainman10: never said they’d win, just said it’d be exciting.

• Ritchie Posted: Feb.11 at 10:57 am
  Aldridge plays D to.

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 11:00 am
  Everyone: I don’t think Aldridge has the upside that you guys think he has. I can’t see him improving much over the years… I really think this trade benefits Portland greatly. That being said, if any trade had to take place, this would be the one for me.

• Darksaber Posted: Feb.11 at 11:03 am
  stat is not as complete as lamarcus. blazers should let their great nucleus grow together. lots of youngsters eager to make a name in the nba. hungry talent trumps overinflated ego any day

• BETCATS Posted: Feb.11 at 11:14 am
  LaMarcus and Jerryd would fit into Terry Porter’s system. This is a good idea.

• Cheryl Posted: Feb.11 at 11:25 am
  I don’t know if I’d give up Aldridge for Amare. I’d have to think long and hard about that one. Does it make Portland a contender? If not, why give up a kid that could eventually become Amare with better defense.

• Tavoris Posted: Feb.11 at 11:26 am
  there’s no way I’m giving up Aldridge for STAT. Sure, Stoudemire may be a better pure scorer, but they are equal rebounders, and Aldridge is far and a away a better individual and team defender. Plus, Aldridge is unselfish.

• Collin Posted: Feb.11 at 11:37 am
  NO!!!!! Aldridge is a future superstar (and plays D) and Bayless has a lot of potential. i am the biggest blazer fan in the world, and if this deal went down, i would be PISSED!! why int the hell would portland give up aldridge anyway, he and Roy are the franchise players.

• carter Posted: Feb.11 at 11:46 am
  how bout this Stat and Hill for marion? I know its not portland but it would help miami!!!

• SLAM ONLINE | Posted: Feb.11 at 11:47 am
  [...] Blazers Make Offer For Amar’e [...]

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 11:47 am
  Carter, are you posting on different nicknames talking about the same garbage trade over and over again?

• RV Posted: Feb.11 at 11:48 am
  Portalnd would be stupid for doing that. Amare is still young, but older than portland’s core and i don’t see him adding anything Lamarcus won’t be able to in a couple years. Keep the core together, let them grow together, and they’ll be winning rings together.

• Moose Posted: Feb.11 at 11:51 am
  Ahhh, I don’t like this if I’m Portland.

• Jukai Posted: Feb.11 at 11:52 am
  Hmmm.. you guys are really down on STAT. I really think the defensive difference between Aldridge and STAT is about as wide as the OFFENSIVE difference between Aldridge and STAT. Stat is just as good of a jump shooter but has better range, is superior driving to the basket in every way, shape or form (Aldridge has some explosion but is on the slow side), is more athletic even after two knee surgeries, plays better without the ball which is GREAT since it’ll be in Brandon Roy’s hands. Amare is worth this trade, for sure.
  Or maybe I’m wrong, since quite a lot of you disagree.

• TADOne Posted: Feb.11 at 12:20 pm
  Jukai: Um, where were you earlier this week and last week when I was defending Amare when people were saying Bosh was WAY better and saying Amare isn’t that good, he is overrated, etc? Just wondering. I love Amare. I am quite aware of his defensive liabilities and his aversion to rebounding, but he is an offensive terror and a top-10 league talent.
  -
  With all that being said, i’m thinking you are quite a bit down on Aldridge and his game. LaMarcus is a much better offensive player then you are making him out to be.

• riggs Posted: Feb.11 at 12:21 pm
  HELL NO! LA is one of the reasons i love the blazers, let their young team grow together man

• Phil B Posted: Feb.11 at 12:29 pm
  the reason this trade is made up is because suns would have already accepted if this were real. the rumors i’m hearing is that portland is trying to get amare but without giving up lamarcus. how they’ll do that and where they’ll play both of them, i have no idea.

• tom Posted: Feb.11 at 12:35 pm
  STAT to LA for odom, eventually some sidekicks added. I think its a great fit for players and clubs

• TADOne Posted: Feb.11 at 12:39 pm
  The Suns will not be making ANY deals with the Lakers. I think Sarver would rather sell his soul.

• ciolkstar Posted: Feb.11 at 12:43 pm
  Whoever said Aldridge plays D probably hasn’t watched him play that much. His midrange game is much better than Amare’s, but he’s not nearly as explosive. I like Aldridge as a player but he disappears in some games, especially on the glass, and seems to have a lot of the same problems Amare does without much of the upside. He is younger though. That said, I’m not sure if Amamre is a legit “Franchise Player”, but Roy certainly is. I just wonder if Amare could handle being the 2nd guy for a long time.

• JD Posted: Feb.11 at 12:43 pm
  I can’t imagine STAT who just want to be “the man” play for Portland – my suggestion is to keep Aldridge, Stat is a great scorer but some how I just don’t think he will fit in with Portland’s system.

• ciolkstar Posted: Feb.11 at 12:45 pm
  On second thought Amare probably is a “Franchise Player”, but probably only for a really crappy franchise. I just don’t see a team winning a ring with him as their best player.

• Bryan Posted: Feb.11 at 1:09 pm
  Aldridge is good and all but he’s no amare not even close.

• Son of Shawn Posted: Feb.11 at 1:10 pm
  I don´t know if it´s a good trade or not (AI for Chauncey makes me be cautious), but I think that Portland (with or without McMillan) have to find a way to avoid being the most boring team in the NBA, because they´ve a tremendous roster to play great B-ball (give those players to Adelman and you´ll see what showtime really is)

• miguel024 Posted: Feb.11 at 1:12 pm
  this is retarded, we’d actually get worse from this, no to mention LA routinely dominates Amare every time we play, Amare is only who he is because of Steve Nash and Mikey D

• Wongtouski Posted: Feb.11 at 1:16 pm
  TERRIBLE TRADE FOR PORTLAND

• niQ Posted: Feb.11 at 1:17 pm
  why? portland is doing so well already…

• Cwick Posted: Feb.11 at 1:42 pm
  Studemire for LaMarcus, great for the Blazers.
  Bayless is a baller, but the Blazers have two guards developing in Europe. works for both teams.

• Joey E. Posted: Feb.11 at 1:56 pm
  these dude’s are the same. this trade changes NOTHING

• a_whiteman Posted: Feb.11 at 2:01 pm
  I wouldn’t break that core up, they are destined for great things. And I thought amare didn’t want to be 2nd fiddle???

• a_whiteman Posted: Feb.11 at 2:03 pm
  And they would regret giving up bayless in the future

• Anton Posted: Feb.11 at 2:03 pm
  Tell me how Darius Miles’ contract taste.

• Blinguo Posted: Feb.11 at 2:08 pm
  NBA trade talks, where you find out guys like Raef LaFrentz and Keith Van Horn are still somehow around(*), happens. *(and getting that money man)

• Josh D Posted: Feb.11 at 2:22 pm
  Phoenix would come up shorthanded in the short term,and maybe in the long run,too. I like Aldrige, but he may not turn out to be as good as stoudemire is, he might, but i don’t think so.

• Allenp Posted: Feb.11 at 2:28 pm
  Amare and Aldridge can both be inconsistent on the glass and on defense, although Aldridge is the better defender when focused. Amare just lacks defensive fundamentals, he’s damn near clueless.
  However, Amare is better on offense. He’s much more of an attacker.
  He’s also more of a pouter and Nate McMillian is a hard@ss. I can see he and Amare having problems.
  But Portland doens’t lose much with this trade. The take care of their backlog in the backcourt. Have a certified stud to pair with Roy to see how it pans out in the next two years and then can trade Amare or cut their losses in free agency. After all Amare and Odom should complement each other well.

• Allenp Posted: Feb.11 at 2:29 pm
  my bad. Oden.

• Michael NZ Posted: Feb.11 at 2:36 pm
  Portland would be so foolish.

• Michael NZ Posted: Feb.11 at 2:37 pm
  To do that trade.

• witness Posted: Feb.11 at 3:17 pm
  if the blazers know what good for them theyn wouldnt do this trade.

• 007 Posted: Feb.11 at 3:18 pm
  this is dumb for portland.

• JESSEG Posted: Feb.11 at 3:35 pm
  I laugh at people saying this is stupid for portland! Amare is a beast. 4 months ago a lot of people thought he would be MVP this year! It’s just the Suns are stupid. Anybody notice that when the Suns made Amare less of a focal point on their team they are a lot worse? Not a coincidence. I watch every Suns game and the Suns are going to regret trading Amare.

• Hersey Posted: Feb.11 at 3:43 pm
  This deal would be good for both teams. Portland is loaded but I don’t see a clear pecking order on that team. Roy takes over games but I see Outlaw, Blake and Fernandez etc taking big shots. To win in the playoffs they need a big who can get to the line. I don’t buy LA eventually being Amare with better defense. There is no way to project that when he’s a perimeter 4 now and has worse rebounding numbers than Amare. Amare developed his jumpshot seasons 3-5. Is LA going to further develop his nastiness taking it to the rim in the coming seasons? The fact is Amare is a proven commodity and adding that to a team that hasn’t been to the playoffs with this coach or roster would push Portland into the elite level much faster and give Phoenix some solid young players to build around. Sounds like a good trade to me.

• Z Posted: Feb.11 at 3:46 pm
  That would be a good deal for both teams. Oden can cover for Amar’e on D. Amar’e would always be matched up with the weaker big. Aldridge is not THAT nice. He boards even less than STAT at under 7(!) a game. If I were Portland, I’d try to include someone else than Bayless though. The kid looks like the real deal. Yeah, he’s not a pure 1 but you don’t need him to be with a playmaker like Roy at the 2. The playmakers like Roy, James, Wade, Kobe (when he wants to) don’t need a pure 1 because they’re the ones that create. They just need someone to bring the ball up, play D and knock down shots. Bayless can do that IMO. (+ I don’t like Blake nor Rodriguez)

• Brina22 Posted: Feb.11 at 3:52 pm
  Please no….Blazers don’t need Stoudemire…just sit tight with LMA. This is a trade that Bob Whitsitt would have made 9 years ago, and look what he did to the franchise. Don’t make a trade, just for the sake of making a trade.

• h00paholic@hotmail.com Posted: Feb.11 at 3:57 pm
  right now…….is what we are talking……….and right now a amare, aldridge trade would be good for portland and rip city………..hands down!

• h00paholic@hotmail.com Posted: Feb.11 at 3:58 pm
  oden stat straight across…………..

• JE Posted: Feb.11 at 4:14 pm
  Jukai: It’s probably the original deal reported, but with Lopez or Tucker thrown in to make it work. Probably just didn’t consider it worth mentioning. But as a fan of both teams, I’d like to see it happen.

• donlaker Posted: Feb.11 at 4:15 pm
  so what is greg oden a power foward , amare statamire should go east young man… and what to do with lamarcus alridge are they winning it all(this year)if the big stat goes to oregon
  2 years in a row the lakers make other teams make moves to combat them (suns-mavs) etc.(like mutumbo, i say no no no no no no )

• chitown Posted: Feb.11 at 4:16 pm
  The best deal out there might not happen if tyrus thomas keeps balling the way he has been as he is playing the most consistent ball of his career. Phoenix really likes him I here and also thabo.

• PDXFAN Posted: Feb.11 at 4:25 pm
  This trade will not happen. Why would we give up that much talent to bring in somebody that won’t mesh w/ Greg Oden, and doesn’t really seem interested in playing hard. Moreover, if it’s being reported on the internet, Kevin Pritchard is no longer involved in the talks.

• Michael NZ Posted: Feb.11 at 5:04 pm
  Can Amare mesh with damn anyone?

• slamfan4life Posted: Feb.11 at 5:20 pm
  Pretty sure Suns dont want GO and AS to kick they ass in the West, if they gonna trade him id give him to da East and get a young good guy (Tyrus Thomas)

• nbk Posted: Feb.11 at 5:48 pm
  This is the most perfect trade the Suns can do. They get an LB replacement in JB, who will also help spell some of Nash’s minuts. Alrdridge will end up more effective then stoudemire in the long run. thiNk sheed and antonio mcdyess (amare being antonio, and alrdridge being sheed). I have had the privelege of seeing McDyess and Stoudemire playing at their best and their games are really not that much different. Except how Amar’e heals from Surgery and how terrible he is at D

• nbk Posted: Feb.11 at 5:50 pm
  For Clarification- I think LB is the only other player we have that can be traded for something worth what you would be giving up. Bayless being his replacement is in my fantasy world that he too will be traded

• thesubwayconnection Posted: Feb.11 at 6:26 pm
  Portland would be dumb to get rid of Aldridge for Amar’e.

• dma Posted: Feb.11 at 7:28 pm
  what’s in it for portland besides the potential to rent amare. he’s not happy in phoenix being 2nd next to shaq. how’s he gonna handle roy dominating the ball and alongside oden?

• jub_al Posted: Feb.11 at 7:55 pm
  dma: i think the difference is that Roy is willing to sacrifice and involve amare a little more, while Shaq believes he’s the center of the universe and the offense should gravitate towards him… i think the situation is different when you have a big and a guard both wanting the ball as opposed to two bigs both wanting the ball… i like the trade…now if they could somehow involve my man GHill into the trade as well.. Oden, STAT, GHill, Roy and Blake for a starting 5 anybody?

• MalevolentKing7242 Posted: Feb.11 at 8:40 pm
  Screw the Bulls deal! This one owns that! It benifits both, blazers get a athletic big man and the suns will get a MUCH youngr cast of players mind larentez

• JD Posted: Feb.11 at 9:48 pm
  if Amare is so good then why is Fenix sorry this year. he has a really bad attitude and he’s not even trying to win. While LA may not be better now, he actually plays D and is a more all round player with more range on his jumper. Amare is a quitter, just look at all the losses they’re racking up. Sure blame it all on Terry Porter, when really it’s the economy and Steve Kerr’s fault for bringing in old man O’Neal. All these offers make me want to puke and this is coming from someone who cheered for Phoenix in the playoffs the last 4 years.

• Hubert Posted: Feb.11 at 10:25 pm
  so no one remembered Phoenix WILL NOT make deals with any team from the west?

• B. Long Posted: Feb.12 at 12:44 am
  LaMarcus Aldridge is just as good as Amare right now. He just doesn’t throw down as many nasty dunks. No way the Blazers make this move.

• Jukai Posted: Feb.12 at 1:32 am
  I don’t get the thought process that Aldridge > Amare… That’s just not true at all. He’s got a better outside shot? He takes five minutes to set up his jump shot. Everyone is probably judging him off that one game against Kevin Garnett.
  Yet, I do realize that the trade might fail just because Amare would DEFINITELY be the second option, and maybe even be the THIRD option. So, I don’t know how happy he’d be.
  I still say send Nash over to Portland along with Amare. Wouldn’t that solve ALL of Portland’s problems?

• Jaymes Posted: Feb.12 at 1:44 am
  The only reason this trade won’t work is Amare wants to be the man at whatever club he goes to. Trade talks have only begun this year ’cause Shaq has had more plays run for him and Amare is getting less touches therefore pissing him off. The only place i can see him going is Detroit. AI won’t be round for too much longer and they’d give up Wallace, so Amare would be the main man on offense. Portland has too much good going on to jeopardise it for Amare. IMO

• Dacre Posted: Feb.12 at 2:02 am
  Amare wants the ball plain and simple….and he should get it too…
  Nash needs to pair up with Dirk again.

• youngmuggsy Posted: Feb.12 at 5:01 am
  Trading a jumpshooting big guy who can’t rebound for a slightly better jumpshooting big guy who can’t rebound or play defense?

• Yann Blavec Posted: Feb.12 at 5:31 am
  Please talk about trade when they’re official.

• mdshuai33 Posted: Feb.12 at 6:41 am
  Okay, this is getting ridiculous. I love Aldridge, but let’s be honest: STAT is better. He’s quicker, he can absolutely dominate when he wants to, and he’s got massive playoff experience. He has been ineffective this year because Shaq’s huge self clogs up all of his driving/slashing/dunking lanes. And he’s pissed, so he’s sulking a bit (which isn’t really an excuse, he should be professional enough to go out and lay it out on the court anyway). Oden would be able to make up for his defensive shortcomings eventually. And I agree that BRoy and STAT wouldn’t have any problems over who would be/is the man. Roy just wants to win, and he’d do what it takes to pull it off, cuase he’s just that good.

• mdshuai33 Posted: Feb.12 at 6:47 am
  I wouldn’t give up Bayless though; he’s starting to look pretty damn good. I’d give up Blake before giving up JB. Having said all that, I don’t see the trade happening cause I don’t think the Suns are gonna send STAT to a west competitor. And jukai, as for sending Nash over too, I’m not buying it. Portland would be giving up most of it’s young talent and a huge part of it’s bench for an aging point guard who would take the ball out of your already best playmaker’s hands (Brandon Roy). But when STAT goes to the CHI like we all know he will, prepare to see Nash curl up into his sock drawer and sob for days.

• chitown Posted: Feb.12 at 8:54 am
  Hope he does land in the windy city because it then becomes more enticing for dwade to come home where he belongs. If pax manages to pull this off he is a genius.

• Jukai Posted: Feb.12 at 12:15 pm
  mdshuai33: They’d be giving up two young talents and three expirings.. they haven’t been happy with Sergio and Bayless is NOT the point they are looking for. It really is a perfect deal.
  Plus Nash is aging, but in Portland he could split the time with Blake, 25 minutes each. It makes sense to me.

• kingofsota Posted: Feb.13 at 12:28 am
  portland would be stupid to do that deal. they are giving up 2 guys with great potential for a guy that wants to be the main man. amare wouldn’t be the main man in Portland tho b/c of Roy. I still say amare goes to the bulls, where he can be the dominant presence down low and have a point guard that wants to play with him, derrick rose.