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Thursday, February 19th, 2009 at 4:05 pm  |  119 responses

Rockets Trade Alston To Magic

by Ryne Nelson

Several sources are reporting a three-team trade that will send Rafer Alston to the Magic. Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle reported the deal–one that could signal rebuilding mode in Houston:

The Rockets reached an agreement to trade point guard Rafer Alston to the Orlando Magic, an individual with knowledge of the deal said Thursday. The Rockets will receive forward Brian Cook from Orlando and guard Kyle Lowry from the Memphis Grizzlies in the trade.

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Memphis will receive Orlando’s first-round pick as part of the trade.

Houston traded one of its few players who played solid ball all season. They’re going in another direction by putting the rock in Kyle Lowry’s (slippery) hands. He’s likely come off the bench if the Rockets don’t have any last minute plans still in the works.

The Magic give up some insignificant parts—Cook and a first rounder (27th as it stands now)—for Alston, who will make the team respectable at the PG again. Alston’s a better scorer and leader than either Anthony Johnson or Tyronn Lue. On top of that, Skip’s contract will barely affect Orlando’s cap situation.

The trade brings the Grizzlies a couple million more under the cap.

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  • http://wherethenbareallyhappens.blogspot.com Collin

    Aaron Brooks can finnaly start. yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Che

    I actually like this deal the best so far. Magic will definately benefit from this. Alston will thrive in this teams offense.

  • KozmicKid505

    are you f*ckin kiddin me? How in the world would a man in his right mind do a trade like that after T-MAC gets sidelined! Houston we have a problem!! its called transission..

  • WhiteOut

    WHO CARES.

  • http://myspace.com/originadro Witness

    We can look at this trade in two different perspectives. How many other teams wish they had kyle lowry? when houston gets him it aloows them to lure better players in next summer. i think they are in the lebron hunt whether they say it or not.

  • Dan Ilika

    This can’t be good for Orlando. I mean, sure, Alston is a better scorer and leader than both Johnson and Lue, but unless he understands his role on this team and doesn’t disrupt what seems to be solid chemistry, this could be disastrous. Though he does have a knack for distributing the ball. . . After his first, second, and third looks for his own shot.

  • http://myspace.com/originadro Witness

    lowry and brooks would compliment each other well, but brian cook is almost a non factor.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    But Dan (4:19 comment): what were the Magic winning with Anthony Johnson running the show? Nothing! Rafer has a high ceiling, where if he gets hot he can hit some big shots and maybe, just maybe, push the Magic into the EC Finals. Without Rafer they’d have no chance to do that. Yes, he could end up being a knucklehead on the court and upsetting their chemistry, but again, I’m not sure the Magic had much to lose, at least for this season.

  • http://myspace.com/originadro Witness

    @ Dan: are you serious? have you ever seen rafer play? he isnt a shoot first scorer. i watch every single one of houstons game and he and battier are the vocal leaders of the rockets. he is a willing passer who runs the offense nicley for any team. this a very good trade for orlando because he understands how to play the game better then even jameer.

  • horsey

    transission is a huge problem for everyone…how can one master that which does not exist?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Ryne, this doesnt necessarily mean houston is rebuilding, let’s just say Rafer’s shooting woes cost the Rockets a lot of games, he’s only been consistent when it comes to assists, turnovers, and D, but i think the bad shooting and lack of attacking the basket outweighed everything else. It just wasnt a fit here and he’s probably the weakest link. Brooks has been outplaying him, but i dont know if he’ll start now for sure.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    As if Rockets fans weren’t miserable enough already. This one’s another puzzler.

  • http://kb24.com Bigi

    Who was sayin’ Houston gonna win the Chip????Stand up…..

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Here, Bigi!

  • http://kb24.com Bigi

    Nice,Ryne…You Man it UP!Like that!

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Alston won’t be afraid to jack six threes per game like the rest of the Magic perimeter players. He’ll be a good fit.

  • http://kb24.com Bigi

    I don’t mean it’s over for Houston…But…T-Mac goin’ down(again!) now this…What’s next?

  • Erik

    Love the trade! bringin Rafer to Orlando will be great. It will be nice to see him D up the opposing PGs then push the ball, throw alleys to DWIGHT, find the spot up HEDO and RASHARD for 3′s and most of all we won’t have to see much TYRON LUE.. dudes wack

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Good point Ryne. The Magic should be able to break the record they set earlier this season.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    So will the Rockets start Aaron Brooks now? The kid can shoot but he’s a big downgrade from Skip in terms of PG skills. I’ve always thought Lowry had a ton of potential but he’s never done anything with it. And this keeps Orlando in the hunt in the East for sure.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    as a houstonian…i’m confused. When t-mac is out, Rafer is about as efficient a PG as we could ask for–he runs the offense perfectly, plays above average defense, and, while streaky, can fill it up on offense too. I love aaron brooks, but aaron brooks gets plenty of minutes off the bench now (sometimes finishing games) and is a good change-of-pace player. Brian cook? meh. Kyle Lowry? a homeless man’s tony parker. Why?

  • tenorca

    The trade in six words: Magic are stoked. Rockets are done.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Sorry, but why is everyone goo-goo over Rafer Alston? What exactly has he proven that Anthony Johnson hasn’t? They are both role players who are limited. Rafer will not get the Magic to the ECF.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I will agree the Rockets are mailing it in, though. Not because they traded a good player, but becuase they traded their only true PG.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Ok, ya’ll can commence to calling me an idiot now.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Ryne, i do think it’s a good trade for the magic since Alston is better than anything they have healthy at PG, but him jacking 3s isn’t always a good thing. Rafer actually knew he was going to be traded since earlier this week, or so he says, i think he’s known for a while now, the last month he’s been racking up more assists and penetrating more, but it didn’t seem like that style would stick for him.

  • Diggy

    This is a good look for the Magic… and A. Brooks gets to get loose!

  • http://sportcetera.blogspot.com/ LeoneL

    what’s the grizzlies gonna do with all that money?
    offer lebron 40 mil?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    i guess you just have to have seen eveyr single rocket game for the past i dont know how many years to know how much the rockets needed to get rid of Rafer. He’s had his moments, but this team needs guard who can consistently be a 7 and sometimes a 9 or 10, while rafer sometimes was a 7 and 9 or 10, but too many times a 1, 2,3 also…i think Brooks and lowry can hold it down at point. The “setting of the offense” is overrated at times, Rafer pretty much dribbled upcourt, either fired an entry pass or swung it around the arc. his defense can be overcome with good team d, his offense in houston was overrated and since they always show the highlights of the few times he did blow up, i think a lot of fans think he played a bigger role offensively.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    i dont know about all the hate, or lack of love i guess, for lowry. back when he had the starting job he was more than decent, but ever since memphis started collecting pgs to sell on ebay he hasn’t any significant pt or consistency.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Its so hard to quantify defense at PG. The difference between Billups and AI defensively is homecourt in the playoofs and the 8th seed. Aaron Brooks is a niceshooter off the bench, but he’ll be aliability once rh playoffs start. I guess the Rockets are hoping that Lowry, when surrounded with better talent, can be a serviceable PG and above average defender…
    I think Rafer is a big loss, no matter what Darryl Morey’s calculator says…

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  • Isaiah

    Time to rebuild around yao in the next couple seasons. T-macs 22mill comes off in…..2010.

  • BostonBaller

    As a Celtics fan I hate this trade!! I love Skip though. He is going to energize them.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    i think aaron brooks is a GREAT sparkplug off the bench, but would be a liability as a starter due to his lack of size. how is Lowry as a player? what are his strength and weakness? I’ve never seen him play. heck i don’t even know how he looks.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Rafer is a DECENT pg. I think its unfair to say that he’s crap, because the Rockets actually have been doing fine with him at the point over the last few years even tho they’ve never been healthy. Then again, he’s hardly a contender-caliber point guard right now. And his OPEN jumper has NEVER improved in 9 years of pro ball, despite being open a lot – he’s played on some pretty talented teams like the late 90′s Bucks and the Rockets, of course.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    albie, i think that’s the problem right there, a lot of people haven’t seen him play so it’s human nature to think he’s a scrub or a bust.

  • Young C

    Now all the Rockets have to do is reverse the Battier-Gay trade and the rebuilding can truly commence

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    The Pacers announced today they will be without leading scorer and All-Star forward Danny Granger at least 10 days and up to three weeks with a partial tendon tear in the sole of his right foot.

    Well, there went my chances at a fantasy championship…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Joel, they have only been doing well with him because of who surrounds him, if he’s not well surrounded he’ll suffer, so he should be ok in Orlando, i agree about his jumper though, he’s never been able to figure it out.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @RV: True, Houston’s been hella stacked the last few years, even with a piece or two perpetually out. I think he’s an okay upgrade for the Magic, but really, people are expecting a bit much…

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    so is it safe to say the battier/gay trade was a mistake? if mcgrady’s body had hold up, i still say it was worth it. but now since mcgrady is as good as gone…
    hindsight is a mufah.

  • Dan Ilika

    @ Ben: I fully believe that Alston has the opportunity to really step into the role of a true point guard and facilitate some great things, I was merely highlighting some of the question marks that surround his play. I’m also not saying that they were better off without him, I’m just saying that Stan Van Gundy has really created a culture with this team that I don’t see Alston fitting into with his history. The Magic, to me, show a lot of discipline and control, and, as a fan of the team, I am worried that he will disrupt that.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    and where’s all this talk of rebuilding coming from?? They traded one of 15 players, kept ovr 90% of their roster intact and that’s rebuilding??? I don’t rebuild my house when i replace the back door! It’s more of a re-adjustment. I think everyone forgets Alston is the oldest of the rockets’ core players. He’s 32, everyone else is under 30. They’re not rebuilding, but rather shifting the window of opportunity, before it started with the last few years, but now its about the next 4-5. Rafer at 36, 37, running this team?? No way, or any team for that matter. this is the best time to make that tweak, rather than a year or two from now when, if healthy, they could be in the midst of championship or deep playoff runs. when you consider his age and his weakness, it’s a no brainer.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Battier’s an elite defender. The Rockets probably never considered that deal a bust.

  • http://myspace.com/jrcfl Justin

    This is a great move by the Magic. As I am sure that EBoy and Cheryl can testify to, Rafer did a great job under SVG during the “Back In Black” playoff run in 2004. Now Beetlejuice aka Ashy Larry aka Anthony Johnson can go back to bench. Also, Ty Lue can take some more time to learn the offense for a playoff run. Awesome, awesome move.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    albie, i guess in hindsight, but only as a replacement to Tmac because without battier the team loses something valuable.

  • BostonBaller

    Discipline and Control….. Casual fans seem to think Rafer doesn’t posses either of these b/c of his And1 fame but if that was all he had he wouldn’t have been in the L this long. How many other and1 guys have made it? Right. “Skip was a real ball player before his And1 fame. I’m not saying he is an Allstar guard but he is better than a whole bunch of the starting points in the L. PLEASE watch the games people and then make assessments, let’s not go by newspaper clippings and snippets on line. lol.

  • Dan Ilika

    @ Witness: Yes, I have seen Rafer play. In fact, I have watched him quite a bit throughout the years, through his days in Toronto and Houston. I like his energy, his tenacity, and his presence. He is very vocal and wears his heart on his sleeve. If he is displeased, the whole world knows about it, and he can lead a team in that sense. As for you saying he isn’t a shoot-first scorer, that’s not what I said. I said he is a shoot-first point guard; there is a big difference between the two. You can’t tell me that he hasn’t historically looked for his shot before the pass. I’m sorry, but a point guard who, in his only 82-game season of his career, makes 1020 shot attempts while only dishing 444 assists is a shoot-first point guard to me. And that’s on a team with two consistent targets in T-Mac and Yao to pass the rock to. Not to mention his meager shooting percentages for his career.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Boston baller: you mean the discipline and control one requires to stop shooting when they’re already 3 for 12, the kind of discipline that allows you stay within your abilities? Like not shooting so much when you cant shoot and driving more when you can dribble in your sleep? Yeah he’s got tons of that…..He’s a solid player, but he needs to be in a specific situation to succeed, there’s a reason why he made the league, but there’s also a reason why he keeps getting traded.

  • Dan Ilika

    @ BostonBaller: If you could refer me to one season where Skip showed discipline and/or control in his career, I would be more than happy to take on your ridiculous “casual fan” label. My point is, you can’t. Off-court issues aside, Rafer Alston shows neither of these characteristics in his play.

  • Dan Ilika

    Well put, RV.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    i am staying out of this

  • wilz

    memphis gets nothing once again..it had to happen before the deadline…man..who runs tha team?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Rafer gets left open alot because teams want to challenge his outside shooting (a la Rondo, and to a lesser degree Tony Parker) and in those situations he sometimes has to take the shot given to him. And I’m not sure if you’ve noticed but, Kyle Lowry is atleast as bad of an outside shooter. Brooks can stroke but thats it. It’ll be interesting to see how all of this plays out in Orlando and Houston.

  • Young C

    Well if McGrady misses a year or more, and Artest leaves in free agency, and Yao opts out in 2010…then yeah it actually could be the start of a mini rebuilding mode

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Ciolkstar, true, but i think rafer settled for that WAY too much, not sure why because he can obviously handle the rock and should be able to get inside a lot more and at least pass if he can’t finish (which he can’t very well). Lowry isn’t a great 3 point shooter, but Houston actually doesn’t want him to shoot it, but drive instead, which he can do. As for Brooks, not sure why u think he’s only a shooter, he actually can score from anywhere and in different ways, his problem is lack of size on D. i guess him being a scoring point can be bad for some teams, I don’t think it is for Houston though.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    i never considered alsotns bad shooting a major part of why the trade went down. he only plays good when one of the big three is out.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    one more thing, although i dont think this is a bad move if it stays as is in the future, Morey did say they were looking to make a move that would set them up to be able to acquire a bigger piece/name next year, much like they acquired bobby j and used him to get Ron. So this trade may be a set up for a bigger trade next year, don’t ask me how or for who, but morey’s calculator is a better set up man than Nash.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Brooks is talented but I see him as an AJ Abrahms type, sweet shooting two guard stuck in an undersized PGs body. I think long PGs like Rondo and Westbrook (or even quick ones like Tony Parker and Chris Paul) will make it really hard for him to get anything going. And I’m not as down on Lowry as some might be, I was a fan of his in college, he can get to the rim but he turns the ball over a bunch in those situations. I just don’t see who’s going to be the distributor on offense, especially without McGrady, who created a lot of offense as well.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Man, you get one article in the New Yorker and everyone thinks you’re some matematical messiah. Morey hasn’t proven to me that his calculator is the way to a chip. He seems to have an unnatural predilection for undersized bigs, rugged defensive forwards and flawed guards.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    @ rv: yeah thats what i posted earlier. lowry is being persued by alot of rebuilding teams. skip is pretty old now and is going to decline from here on out. teams wont bite at reafer and could possibly get someone like gilbert arenas in a mcgrady deal.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    ciolkstar, well Morey was at boston prior to the championship, he may not have had a lot to do with the big trade, but he had a hand in giving them that flexibility and some role players. I also wouldn’t doubt that boston is still using some of the methods he left behind. Here in houston his moves aren’t fulfilling their potential because the team is held down by injuries. So far all his moves either brought equal value or more value to the team. Drafting Brooks, landry, and trading for scola were all A+ moves. The ron acquisition on paper was an A+ also, and may turn out to be pretty good on court afterall. This may be the first move that raises eyebrows on paper, but i think it’ll pay off in the long run.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    also, Brooks actually HAS shown he can handle the pg spot full time, that’s why Houstonhas so much confidence in him. Sure he’s had his troubles, but like you mentioned, it’s due to other players, while rafer had trouble with others at times AND held himself back also.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    but aaron cant distribute the ball as well. lowry would be a much better starter than brooks but im sure brooks would play the majority of the minutes. where the hell does brian cook fit in? hayes and landry play much more important spots than cook ever will dorsey is even better than cook.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    witness, but it all comes down to how they fit on this team. There’s no room for Dorsey’s game because hayes, scola, landry are all better versions, BUT, none of them can hit the 3. Cook can. He actually did well in LA for some time, of course just a minor role player, but shoots well. He can step in at the 3 and really open up things for Yao at times. Of course he may get waived/bought out, but i don’t think it’s a waste of space for the team.

  • http://none Rico Flo

    Go Texans!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I don’t get why Houston would want to get rid of Alston, he’s been playing so consistently… I just hope this move develops Aaron Brooks, which it will.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Why didn’t the Rockets pull the tr!gger on the Baron Davis deal?!

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    but rv when will he ever get in the game? i can only see him as a small forward.

  • KBDWILL

    Being a jazz fan, im likin this trade haha. The last two playoff series have been tough and for a lot of reasons it was because of hm. When he got hurt and was out for the reat of the playoffs last year, the series was basically over. He’s a nice PG and orl is gonna like him!

  • KBDWILL

    *rest

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Rafer Alston is the reason why Deron Williams only slightly demolished the Rockets in the playoffs… That is until Skip got injured and Williams proceeded to COMPLETELY demolish them.
    Why my Rockets, why?!

  • marcus jones

    Rafer Alston is one of the worse players at making lay ups…for years he has been blowing missed lay up…one after another…he is also a poor shooter….most of the time the guy cant hit the side of a barn…true Rocket fans have been praying for him to be traded a long time ago…
    thank goodness he is finally gone!!!!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    witness, i’m not sure he’ll stay on the team, haven’t heard if he was thrown in to make the deal work or if houston actually wanted him, but supposedly Morey told Matt bullard at a charity event last night that they wish they had someone like that who could spread the defense….so there you go, Cook=bullard, kind of the same role Novak played last year, but more seasoned. If he sticks i’d say he’d get like 3-5 mins a game, 10 on a good day.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Teddy, the rockets didn’t want Baron’s hughe contract, plus where would that leave them? With the point position extremely clogged..

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    KBD, thats because Houston had an anemic offense past Yao and Tmac and rafer was the only one willing to shoot…but now Landry is more polished, Wafer plays like you have a gun to his head and are asking him to score, and Brooks has greatly improved. Scola improved some as well. Barry is also an added shooter. It should still be a tough series if they meet this year..

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Teddy, Deron can get his shot any time he wants, the problem is keeping a body on him, Rafer never has been exceptionally quick, so Lowry isn’t a downgrade in speed, but is an upgrade in bulk, which Rafer lacked, so hopefully he can bump Deron around more.

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    Cleveland and Boston > Orlando, still

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    well, they might be able to beat one of the 2

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    If Morey’s such a genius, why do the Rockets still have McGrady?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Russ, i never said Morey was a genius at getting rid of mistakes, he just doesn’t make many, if any, when acquiring players…even the best machanics can’t do much with a car that was defective straight from the factory…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    and i honestly think its the rockets owner who’s keeping tmac here, afterall he’s the one who held the conference tuesday saying tmac wouldnt be traded…the guy is a businessman above all, and i think he’s got a thing for big name players that bring in money. He’s defended and praised tracy since the moment he got here. i think he realizes tmac is one of those guys that can move tickets and merchandise. Of course he’s injury prone, but he comes back one game, makes one good play and 5 more jerseys are sold, and so on.. i don’t think he’d give tmac up unless he got someone who had the same appeal, but that’s not likely.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Honestly, Rafer didn’t really thrive in Adelman’s system, since he’s more of a shoot first PG. Sadly, i don’t think the Magic are a good fit either, although they are shothappy, and are soooo in love with the 3, they need someone who can give em 7-9 assists per game on a fairly consistent basis. Still Hedo has a knack for making plays, and Johnson’s still there to be the halfcourt set kinda guard… Wait and see is all we can do, right? Brooks getting more minutes is good (on Offense) and terrible (on D) for the Rockets, since all those truly gifted Pointgods are out west. Never seen Kyle play (Holla, small market team phenomenom) but he’s been named on Slam as one to watch a few times.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Oh Lord, Thabo just got traded to obscurity? F*kinghellonastick!!!! Well with Mason injured, he might get some minutes at the 2? But OKC? not nice, Paxson, not nice.

  • marcus jones

    Aaron Brooks is more then ready to be the starter now. He is twice the better shooter then Alston.
    He will run the floor and pass the ball just as well as Alston if not better. Yes there will be times Brooks is not as good as a defense player then Alston but overall Brooks will show Rocket fans that he is a much overall better player then Alston. If the Rockets did not think that was true they would of never traded Alston. This is the Brooks show now. The trade was not so much as in getting Lowry but in getting rid finally of Alston and allowing Brooks to start.
    The Rockets staff finally realized that Alston needed to go. After countless missed layups…jump shots…running down the floor and shooting first and missing most of the time..turnovers…the Mgt. team of the Rockets knew Alston had to go!!!!

  • http://triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Hmm… what happens when Jameer Nelson comes back STRONG! Who’s leaving then…?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    @ marcus: you dont know what youre talkin about. the reason its so easy for aaron is because he still has no repsect. they leave brooks open when yao gets the ball. they had to guard rafer because he was deadly at some points. he was a good point guard and i doubt brooks will replace what alston brought to the rockets.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    when jameer comes back rafer can lead the second unit.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    witness, i’m not sure why some fans see Brooks as just a spot up shooter, the guy is way more than that on offense. He can shoot from 30 feet, 15 feet, 10 feet, etc. And not just wide open shots, he floats them over taller defenders. He can gy by almost anyone on the drive and has a good selection of moves to finish at the rim, he can use the glass well also. He’s also caught some back door alleys and his hops help him finish at the rim. Youtube his highlights so you can see it yourself. His weakness is obviously size on D and he’s not pass first, but he’s not a ball hog either so he passes when needed, which works fine.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    @ RV: ive watched every single rockets game this season. i live in houston. i know he has a problems on d but that still doesnt change the fact that most defenders dont guard him. when he plays point guard most of the time he doesnt run the offense. he plays to get shots for himself. i never called him a spot up shooter. as a starter he cant run the offense AND explode like he wants to. lowry is going to be better as a starter because he can play d and will run the offense. its not goin to be the aaron brooks show like most of you suspect.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Actually, i’d prefer Lowry to start as well. I’m not saying Brooks is waiting to blow up or anything, but i do believe he’s capable of starting, but i think Lowry has too much talent to play only 10-15 mins. I’d like to see them split the time evenly, with whoever is playingbetter getting sometimes more minutes. He does play got get himself shots, but i think that’s why he works with this team since some of them tend to hesitate. but again i think “running the offense” is overrated in houston because Adelman’s offense isn’t set and based on reacting as you go along. Maybe that’s why Rafer didn’t quite fit, he just shot regardless of what the D gave him, while Brooks can react accordingly.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    brooks is proven to be a much more capable scorer than alston but i think youre right about the playing time part too. i just wish they ran more pick-n-rolls for landry and brooks. they make a tremendous tandom. maybe lowry can be the opening act for earth wind and fire…

  • http://nba.com tealish

    Michael Curry is a bad coach.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    @ tealish: wtf?

  • http://phoenixsunsrising.blogspot.com/ Hersey

    Good move for Orlando. Alston’s deal expires next summer so they can move him if things don’t work when Nelson comes back.

    I hope Houston takes a step back and help my Suns can move up. :-P

  • marcus jones

    Witness i have been watching Rockets basketball since 1975. You said Rafer has to be guarded because he hits his shots…that is funny…
    Rafer is no where in the same league as Brooks as a shooter…perhaps your saying the Rockets dont know what they are talking about since they made the trade…if Mr. Alston was that valuable for the Rockets he would of never been traded!!

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    neither brooks nor lowry will be able to fill the void rafer leaves behind. rafer is a very valuable player to houston. and it doesnt matter how old you are or how long youve been watching basketball if you go by what you hear or read and not by what you know then it doesnt matter what your opinion is. if you have been watching the rockets then you know that rafer brings toughness and leadership to the rockets. now the only players who have both on the rockets are ron and deke.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    rafer hasnt shot as well this season because he hasnt found a groove while playing with all the starters. brooks is far from ready to take over the starting role full time.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Rafer Alston > Marcus Jones

  • http://thedreamshake.com Tom Martin

    With Rafer, it’s quite simple. He took away shots from Yao and others, and he was the worst shooter on the team. Bring in Lowry – he’s much cheaper, is only 22 years old, and is still capable of playing at a level close to Alston’s. Morey has wanted Lowry for years, and this was our best chance to get him. Sure, we may not win a ‘Ship this year, but was our T-Mac-less team with Rafer going to win it anyway? Highly doubt it. The best we can do is re-load with Lowry and hope that he can get it done for us not just in the long run, but now as well. Check The Dream Shake for more of my thoughts. – BBN

  • I am the walrus

    Now there is a spot in the playoffs for a west team, and it will be taken by ………………. Golden State! Run ‘n’ Gun all the way!

  • marcus jones

    Witness your love for Alston is funny.
    You are in love with a guy that is on the bottom of the point guard list in the NBA. He is a poor shooter period …how often did you see him go for layups in a game ?…not many and when he did go inside most of the time he missed the lay up..he would even miss wide open lay ups. There was a guy that was pretty small also and his name was Calvin Murhpy that is now in the hall of fame. i dont see any mental toughness in a guy that that cant control himself in the off season and gets thrown in jail all the time. A true leader has to lead not only with his mouth but with his overall ability. Once again if the Rockets thought that Alstons over all talent was that good he would of never been traded. Perhaps Witness you are saying you know more then the Rockets staff. A staff that has seen him practice and play for several years now. Alstons widow ran out with the Rockets and it was time for the Rockets to move on.

  • lilblu4rmthaO

    Comin from a squad that wasnt makin tha playoffs Skip will produce with Orlando i doubt he mess up the chem he knows its Howards house he comin in

  • anjoe

    i REALLY WANT TMAC TO be TRADED FOR BARON.. before time runs out for artest and yao. now that skip to my lou’s gone

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    I’m really surprised that some people don’t like this trade for Orlando. I think it’s a coup for them. They had serious problems at PG, problems that would rule them out of contention in the East. Now that Skip is on board, they seem like an interesting team again. Now Rafer MAY crash and burn, and they may not make it to the ECF, but AT LEAST they’re in the mix again, right? More so than with AJ or Lue at least. Am I missing something?

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    I don’t know if anyone’s made this comment, since I haven’t read all, but didn’t Van Gundy have Rafer his first year? I don’t think he would have co-signed if he was concerned about chemistry issues with Skip. I think this was a fantastic deal for the Magic, and has probably saved their season. Nice job, Mr. Smith.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Where’s all these “for a team not making the playoffs” comments coming from?? Why would Houston not make the playoffs? Tmac already missed likehalf the season, houston actually has a winning record without him, like 14-6 and that was with all the will he or won’t he come back drama. Now there should be more consistency on the floor and better focus, shane is back to full strength and Artests seems to be also. Don’t forget Ron also missed like 10 games, that’s 3 guys capable of starting that missed more than 30 games combined and houston is still in the middle of the pack…

  • freezer

    I MISS JAMEER NELSON :(

  • http://nba.com tealish

    RV: I hate to be all negative, but even if the Rockets make it into the Playoffs as a lower seed… what’s the result going to be? They’ve got no one who can carry them over the top. Yao is nice, but even before Tmac declared himself done for the season, he’s no longer that guy. The Rockets really have no one to look to, to win it for them.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    with “winning” being a playoff series, of course.

  • oe

    witness you must be out your damnn mind

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    tealish, i’m not expecting a lot once in the playoffs, but i think its foolish to write off the rockets when they still have two main guys and a better, more experienced supporting cast than last year. Often times this season Tmac has been the actual problem, he’s probably solely responsible for at least 5 rocket losses…this team is where its at because of a team effort, not because tmac has been carrying them. that being said, with the right matchup, like the hornets, they could upset them in the first round. Lowry would do better on CP than rafer, Brooks can get by CP on offense, and Tyson has never figured out to stop Yao. I would feel pretty confident about the Rockets pulling it off.

  • Caleb

    Well there a 9 teams in the West that should finish above .500, perhaps well above .500… and one of them will not get in. That team could easily be Houston.

    More likely Phoenix though… especially with Stoudamire out.

  • KozmicKid505

    you know what …. I’m gonna take it back for probably a rare occasion in my life! Brookes ain’t half bad.

  • marcus jones

    Now your talking KozmicKid505!!! Brooks and Lowry are a much better team then the talents of Rafer Alston…in fact you have the fastest team of quick guards in the NBA. Tony Parker did not do so bad when he went into the starting lineup for the Spurs…lots of people said no way…the guy is too small….Aaron Brooks has talent and heart and thats what counts. Ask Hall of Fame Calvin Murphy about that.

  • Rasta Rajon

    Oh My GOD, this trade is going to bring Rafer Alston’s alter-ego “skip-to-my-lou” back! He is going to have a field day tossing lobs up for Howard to fly to. His penetration skills, jumpshot ability, man the East is finally making some moves to be a great conference!

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