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Wednesday, February 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pm  |  125 responses

Salmons, Miller Traded To Bulls

by Ryne Nelson

Two different situations. The Kings are in cap clearing mode (for what or whom, we’re not certain). The Bulls are aiming at the Playoffs and above.

NBA.com’s David Aldridge had the phones working:

The Kings agreed on Wednesday to a trade that sends forward John Salmons and center Brad Miller to the Chicago Bulls in exchange for forwards Drew Gooden and Andres Nocioni, according to league sources.

I’m not sure how Bulls fans can’t be happy with this trade. It works great contractually and personnel-wise as well. Brad Miller is coming back to the Chi, and he’s still got some gas. Joakim Noah and Aaron Grey can take a seat as the Bulls have their first effective offensive center since…Brad Miller. Young John Salmons is the player they hoped Larry Hughes would be when they made a eleventh-hour trade with the Cavs only a year ago, and he has the contract they hoped Ben Gordon would sign this summer. Chicago still has a clutter of guards, so don’t be surprised if either Thabo Sefolosha or Kirk Hinrich are shipped for cap room before the deadline. The chances of Gordon returning as a Bull next season have greatly diminished.

If any player would be happy in Sacramento, it would be Drew Gooden, who hails from North Cali. Andres Nocioni is a decent piece for the Kings, who should play well with young bigs Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson. Center Cedric Simmons is also reported to be going to Sacramento. The Kings save some money, open up minutes to develop their young players and mortgage their future on this great Ponzi scheme that is summer free agency.

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  • slamfan4life

    DAMN

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    salmons better get at least 35 mins with the bulls or i will be megapissed.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    This deal confuses me. Doesnt Noc have a pretty hefty contract? I Know Gooden’s expires at the end of the season though.
    And how does Salmons fit in with the Bulls? He’s pretty much the exact same player as Larry Hughes. The Bulls get a semi-legit starting C, in Brad Miller. I just hope they keep playing Tyrus major minutes as he’s been providing a nice steals and blocks lift for my fantasy team.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    this appears to be the link i sent Ryne a minute ago! Wheres my rep points?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    You gotta wonder if Salmons or Gordon will get the majority of the minutes at the 2 from here on out, although I guess Salmons can play the 3 as well.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    The kings are in cap saving mode for the pivotal Sean May free agency battle this summer. Its gonna get intense!

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    As Bulls fan, I am ecstatic. Amar’e wasn’t happening. Tyrus Thomas will remain a Bull. And they can pick and choose which guard to release for expiring contracts. Paxson could redeem himself.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    BET, I beat you to it! Consider me just a slow typer.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    i will consider you that and a frown machine maker :-(

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    I can’t believe the Bulls got value out of Noc’s nasty contract, too. What a deal.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think you’re right Ryne. Gordon is likely gone after this season, but he was becoming a major headache. Does Larry Hughes’ contract expire anytime soon? I really think having a passing big, like Miller, could help Tyrus on the offensive end. They’re clearly set at PG, Salmons give them some flexibilty being able to play the 2 or 3, Tyrus, Noah and Brad Miller playing the 4/5 spots. Paxson might just be able to save his job. They’ll need to ditch Del Negro though.

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  • http://docfunk.blogspot.com Doc Funk

    “Alright, we’ll trade you the scruffy white guy and our guy with the giant goatee for your scruffy white guy and your guy with the giant goatee.”

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    LOL!

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Larry Hughes, Brad Miller’s contracts expire in 2010. Salmons can opted out in 2010…not that I buy the idea that the Bulls are banking that summer, seemingly like every team now.

  • tenorca

    @ BETCATS: The “Sean May free agency battle” is effing hilarious. They should pay him in Pizza Hut gift cards.
    The Kings just threw the sorriest team in the league gauntlet down to the Clips and the Wiz. The race to the bottom just became a lock.

  • Blinguo

    This probably doesn’t wake up Luol Deng, and all but guarantees Gordon is out in a year? Also we know BETCATS is a top notch contributor, that’s a given B.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I doubt Salmons opts out as he’ll be 30 years old, and likely won’t be getting a raise. Although, Chi Town might be able to lure Wade back home. Not sure how he’d blend with Rose, but that would be one hell of an explosive backcourt.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    wow… great trade for bulls. this doesnt make them contenders again but still. its not a complete rip off because nocioni is pretty beast.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    This is offtopic, but for anyone who still doubts whether the Blazers should’ve gone for Durant over Oden. Oden is out with yet another knee injury. This time its a chipped patella, which Portland is trying to downplay the seriousness of. I’m not rooting againt Oden but I feel like its become obvious that he’s a HUGE injury risk and Durant is looking like a generational talent and the future Western conference foil to Lebron.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    they can lure a good a all star in when teams are trying to get under the cap. for instance: they can trade miller or hughes to a team tryna get lebron.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    salmons is a very solid player and should not be compared to larry hughes in any way shape or form.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Its pretty obvious you own Salmons in some fantasy leagues Tarzan, but he’s really not any better than Hughes, if at all.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    i have been trying to tell everyone about durant for a few years now, its finally becoming obvious to some that he is extremely great and belongs in the kobe, lebron, wade, dwight group. i said brandon roy and kevin durant would be the duo of the decade and win rings, but instead they got grampa and his walker.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    cio they already had Brandon Roy, they wont be regretting it.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    dcikstar, you couldnt be more wrong about salmons not being any better than hughes, its not even close, but if you were talking about hughes as a wizard, then yea, theyre pretty close.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    a 6’5 shooting guard and a 6’9 shooting guard making a tag team combo = INSTANT FAIL. But i think Oden is the Sam Bowie of today.

  • http://docfunk.blogspot.com Doc Funk

    Also involved in the trade were Michael Ruffin and Ike Diogu. In related news, Michael Ruffin is still in the NBA.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    why do my comments sometimes go into moderation?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Ryne un-moderate my comment that is awaiting the use of your powers.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    BET: Yeah that whole MJ and Scottie Pippen thing never worked out did it.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Durant is a SF not a SG.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    I think you know why, BET.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    cio the difference between Kevin Durant and Scottie Pippen is the 20000 pounds of muscle.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    …and, no, I’m not going to allow that comment.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    That trade sucks balls.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    aww my comment went away. Oh well. Ryne is still a G

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    I don’t if y’all have watched Brad Miller lately, but the weed and lack of off season training has hurt him tremendously. All he does is shoot jumpers now. All the time.
    And Salmons isn’t effective without dominating the ball, plus his jumper is beyond streaky.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    The league was diferent then, there’s no way Pippen could’ve gotten away with the things he did on D back then nowadays. So fine, worst case you trade either Durant or roy is it doesn’t work and basically get whatever you want. I mean this seesm really obvious to me. Pryzbilla has still been more productive than Oden when he gets the minutes. Portland would be competely unstoppable iof they had Roy and Durant.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Thats funny, AllenP pretty much just described LARRY HUGHES in the 2nd part of his comment.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    unstoppable? Alright, keep your views. I am not gonna argue a hypothetical today.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Brad miller had a couple of beast games early on (Sactown probably told him he was about to be traded and should ‘showcase’ himself) but he’s been TERRIBLE for most of the season. He is still an above avergae passer, but he’s MUCH worse than Noah defensively.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    all good BET. I’m just saying you’d think Portland would’ve learned their lesson on passing on Jordan because they already had Clyde Drexler. Then they got Sam Bowie 2.0, its actually eerie how similar the two situations are.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    well i am guessing Blake Griffin is gonna be Scottie Pippen and Jeff Green will be like Charles Oakley?

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Noah is probably the worst player in the nba.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Unless there’s another trade to follow, I give this one a solid meh. At least Noc cared.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Shia: see Morrison, Adam

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    @ BET: i thiknk youre till mad because you havent won the lottery and didnt get to draft oden. your only big man lacks production. he has yet to reach his potential.

  • j-smoov 5

    Salmons better play. Dude can ball.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Color me unimpressed.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    yall say pryzbilla has produced well when gettin the minutes but so has oden. he just needs another big man coach. its obvious he hasnt completely healed from his microfracture surgery.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    finally Russ said something. i agree with Doc Funk’s first comment.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    i agree that salmons is a good player but he is ball dominant. last season when artest was hurt and he was starting he was beasting but he has no chance of starting over deng. maybe gordon…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Remember when T-Mac slammed it over Tyrus Thomas? That was sweet.
    Take that, punk!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Salmons > Hughes

  • Candice

    I’m going to miss Noch. I don’t know how to feel about this trade. Of course Chicago Tribune Live(sports talk show) loves the trade, according to the host he has talked to NBA executives who have said that this a good deal for the Bulls and that they didn’t give up much.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Witness: Will he ever heal? I am not hating, in fact that is where the whole Sam Bowie parralel comes from. Had Sam been healthy, maybe your team wouldnt have been viewed as making a huge screw up by drafting him.

  • Candice

    @Witnes, I’ll like to see Vinny justifying Salmons starting over Gordon.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Okafor not reaching his potential? Fu(k his potential, that man gets a double double every year. Thats what we need, consistency.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    my team isnt portland. sadly its the rockets. but thats besides the point. oden has what bowie lacked. bowie wasnt good defensively. he just had good length for rebounding. oden will heal. hes gonna heal. we know he wants to be a superstar.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-490-Chicago-Bulls-Examiner Chris Cason
  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    it would be nice if he could consistently score 20 points a game like he was supposed to. the man is makin alotta damn money.

  • http://www.remembertheaba.com Brett Ballantini

    Ponzi scheme, eh Ryne?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    it would make sense to start salmons over gordon. gordon doesnt have any size.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    we’ll see, i am not sure how healed he will ever get…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Why the hell’d the KIngs do this? BET: AY-O!

  • http://www.myspace.com/fullagrime KING BOOLA

    I CANNOT STAND PAXSON. THIS TRADE MAKES NO SENSE. NOCIONI WAS THE ONLY TOUGH BULLS PLAYER WHILE THE OTHER WAS PUSS. AND YALL STOP GETTING ON GORDON. HE’S A KILLER.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Witness, he had a sh!tty start to the season, but now, he is having 25 point 10 rebound games on the regular. The previous game against the Magic, not last night’s Dwightimazation, he held Howard to 3 points. He is good. But this thread isnt about Okafor, its about a weird trade.

  • http://slamonline.com WaltWilliams

    Brad Miller has been out with an abdominal strain.When he was on the court,he was the worst starting center in the league.His patented elbow jumper isn’t falling,his backdoor passes aren’t as crisp and he still boasts the defensive liabilities that always made him expendable.Good riddance,Brad Miller.Just because Vlade was skilled enough to scoff at the weight room doesnt mean you can follow suit.
    John Salmons reminded me a lot of Jim Jackson.He would always get his 15 pts no matter what or who stood in his way…straight cancer.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    witness’s points > BET’s points

  • ber

    At least the Kings finally found a Pollard replacement in Gooden.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Witness’s name<<<<<BET’s name
    A Nike commercial does not trump an NBA team. Take that, Bron’s raised arms!

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    wtf moose? youre just mad because im on a boat and instead of takin you and VH1cat im takin donnie walsh and t-pain.

  • Candice

    @ Witness,we’ll see but I just don’t see it.
    @Tadd are you feeling okay today or have you boycotted the Pistons all together now?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    remember candice gordon is proven to score more points comin off the bench than starting. he is a former 6th man of the year.

  • Candice

    I know that but he is having a good year, so I don’t see them justifying it this time. He usually struggles when he starts but he hasn’t so far.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    would you rather get 18 points from salmons and 20-25 points from gordon or 20 points from gordon and 13 points from salmons? it would make sense to let them play to their strengths.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Nocioni is a loss to the Bulls.Salmons is streaky at best.Miller can be good when he decides he wants to play.Drew Gooden is Drew Gooden.I give this trade a big meh.

  • Candice

    Larry Hughes didn’t trvel with the team tonight.

  • Candice

    ^travel

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Candice, that is because they are busy trying to trade him for a bag of toastidos.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    larry hughes should pay for my dry cleanin with all the money he is makin.

  • Candice

    @ Witness,I just don’t see it. Ben Gordon is already not happy with the trade. He feels like they need to do something with the all the guards that they have.
    Also the organization did the players real bogus. They didn’t tell the rest of the team until the bus was literally leaving the Berto center to go to Milawaukee. They noticed people missing from the bus and then Vinny told them what went down.

  • Candice

    @BetCats I know because they have been trying to trade him for a couple of months now. He still usually traveled with the team.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    @ candice: are you thinkin what im thinkin? we should petition to bring jerry krause back. best thing that ever happened to that organization. where did you read this? or is your local team the bulls?

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Obama will veto this trade

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I am guessing he was traded but it will only be announced tommorow as part of the trade deadline conspiracy to make tomorrow look important

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    but who wants larry hughes? maybe the bobcats. i heard they didnt let gerlad wallace practice either.

  • Candice

    They are my local team. They interviewed players for their reaction and Gordon said something to the effect that the Bulls should have done something ages ago because of the guard situation.After him making a statement like that, I don’t see him being happy that Salmons is coming. Deng is unhappy because him and Noch were best friends. I think they lived with each other or live with each other. A lot of Bull fans boo Jerry becuase they feel like he disbanded the Bulls and made the stupid decision of trading Elton.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    did they boo him when he drafted michael or traded for scottie on draft day? i can see them trading thabo now. how about me and you propsose a trade that brings thabo to the rockets in exchange for chuck hayes?

  • Candice

    @Witness that’s what I want to know. Who wants Hughes?

  • Candice

    I like Thabo. Has Hayes improved on his ugly free throw shooting?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    why not cut hunter?

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    a little. but he can dunk now and has a good left hand. i like thabo too. thats why i want him. im sure you dont want luther head.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    i wish the Bobcats would take him. We could give him playtime and rotate between him and Raja. Also, Gerald is not practicing because after his injury, coach isnt trying to overwork him.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    and Wallace already has 15 point in the 1st half. He aint going no where.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    larry brown is a good coach.

  • Candice

    @ Witness, I think they like him for Rose. He has really taken Rose under his wing and Rose really likes him.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    i can agree with that: a good coach, who sometimes makes stupid mistakes. But overall a good coach.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    @ BET: i think he can do the same thing for charlotte that he did in detroit. raymond felton reminds me of billups.

    @ candice: why does it matter if theyre friends? if they have a chance to improve then they should do it. he can make friends with the new people.

  • Candice

    I don’t know but Huntr is the only vet on the team per say.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    wait who get ike diogu? the kings or the bulls?

  • MalevolentKing7242

    Dang well we know what team is gonig make a run for their money and whos building for the future.

  • Candice

    The Kings. The Blazers got Michael Ruffin.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    ESNPN.com is reporting another trade…
    “As the trade deadline approaches, teams are getting desperate to clear cap room in these tough economic times.
    One GM is taking it further. “Look at the guy, my dog has a better 3 point shot and he’s been dead for years!” Cavaliers’ General Manager Danny Ferry said. “Realistically, it saves us money…plus, I’m pretty sure the sack of potatoes doesn’t turn the ball over every single time”.
    While the Cavs are rumored to be interested in big names such as Amare Stoudemire, Marcus Camby, and Antawn Jamison, perhaps all they really needed was a thick sack of potatoes to plug up the lane.
    “I’ve seen him play” Ben Wallace adds, “Sack’s a solid defender and takes charges well. It’ll be a shamockery if we don’t win a title this year”"

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    **Breaking: Ferry Trades Gibson for Sack of Potatoes

  • AlbertBarr

    Interested to see noc in pete’s offensive schemes. I think the kings may have gotten even worse on defense in this trade (which is scary to think about).

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Nocioni was the heart and soul of the Bulls, more or less. I know his contract was big and long (like my…nevermind) and he wasn’t even a starter, but he was an archetype, the kind of guy that every successful team needs at least one of if they expect to get anywhere. While he’s a decent post presence, Miller is well past his prime and probably will be gone by the time the Bulls make any noise in the playoffs. Salmons is (as many have pointed out) just another streaky guard who further crowds an already cluttered backcourt. Neither is a star, neither should be expected to provide much veteran leadership, neither have experienced much playoff success. And Miller will take minutes away from Gray and Noah, both of whom WILL be around for the Bulls resurgence (if there ever is one) if they don’t get traded. Basically this trade doesn’t excite me in the least.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/theoriginadro Witness

    like a robert horry?

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Not quite like that, but still. He’s a classic guy you hate unless he’s on the team you root for. The Bulls just haven’t shown me that they have any plan whatsoever. About the only good thing they’ve done lately was draft Rose, and he was a gift from Asgard. Wouldn’t you want to surround him with quick, athletic bigs and shooters? Maybe get a real two and a solid low-post threat (gee, where have I heard that before). Brad Miller is just yet another stopgap. This is a classic “well, we did SOMETHING” trade—just like the Ben Wallace/Larry Hughes one. They should start figuring out who’s going to Secaucus.

  • Blinguo

    No trades so far are that exciting. This isn’t last year. But what was the last thing that excited Russ? 5 new (okay but not great until Summertime with the “Medicine ball”) colorways of the Nike Air Trainer III coming back out?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    HEY RUSS!
    Q for you though: Do you see much of a chance of further trades with CHI…? Hinrich could surely be a draw card for a few teams around the place…? Washington could do with a guard, but then…who do you get..? Maybe a Caron Butler Etan Thomas thing for Gray, Hinrich and Gordon…? I dont know how the $$$ looks on paper though…
    Mind you I like Gray and Noah, sure they are as young as beans but just solid kind of individuals… Like Nocioni… everytime I say his name I think of pasta…. Hmmm potatoe Gnocci…

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Haha, very funny. It’s just that I’ve been a Bulls fan for 20+ years now, and I’d like to think that they’ll contend again in my lifetime. Thus I’d like to see them make trades with that thought in mind. (Retro sneaker colorways don’t excite me at all, BTW. Especially now that everything comes back every couple of years anyway. To twist a phrase from my main man Syndrome, when everything’s special, nothing is.)

  • Blinguo

    I assume ‘Medicine Ball’ is an OG one, I am too young to know which are OG – and retro quality blows 90% of the time – agree. Nor did I mean to take any potshots in your deliberations of Chicago’s trade. Brad Miller retro 2009 edition is a RTV(return to vendor) no doubt.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Emeka Okafur is a n00b.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    HEY RUSS!
    Q for you though: Do you see much of a chance of further trades with CHI…? Hinrich could surely be a draw card for a few teams around the place…? Washington could do with a guard, but then…who do you get..? Maybe a Caron Butler Etan Thomas thing for Gray, Hinrich and Gordon…? I dont know how the $$$ looks on paper though…

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Mind you I like Gray and Noah, sure they are as young as beans but just solid kind of individuals… Like Nocioni… everytime I say his name I think of pasta…. Hmmm potatoe Gnocci…

  • Funkdoc

    Wow that sucks for Drew Gooden. From being noticed in Cleveland next to Bron, to being unnoticed next to, euhm, Udrih? Even if he acts like a goat, screaming ‘meeeeih’ after every dunk, he wouldn’t get noticed. Not in those purple jerseys.

    On the other hand, Salmons didn’t deserve to be on that crappy team, good deal for him. I like Rose-Gordon-Salmons-Noah-Miller

  • http://www.myspace.com/everybodylovesmush Mush

    Ryne, I wanna know your thoughts on Deng.

  • Che

    Chicago got the best on this deal. Great move. They might actually make the playoffs this year.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    So Brad Miller is the answer to their problem down low? Has anybody watched Miller play? You can’t dump it to him and say go get buckets. He’s a shooter! And I don’t like Salmons, Mike James 2.0… he ‘ll give you 20 on a sorry-a$$ team but that’s about that. I just don’t get how you’re supposed to grow as a team with those two guys surrounding Rose. They need to clean house this summer. Keep Rose, Deng (they commited), Hinrich (back-up combo). Everyone else has got to go.

  • http://www.remembertheaba.com Brett Ballantini

    Overall I shade more toward Russ than Ryne on the excitement meter here, but Russ is being much too kind to Nocioni. At this point, he’s an overpaid cheerleader. He may be the heart and soul of the team, but if so, he hasn’t had any impact–even on his best friend, sleepy Lu. The onerous three-year commitment to Noche has been shed in exchange for one overpaid year of Miller. Salmons is the plum here–having a career year, shooting well, modest salary, solid swingman size. Still too many littles, so dump Captain Kirk’s Wheel of Fortune contract on Minny, already!

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    I’m glad all the smart kids agreed with me.

  • Diesel

    What they’re saying in Chicago is this: The trade was to get rid of Noce’s big contract. There’s going to be another trade with Hinrich and Minesotta to get rid of Kirk’s contract. And then possibly a trade of hughes for D. Lee. That would get rid of all our long term contracts except deng and free up money to go after Bosh in 2010.

  • Tommy Patron

    @Witness: Krause did well with the Pippen/Grant draft and many other moves, but Rod Thorn drafted MJ.

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